/vr/ - Retro Games

I can only assume cartridges would be fucking huge by now.

>minimal voice acting
>no prerendered cutscenes

GCN/PS2 era would be much worse, but for the PS3 era might just be better.

I think digital distrubtion would hit earlier.

The PC would have to have failed on CDs as well, and we all know how that turned out.

But let's postulate- games would come on USB drives instead, no DRM necessary.

>>853787
They probably would have gotten Neo Geo AES big before shrinking down to the size of thumb drives and encased SD cards

>>853791
So, less storytelling? Fine by me, as long as gameplay doesn't suffer.

check out the 3ds and you have contemporary cartridge games

less space used on shit cinematics, no annoying loading times

games would probably end up on something like a compact flash sized carts, and storage would probably have became cheaper because of it.

>>853793
OP here
I should have specified that this thread was for console gaming only lol
but yea i see that happening to PC too

Games would be more expensive. I probably would have given up on console games as a teen.

Optolythic data rods.

>>853793

>>853784
>Let's say CD gaming failed as a whole (PSX, Dreamcast, etc) , and we still relied on cartage for our gaming needs.
How about
>Let's say 3D gaming failed as a whole (PSX, Dreamcast, etc) , and we still relied on 2D for our gaming needs.

>>853817

The dreamcast almost had a zip drive. Never understood why they even considered that.

considering the best selling game console of all time is cartridge based (The Nintendo DS) I don't think anything would really be any different

>>853784
OP, you do realize that we've had severy highly successful cartridge based handhelds in the past decade right? (All of them Nintendo systems ironically enough)
Hell, the one time in the past decade a handheld ever failed was when they tried putting a CD in it (fucking PSPs UMD format sucked assholes)

>>853815
you'd only give up because your parents would have stopped buying the games for you

>>853823

>>853839
OP here
I was talking about the main big boy tv consoles (snes, gen, etc)
I need to describe shit better :\

>>853857
>handhelds aren't real consoles because I say so

>>853863

They aren't. They are handhelds.

>>853863
thank you sweetie

>>853857
Too bad, we like the topic we're currently on better.

>>853863
That's not even what he said

Games would still be produced with strict limits in mind and FMVs would have never caught on.

There would be games that are actually games and not interactive movies.

How can I access this alternative utopian dimension?

>>853863
They aren't. A console REQUIRES a connection to the T.V.

>>853805
Probably not. Instead, digital distribution would have caught on when broadband internet became available to consumers. Then the game industry could be in bed with the ISP giants.

>>853891
>requires a connection to a display module
By that respect, PCs are consoles.

>>853917

Except laptops, yea, pretty much

>>853891
Seriously how stupid are you?

Does flash memory count as cartridges? The Vita is getting games that'd hold up on 7th gen consoles graphics-wise on its flash cards.

>>853958
Vita graphics suck ass despite its superior hardware
Hell, some 3DS games look 10x better than Vita games
Because no developer want to put in the time and effort to make games for the Vita, because they know the game will sell like shit

>>853958
protip:
My smartphone has better hardware than the Vita.
>buying handhelds for graphics

>>853784
Games would just loaded on Micro-SD cards. But special company ones like the Vita's

>>853972
>Hell, some 3DS games look 10x better than Vita games

Am I on /v/? Your nintenyearold is showing.

>>853958
NGPC had rewritable falsh carts iirc,

>>853987
Not the same guy but.

Dude I hate nintendo but you have to admit that games like OoT in the 3DS look great compared to BOII declassified.

No one cares about doing games for PS Vita really,and I can see why.

>>853987
>Calling someone a "nintenyearold"
>calling someone a [insert company I'm too edgy to like]fag
Your autism is showing

"LEVEL 2"
"Please insert cartridge #17-a"

>>853987
deal with it scrub

>>853784
It would have been much better.
No load times. No movies. Only gameplay

>>853817
I know I'm in the minority, but I fucking loved those things. It felt like a godsend when I replaced my floppies with a handful of these things.
Hell, I still have one somewhere I used for SNES emulation.

>>854057
I used them to store SNES games back in school.

>>854059
Shit yeah, man. My school had zip drives for all their computers, so I put a bunch of self-contained SNES stuff on one and played it every day there.
Teacher was so cool he let me slide if I made him a copy of all of it, which I did. Those were an awesome 2 years.

>>854063
I remember discovering emulation playing Pokemon Blue on a floppy disk.

Being 10 years old I though it was some kind of wizardy.

