/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

AD MORTEM
Beta thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461
Current release
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18le6ho89YT_myg8CiUUk2mw1439zPyyJ/view

=== NEWS ===
[12-27] 13 minutes of Quake-related updatess for 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARsN0xldnys

[12-27] Exorcist for Hexen
https://www.moddb.com/mods/exorcist/downloads/exorcist-full-version

[12-25] DBP43: Christmas In Inferno is out now:
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2365/christmas-inferno

[12-24] Alien Vendetta MIDI pack announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126485

[12-23] RC1 of Ozonia is out
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103371

[12-22] Mars3D now has a sourceport
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126060

[12-22] xGreed sourceport updated
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/115331

[12-21] Quake 2022 Preview, includes Dwell Episode 2
https://youtu.be/ARsN0xldnys

[12-19] Elementalism Phase 1 Trailer
https://youtu.be/wtpqv2YmSb4

[12-16] Hell's Christmas, monster pack for GZDoom.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=74168

[12-16] R-Type themed Doom mod teaser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szR9xWcg1U4

[12-14] Sunder map20 released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002

[12-14] Xmas Jam 2021 released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/arcane-dimensions/addons/xmasjam2021

[12-12] Zandronum 3.1 is out
https://zandronum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=10437

[12-11] Retroquad 0.10.0 is out, last release of the year
https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1469681148880109573

[12-10] Patchwork has been cancelled

=== PREVIOUS ===
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TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

Carl "Sandy" Petersen

Let's go for a swim.

>>8472381
He made some neat maps.

>>8472338
question for everyone,what FOV do you guys use?
i already did it in /v/,but i wonder how different this poll will be.
https://strawpoll.com/fp6wfsao9

>>8472462
He also, quote, "nutted in that good Mormon pussy 8 times."

Not even 10 seconds after I read that original post back in January, my mom told me that my dad got his second negative COVID test. That one anon made the end to that period of paranoia poetic. Thanks anon, wherever you may be.

FRIDAY NIGHT FIREFIGHT1111!!!!!!! fashionably late

>>8472476
I'm pretty sure the FNF guy said there's nothing tonight due to new year's

How do i merge doom2.wad with pg-raw.wad with DEUSF to play Perdition's Gate like god DOS intended?

This year, i shall finish this map.
Or at least make another one and recreate the Moai.

>>8472481
Join the server fuckass

>mustard levels for doom 2
>they're easier than the regular doom 2 levels
>still better than the sandman's
explain

>>8472476
I imagine many people are busy today but it was nice to jump in for a bit and see some familiar faces.

>>8472535
What the fuck am I thinking of then, I swear to fuck it was cancelled for a holiday at some point
Was it last week?

Recommend me a slaughterwad for Russian Overkill.

>>8472574
italo

>>8472546
I take it back, The Combine seems like something someone who peaked in highschool would make. Easy but somehow worse than any sandman level.

>>8472570
I said for Christmas, not the whole month

>>8472545
UNF

>>8472634
I forgot.

>>8472574
No Chance

>>8472546
I don't agree, Attack and Mephisto's Maosoleum fall completely flat next to Tricks & Traps and Halls Of The Damned

>>8472574
Okuplok

>>8472292
Oh hey my post made it onto the computer screen

Happy New Year, anons.
I kept my promise, Revae... Technically. Just got lucky in gifting threads, so you got dollars instead of rubles. No, Ivan isn't my actual IRL or Steam name.

No excuses to not play REKKR now... Also HROT and some other gems.

This is probably shit most of you guys already know, so feel free to skip this post.

However, lately I have been putting some minor thoughts into what generally makes for an enjoyable Doom level or .wad and compiled them.

>Generally a good idea to create any given map around having a pistol start.
>Give the player appropriate tools for the enemies they'll encounter. Shotguns and Chainguns for fighting weak enemies, plasma and rockets for fighting stronger enemies. Don't make the players fight Barons with a shotgun too many times.
>Sometimes -- more is more. Two Hell Knights can be more engaging than a single Baron of Hell or having ten zombie men vs a single chaingunner.
>Spectres, Pinkies, Hell Knights and Barons are the best at controlling player movement or locking them out of rooms temporally.
>Explosive barrels make groups of weak enemies, especially hitscan, less tedious to fight
>Be aware of infighting when deciding enemy placements. Mancubi are generally some of the best infighers. Followed by Barons, Arachnotrons and Revenants.
>Pinkies and Lost Souls are great for curbing player usage of the rocket launcher when necessary
>Partial invisibility is only really useful against hitscan
>obvious, but be aware of map flow. establish goals early on and make puzzles solvable
>make damaging floors in a level or .wad consistent. or at least mark them with the warning signs.
>aesthetics are important. break up samey areas with decorations, differing textures, carpeting, nested textures and varying light sectors.

anyone else have some tips they'd like to share?

>>8472819
Thanks, Ivan Ivanovich. Hope you like it.

>>8472823
one thats often neglected in even the best WADs.
knowing when to force a pistol-start.
some maps you make will be totally broken with a huge load-out and 80 rockets and 400 cells,so killing the player when you need to is a good idea,even if it stings to lose everything when you aren't used to pistol starting,don't so it every other level,but after like 10 and you want to start more fresh,its a very good idea.

>>8472857
That's good. Like what the Scythe series does.

what is his endgame?

>>8472338

playing some 32X doom goodness in 2022

>>8472494
>he doesn't know
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/NEXTSTEP

>>8469130
The creator dropped out of the project, he handed it off to (nu) 3D Realms.

>>8472913
is that the revised port?

>>8472823
>>Spectres, Pinkies, Hell Knights and Barons are the best at controlling player movement or locking them out of rooms temporally.
I'd say Pinkies are the least intimidating at that, unless you mean absolutely flooding a room with them (in which case most other enemies are the same). Knights/Barons are too slow in their movement for that purpose as well. For me it'd be Chaingunners + Revenants

Happy new year, Doombabs!!!

>>8472934

yeah just got the 1.5 patch and I'm about to throw it on my everdrive, just had to test it first

>>8472956
Did he add the Cyberdemon, Mastermind, Spectre, crushers, light amplification visor and partial invisibility?

>>8472913
Y tho.

>>8472956
It has two-player? That's impressive.

>>8472935
Somewhat related, but I’ve noticed how much I like pinkies when they’re between me and an elevated threat launching ranged attacks. They can shoot right at me while the vertical aim assist wants to aim at the closer pinkies.

>>8472935
>I'd say Pinkies are the least intimidating at that, unless you mean absolutely flooding a room with them
yes.
Pinkies are good threats vs players early on when they're underequipped. Even a couple of Pinkies or Spectres can really slow down a player if all you have are a shotgun. It helps that they're fast and can swarm a player in smaller arenas and rooms.
Hell Knights and Barons are an variation of this somewhat. They're both beefy, but they're also slow and not too terrible threatening (compared to Revenants missiles, Mancubus fireballs and Arachnotron plasma), so you put a couple in a doorway and block a player's entrance or exit.

>>8472852
I'm sure I will.

