/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8553669
The SNES had objectively the better library. It's not even debatable.

Sega Genesis has more masculine games. Snes for kids/girls

>>8553669
Why do you ask?

>>8553669
If you’re a sissy baby girl who likes to pretend you’re an elf or whatever gay shit, SNES

If you’re a chad athletic ubermensch that likes to blast aliens in the face and fuck hot babes, MD

>>8553678
I don’t blame you for thinking that, it was how it was advertised.

>>8553681
Because I like to see you people argue, it’s entertaining.

>>8553678
>masculine games

Simmer down there zoomie. That library loaded with Shmups isn't fooling anybody.

>>8553691
So it's a self admitted troll post, you know that's against the rules right and can get you banned.

snes

Genesis did feel a little more "adult" in its catalogue, though I still feel SNES had the better library overall.
IDK about tech stuff either but Genesis had a sound chip that could produce a particular bassy drone that you never got on the SNES

>>8553669
PC Engine with CD addon is better than both

>>8553726

>>8553735
Seething westfag.

megadrive had more arcade style games because it could have a lot of sprites at once, and had a 68000 cpu which is what a lot of arcade games were using, so it was easy to port over the game logic, but it lacked colors, 64 colors max without tricks, shame

SNES had great colors but a shit processor. Had better JRPGS and some good action games but a lot of games suffered from the sprite limitation and vram limitations. Beat em ups would only have 2-3 enemies on screen MAX, maybe 4 if they were all the same enemy type.

Sound is debatable, depends what you like.

the Genesis heralded the 16 bit era that the SNES would later bring a more definitive beginning to. i think the SNES is the superior system overall but it's hard to deny that each console's existence was heightened by its competition with the other. they were playing to different audiences and setting out to accomplish different things, but Nintendo was more patient than Sega and had ultimately a better understanding of where things were headed.

>>8553737
>a lot of sprites at once

>>8553751
>he doesn't know...

>>8553737
>and had a 68000 cpu which is what a lot of arcade games were using, so it was easy to port over the game logic
Didn't do a thing to help all those ghastly Amiga arcade ports.

>>8553764
They didn't have the source code for most of those games but the Amiga Bad Dudes is actually pretty good.

>>8553706
It’s not a troll post.

>>8553751
the paper specs are useless when it can't move more than like 3 sprites without slowing to a crawl and the sprite RAM is too limited to fit very many anyway

>>8553669
Amiga wins.

>>8553787
Super FX
Cx4
DSP
S-DD1
SA1

>>8553791
Amiga who?

>>8553751
>resolution
this always confused me. I thought resolutions were standard on TVs back then. like aren't NTSC and PAL set, unchanging resolutions? I thought these old consoles were outputting images that directly lined up with the pixels in the TV screen and that's why old games look better on CRTs. is it actually an upscaled image?

>>8553669
say what you will, but I prefer SNES. I grew up with Genesis and really I still prefer SNES. people like to say that Genesis was way ahead when in came to arcade games and action. but all they mention is muh blast processing and speed.
SNES simply had better third parties that made better games and focused on it more than Genesis. And Nintendo was producing some of its best games in its history. Not only that, SNES simply had way more than just arcade action, with games like Super Metroid, SMRPG, etc.
Ironically, when it came to just action, it also often did better than Genesis. I'm still yet to find anything on Genesis that comes close Megaman X. Even Castlevania and Contra were better on SNES (although still good on Genny). It's sad because Genesis had good hardware, it just didn't sell well in Japan and the 3rd parties stuck to SNES. I think its potential for games was never tapped fully.
And don't get me wrong, I still think that Genesis had some games that hardly had good analogs on SNES, like Sonic 2/3&K or Streets of Rage 2. And I have a soft spot for a lot of Genesis stuff like Phantasy Star 2, Thunder Force, etc. but for literally everything else, I just look at Genesis library, and I don't see much I want to play. I don't have this issue with SNES, you can always find good stuff you barely knew about.

