/vr/ - Retro Games

Ocarina, but I don't like either game.

Why are we still having this thread?
Why are we having a thread about 'opinions' at all?

Majora's Mask because of all the feels.


But seriously, it was everything good about Ocarina of Time transported to a world and game that was very different from all other games in the series. For some, this was too different, but for me it struck a certain chord that no other Zelda game has.

>>853849
It's fun to discuss.

Also, what the hell is the point of saging a /vr/ thread? This board moves like molasses anyway.

Majora's Mask simply because it does much more interesting and original things than Ocarina of Time does. OoT just feels like a 3D Link to the Past, which isn't a bad thing but I liked LttP more.

>>853887
>>853854
Pretty much this.
Majora's Mask didn't dumb down anything from Ocarina, they simply improved on it and amped up the writing by 200%.

>>853849
>Why are we having a thread about 'opinions' at all?

This is a discussion board, we like to discuss stuff

>>853841
OoT.

Tried twice to get into MM both times didn't give a fuck.

MM. and it's not even close.

>>853849
THIS right here, is why autistic people ruin this website, it makes it so much harder for people with functioning brains to discuss things
And yes, there ARE actualk autistic people on this website, /g/ for example, proves this, and they even have threads where they discuss their own autism
It is a very real issue on this website, and the level of autistic people here is frighteningly rising

>>853906

>>853841
I enjoy the replay value of Majoras Mask. Meaning, you can go through dungeons again, and fight all the bosses again. Being able to go all the way back to Odolwa with the Fierce Deity Mask is awesome.

>>853906
Autism isn't directly corrolated to being an asshole. There are assholes without autism and autists who are okay guys.

On topic, I prefer OoT, because I got confused about where to go in Majora's Mask as a child.

>>853921
Too be fair, they did sort of fix replayability in the OoT remake for the 3DS (you can re-fight boss battles by going to your bed in your house)
I don't think that really counts though

OoT because it's the perfect game and MM sucks because
>Hurr muh time limit
>muh angst
>muh dark subject matter
Nigga please.

I just replayed MM for the first time since it came out. I never got all the masks when I was younger, so that was really my focus.

There are some problems with this game, mostly a lot of repetition. Not all of this repetition is bad. The way the sidequests branch off is pretty interesting, but somethings are just pure bullshit. For example, I finish the Snowhead Temple, go to the Goron races only to win some gold dust I cannot use because there isn't enough time. Of course I want that brand new sword, so now I have go back and beat a boss I just killed 5 minutes ago....that should not be, it's crap.

The entire Great Bay area feels like it's just filler, busy work.

I could see how people would enjoy replaying this game. You could avoid a lot of the pitfalls knowing when/where to do things. Although, the entire beginning of the game is pretty slow.

Don't get me wrong I do like Majora's Mask, but Ocarina is my choice for the better game.

>>853846
>b-b-but muh highest rated video games of all times ;_;

The only people I know that hated MM was because they were too stupid to understand the time system.

>>853935
Yeah unfortunately that doesn't count because that's *technically* a different game.

>>854082
I agree. The players who didn't pay attention to giant clock in the center of their screen and didn't try to plan out their 3-day cycles tend to have very negative feelings about Majora's Mask. People act like the time limit is some sort of bullshit cheap mechanic, when it's a core game function. Plus the 3-day limit really doesn't become much of a hindrance when you get the song to slow down time to half-speed.

>>853983

Yes, let's have more linear games.

Are you speedrunning or something? Nobody is demanding that you immediately go back in time to beat the bosses again. Besides, you get to skip the entire temple, just for that reason.

It should have been, 'Oh, sweet, some gold dust! Aw, darn, I now realize the trick to getting that sword!', not some childish desire to have everything be rewarded instantly.

The time mechanic in MM is one-of-a-kind, and there's an awful lot to do. If you mess up or don't understand a time-sensitive quest, that's on you, and is in no way the games fault.

>>854082

>The only people that hate this game hate it because they didn't understand a major game mechanic

You're a special kind of faggot. Also you are probably mistaking hate for dislike. I personally though MM was "alright". It's no OoT and it amazes me when you fedora wearers need to bring up how great MM is at the same time diminishing OoT. Just enjoy MM and shut the fuck up.

>>854231
Funny, that anon never even mentioned OoT.