I had No$GB and a Pokemon Gold rom on a 3" floppy, before it was released in my country. Catching raccoons in Japanese. Amazing.

What cd's did for gaming
>FMV
>Horrible voice acting
>Load times
>Bitrot and scratched discs
CD's was gaming cancer

>>854084
They also lowered developing costs, allowed the market to expand, and paved the road for not only some amazing games at their conception, but modern gaming as we know it.

>>853842
hurr hurr
I chose to play on PS1 because the games were cheaper and that was MUCH more viable with a paper route salary. I guess not everyone earned money as a teen, though.

>>854096
It allowed the market to expand to shitty games everyone and their mother could make. Who gives a fuck if they're cheaper to make. Now my library is filled with a million crappy games.

I had more fun with the few N64 games I had than with the entire PS1 library.

>>854104
Games on the N64 had more lasting appeal. You got your money's worth with them

>>854118
>N64 had more lasting appeal

Only a few games like Mario64 and Golden Eye for example. Generally N64 games had a shitty replay value.

>>854117
So basically you have a difference of taste, and are projecting that into facts?
It would be easier if you just said "don't bother talking to me, I'm a twit".

>>854117
Too bad I like sprites more than melted polygons and blurred textures.

>>853784
No cinematic experiences because they wouldnt fit. Unless they sold games for like $500.

>>853972
>>854006
Are you guys for real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGzHQNvXKSk&t=1m

>>854131
And LoZ OoT/MM, Mario Kart 64, Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Twoie, DK64, Perfect Dark, Blast Corps, Chameleon Twist...

>>853795

Gameplay would suffer.

>>854156

I give you Mario Kart 64 but the rest got relly old after beating it once.

>>854154
Looks better than the PS2. What is the general frame rate on vita games?

>>854156
Banjo Twoie is pretty lackluster in level design since it was rushed as fuck.

And fuck Donkey Kong 64.

>>854104
>paper route

the fuck did you live at? Mayberry?

>>854117
Are you implying that shovelware didn't exist before CDs? If so, you're fucking wrong.

CDs allowed anyone and their mother to produce games, but cartridges in that era limited development to either the company that made them (1st party games) or officially sanctioned developers creating what the company wanted on their system (2nd party games). There was no creativity or say for the consumer, because the only people who knew how to make the games work on a cartridge from back then worked for one of the manufacturers or were basically contractors for them.

The new wave of 3rd party development that came with the adoption of disks effectively gave actual saying power to the consumer, because "anyone and their mother" could make a game as opposed to the one mother company and the two or three of its subsidiaries as before. This, as expected in a capitalistic system, created competition and drove up overall quality, because now options existed.

But sure, keep hating on those Disks, anon. Row row, and all that.

>>854154
>war games

the TRUE cancer of gaming after CDs

>>854167
>Banjo Twoie[sic]
>lackluster in level design

At this point in time, the main difference would just be
>almost nonexistent load times (which isn't just the lack of annoying waits, it also has practical applications for gameplay and shit)
>possibility of coprocessors and shit in certain carts, maybe, I dunno

I definitely don't think voice acting or video cutscenes wouldn't exist, although we probably would have avoided the explosion of shitty FMV games.

But yeah, look back at Conker's Bad Fur Day or Star Fox 64. Those had full voice acting on cartridges with very limited space.
Look at cartridge based stuff of today, like Kid Icarus: Uprising.
Notice that 3DS carts can be 8 GB (if consoles still used cartridges, they would probably be larger), which is the capacity of a dual layered disc for the Wii, like Brawl used.

I guess at any given time games would have had about a fourth or fifth of the capacity they could have had with discs, which isn't all that significant past the 5th or 6th generation of gaming, imo.

>>854162
I've seen Vita games go as low as 25 fps
But I've yet to see ANY Vita game at a full 60fps

>>854209
Do you have dyslexia?

>>854230
>Do you have dyslexia?
>dyslexia

I really don't think you know what that means.

>>854162
Hard to say, I only have an RPG and Star Strike Delta besides a bunch of PS1 games, and they all run at 60. I'd imagine games like that would run around 30 or so, though.

>>854065
>I remember discovering emulation playing Pokemon Blue on a floppy disk.
yes YES

I sold Pokemon Green which I downloaded with my 56k Internet to people in my school and felt like a haxxor

those were the days

>>853784
but why would we say cd based gaming failed?
are you writing a horror story?

We may have had multi-cart games, at least until the storage efficiency hump was overcome. Look at 3DS game cards.