Maybe only tangentially retro-related, but are any of you guys listening to any tracker music before the year ends? It's been a tradition of mine for around 15 years now, and I'm surprised that I stuck with it for this long. Here's one of my favorites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzjhq93rQ5I

>>8473026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgCBGY-_vh8

All rise for the theme of DAKKA

>>8472971

Maps don't have crushers and the bosses are still missing until someone figures out memory mapper. I think the rest is working

>>8472905
to get the beaks, obviously

>>8473039
this screencap hurt my soul and I demand an apology

>>8473039
What do you think of Doom 32x Delta?

>>8473060
my apologies, have this one instead

>>8473061
admirable effort and I heard they are merging with the team that did this mod

>>8473080
It's okay Anon, you've redeemed yourself. I wish you a happy new year and will raise a drink for you!

where can I find a list of the all time most popular wads?

>>8472956
>>8473039
It's looking real good. This hack had that really cool recomposed soundtrack, right?

someone posted a violent rumble playthrough

https://youtu.be/1cdru1xFXwQ

>>8473114

this was what they used
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FehpU0sjXrQ

>>8473164

>>8473164
Oh fuck, imagine being a 90s gamer in an alternate universe where the 32x port wasn't total ass (along with the music in a literal and figurative sense) and blasting 1:01:44 from a newly purchased stereo system for your living room.

:)

>>8473164
>>8473184
>>8473189
You should hear the one they made of TNT:
https://youtu.be/MTBi5mBhw7k?t=36

>A SECRET IS REVEALED!
>Duuun!
I can never go back to pure vanilla for this sole reason. It’s just not the same without the game sounding the fanfare for every secret I enter.

Happy New Year /vr/!

>>8473318
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpVsNNkKwww

Why don't you use other chans?
Why are you stuck here for doom discussion?

>>8473325
there are other chans?

>>8473325
because it's comfy

happy new year

>>8473325
>Impyling 4*2chan ever made anything of value
Also I like my bros here. Happy new year /vr/.

My new years resolution is to make a Serious Sam map sometime before February is over. I've been putting it off for too long.

>>8473039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_onOG4XFAVo

>>8473345

Nice, so it's programmed but that map has the crusher removed. map edit needed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5wnLruGQDc

>>8473393
It's hard to take notice of the admittedly impressive reflections with all those obvious framerate dips in the wide open areas.

>>8473116
neat. he streamed the blind runs also: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1248913131
and the quaddicted page is up after all: https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/vr1_00.2.html

>>8472340
leaked achievements for possible Goldeneye rerelease/remaster
https://www.trueachievements.com/game/GoldenEye-007/achievements

>>8473325
Point to an imageboard that has a Doom/Retro FPS general and has a post rate higher than one post a month.
>>8473337
>>8473338
Happy new year.

>>8472338
Is it possible to play the Quake Remaster with its new look and rebalanced Nightmare difficulty on VK Quake? I've heard you can play the new episode that way, but what about the Quake 1 remaster itself?

>>8473325
Most of this website is just total negativity. People seem genuinely interested in what they like, not just sticking around so be a contrarian douche and call stuff bad for the sake of replies. This website is still a habit but retro shooter general is just actually not bad to visit so I still show up. Also good place to get news on new mods and stuff

>>8473547
People here seem genuinely interested* forgot a word

>switched from gzdoom to unreal
>mfw I never have to touch sbarinfo again

>>8473457
looks like it's already getting rating-bombed by some illicit people

happy new year

>>8473547
Holy shit, saved, source?

>>8472338

Whatever happened to that Doom reboot project that was super ultra HD?

Hey, PrBoom+is supposed to support .mp3 and .ogg format audio, ostensibly for music. Does it need to be a certain bitrate or something, or could I grab a random .ogg file and just drop it in as D_RUNNIN, and it'll work?

God, I can't wait for Aftershock. Well actually that's a lie, I can wait for it but I'm looking forward to it a lot.

>>8473797
I have no hope that anything published by 3DR will ever release again.

>>8472789
>little duke post

>>8473836
teehee

>>8473756
>reboot project that was super ultra HD
Sounds like those awful graphical modes that somehow look even worse than various jank on Unreal Engine.
Actually, since I've mentioned it... Is there a way to learn about this trend that gave birth to Doomsday's & Dark Places "HD Packs"? Like, how those came to be and were rightfully abandoned. What would be a good start? I suppose people quickly realized that not every game needs to be remastered, yet alone remade (which ki-i-ind of happened anyway, depending on your perspective), but I need to know for sure.
Even though I despise this shit as much as any other sane anon, I think it could actually be a neat subject to dive into. Especially in comparison with certain other /vr/ title that's off-topic for these threads.

I have been playhing modded Doom since gzdoom's inception yet I cant seem to be able to find a weapons/character/inventory mod that trulyh satisfies me.
I need something with satisfying weapons and sounds and polish proper pickup sounds for items and stuff
but all the ones that do these things well are all bloated with sooo much useless shit
why cant they keep it fucking SIMPLE for once why do they have to overdo with bloat
please help me

https://youtu.be/SQ28aKTCL4Y

>>8473797
Hopefully it doesn’t go the way of Overload in being one of the best yet sad shooters, even though it was marginally more successful.

Brutal doom is make me boring for Some reason

>>8472340
The Victors, a big mod for RTCW, is out in russian and english on moddb after 12 years in development hell. Requires RealRTCW.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-victors

>>8473880
Tried final doomer?

"Things you can say about a Doom mod, but not your girlfriend."

>>8473613
There's only one group of people who review bomb, and they Dwell here

>>8474064
You are real.

https://youtu.be/hJwZaKFPvok

>>8473926
Looked really comfy until I realized that’s a toilet
Though maybe some Anons will find that even more comfy

>>8473726
It literally comes up if you use the image search feature through saucenao.

>played Heretic a lot as a kid
>not sure what OS I ran it on (DOS or primitive ports)
>not sure if I ever had custom levels
>remember a level with a dark-blue/ purple sky with lightning that was mostly an open field with tons of Golems and Nitrogolems, perhaps a large warlock tower
>not sure if it was real or just a dream
>search through 90's and 00's Heretic wads hoping to find it
Anybody else stuck in nostalgia cycles by false memories?

>>8472338

Which sourceport do you recommend, gzdoom or zdoom?

>>8474204
Gzdoom. Zdoom is discontinued and you can make gzdoom look retroish with software rendering and low resolution. Neither can record demos nor has the correct rng dmg values, so there is no reason to use zdoom over gzdoom. New gzdoom has even better compability with some older zdoom wads as latest zdoom itself. Only thing that zdoom is needed for nowadays is lilith.

>>8474204
DOOM Retro. Has a built in launcher too. GZDOOM is an unoptimized mess.

>>8474203
It has ettins instead of golems, but it sounds like you’re describing the start of Hexen.
It’s not an FPS but I got Ultima 9 confused with Hype: Time Quest.

>>8474204

GZDoom if you want a modern port with mod support. ZDoom (the port, not the tech) has been obsolete for years, though some new retro-fitted derivatives are currently in development, namely RetroZDoom.

Mind you, your choice of sourceport really depends on how you wanna cater your experiences. If you looking for Vanilla accuracy with some QoL features, go completely old-school or just want things optimised fully that fixes the Doom engine's old quirks and bugs and fuck around with mods?

