/vr/ - Retro Games

>>855481
Why does /vr/ hold this series in such high regard?

>>855483

Maybe to others, I've played it and I wasn't entirely impressed, I just thought that boss was creepy as hell.

Holy shit, I never got that far in Ecco. Jesus.

The weirdest/scariest(?) 2D bosses I've ever fought were all in Metroid Fusion. SA-X instills genuine fear and Nightmare-X was unexpectedly weird the first time I played (probably a couple times after, too).

>>855495
The fans are irritating. They refuse to accept that Sega wanted to move on and make other things.

>>855483
The boss is really fucking creepy

>>855483
>>855508
Go grind your axe somewhere else, dude.

>>855532
It's ok to shit on FF but not Ecco? Wtf.

>>855543
Fatal Fury? Final Fight? Fantastic Four? Gotta be more specific when you mention FF on /vr/ brah.

The creator's Kickstarter was epic fail. He wanted $665,000 for a fucking phone game

>>855483
It doesn't. /vr/ isn't one person.

My own opinion is that it isn't an amazing game, but a fun ride.
It has a nice atmosphere and sound design, the rest of the game falls flat to many people because it's an exploration game.

The sequel was fun and I would have wanted to see closure to the story, but it would haven't had anything new really.

>>855570
Personally I think the sequel's story and gameplay was mediocre but say that around the fans and they'll try to rip out your jugular.

Pretty much everything in Gynoug (Wings of Wor.)

someone else can post the giant dick boss

>>855569
People weren't ready to donate money to some guy that wanted to make a realistic ocean sim game.

It would have been neat, though.

>>855543
I don't care one way or the other what you think of the game, but this ain't the thread for it.
This is a thread for creepy bosses.
Quit shitting it up with this stupid argument that you REALLY want to have.

>>855585
He also doesn't give two shits about game ownership issues and still expects people to throw money at him and buy his games.

>>855582
Allow me.

>>855582
D2 had a robot vagina boss.

>>855601

>>855483

Ecco, you mean?

If I had to guess, it's probably got something to do with original premise, fantastic narrative, amazing soundtrack, creepy as fucking shit atmosphere (without even trying), hair-pulling challenge, or all of the aforementioned.

Might be just me, though.

On topic: These little shits.

Seriously, whoever though this up probably should've been locked up. Just in case.

>>855615
I was just going to say that it was different for it's time and an interesting experiment, but now I will just say "what he said"

>>855621
Ecco ripped off Dolphin for the Atari 2600

This

>>855623
oh ho ho

also
this entire game was potential nightmare fuel though

>>855640
>muh sega nostalgia

OP kind of reminds me of Phantoon.

>>855650
I was a nintendo kid and really never got that far in ecco in my later years, you would have to be a complete moron to not recognize it as a milestone for it's time.

>>855650
What are you so upset about? Did an Ecco fan steal your girlfriend or something?

>>855657
Has never seen negative opinions on /vr/

>>855659
Then why did Sega cancel the series? There must have been something wrong with it like Shenmue. Also, Ecco 2 sold like shit.

>>855582
That fucking heart boss with all of his blood cells.

>>855657
Probably. Bitches love dolphins.

>>855665
it would be one thing if you actually did make points about your opinion and why you had it, but all you are doing is yelling at people for liking ... or even having a passing interest... in something you don't like

>>855673
>yelling
You do realize that text is emotionless right?

God forbid someone have an opinion. I see the Sega Defense Force is out in full.

>>855686
>You do realize that text is emotionless right?
but tone isn't.

>>855691
Not my fault if you're reading something into it that isn't there.

>>855691
>>855686
oh and I should add, you are still talking to the nintendo kid, I have no love or nostalgia for sega, in fact I think most genesis games sucked

>>855665
>Has never seen negative opinions on /vr/
I don't care about your shitty opinion, I'm just sick of you shitting up this thread.

