/vr/ - Retro Games

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Nintendo fanboy thread is here >>840481

I grew up with Snes and yet I still love both systems equally.

question, are these region free?

SNES had more JRPG's. That's about it. Genesis was better in every other regard, though.

>Is there anything this console does well?

What Nintendon't.

>>840734
this, for shooters its equal with the pc engine too imo.

>>840770
i dunno m8, did turbo-grafics have thunder force 4 or gleylancer or musha or fireshark?

Genesis wins for shmups, run-n-guns, brawlers.
SNES wins for JRPGs.
Both platforms tie for platformers.

Genesis wins.

>>840783
it had blazing lazers, super star solider, final soldier, soldier blade, best r-type, best gradius, best gradius 2, best salamander, gate of thunder, it had some awesome shit but yeah all the ones you listed are what put genny on par with TG16 imo

>>840673
>TG-16 has better shmups.

The only platforming games I enjoyed on the Genesis was Sonic, and even then I'd rather play Mario. I've tried Ristar, Vectorman, Valis, and Eccho and they were all decent, and compared to the Super Nintendo's platformers, that's all they were.

SNES had games like Kirby, Yoshi's Island, Mega Man X, and Super Metroid.

>>840851
yoshi's island is pure dogshit. I can see why you prefer the SNES though

I enjoyed Landstalker more than Link to the Past. Am I the only one?

Genesis has a lot of nice games, but it's almost remarkable that the Genesis was neck and neck with the SNES back in the day.

There are just much more gems on the SNES, and while that doesn't take away from the Genesis, it's clear being darker and hipper was just as effective for marketing then as now.

Unless you have your nostalgia goggles on too tight.

>>841156
you're the one with your nostalgia goggles on too tight. Genesis has more gems you probably think RKA is some hidden gem. SNES has better RPGs thats it.

Genesis was fucking great for action games

>>841156
the marketing didn't have as much to do with it as it gets credit for. being half the price of a SNES for years, and being the go to system for sports games had alot more to do with it being able to compete than marketing.

>>841315
It's not the nineties anymore (sadly), it's not a competition, I like to enjoy awesome games on any platform, I just find that the Genesis doesn't have as many gems as the SNES.

I honestly don't care about the silly "war" of the time.

>Besides, PC was better than both of the consoles.

>>840673
>Why is this console so terrible?
Because you're a fucking retard.
>Is there anything this console does well?
Sure, platformers, isometric platformers, action games, a mix of shit, a few RPGs, it also dominates in sports games unfortunately sports games are faggotry.

>>840972
Have you tried equinox or light crusader? Those might be up your alley.

>>841343
I had the super nintendo and NES growing up but I liked Genesis and TG16 too because my friend had them. I actually like the Genesis more because of all the awesome games I have found on it. Genesis has awesome arcade ports and the SNES kind of fails there.

> arcade ports

But in an age where MAME is so easy to use it's a moot point.

>>840717
Both the Genesis and the SNES are "region free". The carts are differently shaped though, and you have to play them through a game genie or similar device.

Most Genesis games from the year 1994 ARE region locked, though.

Also, OP is a faggot.

>>841370
I have Solstice for the NES sitting on a shelf but I didn't care for it when I first tried it. I was actually thinking of trying it again recently since my tastes have changed over the years.

Would you say Equinox is better than Solstice? I've tried Light Crusader in an emulator and wasn't hooked but I didn't give it a fair shake either. I just played for like 5 minutes so ya know some day I'll give it another go.

I'm kind of weird with how I play games man. I'll be really interested in something and pick it up then let it sit around for ages (some times years) until I get a bug up my ass to play it. Or I'll start it and come back to it a year or two later and think to myself why the fuck didn't I just finish it when I first started it.

>>840673
Yeah, "Blast Processing," or in plain English, "jack fucking shit."

>>841420
In plain Egnlish: "The processor is about a third faster than the SNES processor"

That's why the SNES is known for RPGs, because it can't actually run any other genre without crippling slowdown.

>>841417
>Would you say Equinox is better than Solstice?

beside the perspective, they're really very different games. whereas Solstice is one big labyrinth, Equinox has an over-world and is broken up into Zelda-ish type dungeons. also Equinox is a very hard game, I highly highly reccomend using the unlimited lifes and magic code. even using that the game is still a huge challenge.

