/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8500974
The B-team made this game. Not to mention it having console limitations.

If it's too hard then maybe it's not so spoiling to try out the ROMhack that allows weapon-switching? As well as the one that removes slowdown.

>>8500974
>It's nice art
their sense of perspective is so poor it looks like it was found on deviatart.

t. know nothing about art

>>8500974
The game is not hard, it is insufferable due to the dogshit slowdown. You get slowdown from the first fuckin zombie that pops out of the ground.
Play the SA-X romhack or the Saturn version.
Or better yet, play the only good Makaimura game, pic related. Absolute masterpiece. The rest fuckin suck

>>8500997
Filtered hard.

>>8500997
>only good Makaimura game
You say that like it's not one of the best shooter-platformer series.

Having to replay through the entire game to get to the end boss kills it for me. The NES game only made you replay the last level. Never played the arcade versions.

>>8501015
Looping bullshit is a credit-feeding staple from the arcades, like continues and scoring systems. Just forget about the last boss, or find a save state if you care that much.

Not hard, PSP game is harder. My only issue with Super is the extremely long autoscroller.

>>8500974
it's perfectly hard up until trying to kill the fake final boss of loop 2 with the bracelet. right there it becomes too hard.
then the final boss is perfectly hard again

Despite being a child and not making it too far (Level 2 raft section filtered me) I played this game a ton.

Once I got older and emulators became a thing I finally beat this one. Really enjoyed it. I don't think the game is too hard, you just have to put in the time and get good at jumping.

Also, skipping the red devils when you can is absolutely a good idea. And never grab the torch weapon.

>>8500995
>their sense of perspective is so poor it looks like it was painted by hitler
Sadly, only a few of you would get this.

>>8501013
You have never even played these games let alone 1CCd them. Dai Maikamura is vastly superior to every entry in the series. The SNES hardware is not capable of running these games properly

>>8501152
>You have never even played these games let alone 1CCd them
Guess again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZttsrKRvAI
>The SNES hardware is not capable of running these games properly
Use the restoration hack, genius.

>>8501156
I said that in my first post you dumbfuck
>>8500997

>>8501152

>>See people complain about slowdown
>>First Gradius game was 3 on SNES
>>Knows full well I wouldn't have beaten Level 2 without slowdown

Those bubbles and bullets. Gotta get Reduce to even get through this!

Or even better...

>>Always take E Laser to force the game to slowdown while charging shots that act as a shield with the R option

Kino

>>8501169
The restoration hack doesn't use SA1 :)

>>8500974
It has some trickier platforming that requires mastering the double jump but the bosses and enemy AI in general aren't as challenging as previous entries.
Also has too many slow tedious autoscroller gimmicks making replaying it a slog.
>>8500997
Makaimura (arcade version, not the shitty NES port) > Dai >>> Cho > the Wonderswan one

>>8501156
Nice larp, that ain't you

>>8500974
I'm pretty sure the artist who did the cover for Mega Man 1 NES did this one as well. They were just given more time for Super GnG's illustration.

I like the cover. It exemplifies the western localization look of Japanese games from the era.

The game is pretty damn hard, but it is beatable. The problem is how slow the game tends to be.

>>8500974
>Is it too hard?
No. The game is difficult, sometimes incredibly so, but it's never "too hard." All the enemy placements and obstacles are designed in such a way that the patterns can be perfectly overcome without getting hit, it just requires patience and getting really practiced with how the jumping works. The key to this game is mastering the jumping strategies; they're deeper than you think. Here's a couple of simple ones:
>Not sure if an enemy or trap is going to pop up when you make a jump onto a pillar or whatever? Jump towards it, then double-jump away from it halfway in the air.
>Something is chasing you and you can't get the right angle/it has a lot of health? Run away, jump once and immediately turn and fire off a couple of shots, then turn back by the time you land and keep running, then repeat.
Also remember that you can initiate the double-jump at ANY moment after the first jump, unlike basically every game ever. You can leap off a cliff, then at the last moment double-jump to get a cheeky or clutch angle at something.

i really don't like these games and I'm tired of pretending that I should

try the GBA port in Arrange mode. it has new/remade levels and removes slowdown, and only one loop. you really notice how empty the levels are in SGnG after that.. the GBA exclusive levels feel a lot busier.

