/vr/ - Retro Games

>Still no OPL version where SMB, Standalone GSM 0.23 and AC5 work without problems

mix of running games off burned cd/dvd, and HDD
tho honestly given up on ps2 for now to play some more dreamcast because my ps2 keeps fucking forgetting how to detect my hdds, randomly itll decide not to anymore even after properly turning off the system by IGR'ing to OPL and pressing turn off. I think its cache related, according to that psx forum but ive fucking given up on this autistic console for now.

This is probably a long shot but I have a fat PS3 50001 that I want to freemcboot and I have a spare hard drive pic related and I want to know if it will work apparently the PS2 is very picky on which hard drive will work. I checked ps2drives.x-pec.com and when I searched the model 3 entries come up 2 of them say they work whereas the 3rd says it doesn't work.

>>8553505
I forgot pic like a retard. Also any info I should know before I try freemcboot? I was just gonna follow a YouTube video that seems pretty straightforward. I want to play PS1 and PS2 isos

finally busted out the ps2 and am using the dvd exploit to play a burned copy of enter the matrix. its not good but im going through the entire franchise

should I hunt down genuine controllers or buy knockoffs

>>8553526
imo genuine, always

OPL over ethernet.
Do the new versions of OPL actually add any compatibility with more games? Every time I try one of the new nightly updates they seem to only break stuff.

>>8552657
HDD. I own most of the games that don't work with it that I actually care about.

OP here.

>>8553536
>ethernet
wired, right? I'm wondering if there's a wireless solution that would work because I don't have my ps2 slim set up in the same room as my PC and router, and the prospect of running a long cable between both rooms isn't exactly feasible.

Another semi-related question: how's PS1 game compatibility with your setup?

>>8552657
Still using burns with the OPL patch, I have a shitton of old DVDs lying around and that's easier than trying the ethernet shit...I want to check it out someday so I can save the laser and play games larger than 5 gb but my technical know-how is almost 0; still don't know what kind of cable to get. Mostly been playing FFX for the billionth time and fucking around with weird out-of-region shit like Maken Shao and that .Hack MMO. Makes me wish there was a PS2 private server for FFXI.
>>8553617
I remember checking out some of the PS1 compatibility charts for burned disks, but it seemed like a ton of work for not much reward; duckstation works almost too well to justify it. I don't remember much of what I read though, so take it with a grain of salt and all that.

>>8553617
Wireless would probably be even slower than usb
I recommend finding some old laptop and using it as a dedicated server rather than using your daily use machine. You don't need a router either, just connect an ethernet cable directly from the computer to the console.

>how's PS1 game compatibility with your setup?
Haven't really tried it, no need when I have retroarch.

>>8552657
I replaced the laser of my PS2 Slim a few days ago since it was having issues reading DVDs, now my ESR patched and burned discs work fine (though I'll need to check if some of my previous burns that didn't run before now work).
As a sidenote, is there any method to run burned backups of CD based PS2 games?

>>8553807
Burn to cd-r instead of dvd-r?

>>8553807
did you get one of those chink lasers from eBay? I bought one before but you had to desolder a particular point before it could activate. I remember tearing my hair out trying to figure out why this new laser wasn't responding after installation, only to stumble on the answer later.

Afterwards I remember still having to remove it again in order to adjust the pots as it wasn't reading discs correctly, still doesn't but by that point I gave up trying to fix the problem. Now the laser will *sometimes* read back-ups and retail games perfectly find and other times can't stream data fast enough off the disc, interrupting gameplay (open-world games like GTA suffer the most).

And it won't read CDs at all. Tempted to start over and get another laser that's not shit.

>>8552657
Heh why don't you just emul.... oh, yeah PCSX2... Well I'll be taking notes, please continue.

>>8552657
Mostly I use a fat softmoded ps2 with a 2TB hdd.
But I also use a fat ps3 with a 1,5TB hdd.

>>8553617
Buy a miniature router like picrel. Plug in usb hard drive. Set up network share in the router's software. Connect to PS2 via ethernet.