>>8553802
>imagine being this afraid of the words "reddit spacing"
Nope, not gonna read that sir.

>>8551784
SNES wins in most fried CPUs.

>>8553674
Um actually, I agree with you snes has the better games take this and go home you’ve earned it.

>>8553802
>I just look at Genesis library, and I don't see much I want to play. I don't have this issue with SNES, you can always find good stuff you barely knew about.
sure the SNES has cutesy weeb platformers with characters voiced by dead porn actresses but the Genesis also has cool niche exclusives like The Ooze.

>>8553820
SNES had Square

>>8553802
>I don't have this issue with SNES, you can always find good stuff you barely knew about.
Then again the Japanese library is filled with shovelware crud including piles of trash anime/manga licensed games and mahjong shit. RPGs that aren't Enix/Square's are also largely diminishing returns.

>>8553794
Amiga 500, the best 16 bit gaming system in existence.

>>8553812
>why do I not use voltage regulated PSUs
>doesn't own a 1chip or APU model at this point
Beats being deaf on account of half the Genesis revisions literally raping your ears asunder.

>>8553830
Pre-1988, excluding arcades, yeah probably.

>>8553812
I have a SNES, which I believe to be a GPM unit from the S/N and I'm scared to use it unless I mod it even though I have the original Nintendo PSU and not a chink replacement one.

how many times do you have to be told
genesis does what nintendont

>>8553840
Post 1988 Amiga games were the best though, but yes, unless you're an arcade junkie. Doesn't mean it doesn't run arcade style games fairly well, but the titles available for it were subpar.

>>8553669
Talking about the games is basically irellevant because they arent for sale for the systems any more and are not going to be the driving force in anyone buying one or the other. All the games can be had and played by anyone without the system.
The only way to discuss this is purely on specs alone. And by specs I mean graphics. Which had the best graphics? The SNES.

>>8553854
There were some bright moments like Bad Dudes and Rodland but many Amiga arcade ports were utterly horrifying.

>>8553820
I love The Ooze, Garfield Caught In The Act, and Boogerman and two of those are Mega Drive exclusives and one has an inferior SNES port.

>>8553862
two of those games are typical awful 90s grossout shit and even Garfield had that one level with the Odie slime waterfall. unless you're literally 13 why would you think this shit was cool in any way?

>>8553828
>Then again the Japanese library is filled with shovelware crud including piles of trash anime/manga licensed games and mahjong shit.
this is the standard cope. i dont care if it has 9000 shovelware titles when it has hundreds of truly good ones. you could same shit about Genesis too, and any console for that matter, from NES to PS1.
>RPGs that aren't Enix/Square's are also largely diminishing returns.
so? FF, Chrono Trigger, SaGa, SMRPG, all the DQ games, Live A Live and the two Mana games are good enough already, then you add Quintet trilogy, Lufia II, Ogre Battle, and many more deeper cuts—that's more than enough to me. Are you telling Genesis anything close to that?

The MD thankfully was not "blessed" with Beethoven's 2nd or Bebe's Kids.

>>8553846
Serial numbers aren't a good indication and can vary a lot on what's actually inside so best to open it up and verify if you need to know and when you're in there in the first place do this VERY simple and reversable mod: https://console5.com/wiki/SNES#Vertical_Line

When it comes to CPUs frying that's because the earlier boards didn't have proper CPU voltage regulation safeties, this can be mostly prevented with having properly regulated and isolated PSUs that filter spikes and "dirty" power. The best you usually can get are made for hifi equipment but can be VERY costly, a much cheaper and absolutely adequate solutions is "noiseless" guitar pedal PSUs, what a lot of guys are using is this one: https://truetone.com/1-spot/, as a bonus you'll get cleaner video and sound signals and you can daisy chain several consoles to just one unit safely up to 1700ma draw at once which probably won't happen as you only have one console on at a time.

tldr:
- Do: https://console5.com/wiki/SNES#Vertical_Line
- Get: https://truetone.com/1-spot/

>>8553820
I find it funny that sega fans pretend that Genesis was for real macho men while SNES was for girly weebs. yeah sure, liking Sega makes you an alpha male. sounds like you're trying too hard buddy, maybe you're a bit insecure about something? are you still butthurt about SNES winning and Sega losing? it's been 25 years, maybe get over it?

