/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASES ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Download it here
https://www.nexusmods.com/quake/mods/7
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

AD MORTEM
Beta thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461-ad-mortem-a-mbf21-halloween-themed-megawad-beta/
Current release
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18le6ho89YT_myg8CiUUk2mw1439zPyyJ/view

=== CURRENT PROJECT ===
PATCHWORK
Awaiting project lead update
Info here https://pastebin.com/zkL8pa12

=== NEWS ===
[12-06] The Force Engine updated to 0.8
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/114497-the-force-engine-jedi-engine-portreplacement/

[12-05] Lee Jackson is now taking musical commisions
https://dleejackson.lbjackson.com/commissions/

[12-02] Bethesda Quake port updated, added Horde Mode
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2310/view/3102414008261877214

[11-30] Zerostorer: Dead Zone released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yY-6j1jdzDU

[11-29] Doom 64 25th Anniversary CP announced
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126015-doom64-25th-anniversary-community-map-jam/

[11-23] Alkaline 1.1 for Quake released
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=989

[11-22] Anon starts a Doom server for oblige maps
http://dailydoommap.org/

[11-21] RTCW: The Victors resurfaces with a trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMSN9ZkY8Mk

[11-21] id1 Quake maps converted to Valve format
https://toolness-media.s3.amazonaws.com/quake/trenchbroom_quake_map_source.zip

[11-19] Organ Grinder is tomorrow
https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1461838043531390983

[11-19] New TFE release: 0.7 - Core Game Loop completed
https://theforceengine.github.io/2021/11/18/cgl-release.html

[11-16] high-performance OpenGL4 fork of Quakespasm:
https://github.com/andrei-drexler/quakespasm/releases

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

>>8395904

Last call for claims. I'm going to declare this project dead by the end of this thread if nothing changes. Only got 7 actual maps despite all these claims, so unless that changes before this thread dies the project is over. I hope everyone who actually made a map can use them for some other project so all this good work doesn't go to waste. Maybe I'll try this project again later.

Who would have thought we'd live to see Lee Jackson produce original music for Doom wads.

I'm not OCD.

>>8396061
sure thing anon

>>8396101
being well organized is not OCD.

>>8396108
You sure?

What happened here? The Hell Knight randomly got stuck.

>>8396153
I saw this before and have no idea. Maybe there's a hidden pit in the ground to keep them from walking on and you pushed him in?

>>8396141
Yes.

>>8396163
You really REALLY sure?

>>8396184
Going out of your way to use the novel artworks and scrapped boxart is some dedication, though I can't tell if these are shortcuts to folders or .exes

>>8396184
Yeh

>>8396194
>shortcuts to folders or .exes
A bit of both.

>>8396153
something about prespective here bothers me
like both you and the hk shrinked

>>8396220
HK is drawn at the wrong height it seems.

so far I am havin fun

>>8396297
Is this the Horde Mode update?

i REALLY like this map aesthetics,wish there was a 32 map megawad with this look

>>8396313
It's from something made by some local nerds:
https://www.moddb.com/mods/violent-rumble

ECWolf is dead

>>8396329
Oh hey. It's out. I'll have to give it a play.

>>8396297
It bothers me that the new models they made are so good, and yet the muzzleflash of the RL slides through the whole gun and they still haven't gotten around to fixing it

>>8395935
nobody clarified what this project is about. draw a tile? but that's also the map?? no wonder it tanked
I wanted to contribute. I hope something else gets off the ground.

>>8396385
There's a pastebin in the news post that describes the project. It's been up there ever since I started this.

>>8396385
Do you ever read?

>>8396385
Fuck. Off.

>>8396396
>>8396403
>read da sticky
Yes, it exists thanks
>draw a tile in mspaint
>that's also the map(?)
someone thought this would translate into something intelligible?

>>8394924
Sure. We'll probably have a few updates before the Quaddicted submission.
>>8395668
>You can nab the RL on the start map, has just enough ammo for the zombies
Somehow I never tested if you could keep the rockets. oops...
>after rocket jumping to the nightmare skill gate
You don't need to rocket jump. Look up.
>The axe start impulse 35 doesn't seem to work, running QS 0.93.2 dunno why, is QSS only?
There's no CSQC involved, so it should work on anything. Is there a particular map it breaks on?
>>8396297
>>8396313
I kinda want to add a horde mode to VR at some point in the future - mostly because the vanilla weapon and enemy roster in Kex's gets boring. I really don't get their aversion to mission pack content.

>>8396375
I'm on the case, currently looking into what quake model editor to use

>>8396424
In QSS ff you disable CSQC extensions to revert back to the original HUD, the water in the first map, the clock tower, doesn't work. You just fall right through it as if it were illusionary, so you are unable to progress.

>>8395932
MEAT ON THE BONE

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFFFFFF

>>8396529
fucking what

>>8396424
>Particular map
Start.
The other impulse commands cause the things to light up when active, and give a console message.
Impulse 35 doesn't do either, but manually hitting the axe start tile in the start map does work.
It's *just* the impulse command.
>Rocket jump
Feels better to reach the level select island with 3 HP after a near perfect rocket jump, don't really care if there's a button or something up top. :p

I hope the Doom 64 map project gets decent entries. For me, 64 has the best maps. I love it's use of scripts to make shifting moving maps.

>>8396184
Can someone post hd 3/4. I've never seen those before

>>8396529
this happened to me a few years ago on eduke

>>8396582

>>8396604

>>8396507
Looks like an engine issue. It seems to apply to ALL water, even id1 maps... when running id1.
I guess I better get working on HUD options.

>>8396574
Are you playing from the moddb/nexus release, or one of the release candidates? Impulse 35 was coded in pretty last-minute, but it's definitely there.

>>8396627
Was playing from the 1.0 release 1 hour after it was uploaded, can download the new one to see if it's in there still.

>>8396627
Moddb release. Derp.

>>8396606
looks like early shadow warrior

>>8396627
It seems like the HUD has been giving you the most issues out of everything.