It's a bit of a loaded question, anon.

you know how tf2 had a feature where plays could spray custom images?
is that possible in doom multiplayer?

>>8474215
>>8474227
Thanks, I'm going to use gzdoom

>>8474234
Doubt it. Doom mp requires that everyone has the same wads. You can't, to my knowledge, start adding them in willy billy.

>>8474203
>Anybody else stuck in nostalgia cycles by false memories?
>tfw remember a game I played at a cousin's house once that I've never managed to find, but can't actually tell if it's misremembered Chaos Engine because we played that too

>>8474217
>DOOM Retro
I am confused about purpose of it. What does it have over GZDoom or Crispy?

>>8474204
Both are shit.
Use:
>Crispy Doom
>PrBoom+
>Eternity Engine
>Woof

>>8474305
It's a middle ground, offering some nice features while keeping the retro look and feel. It also has a built-in WAD launcher, and I can't emphasize how useful this is. That GZDOOM, arguably the most popular source port, doesn't have one is baffling to me. No need for yet another program to act as a frontend. DOOM Wiki has a list of all it offers; https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Doom_Retro

The only thing that I would want from DOOM Retro is Heretic, Hexen, and Strife support, although it will play Chex Quest, HacX, and FreeDOOM.

REKKR is great, but a bit tough and I'm playing on Normal. Probably just not good enough + staying awake for 24+ hours might have its tall.
However, GZDoom really just feels janky. Considering to try switching it for some other source port and play Sunken Land that way.

>>8474224
Nah, I remember Hexen even better than Heretic. To the point that I remembered all the default Demos and all levels up until Shadow Wood.

>>8474203
Sounds like Black Tower from Master Levels but if it Heretic.

>>8474293
>Chaos Engine
Never played it, but it took me a few years to find Descent.
Searching for "old spaceship game" was my needle in the haystack.

>>8474431
Unironically the closest description. It fits really well.

My most vivid memories of playing custom maps as a child was some random Duke 3D map where I think mapper forgot to make water surface passable (Is this how water in Build works?) or something. So I would fall off the cliff and die hitting water, or I get teleported underwater and drown, unable to resurface.

>>8474346
Thanks. I think i'll look into it.

>>8473613
Not sure if related but I seriously have to ask at this point:
What can you do to consistently not get hit by vores that doesn't involve keeping them out of LOS? I thought this area would be great against them but their balls follow me near perfectly.

>>8474519
in close quarters best defense is offense, often you can fire all 4 nades before the first voreball, same with LG.
on nightmare you actually can't outrun them without bhopping. on hard you need to get some distance and make a sharp turn, which is fairly hard in that room. also you can shake the balls off on nearby enemies, fiends especially.

>>8474346
You can make gzdoom look 100% retro nowadays. Software render + movement interpolation off + 320x200 res. Only thing where gzdoom is not 100% accurate is damage rng and demo compatility, but looks themselves can be 100% vanilla.

Doom map, but it's covered in teleport lines so if you step back, you telefrag yourself.

>>8474695
Its the reason I prefer the offshoots like LZDoom. Better defaults and nearly same compatibility. If gzdoom just had more vanilla looking defaults the bitching would subside substantially.

>>8474706
TNT Map30?

>>8474753
No, that was a puzzle. I'm talking a special mechanic where you can't back out of the fights.

>>8474759
it's called a door

>>8474891
Doors are lame.

>>8474706
Ah Soviet Red Army Doom

>>8474203
Now you have to recreate the level to find closure.

>>8474706
made me think of this. the horror, the horror...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQYO4lkqKDI

>just felt an earthquake
what are some good quake mods to play before i die?

>>8472340
mechadon blog post about supplice
https://mekworx.the-powerhouse.net/2021/12/31/this-is-a-post-about-supplice/
e2m1 remake
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126594-e2m1-deimos-anomaly-remake/

>>8474998
>he doesn't v_gunkick 0 irl

>>8474895
doors are portals

>Pirate Doom's weapons are from Outlaws
>>They weren't drawn by an amateur modder
they get the job done but lmao

>>8473539
yes, also nightmare is just copper's nightmare, hard + 50 hp

>return of the triad will never be finished
>hedon will always be a fetish game
>rekkr's bow will always suck
>scumhead will never make a hard game with good level design that lasts longer than 4 hours
>selaco will never release
>supplice's mc will always be voiced by a rubber chicken
>sharpshooter 3d will never be sold again
tc bros... we can't stop losing........

>>8475257
>>hedon will always be a fetish game
are there others?
clown girl tc when?

>>8475263
Citadel

>>8475257
Golden Souls

>>8475257
Ashes kicks ass.

>>8475257
Hey, what happenedto Sharpshooter 3D?

I fucking can't believe that I beat this on my first day running for an exit demo. Maelstrom and Dying on Cue filtered the absolute hell out of me and I was expecting this level to do the same thing.
What a strong way to start the year. I'm so relieved and happy.

>>8475282
>uses doom enemies
>tc

>>8475257
Heodn futa shit does not even phase if the game had at least decent art for the disgusting orcs.

The art style is atrocious, its fantasy at its most trash state.

>>8472789
>zoomers slaughter
nice

>>8475330
Beggars can't be choosers.

>>8474423
Should run fine in most ports, but it might not play the new music properly. Depends on if the port read E4MX music lumps.

Ha ha time for some e-celeb shit. Decino picking up wads to play today. 3 Ad Mortem and 1 HHFM submission.

>>8475376
Which HFFM submission?

>>8475384
Map 15. Admittedly, I never made this far into it.

>>8475394
I was thinking of submitting mine but then I kinda lost interest. Would have been map 7 Full Thrust.

>>8475263
I don't have a clown girl fetish, because I'm not a fucking weirdo, but I would play that tc.
Throwing pies at enemies, comical "bang" guns, acid flowers... Sounds like a fun time.

>>8474708
I use GZDoom because it runs better than LZ on new(ish) computer. Also LZDoom has not yet mbf21 compability.

>>8472543
just gonna have to grit your teeth and put up with orc wankery in hedon dude. other than that, IDK.

>>8475154
Its supposed to be comic book style, like the cutscenes. Doesnt really fit with the gritty environment textures though.

>>8475154
Outlaws, ost is kino of the highest order

What the shit happened to the mouse sensitivity in eduke? Before, I found it perfect without ever needing to adjust it, but then some months ago, the new versions just go and cripple it. No matter how much I try adjusting the settings, the sensitivity never feels the same as it did before. And the new nblood versions, being built off those obviously, get hit too. And with the new update to Ion Fury, it got this shit too.

Goddammit, I can't keep using the same old builds forever. I need to figure out how to get the sensitivity to feel exactly the same as it did before this mess happened. Any ideas?

>>8472338
>SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
>(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
where is blood

>>8475775
Nobody's made one yet, but anyone is free to do so and have it added to the OP.

>>8475025
Jimmy and Xaser mapping for Supplice, so probably not Epoch and Earthless this year. Fugg. Was really waiting for those two wads.

Does Doomguy shave? Can he even shave?