>Hey guys, let's have a creepy bosses thread
>FUCKING ECCO FANS, WHY THEY LIKE THOSE GAMES SO MUCH? GODDAMN!
>I didn't think much of the game, I just thought the boss was creepy
>IF THE GAMES ARE SO GOOD THEN HOW COME SEGA AIN'T MADE ANY MORE ECCO GAMES, HUH? HUH?!?!
>dude, no one cares, this is a thread for creepy bosses
>OH, SO IT'S OKAY TO SHIT ON THIS OTHER SERIES THAT NO ONE WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT NOT ECCO HUH? I SEE HOW IT IS!! SEGA DEFENSE FORCE OUT IN FULL TODAY!!!

This is what you sound like to everyone who isn't you.

>>855696
>most genesis games sucked
Indeed. Because doing the same shit of moving rocks with your nose and swimming through caves for 30 levels is so original right?

>>855702
Then hide the thread or show your work.

>>855707
How about make an Ecco thread and do your whining there, instead of ruining this thread?

>>855578
Mainly because it wasn't. The sequel improved on the first game in every single way imaginable.

captcha
>must illnasty

>>855710
Why don't you go make an Echo thread and talk about how much you love it there. We're trying to talk about scary bosses here.

>>855719
Maybe if the first post didn't exist we would have a thread about such bosses. Now it is just Nintenyearolds sperging.

>>855723
When did /vr/ stop being a nice place?

>>855735
Summer.

>>855738
>tripfag using meme buzzwords

>>855719
I'm not interested in discussing Ecco at all. Can't you read? I'm here for the subject matter OP described.
If you aren't the guy derailing the thread with his impotent dolphin rage, then carry on, I ain't got any problems with you.

Here, have a boss made out of vaginas.

Couldn't find an image/video of it but still...

So in the final stage (of the Genesis version, anyway) you beat this huge ass monster... then this scrawny, elderly scientist guy comes and starts weeping over the dead monster's body, and then runs up to you and starts to desperately, pathetically pound away at you, and you actually have to kick the poor guy around...

I mean, yeah, he does turn into an even bigger monster eventually, but it always made me feel bad.

>>855749
Then ignore them and stop contributing to it. It's like all the DC fans bitching about the not retro police.

The mobster's head in NARC or whatever that shitty game was called.

>>855826
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52hHU4UxYF4

Personally, I was enamored with Ecco because it was visually impressive. When I saw Ecco it was the most graphically impressive video game that I had seen. The most graphically impressive thing that I had ever seen prior to that was when the Tiger Sphinx rises in Aladdin in theaters. Back to Ecco. Ecco was graphically impressive but it also had the good fortune to coincide with a Flipper movie that came out in 1994 or 1995 that starred Elijah Wood. i think Flipper came out afterwards. Free Willy also came out before that, around the same time. Also, I recall learning about the breakdown of the animal kingdom in elementary school. Dolphins were used as the aquatic evidence of mammalian adaptability. I suspect that a lot of kids, part of the target demographic for the game, took to the game for this reason. I suspect that a major demographic on this board is dudes approaching or just passed 30. This is the only board I go to and that's me.

>>855840
I played the NES version, I think it was a little creepier than that one because of the erratic movement.

How about creepy scenes around the bossfight?

D2 had the boss turn a little girl into a fleshy puddle and then she screams at the player that they can't see or hear anything.

Note: That game was fucking awful on a playing level and no one should have the chance to play it ever for the sake of their sanity.

All these 90s shitbabbys can't comprehend the true meaning of the game. Unless you were born in the mid 1970s or earlier, you were not old enough to appreciate Ecco when it came out.

>>855868
>I hate puzzles
>I hate exploration
>I hate anything not made by Trolljima

>>855865
Shitbabby-kun, I love you. Please marry me.

FRESH MEAT.

Also, not retro, but in the original version of the game, Duriel was the same level of ohshit. He'd come at you before his room loaded and you'd load to see a dead or dying hero.

>>855870
It didn't age well. I think if I had played it on release I would have appreciated it more. And I would have questioned less about the plotholes and would have maybe enjoyed it. But hey, I was too young to purchase it let alone understand English at the time.