>>8554160
oh, this seems promising
what's the catch? seems too good to be true for their not to be some downside I'm not seeing.

>>8554160
>Plug in usb hard drive
a usb pen drive or card reader (for sd card) would probably work just as well, right? Though I suppose a HDD would be more economical

>>8554190
The catch is that is that it's a bit janky with all the wires and power adapters.
>>8554208
Anything should work as long as it's within the power budget (or has its own supply)

>>8553536
The most recent(? I think?) stable version has been pretty stable for me. Games that didn’t work (properly) on previous versions like Super Dragon Ball Z, Half-Life, and for the most part, Fatal Frame 3 worked better, if not, perfectly on it. I have about 300 games on my HDD, and the ones I’ve tried for the time being work fine.

I know games like Max Payne 1 and 2, and Deus Ex have had issues on OPL in the past, but I haven’t tried them out at all on the newer stable version, so I can’t vouch for every game working better, but the ones I have played definitely do.

>>8553807
I remember running back ups of Bloody Roar 3 and Marvel vs. Capcom 2 using a DVD-R one time. I think I used some sort of “dummy data” (?) program to fill out much of the empty space on the disc so that the PS2 could read it, though this is just a vague memory at this point. There’s definitely a method out there.

>>8553507
>PS1
I'm sorry anon, not possible to use the PS1 hardware through the HDD

>>8554160
I used one of these, works OK but there are issues
Using a fat now with a HDD and it is much better

>>8554238
you can use the PS2 USB itself to power it up
You can actually use a USB drive in it to function better than a direct USB

>>8552657
I use a basic bitch setup. SATA HDD with a Chinese network adapter that supports SATA out of the box (doesn't have a functioning ethernet port). OPL and HDLoader both on a USB stick, but I only really use OPL.

>>8553617
just buy a long flat cable and run it along the wall. If you aren't a faggot and own a home, do a cable drop. Its really not that hard.

Still playing my unmodded, vanilla ps2 slim from fuck knows when it was purchased.
Got 2 controllers with extended cords and a disc cleaning kit.
Shit is till going strong though I am aware that the lifespan of this console is counting down the days.
Any suggestions on how to expand it and keep secured while not playing?

>>8554294
What issues?

>>8554290
Yet.

>>8554425
Long FMV's can crash
Way less compatibility
games freezing if continued after a long pause

>>8554446
no, not ever
only an ODE could bypass this and it will need soldering to do

>>8554697
Later consoles have all the hardware needed to virtualize PS1 games, and in fact do so already.

>>8554753
What?
We’re talking about using the hardware not POPS
The PS2 can’t physically use PS1 hardware and IO ports simultaneously

>>8552657
I still have to burn PS1 games.

PS2 I'm using an HDD right now but I know some games don't work 100%. So far I haven't hit any.

>>8552657
HDD with OPL and also ESR with burned DVDs

>>8552657
I just play CDs, dude.

>>8554760
Nobody mentioned POPS. All the IO ports on later PS2 are emulated through DECKARD.

>>8554786
So it’s completely emulated?
I’m not sure where you’re going with this
At that point a Pi would be better

>>8552657
Free McBoot with Codebreaker patched to run HDloader with a WD 1TB black drive.

>>8554802
You don't understand what emulation is.

>>8554806
>HDloader
Literally why?

>>8554382
Wow, that's amazing, anon. My original PS2's laser died around 2009. No idea on your questions though. Are you still using the same memory card?

>>8554829
Cause it works.
Been using it since you needed an action replay max and luck to mod your ps2.

>>8554828
in what way?
are you one of those "FPGA is not emulation" people

>>8554838
It's pretty ancient. OpenPS2Loader has better compatibility and more features.

>>8554843
The same way ODEs and flashcarts aren't "emulation". Go learn how hardware works.

>>8554847
Ok explain how you think the slim would load PS1 games through the expansion bay IO connection simultaneously then

>>8554873
Not through that connector, but any other storage device would be usable by patching DECKARD. It would also work for PS2 games, in principle without the compatibility caveats introduced by OPL's IOP and EE hooks and patches.