>>841442
Sounds pretty bad ass. I'll definitely check it out.

>>840851
I don't think there is any platforming in Ecco.

>>841420
Gotta go fast

>>841431
I think it held the SNES back. When it did action type games it just couldn't display as much as the other consoles thus a lot of its action games just didn't reach their full potential because they either had to scale back or you would be hit with a wall of slow down.

>>840875

>Yoshi's Island
>Pure dogshit

what the fuck dude, I'm a Sega guy and I still fucking love that game.

This game alone made my Genesis a great console.

>>841431
>In plain Egnlish: "The processor is about a third faster than the SNES processor"
Except it's not. It's about ~0.8x faster.

>>841695

It doesn't matter. They're two different systems with completely different CPUs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megahertz_myth

>>841701
Yeah, no shit megahertz myth, the Sega is clocked twice as fast, hence pointing out that it's not actually a third faster but in fact, slower typically. SNES handles bandwidth and transfers far better, the Genesis has a bunch of registers to use. Genesis has more versatile sprite dynamics, SNES has larger, more and better colors for sprites but is limited to which ones it can use.

>>841708
>Yeah, no shit megahertz myth

Ok, so which post was yours? If you already knew about it then why why were you arguing with >>841431

They're both great systems so what is anyone's point? OP probably just wanted to stir up shit anyway.

>>841431
>>841420
In plain english, it's an obscure programming trick to display tiles while simultaneously loading another one.

>>840972
Those games have nothing in common besides the fact that you play as a blonde elf.

>>842293
They're both action adventure games with a series of puzzle filled dungeons. Also Link in Link to the Past had pink hair.

road rash 2 & 3
strider
shining force (or in the darkness if you like 1st person pov)
splatterhouse 3
animaniacs
mortal kombat 1 (see if notice any difference from the snes version)

>>840734
>Genesis was better in every other regard, though.

That's blatantly wrong though...

>>840784
Genesis had very little platformers compared to snes... are there any on genesis that rival the quality of DKC 1, 2, 3, Mario world, all stars, yoshi's island, Kirby fucking super star, Megaman X 1 2 and 3, Cybernator, metal warriors, blackthorne, Super castlevania 4, demon's crest, DoReMi fantasy, Phantom 2049, plok, super metroid


I feel like genesis fans waaaayyyy overplay how good the library was on it

>>840834
It does

>>841343
>PC
>better in the 4th generation
Hell no. You get what, a better Doom port in exchange for having to fuck around with command prompts, sound card drivers, serial bus devices that never worked and a $2,000+ initial investment?

>>842570
Shumps were better cause they're no longer crippled by the horrible framerate drops that SNES had due to the SNES CPU. The only impressive shump for the SNES was Axelay and even then the framerate takes a huge shit in that game.

Run n Guns games were generally alot better and there were more on the Genesis cause of the faster CPU speed. Gunstar Heroes and Contra Hard Corps rarely have slowdown and its minimum at best and doesn't ruin it. SNES again loses this battle cause the CPU can't handle some of the shit that happens in some games.

Also some versions of Genesis games were alot better on their SNES counterpart. Turtles in time on SNES is horrible with it being a slow as fuck game compared to the original, not having a run button(when the Genesis had it with its 3 button controller) and was alot easier. Hyperstone Heist actually ran near the same speed as the Original arcade games and was actually a good challenge unlike the Arcade quarter munching or the SNES version easy. Earthworm Jim is also another Genesis game that was better on Genesis than SNES.

As for Beat n Ups it had fucking Streets of Rage which pretty much beat the shit out of Final Fight in every regard.

Platformers its really even. It comes to preference at this point.

the only thing the SNES had over the Genesis was RPGS.

Quackshot
Dynamite Headdy
Langrisser 1 & 2
Genesis Does What Nintendon't

>>842585
>>842585
Sonic 1-3 & Knuckles
Ristar
Rocket Night Adventure
Castlevannia Bloodlines
Batman
Castle of Illusion
Earthworm Jim 1-2
Pulseman
Revenge of Shinobi
Shinobi III:
Strider

And those are just the platformers and I probably didn't list all the great ones

Genesis has such a great library that has everything for every genre.