>Just enjoy MM and shut the fuck up.
We're in a thread devoted entirely to MM and OoT.

>>853906
People with autism/aspergers should be rangled up like the Jews and shot.

>>854224
Settle down dude, let's have a civil discussion of the two N64 Zeldas.

>>853983
But you can port to the temple and fight the boss right away, and you wont have to pass the keg exam the second time. It should take a few minutes. If anything, I would get pissed off at having to beat that awful race twice.

>>854224
I've got nothing against the time mechanic, I just think that Gold dust thing just sets you up for failure. There is no way I could have known that gold dust was the prize and that I needed it on the first day.

Of course I didn't have to immediately replay the boss, but who would leave an upgraded sword just sitting there? I know it's there, I gotta have it.

Having to redo a boss fight and a race isn't really much of a "trick" if you ask me.

>>853841
My personal favorite is Majora's Mask.

I just find the world of Termina so alive, being that the people living there have schedules and are actually going about their lives.
Sure it's all scripted, but that's really a benefit to the game. It makes everything so detailed in a way. And that's another thing about Majora, It's such a detailed game.
Although the mechanics in the game are somewhat off putting. Especially the main thing about the game, the three day cycle.
Once I'm playing the game from start it's not to bad, but it's not a game I just casually play from time to time, it really requires dedication.

Well I don't wanna ramble for to long but the atmosphere and solid Zelda gameplay is all there and makes this one of, if not the, best game of all time for me.

Majora's Mask

I never owned OoT and I only played it through later when I got it with Wind Waker. MM has better level design, better characters, better story and slightly better graphics. I had no idea about the fact that it had such a short dev time until I read about it on here. The people who prefer OoT seem to be wearing some heavy nostalgia goggles and mostly seem to like it better mostly because it was the first 3D Zelda (since many of the later Zeldas improve greatly on most aspects of OoT, except Skyward Sword).

>>854224
Calm your aspergers, bro.

>>854278

Kill yourself.

>>853841
Both bored me, but OoT wasn't so boring it kept me from beating the game

>>853964

>Time limit
>You only have 4 hours to do what you want, when no quest in the game takes more than 2 hours, before having to reset

liked majoras mask better.

oot felt like it was a long adventure, it took ganondorf 7 years to control a part of hyrule.
then mm, HOLY SHIT. MAJORAS GONNA APOCALYPSE THE WHOLE TERMINA IN 3 DAYS. FUCK.

>>854484
>i disliked this zelda game because it felt like an adventure.

yeahh.... maybe zelda isn't for you

>>854492
Not the person you are talking too, but I found I hate all the 3D zelda's because they are about "Grand adventures" and not about exploration like the other 2D zelda's were

2D Zelda's are easter egg hunts, 3D Zelda's are countryside tours

Probably MM. I don't really know why. I guess it felt exotic or something. Maybe the time system made it seem more alive. Lots of mysterious things in the game.

OoT, it just got everything right, pacing, great main cast, plot twists, main mechanics like combat and dungeon puzzles, the music. I must have replayed this game more than 50 times, it's just that good, everything fits in seamlessly and has a really distinct progression from a kid to a full grown warrior. You really get connected with the story and the world. Most important of all, you're not stuck doing fetch quests or reading walls of text, there is no need since a lot of things are conveyed none-verbally.

>>854559

>Not stuck doing fetch quests

Really? I remember a game of nothing BUT fetch quests.

"Link, we need X, go to Y and get X!"

That's the whole game.

All the Zelda's do it, but the 3D games are the worst for it because the game uses them as plot devices.

Previous 2D Zelda's just had you beat 8 dungeon's etc so you could clear the final dungeon, but 3D zelda's is all about the Macguffin

"We need the three pendents!" "We need the 6 elements!" etc etc

Were the 2D zelda's like this? Yes, but they did a better job masking it because the games were about gameplay, and not telling a "grand" story

>>854572

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Here is an example of a clearly pre-opened box that's been poorly fucking heatshrink wrapped

SNES stuff were not slice heatshrinked, they were folded plastic which was hot glued together -THEN- heat shrinked to make them hug the box

I thought OOT was the better "Zelda" game, but I did like Majora's mask because of how different it was. The whole 4 dungeon thing was disappointing though.