>>8475775
It is in your veins and ciculatory system.

>>8475740
Heck ya pardner, listen to this:
>>https://files.catbox.moe/5ksmgu.ogg

>>8472789
>90's stuff mean max beat mode

>>8475892
what does he eat?

>>8475897
and my balls pump the blood

>>8475910
Fireblu.

>>8473116
>>8473457
Nice to see people playing the mod. I'll probably watch his Twitch replays and compile a per-map list of feedback.
>the quaddicted page is up after all
Welp, guess that's just their policy with any public release. I'm definitely going to try to make a couple more maps for the update, and do another pass on Secret and Shub's Wager.
No sense in just putting out a few fixes and HUD tweaks by themselves.

Was Violent Rumble's fgd ever updated for the final release? I noticed in Under Construction there's a monster_army with a style of 5 for the heavy nailgun, but the fgd only has styles up to 4 for the regular nailgun.

>>8476084
Nvm fixed it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6AxVkPMwrg
Why?

>>8476124
Why not? HL2 beta looks cool.

>>8475257
>>return of the triad will never be finished
It's not?

>>8476124
Doom modding isn't about "why." It's about "Why not?" "Why" are so many of our Doom mods derivative of other works? Why not marry original Doom mods if you love OC so much? In fact, why not mod a new Japanese image board Doom mod for you to post on that won't clean up your posts when you say dumb things, because YOU ARE BANNED! (Not you, anon. You're doing fine.) Yes, YOU. Hard drive. Your reaction images. E-celeb posts. Closed tab. Unopened browser. Turned off PC. Goodbye.

>>supplice's mc will always be voiced by a rubber chicken
That's fixed as easily as copy-pasting in Slade. At most you'll need to convert your preferred pain sounds to .ogg.

>>8473457
I don't know why UC had a different skybox or why the .wav in beho failed to load, I'm assuming it's protocol issues. The underwater distortion tells me he was playing in vkQuake, which might've been the issue since I tested in QSS. Also he got annoyed with both maps, specifically the ammo shortage, which is very understandable.

>>8476182
No we need more bland boring brunettes. For some reason.

>>8476187
I'd imagine being able to easily port over any player skin I'd want as well, though I doubt it matters.

>>8474038
probably the best RTCW mission pack

About to play Halo 1 for the first time.

>>8476124
Quick survey, do Anons love or hate Doom mods that’s basically ‘random different game but in Doom’?

>>8476291
It depends on how much effort is put forth. If it's just vanilla reskins of everything, wasted potential but it also means Doom's gameplay is untouched.
I take issue with half assed attempts more than anything.

>>8473338
>4*2chan
how do they manage being angrier than here?

>>8476291
Depends. Helps a lot to see how much the engine can be pushed, and it's cool. But if it's half assed then no.

>>8476291
It's a nice way to give a second chance to games that suffer technical issues, poor map design, or bad enemy rosters. Return of the Triad is arguably the best ROTT experience and Painslayer is the best Painkiller experience outright. Seems weird to me when people do it with games from other genres that Doom is utterly unsuited for, though.

>>8473325
Because what the fuck do the other chans have to offer for Doom discussion? They're probably all a bunch of casuals who only play BD and the nuDoom games.

>>8473338
Perfect post.

https://youtu.be/vyQDjNCoBO0

>>8476291
it can be good,as long as they don't shill it as a replacement for old doom.

>>8474204
For mods and modern features, GzDoom. The new versions have a bunch of options for better performance with low end machines, if that's something you're concerned with.

If you only wanna play straigbt Doom, I would suggest Crispy Doom and DSDA.

>>8474312
>Eternity
LMAO nobody makes content for that.

>>8476359
https://8chàn.moe/v/res/484680.html

>>8476291
GZDoom at this point is more or less its own engine so the 'but in Doom' moniker doesn't really mean much to me. If they can make something cool in it though that's fine.

>>8474269
Well, how about a spray feature which rather than pasting a stored image, instead paints one with little 1x1 squares corresponding to a value you feed it.

The player would have to have the image converted to a value the script could read, and then setting up a bind which provides that value.
Obviously everyone would have to have that .pk3 loaded, and there would have to be some sort of defined limit in size and current sprays so that nobody comes and mwee.png's your game.
64x64 in max size perhaps.

>>8476291
Im a brutal doom chad

>>8476416
>mostly talk about much later FPS such as the recent Wolfenstein games and 'boomer shooters'
>pretty limited talk about Doom and Doom .wads/mods
>no talk about making your own stuff, for Doom or other games
>"I sure hope S'Arais doesn't show up." implying he usually does
>poster IDs
>no timestamps on posts (telling me nothing of post rates), can't skip via replies, no dark theme (or any themes), maybe because I'm currently on mobile but 4chan at least let you switch off the mobile extension
I feel like I bought a hotdog at an inflated price from a street vendor and it was cold, because he didn't feel like keeping the heat on.

>>8476508
seething cuckchanner

>>8476515
bold accusation for someone who came here begging for users on their shitty offshoot chan
go the fuck back

>>8476508
>Any recommendations for good recently released wads, total conversions, mappacks, gameplay wads, anything?

>one of the responses is just to tell to check the cacowards
>the other posts don't even give him recs on new shit


wew, these guys don't even know all the good shit that has been released recently

>>8476124
Cool. Wish there was gameplay though.

>>8476515
Make a better offer. /vr/ has a better /doom/ and generally better FPS discussion overall.
I know I'm looking at a sample size of one, here, but that thread was dry as hell.

>>8476416
its like the retro fps threads on normal /v/,except worse,and the ones on /v/ already aren't great (the only thing i like is that some newer fps games i like are more welcome,but there are better places to do that too)

>>8472543
>>8475586
GMOTA seems close enough.

>3 playable characters (4 in next update)
>one with heavy melee focus buts gets some range options later
>one with good mix of melee/range, is speedy
>one with heavy range focus with some melee options

Doomguy's rocket altfire is literally a weaker Wraithverge too.

>>8472340
>Alien Vendetta MIDI pack announced
I like that Lee Jackson straight up made a sequel to a ROTT midi for this

>>8476592
I don't think GMOTA is a fair comparison to Hexen. Hexen's combat has a different pace compared to GMOTA's
That and I think that other Anon was also wanting Hexen's map layout and pacing too.

8CH BAD

>>8476616
8ch still exists?

>tfw your board is so dead you get bored enough to go to the superior one to shit on their lawn as some sort of consolation
>>8476576
There's a few decent guys over there that I hope find their way over here. The other 90% of posters produce a consistent stream of raw sewage.

/vr/ bros...
https://zzzchan.xyz/v/thread/88522.html#88522

doom!

>>8476291
In extreme cases, GZDoom stuff can be a bit too far removed from Doom to really have that "but in doom" feel anymore, IMO. Like how no one would really call a UE4 game "but in unreal (the game)"

>>8476291
It all comes down to execution, but usually, creative liberties need to be taken with the source material for it to translate well into doom. If no liberties are taken, it usually ends up terribly. I'll cite that embarrassing touhou mod as a case of not enough creative liberties being taken for the mod to work.