>>8554909
>Not through that connector
cunt, we were talking specifically about that connector

>>8554917
Well that's just silly, slim PS2s don't have that. I don't know why you would think that.

>>8554921
Did you just have a conversation in your own head?
Read the reply chain

I'm a slimlet so am just using burned games with Freemcboot. Sucks there is no solution for CD based games aside from hoping the conversion goes well.

>>8554938
Use mechapwn and masterdiscs. Prefer them to esr in general.

>>8554938
This video shows how to convert cd based games Into a dvd iso that can be burnt to dvd media. Only works on slim ps2s for now though but works on complety unmodified systems.

https://youtu.be/_E_R8od6zdU

I can't even get SMB games to work. I use HDD just fine, and I got SMB working once but it was with a router intermediate (which is a pain in the ass to setup.. I'm reading you can just connect an ethernet cable directly from ps2 to pc and it works but I've been following tutorials but it doesn't work. Infuriating

>>8554830
My fat model from 2002 is still going strong with a working laser. I did convert it to use a HDD earlier last year, however, and it’s been great so far to be able to ditch the loud disc drive.

Is it true that the fat PS2s sound like a jet engine when you plug an HDD into it due to the noise from the HDD itself and the PS2's fan ramping up?

>>8555569
I guess the benefit of having awful eyesight is thinking this picture is an acceptable way of playing.

>>8555575
Just use an ssd if it bothers you. It’s not that loud, btw.

>>8554382
My Ps2 fat luanch console is still going strong with original laser. The laser was sort of bad, refusing to read Ps1 games and such, so I opened it up and cleaned the laser with isopropanol and put white lithium grease on the gears and rods. Worked flawlessly after, like new. Bought 3 backup lasers from China, tried them out for fun - none of them will read Ps2 games, only Ps1 games. Weird.

Can I hack this shit or what?

>>8555610
Sauce on them titties?

>>8555645
Buy a FmCB memory card and stick it in your ps2. Congrats, it’s now hacked.

Are HDMI converters/adapters actually worth it?

>>8555575
The fat PS2 fan has only two settings, and it bumps up to the higher one when a HDD is present.

Different PS2s have different fan volumes. Among fats 39k is loudest and 50k is quietest.

>>8555862
Don't get anything PS2-specific, get a generic component upscaler. In particular avoid the ps2 to hdmi dongles.

>>8555525
You need a crossover cable if you're connecting directly

>>8556098
This isn't true unless your router is also 20 years old.

>>8556102
*your PC.

>>8556102
I meant directly, as in without a router

>>8556115
It's still true. Any gigabit ethernet nic will have auto mdix and so will fast ethernet nic manufactured for decades.

>>8555525
Same here, it's a hassle because I think windows update always turns off smb share. I don't like turning it on anyway since supposedly it's a big security risk or something.

well, at least I made an angry post on /vr/ and jesus felt sorry for me or something cause now it's working. there are some places where you can't share folders, like C:\Users\Public
Although one guide used that directory which threw me off but it worked for him
Made the folder in desktop and works now.
>>8556098
no, that was back in the day. that shit is over

>>8553507
sorry to harp but can anyone help me out here

>>8555651
>Sauce on them titties?
I'm going through yandex and nothing yet but considering how often she photographs her giant mammaries I'm sure there's a pic of her spreading some kind of sauce or jam on 'em somewhere in there!

>>8552657
>Original hardware
if I am wanting to be 'authentic'. I use one of my phat consoles and a hdd.

>>8553507
>>8553505
>>8552704

I wholly recommend spending the handful of dollars to get a micro-sd setup. You buy a few adapters and use it the same as the ide hdd with network adapter.

>>8553617
ip transfer is mediocre.

>>8554425
The laundry list that have always existed on par with usb hdd.