I like Majora better but I don't think it's completely superior, Ocarina of Time has a lot of places where I think it performs better.

>>854572
>Previous 2D Zelda's just had you beat 8 dungeon's etc so you could clear the final dungeon

that's how OoT was also structured, fetch quests in OoT were minimal, while the most of the time you spent dungeon crawling. Also the grand story unraveled as you progressed in skill and got more accustomed to controls, so it worked great.

Majora's Mask, I'm such a sucker for the Alice in Wonderland theme.

>>853854
mah nigga

>>853964
you're wrong yet funny. fuck off.

OOT

better gameplay, best climax

altho Majora has the better atmosphere

OOT, simply because its portable.

>>853841
gotta go with majora's mask.

Merely because the theming was so ungodly heavy and dark, the tension was so thick you could cut through it with a knife, and the drama filled you with so many feels that it truly trumped over OoT's superior gameplay and status of being a classic.

But it when it really gets down to it, it's really personal taste.

>>853849
If you aren't on the internet to tell someone they're wrong about what they think and why then you're on it for the wrong reasons.

I

>>853849
>why are we having a thread about opinions
he's right guys, lets only talk about facts
>OoT was released in 1998, MM was released in 2000, they are both part of the Legend of Zelda franchise.
Is that easier on your autism?

>>853846
I actually agree with this. I didn't like any of the Zeldas that came out after Link to the Past and Link's Awakening, though I never did get around to playing the Oracle games. How are they?

>>853841
Ocarine of Time was my first entry into the Legend of Zelda, I still play it quite often on the gamecube. But Majoras Mask is my favorite out of the two. When it first came out I was like 9, and I had only gotten to the first temple before my dad sold the game because he thought it would be like Ocarina of time, and it wasn't.

My dad grew to like only the Legend of Zelda titles which featured a tall mature link and I just like them all.

But I like the obscurity of Majoras Mask, a 3 day time period, odd save function, and all of the masks.

Well, thats the end of this emulator. The fucking lense of truth wont work.

Fuck.

>>857446
Yeah well occasionally playing it on the project 64, it wouldn't let me scroll through the windows in the menu screen.

Thats why I went ahead and blew money on the original cartidge.

>>857460
I have tje original cartrige. I just thought it would be fun to play on my phone.

Odolwa was a bitch with tjese controls, too.

>>857503
Yeah those controls look god awful.

Ocarina of Time

Never liked Majora's Mask's time mechanic. I gave it a legit shot when I was a kid and not too long ago on emulator but I just never cared for it. Ocarina was just a lot more fun for me and it felt more like a Zelda game, or at least what I consider to be a traditional Zelda game (I'm pretty conservative about my Zelda).

Majora's Mask was essentially just a professionally-made romhack of Ocarina of Time. Not really substantial enough to be pit in line with other feature Zelda games. Just sort of a unique gimmick.

>>853841
Majora is more alive, I really like dungeon about giant, and that mirror shield ,music, that history ,that ending, characters and it's really fun.

I like also Ocarina but I prefer Majora.

>>857503
Odolwa is a bitch with any controls.

>both
best answer.
They were on the same console, They are basically part 1 and 2 of the same story, they can't be separated in my mind. What kind of loser would willingly pick one over the other.

>>858143
Me. They're different games. And I preferred OoT because of the more interesting world.

My first, and still favourite Zelda was Link's Awakening.

And Majora Mask borrows a lot from it. Its dreamlike qualities, the permanent feel of impending doom (With the difference being that in LA, you're the one who causes said doom, while in MM, you prevent it). The detailed characterisations, the beach and ocean, the swamp.

It's the closest thing we ever got to LA 3D.

OoT meanwhile, is basically LttP in 3D - way more dungeon crawling, less of everything else.

MM all the way for me. I don't exactly like the time limit, but still.

OoT is better overall, but MM has a beautiful and peculiar atmosphere.

>>854495
This is just not true though. There's more stuff to discover in the 3D games hidden in more complex ways compared to the 2D games and they're less linear compared to AoL and LA.

ALttP

>>857620
This.

MM is basically an expansion.
It just doesn't seem up to par as an entire game.

My only complaint with Majora's Mask is that there could've been another dungeon or two.
The outstanding atmosphere puts it as one of my favorite games ever.