>>8396730
Probably, yeah. Documentation for what hackery you can achieve with the vanilla hud is basically non-existent, and CSQC is filled with weird, inexplicable shit like zooming (railgun) just not working in vkQuake or FTE. Is there another setting I need? A different extension file? Who knows.

>>8395904
Found this Deus Ex wallpaper. The resolution is weird though.

>>8396839
SBARINFO and CSQC. Just something about em.

>>8396842
I tried waifu2x, but it's not perfect. It's not really great at things like this, but it was worth a shot.

Just slap a rainy day overlay on it

>>8396529
Looks like you're missing monster closet prime, look for switches and clench your asshole

>>8396529
Well what are you waiting for? Get to work.

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doom fireblu
https://i.imgur.com/i2QaGaM.jpg

>>8396375
sounds like someone forgot to define frames as muzzleflash to exclude animation interpolation

I got back to Sunlust after a few weeks break, maps 20-23 done. This wad is seriously fun, after all I've read on /vr/ I was expecting an overrated and bullshit hard wad but it's actually properly balanced. Why did you guys lie to me?

oh fuck, violent rumble is done?

>>8396839
Fresh download of Violent Rumble from Moddb.
Impulse 35 is still broken for me.

Also some more bizarreness from 0.94.3 is that if you have QS 0.93.2 folders in your Quake directory, FOV changing works (without altering the drawviewmodel), but if those folders aren't in your Quake directory and you only have the 0.94.3 folders there FOV changing is broken.

>>8397657
don't use multiple ports in one directory

>>8397661
Why?
Having 0.93.2 and 0.94.3 folders both in directory allows FOV changing in 0.94.3 , which doesn't work with only 0.94.3 folders.

>>8396385
>I hope something else gets off the ground.
We can do TEKKR 2 or whatever it's called

>>8396209
You can make shortcuts to .bat files if you want to add PWADs as well

>>8396507
I just found something. Try 'cl_nocsqc 1' in console with extensions enabled.

>>8397657
I honestly don't know what to tell you. Anyone else having this issue?

>>8397774
Well it's something of a nitpick really, everything else works perfectly AFAICT.

>>8397738
But, why? Just put the parameters directly into the shortcut.

>>8396061
OCD would have them all in almost the same size

Why Redneck Rampage firefights are so junky? Graphics is really good in Raze. Weapon selection is okay. But actual weapons usage and monsters - fuck that. Just compare dynamite here and in Blood. Playing Downtown Hickston and aliens are very annoning, why the hell they oneshot you.

>>8398182
I always found the Build RNG to be harsh with any game.

Give me the horse mode from quake remasters and so I can play it

>>8396385

>>8396385
Don't worry about it son just keep playing brootal doom

>>8398182
Are you talking about vixens? They are probably the highest damage build engine enemies, iirc their hitscans don't do that much though so get used to avoiding their projectiles

>>8395924
>tried Build

Can Seesaw platforms be possible in Doom?
Like being able to catapult yourself if you drop an object on the other hand of a thing or even use it to catapult imps into a spiked ceiling

>>8398234
>>8398246
stupid project lol

>>8396297
Shooting while on that rotating platform is some Castlevania shit. kino

>>8398229
>horse mode
Quack is built entirely around playing as a duck, horse mode would be a nightmare to balance

>>8396061
post the Doom image

>>8398628

>>8398336
patchwork projects are fun but you'd need a much higher ip count in these threads to get one off the ground

>>8397774
That works good. I don't care much for the new HUD but these maps are kick ass, great job to everyone involved.

I look forward to Cacowards, yes I do!

I sure hope nobody would notice I made the same map over and over again through my entire mapping career.

>>8398807
okay, bridge****er

>>8398182
yeah i tried playing through the game and it feels like everything is in place but then they ran all the game's numbers through a random generator
it's like the game is on the cusp of being playable

>>8398868
I was watching my cousin play it one time & we couldn't stop laughing at the jokes (The well & the outhouse)

I was thinking here, now that Quake II 25th Anniversary is next year, and Thursday is the 24th.
>Its obvious that a Remaster is coming, RTX proved out to be a bad idea
>Quake Remastered port is a huge success, console is having fun, and PC brought new blood, and mainly with new stuff getting added, outside the original release.
>Quake 64 port turned out to be good as Doom64
>Obvious that Abyss is going to be the next on Quake 1 "official mission packs" added to the remaster, very soon-ish.
>Normies wishes for more Quake remasters
>Q2 sweeps in with fixed AI, new monster models using the unused ai animations like super tank reverse firing and grenades, Nightmare difficulty, and Mission packs.
>Zaero and Oblivion becomes Official DLC's
>PS1 and N64 gets in as Bonuses for finishing the game.
>Lazarus and 3.24 support Day 1 with 3.20 backwards compatibility with maps, so you can play skyscraper and KMquake2 maps.
>Multiplayer is untouched outside server browser, player limit is now 200 players, so the 64 player maps goes insane.
>Expanded limits due to Q2's behavior, so you get citadel and earth with huge draw range, almost open world.
>This is used later for Heretic 2 once Activision dies out and MS gets Hexen and Heretic rights off the salvage along with what is left of Raven.

>>8398887
Would be really cool but I'm not getting any hopes up, especially since my Q2 stuff is on GOG and that's been going through the shits lately.
I also question how well people would receive it compared to 1's re-release.

>>8398887
>Remaster
You mean "re-release"? Because that's what Quake got.
>>Quake Remastered port
Enhanced*.
This anon right here gets it. >>8398931

>>8395904
Hey, I just wanted to thank you for these threads because they encouraged me to finally get into playing Doom mods. I always loved the game, and I'm old enough to remember when it first came out, but for whatever reason until I saw these threads I hadn't bothered. Having a blast.

>>8398941

>download vr quake mappack
>there's a twin peaks level
cute

>>8398970
Please link
I'm a huge twin peaks fan

>>8398997
here you go >>8396329

>>8398941
What have you played so far?

>>8398887
There's one flaw in your master plan. Quake 2 is shit so nobody cares about this.

