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>Try to keep it /vr/-related: Nothing past 5th gen(+ Dreamcast). Slight OT might be okay if related to CRTs (E.G. 16:9 compatible models, flatscreens, etc.) Systems with backwards compatibility are also pretty safe territory, assuming you're focusing on the older games. PC CRTs are also a-ok.
>Produce OC! Get out your real cameras and take beautiful pictures of your CRTs displaying recognizable characters with the kind of beautiful accuracy that brings tears to the eyes of young and old alike! If you take 100 photos, at least one of them will turn out alright! (maybe)
>Try to be as detailed as possible when asking info on a specific model. As always, google is your friend, and we are your friends with benefits. Older archived threads aren't a bad place to look either.
>Share appreciation for others choice of technology and personal philosophy of gaming. As always show courtesy in your discussion and moderate yourselves first.

Discussion of video processing and scaling devices is okay, but try to keep the focus on CRTs and CRT accessories

CRT Pastebin (WIP) : http://pastebin.com/1Ri5TS3x
Guide to CRT Hunting : http://pastebin.com/H9H9L2LQ
Guide to Video Monitors : http://pastebin.com/pQX4N6gZ
General Purpose CRT Adjustment Guide : http://www.arcaderepairtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/guide_setup_adjust_arcade_monitors_v1.2.0.pdf
S-Video Pasta : http://pastebin.com/rH2h6C7W
BKM-10R Protocol Info : http://pastebin.com/aTUWf33J
JVC RGB card cloning guide : https://pastebin.com/EXqMBfcY

>> No.8437047

Why don't you update the OP? Gamecube, PS2, Xbox is meant to be experienced on CRT.

>> No.8437051

>>8437047
Xbox is best on a hi-def capable CRT. Same for 480p capable GC games

>> No.8437059

>>8437051
No, 480i looks better for GameCube and Xbox and they look best on a plain consumer CRT. You aren't supposed to see every pixel, it's supposed to blend a bit; the result on an era appropriate TV is best.

>> No.8437063

>>8437051
WRONG
>>8437059
RIGHT

>> No.8437073

>>8437059
Yeah that's why there are absolutely no gamecube games that allowed progressive scan. Developers never ever expected you to use anything but 480i.

>> No.8437086

>>8437059
480p definitely looks better, however sometimes at the cost of performance or graphical effects

>> No.8437093

>>8437073
I have the cables anon, I played GameCube games exclusively in 480p for a decade. Once I started doing it on a regular CRT again it started to click. Everything just looks way better.

>> No.8437102

>Go outside
>die

yeah no thanks

>> No.8437141

https://dotronix.com/our-work/dnr-series/

apparently these niggas still make crts

>> No.8437142

>>8437046
Hooooly shit that looks cozy.

>> No.8437148

>>8437141
they don't make the tubes as far as I'm aware

>> No.8437149

>>8437141
I saw this linked a week or so ago but I never found out how much they cost. I'm just gonna assume it's in the many thousands though.
>>8437142
I had a setup like that in our back patio with netting around for the bugs, it was so comfy, so much so that I'd fall asleep out there on the couch while playing with my ps one.
Definitely recommend it if you have the space but make sure to get netting for bugs.

>> No.8437157
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8437157

>rgb

>> No.8437164

>>8437157
>playing 6th gen on anything but

>> No.8437169

>>8437148
oh that makes sense i guess i got a little too excited
>>8437149
apparently like $3000 lol

>> No.8437180

>>8437149
>I had a setup like that in our back patio with netting around for the bugs
sounds cool
i remember seeing old people hanging out in their covered porch watching TV when id walk to friends houses at night as a kid and thinking how comfy it looked

>> No.8437190

>>8437157
Imagine what the guy who made this looks like.

>> No.8437198

>>8437190
I assumed it was a self-portrait

>> No.8438508

>>8437093
Not that anon, but are you saying that 480i or 480p is better for GameCube? I've seen comparisons and it appears that 480p looks better in supported games.

>> No.8438742

>>8437190
Like Try but 3x fatter and 10x uglier

>> No.8438791

>>8437149
>>8437169
>>8437180
It's called a screen house, you 'tards.

>> No.8438871
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8438871

I've got this TV. It's a 1984 Fisher console set. Has two composite ins and awesome audio. Recently my buds and I were playin' some mario world on it or something and it started doing this in the webm. The whole picture is scrolling waves upwards but the image of the picture itself doesn't scroll. Anybody know what causes this? I'm thinking its something in the horizontal circuit.

>> No.8438902

>>8437141
>Ideal for Art Galleries and Museum Exhibits
why though

>> No.8438937

>>8438508
480p looks better but he's saying to use 480i because it's supposed to look worse on purpose because it's soulful.

>> No.8438956

Is there absolutely anything I can do about having a “dead pixel” on my shadowmask JVC? I’m guessing no

>> No.8438964
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>> No.8438965

>>8437157
BASED. Fuck the MLIG fags.

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>>8438964

>> No.8439008

>>8438902
There's a lot of old video exhibits/pieces that were made on contemporary-era formats/displays where you could argue updating the tech would ruin or otherwise change the look/feel/intent of the work. It's kinda bullshit but it makes sense

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8439174

Does this look like a leaky cap or some epoxy

>> No.8439184

>>8439174
It looks fucking dirty. Clean it up a little, then take a better look at the stuff that's coated, maybe scratch at a bit of the stuff on the PCB

>> No.8439213

>>8437190
>schoolyard level cope
holy kek

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>>8438964
>>8438969
>MGS
based as fuck.