>>8473797
didn't you hear about it?
they are changing the engine to unreal 1

>>8472789
vile uses cock
happy forces gud
dark bad
play fun wads
easy 90s
nice fast enemies
bullshit dospack managing

>>8476291
I love the variety, ripoffs or not. I could play Doom mods forever but I'm getting older and realizing playing mindlessly won't make me money or make maps.

>chocolate doom
>Jun 25, 2020
it's over

>>8475358
I'll think about it then. Might just get over it and keep playing as is.

>>8476717
It's still being worked on, just check the nightly builds.

>>8476717
Unless an undocumented vanilla bug/limit gets discovered, or it turns out chocolate doom isn't correctly reproducing certain vanilla bugs/lmits, there isnt really much of anything for chocolate doom to have a full update for.

>>8472340
Doom 2 from memory release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126634-doom-2-the-way-we-remember-it-release-v1/

how do I play Mars 3D without this error? it happens both with and without the iso mounted (I know about the new port but it feels off)

ok I effectively UNBLOATED and UNFUCKED Led's Generic Weapons Mod.
Pistol, Assault Rifle and Minigun all use the same shared bullets as ammo.
also made that you start with both Pistol and Assault Rifle as it makes sense to be the default basic loadout of a marine, primary weapon and sidearm.
making the Zombieman drop the Assault Rifle was dumb anyway first of all because defining a new enemy type would have given problems with monster bestiary mods and also made no sense anyway because in 99% of wads right in the beginning or somewhere in the first level there is a zombieman that would drop a rifle anyway so no point imho might as well just have both as your starting loadout and let the zombieman just drop clips.
the minigun you get it as pickup or as drop from chaingunners.
also deliberately shamelessly stole the mugshot from Trailblazer and put it in there and stole the additional crosshairs from Brutal Doom v21 and put those in there as well.
made this for my personal use but if anybody wants it I can share.

>>8476717
The only thing Chocolate Doom actually has to do at this point is to remain functional on current machines, so until there's problems with running it on like, Windows 12 or something, I can't think of any reason to keep updating it. It replicates original .exe functionality 1 to 1, like intended, so I'd rather he work on other stuff.

>>8477007
If you start with a rifle and it uses the same ammo as the pistol, then what purpose does the pistol actually serve? I'm unfamiliar with this mod.

>>8474519
which map is this? seems fun

>>8476291
Depends on game. If it feels like Doom wad with Doom gameplay, but with tons of extra stuff not possible in vanilla, then it's cool. For example I love Supplice and Age Of Hell. REKKR too even as it is vanilla.

>>8476408
Eternity just got it's first high quality level pack last year. Give it time. Though people might be more interested of making mbf21 content now.

>>8476710
I don't basically play anything else anymore than Doom or Quake maps/mods/wads or games made with their engines.

>>8477170
perhaps it's because its UV equivalent is actually UV-fast, but to me supplice is too intent on murdering your ass to feel like doom
you have to play carefully and semi-tactically like blood on higher difficulties, because a group of zombiemen or an unchecked chaingunner can melt you in half a second, and the other monsters have really aggressive behaviors that make them lots harder to deal with than normal doom enemies. if it had jumping and crouching, there'd be no resemblance to doom at all.
rekkr on the other hand through and through feels like doom gameplay, just from an alternate universe

>>8477172
Eternity has been around almost as long as ZDoom and its family of ports, but people have just made way more stuff for Z, not just gameplay mods but even mapsets, some which are actually great.
I'm glad Heartland is good, but it'll probably take more than that for people to pick it up. I remember people complained about Eternity's options menus being doody when they were playing Heartland, and that's something I think the engine could improve on.

For MBF21, I think that, along with UMAPINFO and DecoHack for writing quick and easy basic stuff, is gonna take away attention from Eternity, but it's almost certainly taking attention from GzDoom mapping as well, because that's a whole pile of useful and practical features which have inexplicably been relegated to advanced ports only until VERY recently.
If you wanted to define your own episodes for a Boom style mapset in as late as 2019 (22 years after the source code release of Doom), or just add a basic decorative actor like a tree or ceiling lamp without sacrificing something that already existed, you plain had to go fuck yourself, because MBF and PrBoom+ had ZERO provisions for that.

>>8477182
>but to me supplice is too intent on murdering your ass to feel like doom
Very odd what you associate ‘Doom’ with, even though I got what you were saying about Rekkr.

>>8477172
its good but runs horribly in some open areas,and mouse movement feels like crap.

>>8477206
i associate doom with simple, readable, easy to bait out and easy to dodge single projectile throwing enemies
the fundamental gameplay is a breeze, it's the map design that can make it difficult
supplice's fundamental gameplay is a lot harder, so instead of designing the maps to screw you over, they have to arrange the encounters to accomodate those stronger enemies so it isn't unbearable
it's a bit of an inversion, and i like it, but i never felt like i was playing doom

>>8477231
That’s much more agreeable considering Doom is filled with enemies and traps intent on murdering you. Regarding Supplice, it plays how I’d want and expected a modded Doom to perform.

>>8475257
>pic
Is that some custom map for HACX? Looks gorgeous.

>>8473797
I am not. Ion Fury was enough. What else can they do?

(im >>8472468)
although less people than i had hoped responded to my fov poll,the results are actually really,cool.
i expected there being people that liked high fovs,but i also expected very low fovs to also be preferred due to alot of older games having lower fovs,but "Whatever is default" seems common enough to assume that people with low fovs just don't care to change it,which i expected to be the console fren answer.

>>8477170
I'm pretty sure he means existing IP. So like Quake in doom, or Doom Eternal in Doom.

>>8476892
Let's hope this one actually got tested in a proper source port this time. I also hope people didn't throw in random cyberdemons that obviously weren't in the original maps as a "joke".

>>8477402
So far I made it to MAP10 on complevel 2 and there were anomalies like that.

>>8477404
Do the maps seem like genuine recreations from memory, or is it as much of a disaster at the first one?

>>8477408
Much more genuine.

>>8477402
>I also hope people didn't throw in random cyberdemons that obviously weren't in the original maps as a "joke".
I dunno, I actually think curveballs like that make for a more interesting "from memory" map than the ones that are virtually identical to the original with very minor differences.

>>8477413
It goes against the spirit of the project. I seriously doubt anyone remembers the Episode 2 boss appearing in the middle of E1.

>>8477390
i use 106 horizontal fov most of the time because it's tf2's fov on 16:9 displays
good visual range without making targets too tiny
120-130 is fine for games where you bunnyhop extremely fast or there's huge open areas
anything below 90 is unplayable

Doom tech demo in roblox

>>8477413
Because a curveball like that doesn't really work for a project like this unless the mapper experienced some recent head trauma.

>>8477413
I do think it's hilarious to have a CBM schizo map in the middle of the relatively normal set.

Auger;zenith at the bottom of runners up, Ad Mortem not even mentioned. What is this bullshit?
Fuck this, Im gonna play Violent Rumble, that levelpack needs recognition too

>>8477496
>Ad Mortem not even mention
Well it prolly shouldn't be.
Auger Zenith is kinda the only release that interested me last year though.
Lullaby looked nice, but it ended up being a mess imo.