>>8553669
Snes had lots of rpgs and a selection of nintendo games. Genesis had everything else

>>8553893
It's probably a GPM I have because it doesn't have the old style eject button font or molded plastic S/N, it has a paper sticker. it has the soft SHVC/GPM picture and not the more crisp RGB/1-CHIP video. I don't use it that often because I don't have many games and SNES stuff has always been kind of hard to find in my area for some reason while Mega Drive games are much more abundant.

SNES has been dead for decades, while Genesis is alive and well and getting good new games. So The winner is pretty clear.
No one wants to make SNES games.

>>8553914
even the Japanese don't make stuff for it, only Famicom homebrew

The SNES has the problem that a lot of its best games never made it out of Japan hence Westerners were stuck with piles of mediocre licensed shovelware platformers.

>>8553914
Say it with me

GEN

>>8553926
ESIS

>>8553927
DOES

>>8553931
WHAT

>>8553909
It could depend on the socioeconomics of your area. SNES owners were generally wealthier than Genesis owners.

>>8553938
NINTEN

>>8553945
DON'T

>>8553909
Flashcarts brother, I have a 50+ collection of SNES games but honestly use my old SD2SNES 99% of the time. Don't buy SNES games in this market, flashcarts only holds the ROMs so playing the games will be exactly the same and you get TONS of translations to play on REAL hardware.

>>8553859
Thank US Gold. Why bother playing arcade ports though, Amiga original titles were better. You couldn't find Populous, Utopia, or Eye of the Beholder at the arcade.

>>8553693
>implying gay jarpig shit isn't 100x worse

>>8553764
Had nothing to do with the 68k but shit source or programmers, there are some great amiga ports out there

>>8553796
>I thought resolutions were standard on TVs back then. like aren't NTSC and PAL set, unchanging resolutions?
Not exactly. They had a set number of scanlines (vertical resolution), but it's an analog signal with no horizontal resolution per se.
>I thought these old consoles were outputting images that directly lined up with the pixels in the TV screen and that's why old games look better on CRTs. is it actually an upscaled image?
Analog TVs had scanlines, not pixels. The output is inherently blurry, and a lot of the time, the graphics were designed for that. But on the console hardware, it's digital, and there are pixels. The programmers and artists were working with pixels that got converted into a blurry analog signal. Jagged edges and dithering (obligatory when dealing with the low resolutions and numbers of colors that the consoles of the time were capable of) are going to look smoother on a CRT, and I guess some people prefer that.
The resolution of the consoles was not really close analog TVs until PS2/Gamecube/Xbox.

>>8553826
soi shit, the best SNES third party was Natsume

>>8553669
SNES had more games but I'd say the Genesis/Mega Drive had the better counterparts.
Take Contra 3 vs Hard Corps or Castlevania 4 vs Bloodlines.

>>8553669
Console war shit bait thread.
Sincerely kill yourself.

>>8553802
>SNES simply had better third parties that made better games
Wrong, they just had more of them.
>SNES simply had way more than just arcade action, with games like Super Metroid, SMRPG, etc.
Super metroid is still an action game just a shit one, and jrpgs are for manchild.
>Megaman X
>top action game
Megaman is for console kids who don't play action games, soitendo kids don't even play actual action games like Natsume's library
>Even Castlevania and Contra were better on SNES
Wrong Bloodlines shits on CV4, Contra 3 is good though HC offered a bit more.

>>8554440
Bloodlines mogs 4 but Contra is harder to decide, Hard corps has more content but 3 is just more fun