Personally the Genesis library is equal and in some ways better than the SNES.

These threads never go anywhere cause its really preference if you preferred the Genesis and SNES games. Though saying the Genesis had no good games other than Sonic is just flat out ignorance

>>842609
Wasn't it SEGA, not Genesis?

>>842623
YOU CAN'T DO THIS ON NINTENDO~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nsBoqJ6s8

>>842616
Glad you didn't list Alex Kidd. It seemed cool at the time cuz all I'd really played was NES, but I'd forgotten how damn slippy-slidey Alex is, moving like a teflon-coated turtle on ice. Hopefully some Castle of Illusion will get the rage out of my veins.

>tfw you fapped to ads in your old Electronic Gaming Monthlys

Whenever I play a genesis game it always feels so.. ghetto... I don't really know how to describe it but the graphics always seemed "off" and the music was always farty and horrible unless it was a jap composer who knew how to work the fm synth (which was rare obviously). I like some genesis games, don't get me wrong, but it just all feels second rate compared to efforts on snes

>>842638
who the fuck is Alex Kidd

>>840673
Troll thread

>>842641
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=alex+kidd

honestly Time has decided for us, while Snes has tons of well remembered classics that are still played and discussed in the mainstream, the only genesis series or game that is relevant today is SANIC HEGEHOG and the fact that the next sonic game is exclusive to nintendo is very telling. If someone tried to tell me in real life that the genesis' library stacks up to the snes I'd really laugh in their face. genesis only sold remarkably well in north america, where it ran on the fumes of the sonic craze, smear ads(BLAST PROCESSING, GENSIS DOES WAT NINTEDON'T(which looking back they really didn't do what nintendid lololol), being "cool"(MORTAL KOMBAT HASS BLOODDD GUYS!! SO COOL AND MATURE! MARIO IS FOR BABIES NEVERRMIND THE FACT THAT MK IS A SHIT GAME IN THE FIRST PLACE), and being the console for cool games(SPORRTRTTSSS)) and not baby games like mario... and nintendo sold the snes on simply putting out amazing games, and it simply shows. Again, time has already decided.

>>842641
some shitty old mario-alike that sega made to compete with nintendo but bombed miserably

>>842662
And even when games that genesis was known for get remade for modern console it's shit (see the new rocket knight game)

people seriously replying to a troll thread, take the console war fanboy bullshit to /v/

Both systems have huge libraries that cover every major genre.
Genesis had some good fast-paced run n gun and shmup games that beat their SNES counterparts, but the SNES had a larger library of RPGs to make up for that.

This entire debate is ultimately decided on whether or not you want more Square games or games like Gunstar Heroes. It's purely subjective and you're idiots for trying to claim one system was objectively better.

>>840972

Beyond Oasis is fucking rad too.

>>841402
PAL Snes is region locked.

The SNES really fails at fast, arcade-like action games that you can just pick up and play. It fails hard.

Also, the Genesis has a TON more obscure or overlooked games that can be had for peanuts nowadays, so there's that too. Actually, collecting a solid library for the Genny is insanely cheap in general, at least compared to the SNES.

>>840673
>muh console war
You know for a fact that's the only reason you started this thread, OP. The Genesis was great, and so was the SNES.

>>840717

My mk1 is

I just like the Genesis more when it came to any action packed game. Racing, Shoot 'Em Up, Run N' Gun, Action Platforming, Isometric Shooters, and so on. Even with the great wealth of RPG's the SNES had I just like the only Genesis RPG I've played more than what I have currently played on the SNES, which is Shadowrun. Though if the Romancing SaGa trilogy was localized I'd probably be saying something different, but that isn't the case.

I try to collect the best games for my systems and I have nearly 100 genesis games and only 40 SNES games, from an unbiased perspective.

>>846101
>I try to collect the best games for my systems and I have nearly 100 genesis games and only 40 SNES games, from an unbiased perspective.

Are you just buying what is perceived to be the best games or what you feel to be the best games?

>>848509
I buy what I think is actually worth playing and my genesis collection kicks the shit out of what I have for SNES, I think I have everything worth owning on SNES minus a few RPGs too.