Puzzles are fun, exploring is fun (just not on a rail) and Kojima is a cool guy but he looks like he's getting tired of his own creation right now.

>>855871
1980s shitbabbys are not old enough to comprehend the true meaning of marriage until they are old enough to have grandchildren. They should stop stealing all the men and causing the husbando bubble.

Sinistar is really fucking scary.

All the Blaster Master bosses made me feel uneasy. They weren't super scary, but I didn't like them anyway.

>>855868
>>855870
>>855875
What game are you talking about?

>>855893
D2, a survival horror game for the Dreamcast.

>>855893
D2. Learn to fucking read.

>>855902
>>855903
Not him, but I kept attempting to put Diablo 2 to that, and it wasn't making sense. Figured it was an abbreviation.

>>855629
Not only was that guy creepy but once i finally got over how wrong everything was to my frail 7 year old psyche he proved to be pretty fucking frustrating to deal with

>>855629
I still have trouble doing that double jump right to avoid his big dumb hand. You need to hit jump at the goddamn peak of your jump to get it right, and it's always hard to due when stressed. Almost as bad as super metroid's wall jumping.

>>855715
Fuck, what is this from? I want to say Shinobi but I have no idea.

>>855984
Contra 3, I believe.

>>855984
Contra 3. Also, for some reason, after figuring out how to wall jump in SM, I never had trouble doing it on demand. I still have trouble infinite bomb jumping, however.

>>855858
ulillillia, is that you?

This thread has a lot of fleshy, body horror type bosses in it. Are there any mechanical/otherdimensional ones that are as scary, or are we just all wired to instantly feel discomfort around living things that are "off"?

>>855993
>>856005

It's in Contra 3, yeah, and it's also in Hard Corps, Shattered Soldier, ReBirth, and maybe some other Contras as well.
A very similar looking boss even shows up in Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia. pic related

I'm pretty sure the boss originated in Super C.

>>855601

how long is ECCO?
Im playing normally, at the level after saving 3 dolphins and getting the thrust->wave attack.
I have peeped into the other levels before and I dislike their themes, except for the first and last ones.
I would rather start 2 instead, but my autism says to finish 1 first.

Anyways, playing these games in this heat is comfy as fuck.

>>856395
The first Ecco game is 10 levels. Just skip it. You've already seen everything the game has to offer.

Just remember, the creator chose to make Ecco Jr. instead of Ecco 3.

>>856398
I take it ECCO Jr is bad then? I wasn't expecting to play it either way.

>>855897

>>856431
fun fact: there are 2 actually hello kitty games on famicom

I thought Donkey Kong Country 3 had some strange bosses.

>>856469
yeah, what the hell was with that thing? what was it even supposed to be?

>>856568
I always thought it was a heart.

>>855481
That would imply anyone got through the level to see that boss.

>>856431
Good. I'm not the only one who saw that.

>>856408
It's an educational game. Well, that is to say, there's a section of educational material, and then a bunch of fairly easy, fairly short minigames starring Ecco, a girl dolphin, and an orca whale.
It's not awful, to be certain, but it doesn't do anything to contribute to the rest of the series. It's just a simple, cute game made to be sold to kids.

>>856603
I'm still not exactly sure what I'm looking at. All I see is an exoskeleton with muscle tissue and a blue crystal thing here or there. I can't make heads or tails over what it uses to move, speak, attack, or cast spells with.

>>855749
This boss is even worse in R-Type Final where you actually go INSIDE the boss.

Obligatory.

>>856696
>implying the game is hard

>>859841
He was clearly talking about Welcome to the machine.

And yes, that level IS hard.

>>862445
No it's not you fucking casual. Try playing some Battletoads or Ninja Gaiden and talk to me about hard.

>>862452
>>859841
Welcome to the Machine requires a lot more endurance, patience, and trial & error than these two. It's harder than most of the Battletoads levels. I haven't played Ninja Gaiden, so I can't give an actual comparison.