>>8399053
i do

>>8398931
They will do, people will pay a lot to play the console ports of id games on PC if they are accessible.
If Activision wasn't holding Hexen by the balls, there would be a Re-release with the PS1 cutscenes on top of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LAYRHjI9k

>>8399059
Its Alf, just report and ignore the bait.

>>8399065
>They will do, people will pay a lot to play the console ports of id games on PC if they are accessible.
In that regard, I'd only want to see the 64 port so the guy who worked on Mission 64 would have most of his work done for him.
Q64 I did not care for, though I do like having the OST around.

that reminds me
re-releases of the console q2 ports would be cool and the same for q3 and rtcw
i think rtcw even had a dog enemy whose design was used in machinegames wolfenstein

>>8399126
PS2 port of RTCW has the prologue in Egypt, which was never ported for PC.
PS2 Q3A had a nice story mode.

>>8399126
I need to finish through the whole thing properly emulated sometime. The level progression didn't feel as intricate but the straightforward approach was still fun.

>>8398249
Yep, these bitches are just not fun. I've dropped it the last time, when was playing in dosbox (so slower movement and imprecise mouse even with bmouse) and was unable to kill the alien in a bank. It is easier with Raze (runs really smooth), still encounters with both types of aliens were not fun. Really like the art-direction though, besides "dirty redneck town theme" there is really good and diverse set of textures and various minor detail objects, environment feels real. For example Blood beyond E1 was less consistent/memorable. Also quite like the puzzles, though they are usually more hard and obscure than needed.

Okay, list of features for my anniversary release of Sneed Claus that I added:
>GLDefs
>Brutal Blood
>Removed the MicroUzi
>Added a Winchester
>Added a Flamethrower
>Made revolver do gibbing damage.

>>8399302
Did you remove the cringe yet

>>8399307
no.

>>8399364
Unfortunate

>>8399065
>Hexen 2 if done in unreal Engine 1.

>>8395904
That just looks like something out of The Neverhood

Is there any good custom content for Hexen? I know there's plenty for Heretic, but I have no clue about any for Hexen.

>>8395904
Gonna download and start playing Heretic II tomorrow, anything I should know or can I just jump in? Does it matter I haven't played the first one?

>>8398804
I just interested in how much their choices would suck this time.

>>8399970
Fuck me I meant Hexen 2

>>8398804
Ah, that means these threads will be completely unusable again.

>>8399008
Too much. It's like brain overload. The obligatory Brutal Doom. Castlevania: Simon's Destiny, Spram's Metroid, Golden Souls 2, Strain, Back to Saturn X, Phobos: Anomaly Reborn. Haven't played much for long, but played a lot of a little. Think I should just focus on one but it's a little like being a kid in a free candy store right now.

>>8399216
Yes the maps are pretty much the only thing carrying Redneck Rampage and even they are very hit and miss. Vixens are annoying but you can get used to them. There is a map in its DLC, I don't remember its name atm but it starts with a car crash iirc and has two houses and a barn in middle, that has shitload of vixens in it and was very hard but I ended up having fun with it

>>8400136
Play Ad Mortem.

>have intense but short lived focus on things all the time
>one day the thing is Doom
>beat all commercial Doom 1 and 2 content doing saveless pistolstart 100% kills on prboom+
>suddenly all interest is gone, mods or otherwise
It's been cool, Doom bros... I will never forget doing River Styx saveless over and over with flu. Thanks for reading this blogpost and thanks for being there for the journey. I hope one day I will come back to finish A.L.T.

>>8400136
play Ancient Aliens
ideally on an accurate source port like DSDA Doom, instead of GZDoom - but if you absolutely must, GZDoom is fine

>>8400310
>ideally on an accurate source port like DSDA Doom, instead of GZDoom - but if you absolutely must, GZDoom is fine

>>8400315

>>8398941
ah you're in for a treat. (another old shitposter that was around when it started.)

how's the duke3d ps1 port? worth playing?

WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE LAST 2 SECRETS AAAAAAA IM GOING FUCKING INSANE I LITERALLY UNFED EVERYWHERE AND EVERYTHING IM LOOSING MY FUCKING MIND HERE

>>8400373
f you're that desperate just noclip.

Some guy is porting all of Turok 1 levels into Turok 2.

He's also porting Turok Evolution levels too. It's a little weird cus everything in Turok 2 is scaled up something like 2x so everything looks bigger and more empty than even usual for Turok

>>8400361
Runs like shit and looks like shit. Just grab the exclusive PS1 Episode for PC someone made instead.

>>8400361
play the total conversion for eduke

>>8400309
I hope you had fun. Remember, Doom remains fun, so come back here some day when you're feeling bored.

>>8395935
if it nukes i will rework my map to something but i would like it to continue anons :(

what is the minimum amount of saves someone could feasibly beat okuplok with

I want raze have 32 bit version

>>8400564
Sounds like the same sort of person that complained when Aleph One dropped PowerPC support.

>>8400503
>>8400309
Other games come and go, but DOOM IS ETERNAL!

>>8400543
0

>>8400780
How?

>>8400543
If you use saves you didn't really beat it

Does Tomb Raider go into Action-Adventure or 3rd-person shooter?

>>8395907
BuildGDX v1.16 released: https://m210.duke4.net/

>>8400852
>Sumos spawn in multiplayer is fixed
BuildGDX supports multiplayer?

>>8395904
https://leray.proboards.com/post/30680/thread
Its interesting how all of this is getting made on the old tools

>>8399962
Plenty. Cyrgoth series (3 hubs) are very good. I've played it with Wrath of Cronos, but vanilla also should be fine.

>>8400361
I like its music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJWgV7IBdHE

>>8400203
Just finished the Nut House, it plays really great. The map itself may look simplistic (no weird labyrinths and almost no secret doors), but the atmosphere is amazing. Differents parts of the map have different background noises themes. Gree and blue corridors look and feel like corridors in a real hospital. Entry hall, cells, dining rooms, bathrooms, morgue - all have really distinct texturing. It is similar to Duke E3 maps, but much more detailed. Final puzzle got the difficulty right and final alien was like a classic endboss.