This is a battle no one can win. The two consoles have good games and bad games, leave it at that. It's all a matter of opinion. God, this shit would have been worse if we had crap like Metacritic back then.

If I say that after owning the Genesis and SNES version of Earthworm Jim that I kind of prefer the SNES version, you guys will rail against anything else I say that could potentially be valid anyway.

this is what I had for SNES pretty dece a few moar games I still want.

>>840851
Then you need to play RKA or Dynamite Headdy, faglord.

>>848639
Now this is what I have accumulated for Genesis. I loved them both as a kid even the TG 16. I just never owned a genesis myself. Fucking amazing library not too many people bother to delve into i think. Super Nintendo has nothing on the level of General Chaos.

>>848642
Mega Bomberman, Robocop VS Terminator. You're all right.

>>848642
Where is your dynamite headdy and ranger x?

>>848874
havent come across them for a fair price yet, but yeah I want those games and trouble shooter and el viento especially

>>840673
anyone remember that gem drop game that I think might have come with some of the consoles. It's driving me nuts that I can't think of the title, but it wasn't popular enough to find easily online.

>>849007
Columns.

>>842640
I feel the same way, the palettes are shit and the games seem to be written by demoscene guys. That's how I feel every time I see Road Rash, for example. Maybe it's because the Genesis predates the SNES, so all the example games I can think of are from the early early 90's. It's like you'd compare Phantasy Star IV to Lagoon, not Final Fantasy 6.

The sound quality issues were due to the default sound programming library being pretty basic.

>>849081
But then stuff like Thunderforce 3 is fucking sexy on the genesis and thunder spirits on SNES looks like shit.

While SNES had more RPGS than the Genesis, I would argue that the Genesis had overall more high-quality ones.

Coming from someone who likes the SNES more than the Genesis on average.

>>848639

William's Greatest Arcade Hits? Don't see that one often. Have fun with your Robotron.

>>849146
thats why i bought it

I played the NES growing up, but ended up getting a Genesis for Christmas instead of the SNES because my parents found the Genesis cheaper.

No regrets. Even to this day I like the Genesis the best, but the fact I am not big into JRPG games probably cements that as much as the fact that was the console I ended up with as far as 16 Bit is concerned.

Wow, it's 1991 all over again. Thanks for the console fanboy hate nostalgia, OP.

SNES vs. Genesis was proof that console fanboyism is older than most kids think. Hell, there was console fanboyism back with the Atari vs. Intellivision.

Nothing new under the sun. And Genesis was my favorite, yet I had both.

>>849159

I prefer the Genesis, but both were great.

Kids hate what they can't own both of.

Is this beauty worth buying today? I already own a vectrex, ps1 and atari VCS, but it has always appealed to me

>>849361
IF you get the games that are actually worth owning for the system, yes. Lots of good exclusives from Sega themselves and 3rd parties, but there's lots of bullshit too.

>>849159
>Atari vs. Intellivision.

Colecovision FTW!

>>842616
No way you're putting that list up against >>842585 . No way that holds at all. The SNES library was way fucking superior in that area (and in others). Not that this discussion matters at all in fucking 2013, but anyway.

>>848874
Oh fuck I had forgotten about Ranger X

>>849390
thats just blatant fanboyism right there. SNES doesnt even have an action platformer on the tier of Shinobi son

>go to /v/
>everyone praises Nintendo, shits on Sony
>go to /vg/
>3DS General constantly harassing the Vita General
>go to /vr/
>daily threads like these

Enough is enough.

>>840673
It was awesome growing up with Genesis and SNES and playing all the games that mattered at the time. Renting games, buying games, etc. Sucks you missed out on that OP. Troll harder.

Its 2013, stop arguing about it. Get all of them, they all have good games.

>>849372
name some, please. I might just grab one

>>850102
All I have been seeing is any Nintendo console after the NES get slapped like a bitch in /vr/.

>>850108
god damn that's hot...
...stupid repressed faggotry... :/

>>850082
Shinobi III is fucking great. That entire last level with all of that ceiling climbing, wall jumping, and precision platforming with that music playing. Great segment right before the final boss.