>>862456
Ninja Gaiden doesn't give you regenerating health and makes you fight over 3 bosses in the final level.

>>862452
Ha... Go play Kabuki: Quantum Fighter.

>>862459
>>862452

>only games i played are hard, other games cannot also be hard, check out ma autism dubs hew hew kill me now

>>862525
but he was right, NINJA GAIDEN MAKES YOU FIGHT 3 FUCKING BOSSES AND IF YOU LOSE ITS BACK TO THE START OF THE LEVEL.
For fuck sake they made the 3 games in the exact same way.

>>862574
Don't forget about the time limit. Casual games like Ecco don't have one.

>>862574

So? Does that somehow disqualify Ecco from being hard?

Of course not, its just this ridiculous binary logic that internet generates

>>862601
>Going on the internets to complain about how people don't like your autistic dolphin game
>wahhhh he won't join my army

>>862601
Ecco: hard
Ninja gaiden: fucking hard.
Seriously and I was thinking the castlevania trilogy was hard as fuck.

>>862606

Dude, I dont even care about Ecco, youre just a fucking idiot.

>>862601
>air as a resource isn't timed

ok dumby

>>862623
Can't replenish your time in Super Mario you illiterate faggot.

>>862614
Seriously.

A: Ecco is pretty hard guys.
B: ECCO ISN'T HARD, BATTLETOADS IS HARD
A: ...That doesn't even make sense.
B: AUTISM AUTISM

This is a /v/-level argument.

>>862452
>Fucking casual
>muh battletoads

Oh god /v/ is here.

>>862626
Because it's a game made for fucking children. 5 year olds could beat Ecco. Games like Contra and Enemy Zero were made for real men.

>>862624
>It's the first time someone talks about super mario

You really are stupid aren't you?

>>862635
Uh... Nope.

Any 5 year olds could beat any old games. They have time and autism to do so.

>Implying tons of kids didnt beat Contra

>>862636
>2deep4me
>not reading comment chain

>>862638
Ecco was the Bioshock Infinite of its time. Pretentious shit that thinks it's art when it's a steaming turd.

/vr/, we're better than this. If someone can't get his opinion across without being civil, he is a shitposter. Report, hide, ignore.

>>862646
>What are opinions

Also

>I was part of the dev team so I totally know what was in their minds

Whats the deal with ecco? Played it a few times and got bored in less than 30 minutes.

>>862651
Have you ever seen a /vr/ thread stay civil?

>>>/v/ also counts as shitposting and it shows up in every thread

>>862659
It's butthurt nostalgiafag Sega fans who latch on to some shitty game from their childhood and convincing themselves it's actually good.

>>862660
>Have you ever seen a /vr/ thread stay civil?

Yeah, 90% of the time, from when it was created to last month.

>>862674
It's some unoriginal ripoff of an Alien head that swallowed some dolphins.

>>862668
>never seen a Dreamcast thread
>never seen every CRT thread
>never seen physical vs emulation thread

>>862663
but the OP pic looks neat what is the context? did I miss much?

>>862674
Final boss of Ecco the Dolphin, good game, but notoriously difficult.

>>862684
It was never notoriously difficult. It's one of the easier games of the era. Try Silver Surfer.

>>862673
>Dreamcast doesn't belong on /vr/
>CRT threads are stupid anyway
>Emulation is shit

/thread

>>862674

Ecco has a very unique sci-fi plot throughout the series, dealing with everything from alien invaders to alternate history where dolphins have cities

>>862689
>Durr I watched AVGN I'm a retro pro

>NES game vs Genesis game

Fuck you

>criticizes Ecco for being unoriginal with its Alien-like enemies
>praises Contra

>>862646
At least pretentious shit back then was still an actual game.

>>862689
Poorly designed games are not "hard", they're a "chore".

>>862694
>hurrdurr anything AVGN talks about can't be a good game

Do renditions of this dude count as "scary"?

I've read nothing but bad stuff about Ecco in this thread. Looks like I'll be buying Gunstar Heroes instead.

>>862905
it's just one autistic assclown derailing perfectly fine thread.