>>8477416
>It goes against the spirit of the project.
That's true, and I certainly would still take points off for it despit me finding it interesting, as its intentionally adding something that wasnt in the original. But my point is that the maps that are super accurate to the original with only small deviations that would require a direct comparison to see them end up being the least interesting to play. Sure, the mapper has proven they have a very good memory (unless they outright looked at the original for reference while making the "from memory" map, which also goes against the spirit), but why should I play their recreation instead of the original if its essentially the same thing?
The most interesting "from memory" maps for me the ones that show a clear display of genuine misremembering of major sections, like where rooms are located in the layout, or their overall design.

Do you ever feel overwhelmed by the sheer quantity of quality WADs that you can't reasonably get around to playing in a human lifespan?

>>8477528
No.

>>8477496
While Ad Mortem is fun, it's nowhere near even runner up quality. There's been many dozens of community projects this year: dbps, dbk's, wadazine's and all those dw ones that didn't even get mentioned. What makes Ad Mortem so special, that it goes above those? It's not like it even tried to be cacoward material. Amateurish maps weren't polished causing uneven quality, and there's no gzdoom support even though it would be possible with little tweaking.

As for Auger Zenith, it did get silver cacoward, which is a lot considering the quantiny of quality projects. Even ones on 21 for 2021 are nowhere near bad. Their quality is well above of some actual cacoward winners of 2004-2015. Also their position on page doesn't reflect their position on top list (all silver cacowards aka runner-ups are equal with each other, as are the golden with each other) .

As for Violent Rumble, it's been quite loved on Quake Community. It has half of consists of quite mediocre and outright bad maps, but the great ones outweight the shit ones. Coffee Achiever's maps are better than many AD maps, and that's quite an achievement.

>>8477184
Eternity got it's new weapon support on edf at last year. Eternity wasn't used before, because there hasn't been real competition between ports.

>>8477528
This the fact that makes Doom feel more like hobby than a single game. But yeah, make a list about wads that you really want to play and go with it.

>>8477616
I try to do that, but then it's not long before something cool releases or I become aware of something cool I missed and I add that to the list, it's neverending
It's cool, but it's also despair

>>8477620
People run into this bad habit with things that actually cost money, so at least you’re managing free content while adjusting to it.

>>8477528
Imagine getting brain-in-a-jar technology so we become technically immortal and can just play Doom forever

>>8476780
>>8477065
how about compatibilty with Doom v1.2 and older?

>>8477496
Ad Mortem's completeness status is very uncertain.

>>8477528
What I'm doing is that I'm UV Pistol Start Maxing at least two of the hardest mega wads while cheating the rest if needed. It's basically so I don't feel guilty for getting stuck due to my retardation. I could restart the level, I have the proof that I could beat it legit if I wanted to, but I'm not going to.

>>8477762
Sunlust is not among the hardest mega wads btw, that's considered entry level to the really hard stuff

>>8476641
there he is

>>8473457
>insists on fighting the shambler at the start of Secret
>complains about it

New years eve costume !
Maranax Pallex to all !

>>8477828
Modern arts and fear books to you too, anon

>>8477528
it's amazing. my "absolute must play, is amazing" list just keeps getting longer despite steadily chewing on it. so excited about everything going on, both new and old people getting involved.

>>8477168

>>8475376
Darn, none of ours got in.

Anyone?>>8472502

>>8477778
>DOOD
>THE ULLU EHT

My REKKR marathon is finished.
I would need to play it again more slowly on Wrecker as I just pretty much rushed it on Brawler/Fighter in order to actually appreciate each map more properly. It was still occasionally tough actually and GZDoom just kept feeling odd, but that's probably just me being a weird dork. Really liked last two maps of Sunken Land.
Two words about the ending: wholesome cheese. It's hilarious and sweet just in the right way. As an anon that really got fed up with "le theories" and other trash lore nonsense, I think enjoyed just how simply and straightforward it was.
I love Hexen, but that E1M5 puzzle really was kind of annoying since I managed to forgot how to beat it after watching Dwars' playthrough relatively recently. :P

>>8477981
...right. Was my intermission screen broken this entire time? Or it supposed to be pitch black background?

>>8475376
>Decino
I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE IT, I watched some random autismo yesterday play "Cleansing of Hell" and it's an abysmal piece of shit and it will get tens of thousand of views. Plus all these already popular wads getting into the list, "prefers user submissions" my FUCKING ass.

>>8477885
He called Hard Fast good, at least.

>>8478114
what? When?

>>8478118
When scrolling down the list of maps.

>>8478096
decino is a blessing to the doom community; high quality play throughs of many interesting maps, supports the community, brings in TONS of new blood.

in this particular case, what did you expect from him? he documented and made public the entire approach. if you don't like it, you had many opportunities to suggest changes, and can still do so for the next time.

it's not like it was swung in his preferences' favor. after all, there are multiple alien vendetta submissions despite his stated dislike.

>>8478131
I really wish there'd be more content creators making reviews of new wads - up to rummaging through newstuff on idgames regularly. How many "I also played Alien Vendetta/Eternal Doom/Plutonia 2/Something" can we possibly need?

My project was lucky to at least make it into honorable cacoward mentions, so I guess there'll be some recognition.

>>8478131
>mfw decino quietly yells nO nOH nOHHHH during his outtake videos

>>8477769
I can only climb upwards anon. Tell me of the hard wads so that I can beat them. This shit is a high that I can't get enough of and I need more of it.

>>8478184
The absolute hardest WAD I know of is Dimensions (it's become a bit of a meme for streamers to stream Dimensions MAP03 largely because of this)

There's many others such as No Chance, Flotsam, Magnolia, Sunder, Abandon, Italo Doom, Haste, Fractured Worlds, Entropy, Swim With The Whales, Stardate 20X6 & 20X7. I'm sure I'm missing a lot

>>8478184
>>8478213
i'll also chime in there are many things you can do to further tweak how challenging a wad is; e.g., playing saveless, or even d2all.

personally, the more i've played, i also have fun with things like tysoning certain maps as much as possible, or pacifisting the uv max as much as possible. these are things that make doom very different from other shooters.

there's so much depth in doom not just in terms of wads, but even how you approach them yourself. many wads are fun on HMP and lower difficulty. anon above mentioned dimensions; recently, zzul (dimensions creator) was playing dimensions on stream on HMP, and it was really great; most people hadn't seen it before and he was explaining how HMP is a really fun time for him and he wished more people tried it. sometimes i casual play maps on HMP and it's indeed fun, even maps that i also play uv.

somehow it's 2022 and doom is old and really healthy

>>8478149
Do you want to... kiss Decino, Anon?

>>8476641
haha look at him go

>>8478242
Zzul is a bit of a weirdo himself. I like his creations but really don't like him personally, he's a bit of a sperg that went on a bridge burning crusade. But hey, death of the author and all that.

>>8478309
I laughed.

>>8478309
>are those like new source ports or something
kek

>>8478213
I am very aware of all of those maps, but my tendency is going for 32 level wads. The Stardates are certainly something I'm going to chase at some point, but even then both of them are like 22 maps together. Which I'm fine with, but a full 32 set is very alluring to me.
>>8478242
I'll certainly try out different methods aside from UV Maxes. I did build a liking to UV-Fast the few Tyson orientated maps I've played and would love to do more of that stuff for a break up to the real shit.

