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So I'm pricing out games I bought at MSRP or cheaper years/decades ago and have had in storage for about ten years. And holy shit, you should just download everything. I didn't realize how bad it is now.
For some reason, Nintendo stuff has got out of hand the most. PS2 stuff is still pretty sane, but what is it with horror game prices? A lot of Saturn stuff is stupid now, and US Dreamcast stuff is really bad. Still need to price PS1 and Genesis.
I can say that my days of buying for most systems except Famicom are over.

>> No.8550861

What planet have you been on for the past two years?

>> No.8550868

>>8550861
I don't follow games as closely as I used to.

>> No.8550873

>I can say that my days of buying for most systems except Famicom are over.
Pussy

>> No.8550876

>>8550814
Hopefully the bubble bursts soon. The fuckers who run Wata deserve death.

>> No.8551029

>>8550876
if i get rich somehow i want to buy sealed rated games of my favorites or games i want and unseal and play them.

>> No.8551032

>>8551029
Based. Please do so right in front collector fuckwits.

>> No.8551042

When I was 15 I decided to start collecting. It was the early 2000s. I used to go to physical stores, forums, etc
I never paid full price for an old game, what would even be the point? It would be ridicolous.

Now I'm selling everything because I need the money. Thank God young me was able to obsess and spend money wisely. Basically 15 years old me is paying the bills of my 34 years old failing ass.

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8551586

Not my problem.

>> No.8551597

>>8551586
Where can I buy this raspberry pi case?

>> No.8551604
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8551604

Its faster and easier to just use gameye.

>> No.8551610

>>8551032
They would enjoy that though, lmfao. It makes what they own even more valuable.

>> No.8551698

>>8551604
How the hell are PS2 games that expensive? By that console games had minimum print runs around 50,000.

>> No.8551727
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>>8550876
>Hopefully the bubble bursts soon

There is no bubble. Just a complete absence in supply with ever growing demand. 20 years from now these prices will be considered a bargain.

>> No.8551741

Yeah, US game prices are completely insane now. Japanese games are still pretty affordable for the most part, thankfully

>> No.8551743

>>8551727
you are a dumb fuck. the second hand games market is propped up by trading between parasites who believe they are making an "investment" and retards who believe super mario on NES is rare. in japan this shit is rightfully sold as JUNK for bargain bin prices. this mental illness is exported from the US to the broader english speaking world, orchestrated by the same types of people who trade comic books and baseball cards. its how you ruin a hobby for actual human beings.

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>>8551743
>Trying to convince himself that basic economic models are wrong
>Loads up 4 separate fallacies in a desperate bid to justify being poor and missing the boat

>> No.8551783

>>8551759
sorry anon you're right. im seething because i didnt hold some mediocre hidden gems for 20 years to make a couple hundred that i would've made from a day at work.

>> No.8551801

>>8551783
>im seething
sure sounds like it

>> No.8551802

>>8551586
That thing went from $130 to $200 since last year and that doesn't even include a case, the ram expansion you need to play most games, or a way to plug controllers into it lol

>> No.8551806

>>8551802
have you priced out a GPU for running huge stacks of shaders lately?

>> No.8551808

>>8551806
what are you talking about

>> No.8551821

>>8551808
everything is expensive now

>> No.8551831

>>8551821
but what does what you said have to do with anything

>> No.8551842

>>8551727
It can go either way. Sometimes it is a bubble. There was a brief window when Final Fantasy VII was going for upwards $90. That seems to have burst. But others, like Earthbound, seem to have no ceiling whatsoever.

>> No.8551998

>>8551698
People really want horror games. Horror games and JRPGs have the highest demand.

>> No.8552295

>>8551802
It was <100 when I bought it, so not only do I get 1:1 accuracy with hardware, I actually made money.

>> No.8552304

>>8552295
>1:1 accuracy with hardware
lol

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>>8550876
Fat chance, bozo. The feds have already fined Halperin multiple times over the past 40 years for all the speculative bubbles he's started, and yet he's still running his scheme. He's the John Gotti of collectors, he's in his 60s, and he shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon. If we're lucky, MAYBE Kahn will take the fall, but in the meantime you'll just have to cope.

>> No.8552336

>>8552304
I forgot to mention the free zero lag I got with it.

>> No.8552341

>>8552313
Incredible seethe in this image

>> No.8552419
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>>8552295
>emulating hardware to emulate software
>accuracy

>> No.8552441

>>8551743
Hence why I'm glad I can still buy mostly JP games for dirt cheap compared to international versions

>> No.8552479

Huefag here and GBC MGS was about 20 USD sealed in box 3 years or so ago over here, got me 3 copies, get fucked OP.

>> No.8552615

>>8552295
people still think that reverse-engineered emulation in hardware is somehow magically more accurate than reverse-engineered emulation in software?

>> No.8552624

>>8552615
It's even worse than that, a lot of the cores are just shitty ports from MAME so they have the same bugs.

>> No.8552645

>>8552479
I own it too, so kindly fuck yourself.

>> No.8552673

>>8551727
I remember when I thought Snatcher on Sega CD for $300 was too much. Usually I don't care for EOP editions of games, but that one has content not in the other versions of Snatcher

>> No.8552685

>>8552673
There’s also no Japanese Mega CD version.

>> No.8552690

It's amazing how retards never seem to grasp what an FPGA does and why it's better, It's like a cognitive blind-spot revealing some kind personal-disorder or developmental deficiency or syndrome.