>>8399962
Shadows Of Cronos is a pretty old-school style but not so confusing hub. Made by Kaiser (the guy behind Doom 64 port, BloodGDX, a million other things).
>>8399994
>>8399970
One thing to keep in mind is that (depending on difficulty), inventory items are actually pretty important to your survival. So don't forget to use them strategically.

>>8400957
>BloodGDX
*Blood Fresh Supply

Finally figured out how to make the railgun shoot through multiple targets. I also slapped on a new end splash sprite I stole from Malice and railgun shots will now almost always stagger enemies. Overall it should be more fun to use. https://files.catbox.moe/4ha73n.mp4

Still have absolutely no idea why the zoom function (DP_VIEWZOOM) only works on QSS though. Everything I can find says it should work on FTE and even vkQuake. If anyone has any idea please let me know.

Any experience recently with the "Build" and "Editart" application? I want to re-experience old memories.

>>8400315
Hey Graf, your shoelaces are untied.

>>8401015
Mapster32 and BAFed are the modern equivalents. They run natively on Windows (or other current OS) and are much improved upon the originals.

>>8400917
Yeah Nut House is a good map, I actually had a bug there where the background sounds weren't playing in BuildGDX but I guess that's not a thing in Raze. IIRC you also lose all your weapons in that map and why you went there isn't explained at all but shouldn't expect much from it I suppose
You're in the late half of the maps I'm pretty sure, which imo has the better maps. Like Uranium Mines, that mansion and morgue map, whatever they were called. If you like the way RR looks you'll probably love that morgue map, it looks really good from what I remember. One thing though, if you move on to its dlc it ups the difficulty but scales the maps down, you don't have fuck huge maps like Uranium Mines but you have shitload more vixens and way less health items
The sequel also has some big and good maps, I remember enjoying it

>>8401034
thaks.

>>8400974
I really like the railgun, I wish I could have found a good way to use it in my map.
Congratulations on the real release also. I played through HUH recently and I can say with certainty that this project turned out a lot better than that. I intend to make one more update to my map before the quaddicted release if it's not much trouble to add it.

>>8401106
>I intend to make one more update to my map before the quaddicted release if it's not much trouble to add it.
No trouble at all. I have a bunch of things I want to polish up before then in addition to giving bug reports a chance to flow in from the current release. New Years is probably a good target to aim for.

>>8400862
afaik it always had, never tried it myself though

Give me a good megawad I'll play in 23 minutes next to watching the fancut of Dune (1984).

Play it
https://browser-doom.io/

>>8401228
UAC Military Nightmare

it will all be over soon

>>8400309
You're here forever.

>>8395904
ive been thinking of playing through the marathon trilogy,are the games any good?

>>8401356
Yes. Make sure to read the terminals or you won't know what's going on.

>>8401356
No. Ugly artstyle, extremely primitive level design (play an average 1994 Doom wad for similar quality), and unsatisfying weapons.

>>8401246
I played the shareware again. I don't remember it as well as I thought it turns out. For some reason the mouse turning always feels off in browser even though it's supposedly just chocolate/crispy doom. Not great

>>8401384
Now play Doom 3
https://wasm.continuation-labs.com/d3demo/

>>8395935
I'd be down to making another tile but I can't close all vacancies alone.

I think we could try vr City kind of map as someone somewhere suggested. Everyone makes a self-contained plot of land and then project lead stiches them into a progression.

WE DID IT BOIS

>>8401427
did what

>>8401432
UHHH..NOT SURE

>>8401432
Beat the official 64 port only to be gifted cringe end text, a grim omen indeed.

>>8396061
I do but Ive made a lot of progress since then, I used to be so much worse with it.

I think my copy of DOOM is broken, Doomguy looks weird.

>>8401481
This guy is going to have a weird trip I suppose

>>8401485
Peculiar Expedition.

>>8401487
Now he looks even weirder. What did you do?

>>8401491
I tilted the floppy disk.

>>8400204
>>8400310
Thanks for the recommendations anons. May I ask why GZDoom would be a bad thing? I've been using GZDoom, Chocolate Doom, and Crispy Doom. I feel like Crispy Doom is my sweet spot, but GZDoom seems to work really well with so many mods that I've just been using that mostly.

>>8401561
GZdoom has god tier modding,no one denies that,there are even games on steam that now use GZdoom as the engine.its just not very faithful to the original in doing so.
also not him but definitely play ancient aliens,its amazing,also valiant,which is from the same guy

>>8401485
A rather, bizarre adventure, even.

>>8400342
I feel like I won the Doom lottery. It's either that, or somebody has been dosing my tap water with LSD and now all I see is cacodemons when I close my eyes.

>>8395935
Maybe the primary objective at this point should be finishing all the phase 1 tiles and combining them into a single map, THEN trying to attract people to make more phase 2 claims? Upon having full knowledge of the surrounding tiles, potential mappers could be more likely to get an idea of what to make. The lines in the WIP image don't tell that much.

I mean, just by thinking about the concept, the only way I could see independent designs combined into one map possibly working out well is if there is extra effort focused towards somehow bridging them together. That's what I imagined phase 2 was meant to serve as when the project idea was first thrown around: that the mappers' task would be to look at all the surrounding tiles, then make something that takes inspiration from and "fits" between them, imitating and weighing various traits at their discretion, such as combat, progression, textures, visual tropes and whatever else there is.

>>8401658
If I had got all of the phase 1 tiles done then I would have made a proper "test map" with all of them to help others design tiles for phase 2 but that never happened. I just opened up all the tiles eventually because the project started to die down.
At least the tiles were pretty small so I hope not too much time was wasted on these for those who worked on them. If they can work them into new maps then maybe we won't see all that work gone to waste.

>>8401448
isn't that "remain in hell" text the retcon to connect 2016?

>>8401717
IIRC that was in the original version as well.