>>8500995
I always got so hung on on the playing card-tier drawing of Arthur that I never even noticed how shit the monsters are. what the fuck are those zombies, jfc

>>8502961
Well the prerequisites for enjoying GnG are:
>arcade 1CC mentality, besides being intended, you appreciate the RNG as making the earlier levels more interesting on your retrys
>you like run n gun games
>you like platform-action games
>you want something inbetween these genres

Which did you lack? I don't think the series fails to satisfy this taste at all.

>>8501015
Use a save state, beat it, and move on.

>>8502961 #
Well the prerequisites for enjoying GnG are:
>arcade 1CC mentality, besides being intended, you appreciate the RNG as making the earlier levels more interesting on your retrys
>you like run n gun games
>you like platform-action games
>you want something inbetween these genres

Which did you lack? I don't think the series fails to satisfy this taste at all

>>8502961
I tend to agree. There are a half-dozen other platformers with similar gameplay but easier difficulty that don't have any notoriety that are better games overall.

>>8503251
>Magical Quest
>Ghosts n Goblins
>similar

Refer to >>8503236

>>8500974
>Art is very representative of the game and its genre
>'It's too generic!'

>>8503386
>Art is very representative of the game and its genre
Not really. The other GnG covers at least make it clear he uses throwing weapons. This one could easily be misconstrued as a slasher. It does show the theme and art of the game well though.
>'It's too generic!'
That's not a given just because it's representative.

>>8500995
>their sense of perspective is so poor it looks like it was found on deviatart.
Just like your average medieval art. I know it's not intentional but it fits.

>>8503386
Faceless knight goes off to fight monsters?

There's no character or voice being conveyed. It just looks dull and mundane.

>>8501969
Check the comments on the video.

>>8500986
>The B-team made this game
Then they should have become the A-Team because it's Capcom's best 16-bit console game. Mega Man X doesn't even come close, and even if G'nG wasn't an arcade port it still isn't quite as good as Super G'n'G

>>8503527
Holy based

>>8503557

>>8501014
>You say that like it's not one of the best shooter-platformer series.
100% truth. This and Contra are the obvious apex of the genre

>>8503236
They aren’t fun enough to me for how difficult they are. It’s just punishment

>>8503558
Based on what?

>>8503579
Based on Super GnG you fucking moron it's right in the video go back to school idiot

I've beaten this game on the first loop, and I felt pretty satisfied with the game like that.
I find playing games without intention on beating them to be more enjoyable, that way I don't have to get angry at yet another thing in life. I suck and that's fine by me. I'm too old for that shit.
It's a beautiful game and aside from the slowdown(idgaf about that anyway) it feels very well made.

>>8503469
>>8503446

Man, whatever its faults I would take Super GnG's cover art over >>8503561 any day. I love how the background matches the first level, especially in terms of atmosphere, it's spot on I think. That stage has always had a mix of dreariness and sillineess that I think the cover capture. I especially like the zombies in the back lurching about in that slovenly way.
I like the knight too overall. I don't mind that its not distinctly Arthur. A knight with is visor down was a pretty appealing image back then to a lot of players. It certainly reached out to me in a way better than the japanese art would have at the time.
My favourite GnG Cover is still pic related, though. The reapers, the skulls, and the demon's head are very threatening and the background is very ominous. The knight is again not clearly arthur and his armour is oddly stylised but I don't mind it overall. I prefer it to the other version of the same image seen here: >>8500997
This art actually lended a bit of dread to playing the c64 version which felt a lot more haunting than most others because of its black background and Tim Follin soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz36JWHTk-A

>>8503557
>even if G'nG wasn't an arcade port it still isn't quite as good as Super G'n'G
>GnG 3 is better than 2
Contrarian.

>>8503527
Anyone could have added that

S.o.u.l

>>8503235
Doesn't count. You suck at games.

I tried the For WonderSwan remake but in a way it feels worse than the original because of how it uses earlier entry assets without much alternation and the "remix" style mechanics. That's right a professional shitty portable game feels better than a decades later amateur game. Sad!

>>8503640
>Contrarian.
The platforming/jumping makes Super G'n'G the better game. They're both pretty equal otherwise, and both 10/10

>>8505686
the "remake" might as well be a completely new game, but I agree

>>8501116
>raft section
I don't find that bit particularly hard these days, but I do find it very boring compared to the rest of the game, which i rather enjoy.

>>8500974
Jesus you'll cry and whine about anything. Do you bitch and moan that your dad doesn't kiss you after you give him a reach around? Fucking casual.