>> No.8552694

>>8552690
most people don’t really know what’s going on inside a computer, let alone inside a CPU

>> No.8552701

>>8552685
I wish it had gotten one though. An Integral-style reverse localization of the English dubbed version with Japanese text and subtitles. I'm guessing it came out a bit too late during the Mega CD's lifespan, since the Saturn launched at the same time.

>> No.8552707

>>8552690
it's amazing how fpgafags are never able to demonstrate how it's better practically

>> No.8553146

>>8550814
The prices have been artificially inflated by speculators and shady companies

>> No.8553181

>>8552707
Which is more practical is going to depend on what you're trying to play and the accuracy of its emulation in software.
If your target game emulates perfectly on your machine or to your own standard then whatever. But the technical advantage of an FPGA should be obvious. You're not emulating the hardware, you're mocking it. Speed and accuracy should just be inherent across the board. Inaccuracies should be more apparent and easier to fix over a shorter span, days to months not years to decades.

>> No.8553187

>>8551586
MISTer fag strikes again!

>> No.8553205
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I’m pretty sure this is the top for nes and snes games for sure. It really crazy and I’m now selling my stuff.
I’m getting 5-10 times what I payed and I don’t really play it anymore.
Gonna buy silver with my profit

>> No.8553373

>8552707
You've been told, shown and carefully explained in detail, several times, over almost several years now, information that is easily found and absorbed. The fact that you are capable of passing the new abstract sliding captcha verification suggests you also have the required intelligence of understanding the benefits FPGAs, so the problem just is that you won't admit that you actually do and it's irrefutable.

Why? No one really cares about why you do anything do they honestly, but any retort from you is always lazy lies and blatantly wrong with no arguments based on any understanding of the subject matter, with how vehemently insistent and obnoxious you are it probably would be fairly easy to peg you as a just short of midwit antisocial psychopath with the usual slew of comorbid personality-disorders that always follows.

Just to prove my point, attempt to technically refute these arguments for FPGAs:
>realtime and parallel simulation
>not beholden to OS overhead
>bit-perfect code execution fed directly to your display digital-to-digital in realtime
>no more latency or even less than the system it is simulating in execution

>> No.8553490

>>8553373
not the person you're responding to, and while those bullet points are technically possible, they aren't necessarily the case for all FPGA recreations. You could easily make a FPGA recreation which isn't accurate and increases lag over the simulated system.

>> No.8553665

>>8553490
Sure, but you would not use those as good and accurate FPGA implementations are freely available and updated if there are issues. And even less accurate cores could/would benefit from the same FPGA advantages as listed just because of how low-level, fast and direct the code is executed.

It would kinda be like judging the capabilities Famicom based on the lesser and shoddy clones of it, or the SNES based on some of the 1chip glitches or the Mega Drive based on the horrible sound half the revisions had, there are bad versions out there but they're all proper consoles if you make them right, it's the same with FPGA implementations too but it has the one up on the OGs with that it acts like hardware that can be reprogrammed better at any time.

>> No.8553928

FPGA is also the only option for interfacing with real game carts. You can't really do that with software emulation.

>> No.8553960

>>8553928
?
what are you talking about

>> No.8553973

>>8551783
yes, that's exactly what he's saying, and you are.

>> No.8554024

>>8553960
Exactly what it sounds like. You can clone the original hardware with an FPGA implementation and use real carts just like the original system. Emulators can't do that.

>> No.8554036

>>8554024
psx emulator can use real disc so why not cart based system beside a lack of peripheral to read the cart.

>> No.8554041

>>8554024
again, what are you talking about

>> No.8554048

>>8552479
Why every brazilian find necessery to say that he is brazilian?

>hur brazilian here
>huehue fag here dur
>as a brazilian
>I'm from Brazil and

Nobody cares where you from.
Brazilian here btw.

>> No.8554056

>>8554048
Because MGS has always been notoriously expensive in burgerland and very cheap over here for many years. It required some specification. Me mama preto de merda.

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>>8551727
>There is no bubble

>> No.8554902

>>8550814
yes! hello, hi!
the united states is printing unlimited money!
we will call you back once the prices level out and stabilize lmao

>> No.8556009

>>8554056
Vá você mamar os gringos, vira lata complexado.

>> No.8556849

>>8553373
Meant for >>8552707

>> No.8556862

>>8554036
Carts work differently than CDs. Emulators have to dump them first before they can read them due to timing. So all those emulator boxes that have cart slots are really just playing roms dumped from the cart prior to starting the game. They aren't actually interacting with the carts during gameplay like the original console would. FPGAs can.

>>8554041
What part are you having trouble with?

>> No.8556873

>>8554628
>no manual
into the trash.

>> No.8557852

>>8556862
>Carts work differently than CDs. Emulators have to dump them first before they can read them due to timing. So all those emulator boxes that have cart slots are really just playing roms dumped from the cart prior to starting the game. They aren't actually interacting with the carts during gameplay like the original console would. FPGAs can.
Who cares about technical minutiae like that? It doesn't make a difference to how the game runs if it's streaming from the cartridge or if it's dumped first. If it works, it works. You can't tell by playing the game which it is doing.

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>>8553373
>Why? No one really cares about why you do anything do they honestly, but any retort from you is always lazy lies and blatantly wrong with no arguments based on any understanding of the subject matter, with how vehemently insistent and obnoxious you are it probably would be fairly easy to peg you as a just short of midwit antisocial psychopath with the usual slew of comorbid personality-disorders that always follows.

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>>8557857