>>8401717
its not a retcon,it was in the original,though it does connect doom64 to 2016 and eternal.

>>8398941
>>8400136
>>8401587
Do you like sim-style and tactical shooters like Rainbow Six and Ghost Recon?
If so, check out Hideous Destructor. Start with the community made Bootcamp map, and RTFM.

>>8401491
Activated "Big Head Mode."

Redpill me on Blake Stone

>>8401932
Hes zapp brannigan with pants and no cocksleeve assistant.

>>8401932
it does a lot more with wolf 3d's engine but i didn't finish it

>>8401481
Wish this was still being worked on. Seems abandoned. Always wanted more SMT x Doom crossovers.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=58310

https://youtu.be/jAWobtsTfME

>>8401732
Thanks. Honestly never even tried sim-style or tactical shooters other than the original Socom game on PS2. I don't think it's really my kind of thing. I mostly like machine gun goes brrrrrrr.

>>8401932
Great retro scifi aesthetic. Fucked gameplay. Hitstun is important in Wolf3D gameplay and Blake Stone has none. Planet Strike has some nice level design, at least.

>>8402123
Play Dakka

hey, someone recommended an alternative to ioquake3 that might be better, what was it?

How do you guys feel about Sigil

>>8402239
Was pretty good. Will play again.

>>8402239
a bit primitive in level design (by modern DOOM standards),great music (two good soundtracks),its fun to see how brutal romero gets for it being DOOM 1 stuff on UV,and its nice to see romero back at it.
with the feedback sigil 2 should be great

>>8402239
It should be integrated to the base iwad.

>>8402239
it's great for what it is

>>8402239
it's pretty much a must download and complete and replay every once a while for me at least
while I enjoy most wads there's something special about playing something of original doom level design quality again

>>8402239
It's not often I play a quality mapset that really evokes and enhances the atmosphere of the original game, which is probably because it was made by someone who worked on the original game

>>8402220
quake3e?

>Alien World Order is an official 5th episode but not Sigil
im mad

Anybody here play a lot of Doom mods on Linux? What's the experience like? What source ports should I be using? Any weird limitations?

>>8402450
that was the one

>>8402473
it's basically exactly the same as windows. sometimes you have to compile a port from source instead of having pre-made binaries available. most provide easy instructions.

>>8402473
I dabbled with a few installs of zandronum on linux and had to load it in safe mode so I could change the sound mode manually -- it was causing the game to fail to get to the title screen. Trying to fiddle with custom wads and ini files and skins and get screenshots is also a pain because I dont understand the file structure. But it's not like the game ran badly or anything though, once it got running it played fine.

>>8402470
Allen's levels were good at least

>>8402473
other than having alot of issues getting DSDA doom running due to the aur package not working (though the maintainer fixed it for me),and the betheda port of DOOM64 requiring a really old proton version,its been great,ive gotten all the DOOM games and mods ive wanted working.

looking for a quake fix for the rest of the winter, need some mods to play through. i have Arcane and VR installed already.

>>8402541
> i have Arcane and VR installed already

then go play them ;)

>>8402552
i will, i just said i already have them installed so people don't recommend them. looking for other recommendations.

>>8402563
YOU ALREADY HAVE STUFF TO PLAY DON'T FALL INTO THE ENDLESS BACKLOG RABBITHOLE

Still a bit new to retro shooters, do a lot of them have key hunting as the primary way to progress through levels or is it mostly a Doom thing

>>8402580
I CAN TAKE THE RISK

>>8402594
yes,its kinda legacy,but its the system most use.

8402517
(You)

>>8402621
did you not like the pyramid level even a little bit ;(

>>8402473
The Dave Taylor experience
https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/misc/ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/doom/linux/

>>8402641
and a FAQ
https://www.gamers.org/dhs/helpdocs/Linux-DOOM-FAQ.html

Apologies, anons, but it slipped my mind: what complevel was HFFM again?

>>8402690
Should be CL9 like any other run of the mill boom mapset. It was gonna use UMAPINFO but then we decided it didn't need it.

Which source ports have controller support? Asking for a friend

>>8402695
Thank you. Just wanted to know. I was referred to this megawad by a friend on discord, felt like finally was the day to check it out.

>>8402705
afaik,most of them due to SDL,they don't have ideal support (no gyro),but its serviceable.

>>8402705
Most of them do, but I think the official one is the best if you really want to play Doom with a controller. Scrolling through weapons is ass, and switching with the d-pad is superior.

WE NEED THIS BETA NOW
https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.next.announce/c/nXg-xigfHrU/m/b-LH48Np66oJ

Man, the Serious Editor sure is something. Lots of odd design choices for an editor but once you get into it everything makes perfect sense, I think.

>>8401356
Speaking of Marathon, did Bungie do anything of significance for the 25th Anniversary back in '19, or just the T-shit and iOS update? Are they saving it for the 28th Anniversary (being Pfhor x 7) in 2022?

>Don't gloat over any PC gamers you may know, or they may hunt me down and kill me.
>John Carmack Id Software
well you know what we gotta do now
kcamraC nhoJ lliK

>>8402779
NEXTchads got it first

>>8402753
An alpha will never see

Has anyone ever made a map intended to be played through using only the minimap?

ala you stay in the minimap the whole time?

>>8402517
It also ups the difficulty quite a bit, something Duke needed

>>8402779
you just got me thinking about a mirror universe where the wrong john is the icon of sin

>>8402898
>you stay in the minimap the whole time?
It'd only work with a game or mod that shows you where enemies are on a prox sensor or the map, or it'd need to be a puzzle level with no enemies.

>>8402491
>>8402508
>>8402518
>>8402641
>>8402491
>>8402508
Thank you anons! I managed to get GZdoom up and running without too much trouble. It's been an almost seamless transition once I figured that part out.

>>8402952
or with iddt
or in duke

>>8402942
or make enemies invisible and show them on the map, that would force it
you'd need to disable free aim and force auto aim for it to work though

>>8402956
for >>8402942

I'm trying out JACK with Quake. Am I retarded, or can you just not skew textures like in Trenchbroom?
Geometry tools are fucking great though.