Perdition's Gate is not on Tom Mustaine website anymore.
Bros..

>>8477826
do you plan on adding another batch of maps?

>>8477826
if you watch the second youtube video he posted, he's extremely positive

nice work <3

>>8478380
I don't know where this sudden influx of SJ x Doom content came from (SMT V?) but I really appreciate it.

>>8478380
>>8478385
Yeah, i'm really loving it too.

I've challenged myself to develop a quakeinjector clone a few months ago, but for doom and from idgames ftp.
I know portadoom exists, but not for my platform, so not relying on windows-only libraries was a key point.

Do you use anything for managing wads? I'm thinking about GPL'ing it, but I have no idea about what other people use.
Right now it pulls the filelist from the idgames ftp and let's you pick a doom engine to download and run that on, want to do something about showing the rating of each WAD

>>8478385
I got smt sj r for christmas so I decided to make funny little drawings of them.

>>8478372
Yeah I figure I might as well since Quaddicted picked up the initial release before I could get an update out. I want to make at least two maps myself, but anyone else is welcome to submit.
Family is finally out of town so I can get back to really working on stuff.

>>8478384
>if you watch the second youtube video he posted, he's extremely positive
I think that's mostly directed to RASTR and NBABS. Can't say I blame him though - I'm pretty jealous of those maps.

Here's the situation: you're having a great Doom dream, vivid and surreal, blasting away spooky skellies and floaty meat balls with the nimbleness of a professional ice skater, when suddenly you stumble into a locked slaughtermap filled with ONE monster from pic rel who terrifies you to your core and wakes you in a cold sweat. Which monster is it, and what does it do to be so terrifying?

>>8478483
Probably the evil eye lookalike. That thing frightened me when I played Doom and having it suddenly become an actual enemy would make me piss my bed.

>TrenchBroom
>Feb 13, 2021
it's over

>>8478513
>gmota
>Dec 04, 2019
its over

>Ultimate Doom
>Apr 30, 1995
it's over

>Wolf3D
>May 5, 1992
It's over.

SNS when?

>>8478534
Isn't it cancelled this week?

>>8478517
Listen here, you little shit.

>>8478483
Third row, fourth guy has something very nightmare-like to it I can't really explain
Fourth row, rightmost guy I could see gliding around very fast in an unnatural way

Also I'm reminded of a post from years ago, where someone had a fever dream where he was stuck in an endless river of cyberdemons.

>>8478543
I thought that was just for Christmas. We did FNF this week.

>>8478543
It appears punchman is AWOL for today. I'm not sure about orangebomb.
On the subject, I'm working on setting up a VPS to automate hosting so the server will be up year long and switch wads automatically. I'll keep you all posted.

>>8478534
>>8478543
>>8478556
it's not supposed to be cancelled today but punch disappeared into the shadow zone for whatever reason

>>8478483
Fifth row third column = Hell Knight devouring his son

I just remembered i had a dream that was like this:
>Map is Dead Simple but with bright blue textures
>It plays like the original but after you kill the Arachnotrons, walls lower to reveal a giant Revenant chasing the player
>The big skelly isn't just a stretched up Revenant, his sprites are detailed and well drawn
>Find a room with some invulsphere and just shoot plasma at him in some balcony like area, until he explodes
>Go to a portal that just opened
>Another copy of Dead Simple but it's brown and orange, as if it was using Quake textures
>There's a bunch of lost souls with different colors
>They try to push me from hitting the switch but i still do it, even with them trying to drag me from it
>>8478483
Where does this image comes from?
It's amazing how some of them look like they could be actual enemies.

>>8478572
>Where does this image comes from?
>It's amazing how some of them look like they could be actual enemies.
Messing around with some neural networks, just plugged in a single frame from every Doom 2 enemy + the eye.

>>8478586
Got a link to that? Would love to experiment with other FPS rosters

>>8478589
https://colab.research.google.com/drive/15vFLeepkSTr1qd4xs31g9kMEiwkWP0sh
I've tried Marathon 1 already, didn't work as well aside from a handful, enemies too blocky and abstract I think.

>>8478483
I had about 2 nightmares about Doom and 1 about Duke Nukem, when I was a kid. They all involved hiding away from demons and aliens irl. I've had few Doom dreams as an adult, but they've all been good dreams. Usually I'm playing some really fucking good wad, but then I wake up and get disappointed that the wad didn't exist at all.

>>8478483
One time I had a dream where everything around me had turned into macaroni and cheese and revenants were closing in on my location.
I think I punched one of them boners in the face, but it was so long ago, I can't remember the details.

The guy who made Serious Sam TFE ray traced is doing Half-Life ray traced
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsteDE8h6jc

>>8478681
Now I am wondering what DUKE3D, Blood, Shadow Warrior, and Redneck Rampage would look like in a Ray-Traced state.

>>8478691
>>8478681
>>8472340 (replying to newspost just in case)
I really would love to see Quake 1 raytraced. I honestly think it'd look prettier (in terms of its gloominess/general mood being enhanced) than Quake 2

>>8478691
https://reindernijhoff.net/2019/03/wolfenstein-raytracing-on-using-webgl1/
Someone made a navigable webGL path traced level with wolfenstein wall textures. No sprites or actual gameplay but I guess it gives a good idea how doom or other similar games would look like if they were ray traced

>>8478483
most of those just look like an AI did it

>>8478293
Are you simply referring to him having vague anti-trans opinions on that one DW thread?

>>8478681
Based

https://twitter.com/PraiseAltman111/status/1477784703239442433

A Spec Ops The Line voice pack for Doom? Not sure what to make of this.

>>8477916
It comes with an install exe that's supposed to do it automatically. If you want to do it manually it's just "deusf -merge pg-raw.wad"

>Check out Brutal Doom Platinum
>it's a massive overhaul in terms of spritework
>items have different skins and so does marine companions
Sounds nice but then:
>some marines AI is braindead
>random weapons spawning in the maps
>forced sprint mechanic that supposed to make you go with regular speed

You had one fucking job.The whole thing is a mashup of an another modder addons.
They didn't like the shitty sprint and asked this mod author to remove it but didn't.
In response they've made an addon that deletes that feature,which is pretty based.

I'm thinking about hiring a level designer for my retro turd. If you were going to do paid level design, how much would you charge?

>>8478937
How many fucking Brutal Doom forks are out there? It's a fucking subgenre at this point

>>8478904
i did that before and couldn't merge properly

NOOOOOOOOOOO
https://mustaine.com/about/video-game-work/perditions-gate/

>>8479021
More like cumstaine.com lol

>>8479032
Is this subtle romeroposting

>>8478483
the werewolfs, the cyberarchvile and the animatronic are good tho

hey /vr/os what you think of Ion Fury, is it good or bad?

>>8479119
Ion know...

>>8479119
eduke32 good

>>8479119
Ion Fury kicks ass. If you liked BUILD games and/or Doom its for you. Also there's decent jokes and references around every corner. I didn't mind the main character not being a bullish tattooed dyke.