>>8557786
>ip transfer is mediocre.
can you elaborate on that?
Or is it like what this one said here
>>8554695
>Long FMV's can crash
>Way less compatibility
>games freezing if continued after a long pause

in other words, the transfer speed just isn't up to snuff
weird since I remember similar threads like this on /vr/ where there's always one guy or two who advocated streaming data over ethernet for the slim-line as the best alternative since HDD wasn't an option

>>8557835
We’ll unless you want to use burned DVD’s, it is the best alternative

>2011+11
>still no software hack to play pirated PS1 games on your PS2

ISHYGDDT

>>8557889
mechapwn and tonyhax

>>8557904
Neither of those let you play burned PS1 games on your fat PS2

>>8557889
>2022
>not having a ps2 with matrix modchip

>>8557917
That's exactly what both of those things do.

>>8557917
Lol what? That’s exactly what they’re for

>>8557948
mechapwn is scph-5000x and later only and tonyhax would only work on a fat ps2 if you're doing it manually which is fucking retarded, the memcard exploit doesn't work with it

>PS2 got less and less secure as they released revisions

>>8557957
>mechapwn is scph-5000x and later only
yes? scph-5000x ps2s are fat.
>and tonyhax would only work on a fat ps2 if you're doing it manually which is fucking retarded, the memcard exploit doesn't work with it
inconvenient sure but it's still there. you have your software option for pirating ps1 games.

>>8557959
Not completely true, PS2 slim patched the independence exploit for example.

>>8557959
Many such cases!

I have a like new fat PS2. How much can I get for it on ebay

>>8557980
depends on where you live

>>8558002
Biden Country

I want to do freemcboot but I'm too cheap to buy a sata network adapter and a sata hdd dock

>>8557980
$4.7 million USD (more if you still have the instructions manual)

>>8557980
$60

>>8552657
HDD for translations/hacks
ps2 slim for old discs

>>8552704
Let your system warm up
Use deoxit on ALL the connection points

>>8558051
>express your win
>vibe your thing

what did they mean by this?

>>8558080
Launch coverdiscs are full of VR.

I played my ps2 slim a handful of times over a year or two before the 360 came out and never touched it again.
Lasers don’t just go bad on their own, do they? I’m hoping my consoles live on for another decade before I got to replace shit

>>8558080
A compact crossover (before the auto market milked the fuck out of these) from GM, also known as Toyota Matrix

>>8558169
>>8558080
fug, dropped pic; pardon me for my /o/tism anyway.

>>8558169
Matrix was good, iirc it had a 2zz that rev’d to nearly 8k. Kind of nutty for an econobox like that.

>>8558101
cleaning the disc area is a must

>>8555645
Mechapwn will work on that model https://github.com/MechaResearch/MechaPwn

>>8557889
I tonyhaxxed my ps1 for that reason. Couldn't get mechapwn to work on my 50003. They tell me it should work but it doesn't unless I'm missing some important step like running the isos through some kind of patch

>>8558587
Are you trying to run import games?

>>8558595
No, neither works though. I tried burning Ripto's rage to a disc, didn't work. Then I tried Gateway to Glimmer the European version which also diodn't work even though my ps2 is European. To which version do I need to mechapwn the 50003? Should be the same number right? Just don't work for me. Don't neeed it anyway, got my ps1

>>8558604
Same version number, but set to debug DEX instead.

>>8557927
Shhh, quiet, modchips are known to trigger softmodniggers severely.

>>8558621
why?
it effectively does the same thing with more cost and more effort

>>8558703
It's comfier when it's actually set up, though. No masterdisc patching or homebrew loaders needed.

>>8558718
Not sure what that even means
Are you just saying you like burning discs or something?

>>8558734
Why even post if you don't know anything about PS2 piracy?

>>8558739
You said it was “comfier” because you’re not using a loader or a master disc patch
The fuck does that even mean

>>8558758
Go find out, faggot.

>>8558760
I’m asking you what you mean
I know what masterdisc and a loader is
Some times I swear you people are obtuse for no reason other than to shitpost