>>8403175
never used it, but I see a tickbox "align world", try changing to "face"

>>8402942
>It'd only work with a game or mod that shows you where enemies are
You can technically do that without a mod with "iddt".

>>8402082
the best thing a smt x doom crossover can do is acknowledge the rpg series
not just because they're turn based but even some rpg enemies are named after mythological creatures, even if most of them are recolors
also, the holy water pistol
>>8402470
when zenimax still tells romero he can't release some doom history stuff, that means they still remember when he got pissed that carmack sold id to them

i know the nigger running quake_txt lurks here
go fuck yourself you maymay stealing faggot

>>8403192
Nope, doesn't help. It looks like I can do what I need by skewing another brush with UV lock on then projecting the texture, but that's a pain if I have to do it a lot.

>>8403175
You absolutely can skew in JACK, it's an option called 'preserve UV' on the toolbar

>>8403354
I think he meant skewing the coordinates with geometry remaining in place. alt-dragging in trenchbroom, though I barely ever use it myself.

>>8403396
Yes, that's what I meant. I know I can skew brushes with texture lock, but that isn't really viable with primitives (like arches being used to make a spiral) unless I'm missing something. I can project the texture from another skewed brush, but I figured there would be an easier way.

>>8403415
yeah for more niche construction like that that's a bit rough

>>8403415
can't you extend coordinates to adjacent faces? in TB you'd just shift+alt+drag over the entire thing in one click.

>>8403438
Kinda... but it's weird. It's giving me the correct angles on a brush of the same size, but just not aligned (easy to fix I guess). On a smaller brush it's just kinda fucked (bottom of pic). It seems like I'll have to make an equal length brush, skew it about right, and project again from there.

off-topic but what do you thinks think about Doom 2016? I just got it as a gift, I think my PC is good enough to run it so I'll be playing it soon

>>8403567
It's fine, but a lot of its deviations from the standard id shooter mold felt like gimmicks and those design decisions (weapon mods, glory kills, ledge climbing, chainsaw ammo pinata) wouldn't be fully realized as core to the experience until Eternal. I will say that even before Eternal released, some of those things made a lot more sense in arcade mode. What are normally inconveniences (glory kills, overkill alt-fires) now reward points, justifying their use.

>>8403567
it isn't as off topic as you think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nb5kqv3aMZM

>>8403567
I appreciate it for bringing back "boomer shooters" into the lime light, but it's just straight up a bad game. It's not even worth your time
Play the also not-retro Ultrakill instead.

>>8403601
They really ported the classic maps? Cool

>>8403613
Some of them and they aren't perfect, some music are wrong, some ground that should damage doesn't, small shit like that. Good reference though I like it

>>8403567
It's decent, better than Eternal zoomerfest imo
But classic Doom it's not.

>>8403613
They're embarrassingly poor ports. Textures mapped upside down, lighting practically gone, next to zero account for differences in game balance (enjoy the slow spinup on that chaingun against faster enemies, no we're not going to give the far more useful assault rifle.) They're a decent idea for a secret collectible, but not worth playing.

>>8403613
You're better off playing a Doom 4 themed mod on the actual WADs instead of playing Doom 4 if you're wanting that.
Some of those mods are really good.

>>8403567
i think the new doom's are alright and have cool stuff about them
i like that they inspired mods for the classic doom's

>>8403567
It’s lacking a lot while also the closest we may get to a “proper modern Doom”, for what it’s worth. Both of the newer ones are at least very pretty.

>Arthurian Legend got a performance update
YES! YES!

>>8403567
its a great game,fun fast DOOM action,its not totally like old DOOM,but it respects the legacy alot and that allows it to live up to the mantle,and it basically revived the boomer shooter genre (as far as full games are concerned,and not just WADs and mods).
eternal is also fun,even more than 2016,but it goes in a more unique and somewhat quakish direction,its initially weird,but very fun to me,but im a zoom zoom so disregard my opinion.

>>8403839
DNF is more of a boomer shooter than Doom 2016

>>8403852
>DNF
i refuse to play duke nukem forever cause its clear shit and not nearly as good as any part of the real duke3D, so i wont argue.

>>8403623
>chainsaw candy ammo
>retarded super powers
>downgraded enemies design
>fanfiction tier capeshit story
>some shitty platform threw in for some reason
>Doom 2016: If an enemy has a head, it's a weak spot. Eternal: Pic related
It was such a letdown.

>>8402239
Sigil looks like a legit official mapset with canonic adventure. Not because Romero made it, just has those things other mapsets don't have. Even stuff like Ancient Aliens feels like a spin off, not something authentic. The only poor map was the secret level, that felt like an user level, but it had the best midi for compensation.

Wait a minute, is it possible to make this stuff on the old Q2 Radiant tools?

>>8395907
Doom Mod Collection got a big update: https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5755611

Please someone release it
This is Doom history.

>>8403784
Good to hear, it was pretty much unplayable for me at launch.

>>8403920
>Doom 2016: If an enemy has a head, it's a weak spot. Eternal: Pic related
Whats wrong with having more variety in weak spots?

>>8404129
I hope it's enough to fix it for good.

>>8403941
why not? sock made his AD maps with radiant

>>8404180
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4092/new-quake-2-mod-return?page=4
people always said that the old tooks and forks were crap, but this is impressive.

Even the dynamic light of the tubes.
It reminds me of Doom 3 Alpha Labs

>>8404136
Some do have some weak spots on 2016, but you have to figure on your own. On Eternal they simply hand you some sort of bestiary and basically force you to switch weapons constantly, since some of them simply will do jack shit damage on some enemies for whatever bullshit reason. I just don't like it, I prefer the 2016 way that lets you use the weapon you want, on the enemy you want, and simply punishes you with ammo scarcity if you just use the super shotgun or something like that.

There is no bad Doom game

>>8404214
I guess. I don't want to play any however except for some wads.