>>8477985
It's supposed to be black.

>>8479119
It's okay. Dunno if it's because of my rose-tinted glasses but it doesn't feel as fun as Duke.

>>8479119
Wish it didn't do the half-life transitions

>>8479119
bad guns bad enemies good music good graphics

>>8479119
Fun, next to Overload it may be my favorite of these new-but-old shooters.
>>8478961
I don't know how it is now, but I was really surprised when I checked into the Doom moddb to find out how many alterations and "skins" people were making for BD exclusively.

>>8479119
>good references everywhere
>build to the bone
>great weapons
but
>less than impressive roster (its not bad,just less than it should be)
>the game drags on way too long to the point you need a break.

>>8476291
They should just take the time to learn an engine thats actually optimized and intended for game development.

>>8479348
Then it wouldn't be "X in doom" anymore, would it?

>>8478681
>>8478681
What's the point in this besides "because I can" & jerking off to "cool graphics"? It's just more of a Q2RTX and looks accordingly.
>>8479119
It's awesome.
>>8479134
Alright then, good. Just thought there supposed to be something throughout the game, thinking that something went wrong with GZDoom.

>>8478483
Some of these are awesome, now I wish they actually were enemies
Bottom row #2 is trippy, looks like multiple archviles connected together as some sort of body horror monstrosity

where do the demons go when they die

>>8479573
To the Hazbin Hotel.

chexquest keeps crashing in DSDA-doom
idk how id fix it,the crash said to use comp-level 21,but it still crashes.

Why the fuck can't I find a black doom guy?

>>8479706
As a sprite or what?

>>8479706
blends in with the background, try another sector light mode

>>8479708
Yeah as a playable character on my screen.

>>8479706
rowdy rudy

>>8479119
hitscanners react too slowly and deal too little damage and miss too much and account for 85% of all enemies
zero tension to combat, just headshot everything with the shotgun/revolver alt-fire/smgs and win

>>8479508
>What's the point in this besides "because I can" & jerking off to "cool graphics"? It's just more of a Q2RTX and looks accordingly.
How so? It actually works with HL from what I see.

>>8479021
Huh, did he take down the stuff he wrote about the development as well? The .wad is easy to find, however.

>>8479706
Have you considered making your own skin? It's actually not that hard. Doing the arms for the weapon sprites would be a bit more work but it would still not be that bad.

>>8478483
Another doomguy. And just like in waking world, his ssg is faster than mine.

Just realizing that with Vaeros MIA so long, all those Ad Mortem updates are going to be lost

>>8476892
Love how they even did the music from memory too.

Anyone got or know where I can get advice for xmapedit/blood/build engine single player map design/philosophy, enemy/ammo placement, etc?

>>8473764
I know that Whitemare 2 has them. You can try opening up the WAD for with Slade to see how they did it.

Big gay sex balls.

>>8480395
>what used to be "moments before disaster"

>>8478586
Looks great.
Neural monsters pack when?

>>8479309
Funny enough,some of them are compatible with vanilla too. So I don't see the point of putting all of them there

>>8480437
what would the gameplay even be like?

>>8480085
>are going to be
More like "got".
If Vaeros reports back in here make sure to throw it all at him.

>>8480395
>>8480424
I never really paid attention about it until now, but… is that how Imps canonically looks like??

>>8480505
it's just a random generic demon

>>8480505
>>8480520
They seem like a cross between imps and barons

>>8474217
Garbage sourceport. PrB+ combined with ZDL is the best way to play if you want a usefully authentic experience.
Or just stop being a fag and use GZDoom.

9 maps deep and besides some weirdness on map06 it's been holding up. I think the last time I seriously dug into this was a few years after it was first out. I miss a few of the select tracks but the new music has been great for the most part.
>>8474681
>normally can't outrun vore projectiles on nightmare
Good post, and this in particular is very useful and comforting info.

>>8480085
Just dig it up in the archive. Dude will show eventually.

does anyone know if the unity doom ports remove any addons?

>>8480904
What?

>>8479119
Meh.

Looks pretty but that's it.

>DOOM & Hell of Earth's Unity re-releases were published a year after series' 25th anniversary.
>2021 was 25th anniversary of Quake and in August they Enhanced re-release was released during QuakeCon.
>This year is 30th anniversary of Wolfenstein 3D.
I feel like we're about to get "Unity port" of Wolf3D from Nerve Software. Would've been nice if Return to Castle Wolfenstein got some love too. What do you think? What mods could even end up for their Add-on thing?

>>8472340
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126633
Shades of Azure - 12 short, blue maps [Boom/cl9]

>>8480950
wolf 3d and even rtcw have history of rare ports with obscure/additional content
same for quake 2 and 3
we got quake 64 as an addon for the quake remaster too, so i wonder how far they can go with that road
but there's no modern release of ps1 doom like there's of doom 64

>>8478483
The last one on the right, second row from top, is giving me the heebie-jeebies with its little red dot eye.

>>8478586
Very interesting image there. What would Islam Doom's and Zoroastrian Doom's final Bosses look like?

>>8478483
>*CLICK* went Doom.txt

>doom the way 3DRealms did

>>8480996
>TFW no DUKE3D the way 3DRealms did nor BLOOD the way Monolith did it

>>8476291
I want to do a "Doom the way Parallax did it". Esentially make some changes that bring Doom closer in feel to Descent.
>Levels should all be techbase/ space themed.
>Key order should always be Blue>Yellow>Red, unless not all 3 keys are used. Exit should always be blocked by a red door.
>Revenants fire homing rockets but barely move
>Mancubi do not fire in volleys anymore but they also fire two rockets
>Chaingunners move at sonic speeds, have no fire-up animation and fire almost instantly
>Spectre chaingunners
>Arachotrons fire double projectiles and also move a lot faster
>Imps fire in bursts
>plasma fires double projectiles
>chaingun fires a lot faster
>Palette changes/ reskins according to the Descent equivalent (purple BFG, green plasma)
Maybe some other changes.

the honey mod that comes with the steam quake port doesn't have a nightmare difficulty, right?

>>8481065
I couldn't find one so I set it through the console.

Installed the most recent version of GZDoom and tried Vulkan and it runs worse than OpenGL. Stuttering like crazy. Wtf is going on?

AAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>8481124
Whatever it is just remember the chicken did nothing wrong.

>>8481134
>hey that's our line!

>>8478483
Last row #3 looks like a Shambler/Paramite mix, which I should hate, but the AIPog in the top row takes the crown.

>>8478483
This is what the UAC keeps hidden in the basement of the Spawning Vats.

>>8476229
The bar is not really high, seems like it got rid of all supernatural elements (and enemy variety), and there are many mid-2000s design tropes of "well, i killed every enemy, what the fuck do i do now and how do i do what i am supposed to" kind. Still, my God, they nailed the atmosphere and look of Ukrainean towns with later Rovno maps. Great pack, great new vehicle models, and i am really glad that it finally came out - i first heard about The Victors back in high school, it spent more than decade in the making. RTCW was so popular in Russia (and CIS i guess) that pirate publishers had contracted modders to make mission packs.

i only play the original versions of retro fps.