>>862905
Disregard it anon, it's a fine game.

>>862908
That doesn't mean Gunstar Heroes isn't actually a better game.

>>862689
as a kid, I never understood how to use the oisters. Only recently I did.

>>862912
But Battletoads is better. Ecco doesn't even have vehicle stages.

>>862910
>Implying Sega could ever top Treasure at anything

>>862908
>My little autistic butthurt someone doesn't like the same games he does

>>862948
i don't even LIKE Ecco or genesis games in general.
Please, stop. If it was trolling, good for you, you rused this thread pretty well. If it was not, you're a genuine, 100% buttjester.

Earlier in the thread someone asked if a machine boss can be scary.
Yes.

>>862973
If you don't like Ecco then why does criticism bother you so much?

>>862978
I dunno, I always felt like SHODAN was kinda trying too hard.

H-H-H-H-HELLO THERE, HACKER. I SEE YOU WALK-K-K-K-ING DOWN MY CORRIDOR. LISTEN WHILE I S-S-S-S-S-SAY SOME GENERICALLY OMINOUS THINGS.

>>862984
Because this is not an Ecco thread?

>>862997
Then start talking about scary bosses and let the Ecco fanboys spazz among themselves.

Obligatory: Psycho Mantis
In my case he knew I liked Azure Dreams, he really is a mind reader.

>>862905
Good choice. Ecco is a casual game with passwords while Gunstar Heroes has to be beaten in one sitting.

>>862905
Ecco is good. But if you hold it against GH (the best Genesis game IMO) then get GH of course.
GH is simply more fun with adapting difficulty and high replayability, and if you find another player it's even better.

>>863021
I love GH. But 2P is a bit too much for the Genny to handle and it starts to lag.

The only horror Resident evil has to offer.

>>863051
I've heard Resident Evil is better than Ecco. Is this true?

>>863054
They are both survival games.

>>863058
But which one is better? Help me anon. This thread is so confusing.

>>863060
do you like orange or apples better?
If you like apples, get RE and Ecco.
If you like oranges get neither. I don't like oranges

>>862986

Her first appearance made me shit myself a little, but once you know about it, no big deal.

She's not SCARY but at least she makes you hate her for all that fucking harassment.

All the bosses in Killer7 were weird but the lastish one stands out.
He's hanging from the ceiling and you have to shoot his sides so he swings back and forth and his pants fly off, then his crotch is his weak point.

>be 8
>shit pants every time

>>862646
/v/, pls go

Dead Hand from OOT scares me every time I play through the Bottom of the Well.

Pic related.

>>863269
I agree.

>>863268
not retro but ya

Everything from Cho Aniki.

>>863268
I just beat this today, and that game is chock full of unsettling-ass bosses. Great game tho.

That nigga's eyes were what got me, so lifeless. And the dick shooting.

>>864393
hurrdurr if people have opinions they must be from /v/ which is on the exact same site as this board. such a well constructed argument right?
>butthurt ecco fan
Your series is never coming back. hahahahaha

>>863223
But dolphins have nothing to do with zombies. Ecco is such a casual game it doesn't even have limited saves. Babby's first 2D platformer

>>855629
A still doesn't do this fucker justice, someone should gif him.

I'm playing the 3DS shinobi right now, hoping body weapon dude makes a triumphant return in 3d. If not, the Shinobi III 3DS port is a definite purchase for me

>>862916
Man I wish I didn't use cheats for that game back as a kid. That boss fight didn't mean much shit to me other than timing jumps. I'm sure the build up to it would've been better had I not played the entire game with Spidey Unlimited's invisibility.

>>855649
Being Phantoon is suffering.
http://brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/2013/02/26/467-phantoon-has-it-rough/

>>856029

I think it is on NES too but it looks all grey

When I was a kid, the Dragon from Super Zaxxon for the Commodore 64scared me since the intro music with it creates Nightmare Fuel.

>>864454
Dead Hand scared the FUCK out of me as a little kid. I did not want to go into that room.

>>859493