>>8404136
It breeds memes like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3k23NEMwOQ

>>8404213
not him but i respectfully disagree
i prefer the complexity of eternal,just using the SSG gets a bit stale relative to eternal,where you have to deal with each enemy differently,you can use the SSG alot,they made it nice and strong in eternal (im pretty sure its meatshots are stronger than the rocket launcher),but its not the end-all weapon like it is in 2016.
and after playing eternal,2016 gets really easy,cause you can quick swap,but the enemies have no answer to it.
even barons just fall after using SSG + ballista or rocket launcher combo so easily.
(and im not calling 2016 bad,its really good,and its effects are even better,and its the only DOOM game to mix good atmosphere with great gameplay,i just like eternal more)

>>8403567
It's not retro, I enjoyed it, but to keep my reply strictly on the topic of retro gaming I'll say that it does nothing particularly new or better than classic with mods. The first thing I thought when I played it was that it felt like Brutal Doom. Doom 2016 actually marks a turning point in my life where I decided modern games have nothing to offer me personally. I started looking back to the games I enjoyed decades ago instead.

>>8403567

It's very good, for what it is, but it misses the mark of living up to classic Doom. The mechanics are a matter of taste, but it is undeniably a very polished and well made game. I certainly can't call them bad, but personally I think it (and Eternal) had a couple of key flaws that let it down.

The arena-style monster encounters and combat driven resource management get old real fast. The flow of the game becomes repetitive very quickly, and more importantly, it makes level design all but irrelevant. The environments don't inform the action, they're just differently shaped and coloured arenas. The only exploration is for secrets, but the secrets don't matter, because they're all just arbitrary trinkets, not items that matter to gameplay like extra ammo or health pick ups.

If you look at the reason classic Doom is so enduringly popular after all these years, it's the wealth of maps that constantly find new ways to make the same old concept of guns, monsters, and keycards interesting. Level design is the very core of what holds Doom up after all these years, with exploration and pacing being central to the experience. This is the key aspect the modern franchise is missing; the "rip and tear" meme is all well and good, but when you translate that to a 8-12 hour long campaign, it's already wearing thin by the half way mark.

Nu-Doom is a competent game, but it had no lasting appeal to anybody other than speedrunning autists and Dark Souls difficulty junkies. I played it once, and while I greatly enjoyed it, that was enough. I didn't bother with the expansions, and I don't think I'll ever feel compelled to revisit it.

>>8404214
>There is no bad Doom game
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Mighty_Doom
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/TNT:_Evilution

>>8404230
SSG is not that OP in higher difficulties, it's actually kinda shit if you are a bit over 2 meters away from the enemy (fully upgraded won't even one shot imps) so it actually balances out, since you have to risk HP to deal damage. It's good for one-shooting weak enemies and dealing lots of damage to slow ones, but I would always switch to something else for other stuff. But yeah, it's what will be on your hand most of the time and I like it this way. It's basically the shotgun equivalent of 2016.

>>8404224
Fuck, my sides. It's like that one webm but non-ironic.

>>8404263
Master Levels?

>>8404270
>Master Levels?
Almost forgot about that.

>>8404270
>Master Levels?
Not a standalone game, it requires Doom 2.

>>8404267
i play 2016 on UV and its always one shot imps,in my experience.
you can use other weapons,but the shotgun always feels like the best choice,even more than in the classic games.
it can be fun,but not the most balanced,eternal makes the SSG strong,amazing close-range damages,armor giving fire grapple-hook for good measure,but not always the best.

anybody knows in what wad is the secret sound that plays here found?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-Fos25pwzM
I wanna rip it out and use it in my own mod but I cant fucking find it
I downloaded several Brutal Doom forks and also the BD v21 official but I cant find THAT specific secret sound
can anybody help me please?

>>8404214
Doom 3. And dont say "its a good game, just not a good Doom game". Its not fun or well-designed as a game of any genre or franchise.

>>8404371
it's a pretty good fear game actually

>>8404389
lol

>>8404371

It's a good game and a good Doom game.

Zoomers hate Doom 3 because it's not muh rip'n'tear, but the truth is if you remember playing Doom back in the day when FPS games in general were still new and exciting, it was fucking pants shittingly scary. For a long time, FPS games were almost automatically horror games too, just because the immersion of playing from first person was enough to put you on edge. It's only in the past 10-15 years (since the advent of CoD, Halo, etc) that this really changed.

Doom 3 capitalised on the horror aspect instead of the over the top action, because they thought that's what people remembered it for, and they weren't entirely wrong.

>>8404343
it's a sound from painkiller

>>8404371
I liked the setting and tone, just not the gameplay gluing it. It was easy to configure during its initial release so I tried to make do best I could, it was the latest and prettiest Doom game for what it was worth. With the newest one the series has gone towards the opposing extreme: More engaging gameplay, weirder tone, and the furthest they’ve gone from embracing user content. I’ve come to accept they’re there when I’m craving production value, as I otherwise share the same sentiments as >>8404250

>>8404395
Thats exactly the thing. Its not scary or atmospheric. Theres one actually good jumpscare (you know which moment) and then a million "enemy spawns behind you lol" moments.

>>8404395
zoomer here,but whats scary about DOOM3,im a wimp when it comes to horror,and i maybe lightly jumped once.
is it just something that doesn't age well?

>>8404330
Only at close range. Grapple-hook is another thing that I hated in Eternal, fucking gay shit. I'm not Scorpion. But well, that's just my opinion, I really prefer the 2016 approach to nu-doom.

>>8404423

By today's standards, no. In 2004? Totally different matter.

It wasn't trying to be Eternal Darkness or Call of Cthulu, but it got some pretty tense atmosphere, and of course and you couldn't see shit. Back then that was enough.

Going back today it seems tame, but looking back as a grown adult, the only game from those times that still spooks me is Stalker.

>>8404424
did you play the version where flashlight is a weapon you have to switch to or the mounted one?

>>8404423
I’m a huge fan of its atmosphere, are you sure you’re not just being vehemently against it?