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>>8439184
The flash made it look dirtier but here it is wiped with alcohol, it’s looking more like resin dripped on it

>> No.8439248

>>8438742
I read this post in Try's voice in my head for whatever reason

>> No.8439268
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8439268

This is a lovely interior to work with

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>>8439268
This is what I’m trying to fix. These vertical ghosting lines that don’t move, what could be the cause?

>> No.8439428

>>8439392
If that isn't burn-in, it's a signal overlap or bad signal.

>> No.8439438

>>8439428
I can slap the chassis and it goes away and fades back in. It might be grounding

>> No.8439534

>>8439438
Bad connection most likely.

>> No.8439556

I have a Trinitron from dad he stored ages ago but it has some nasty old sticker residue on the screen which I'm scared of trying to rub off in fear of damaging the screen.

>> No.8439568

>>8437051
They're best on a CRT with YPbPr yeah. But that's still a CRT.

>> No.8439573

>>8439556
Just dip a q-tip into some isopropyl alcohol and apply it carefully and wipe it off after you get it nice and good with a moist sot cloth, like a shitty t-shirt, cotton preferably, don't use paper towels, that'll do a bad job and might cause small scratches.

>> No.8439649

>>8437051
Even with component cables for my 6th gen systems I still play them all hooked up to a standard def CRT. it's just more SOVLful and 480p on an LCD looks jaggy as shit.

>> No.8439651

>>8439213
>not refuting

>> No.8440751

good news bros, they're making brand new crts!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50XL37kJ3ME

>> No.8440756

>>8439649
Who said anything about LCD? 480p on an HDCRT looks better.

>> No.8440758

>>8439568
Not all CRTs with YPbPr are hi-def CRTs.

>> No.8440786

>>8440758
And I don't necessarily agree with the "needs to be a hi-def CRT" part.
But again, a hi-def CRT is still a CRT. I don't understand the PS2, Xbox, Gamecube exclusion unless it's gatekeeping 6th gen.

>> No.8441013

>>8440751
If you google the tubes used in that kit they're unironically new old stock from 70 years ago

>> No.8441745
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8441745

got this badboy
will have to jumper mod it to set it up, because it's just SW 3.0. primarily want to play GameCube games with a Wii on it

>> No.8441792

>>8438969
The intellimouse. Respect.

>> No.8441827

>>8441745
>wearing shoes inside
What the fuck?

>> No.8441852

>>8441745
KENTUCKY
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>> No.8443793

>>8439556
Wd40 or any oil. Spray on paper towel, scrub on spot for a few mins, clean off with water/windex whatever and badda bing, badda boom

>> No.8443851

>>8441013
As opposed to ironically using new old stock from 70 years ago?

>> No.8443858

What's a good price to pay for someone to RGB/s-video mod your CRT for you? Tempted to get me an old Trinitron, but it's RF only.

>> No.8443938

>>8443858
An old rf only model might be significantly harder to mod than a newer model. The rgb mods usually tap into the menu display, but if it’s too old it won’t have a menu

>> No.8444294

>>8437157
I never understood the whole obsession with rgb modding consoles and wanting to play on an overpriced monitor that ran for 20000 hours in a TV station.

>> No.8444319

>>8444294
years ago it was an easy way to get a free to cheap (sub $100) RGB setup when the alternative was a $300 framemeister

nowadays it's exclusively dumb fucks

old games look better on regular TVs over composite anyway

>> No.8444328

>>8444319
based consumer set patrician

>> No.8444331

>>8444319
that's some real fucking 'strewth right there, stay based anon.

>> No.8444339

I want a CRT with YPbPr bros, or at least S-video :/

>> No.8444342

>>8444339
Non progressive scan trinitron you get component with none of the processing downsides of WEGAs.

>> No.8444349

>>8437157
Based Try always says video games are meant to be enjoyed the way you want them to

>> No.8444356

>>8444342
>processing downsides of WEGAs
Wait my Trinitron says WEGA on the top left and it has component in... it's only 480i too, is it shit?

>> No.8444362

>>8444356
Those are fine I think. It's the ones that can do 1080i that have lag.

>> No.8444370

>>8444362
oh right, gotcha, thanks for the info anon.

>> No.8444389

>>8444356
>>8444342
WEGA just means flat screen. There are very few non-WEGA trinitrons with component video, I can think of specifically one being the 27xbr45

>> No.8444392

>>8444389
So are their WEGAs that don't have that branding on them? Because I have flat silver trin with component without the WEGA mark in the corner.

>> No.8444398

>>8444389
Make that the 35xbr88
>>8444392
I’m not sure, maybe they decided to start putting the badge on later, maybe they changed the flatscreen technology a bit and gave it new branding

>> No.8444405

>>8444392
>>8444398
So mine is a KV-27FS100 and they don't use the WEGA branding on the tv itself.

>> No.8444451

>>8444339
I was able to source several brand new in box s-video capable CRT security monitors, got my last one late last year

those still may an option

or just get as basic as you can composite-input CRT TV in as good a condition as you can find and just enjoy, you'll stop thinking about the minor artifacts some consoles have

>> No.8444495

>>8441745
fucking beautiful set
nice houseplants too