>>8404446
Not him but I started playing the original with pitch black shadows and standalone weapon and ended up dropping it because it was really annoying. Is the BFG version better?

>>8404403
yeah but which mod actually uses it from where I can rip it out using SLADE?

>>8404441
the first shot was a partial miss and the other one was a one shot.
and the grapple works well for the combat loop about engagement,its good bonus mobility to push forward.

>>8404424

Mostly just age. You have to remember that those graphics were practically photo-realistic for the time too.

It's kinda like that thing where old timey folks jumped out of the way when they saw a film of a train coming towards them. If you played Doom 3 on release, you would have never seen such a detailed zombie in such a realistic environment.

Like even Quake 1 scared me as a kid. Partially just because I was a kid, but man that game had atmosphere thick as butter, and we weren't all wizards with WASD + mouse controls back then either, most people hadn't even caught onto that yet. The whole game was just more intimidating.

>>8404446
mounted,i played the BFG edition.
>>8404482
thanks,and quake is amazing,awesome atmosphere,butter smooth combat,one of the first shooters i liked after DOOM.

>>8404441
i think the idea works well in bulletstorm and recently in halo, kinda, Halo is still fucking boring as shit.

But yeah its really gay. It would be great if you could use it as a chain whip, to grapple enemies.

I really felt no emotion playing Eternal, its so meh, I feel like this team wants to make a devil may cry game.

Then fucking make it and call it Heretic 3 or Hexen, multiple classes, combos, lets do it.

>>8404482
For a 10 year old or a 12 it would be a bit scary. Same for many mediocre modern shit like dad space, if you are young enough its kinda tense.
I remember Quake 1 and Thief making me piss my pants especially Thief.

>>8404526
they didn't really want to make devil may cry,they wanted to evolve DOOM further cause they got bored with 2016s combat flow (they had probably been playing it all day every day since a few months after they abandoned doom4/call of doomy) in 2018,so they experimented with enhancing engagement and they kept doing it and experimenting til they had eternals gameplay,which they where happy with.

>>8404480
Anon, are you blind? First shot was a close shot, second was a far shot that barely did any damage, third was a far shot and fourth was a far shot that did very little damage despite hitting the same enemy that was already damaged on the second shot, and killed the one affected by the third shot.
But yeah I know how it works but I really don't like it.

>>8404526
I feel like they just started implementing crap from modern fps games to broaden the user base. Doom 2016 was good but even at the time it felt like a bit niche

>>8404441
Grappling hook in a shooter like this? I'm fine with the concept, and in the new Doom it's one of the few alt fires that doesn't feel like you're aiming down the sight and pulling the trigger, it goes off when you press alt fire. Would've liked it on a different weapon or at least have its use be independent of any weapons, character design could easily accommodate for it.
I'm looking forward to when I get to the one in Violent Rumble, been too busy the past few days.
>>8404526
>I feel like this team wants to make a devil may cry game.
Yes and for what it's worth I think it's worked out for them, Doom is now with the "cuh-razy" and flashy action games for better and worse

>>8403852
DNF has 2 weapon limit, and it is so linear that it makes Doom 2016 look like open world. I really wanted to like that game, but it's just shit.

>>8402470
Sigil is as official fifth episode as any pwad can be. It was first wad to be added on Unity port along with other official expansions. I see it as an official fifth episode.

>>8404591
The mix of platforming and quick kills just reminds me of a darksiders type game, down to the silly art.

>>8404593
I wish they at least tried making a DMC type game, plat games can be hit or miss in tone but I like their approach and desu I like the simplicity of souls games can be a bit overbearing.

Maybe a vanquish type game would be cool as well.

bruh
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/782330/view/3113673641597766168

>>8404638
what the fuck are these dlcs lmao
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/782330/view/2971794942848973777
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/782330/view/3008947103098452958

Checked /vr/ again today after being few months out. Nice to see that Violent Rumble got finally done. I tried it, and it's very fucking good. Gonna play rest of it tomorrow. It's kind of /vr/'s own AD in terms of content and quality. Big thanks for everyone involved in the project. You have made a piece of Quake history. And of course biggest thanks for ViolentRumble anon for orchestrating the whole mod.

>>8404614
Not until the levels are inside the iwad.

>>8404638
>>8404642
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1460021/DOOMicorn_Master_Collection_Cosmetic_Pack/

>>8404583
all the shots looked far or a partial miss to me.
and idk what the problem with the meat-hook,its not what id expect for a new ability,but it works,especially for such a close range weapon
>>8404642
most of the skins are not worth using (though i like the classic DOOMguy skin),id have to agree with that,they're mostly stupid.

>>8404648
You can always put them in there, hehe.

>>8404654
The point was that SSG is not that useful if you aren't close, specially on higher difficulties (that was Hurt me plenty btw). So no, it's not a panacea, just really good if you use it right.

So I started a mapping project like a few months back. Got 2 pretty nice detailed levels done for it, playtested them a bunch and I think I managed to get them pretty tight. Now I'm starting on the third, but man I'm just running dry of ideas.

I wanted to make like, this cool flowing Castlevania style mini episode where you start off outdoors in some dark forest area, then you go up into this castle, then through a portal inside the castle into hell for a big finale. Turns out I'm good at making the outdoor areas and caves and all that shit, but I suck at making indoor areas that aren't just boring square rooms and corridors.

How do you make indoor levels that don't suck, Anon? How do you come up with interesting layouts and shit? Got any cool castle keep//dungeon/library etc style maps that might give me some inspiration?

caco should not have interrupted my donuts coffee and cigarette break

>>8404697
that's a big cup

>>8404695
If you make player travel through the same room many times in different direction, it automatically makes it more interesting.

>>8404698
Im a big boi

>>8404614
>>8402470
Who cares? Does your experience with the wad retroactively change if Bethesda Inc says "its official"?

>>8404695
Look at Ad Mortem if you want some examples.

Anybody got Codename Eagle with working music?

>>8404689
it does so at the cost of all the other weapons,its almost always the right answer,unless you quick swap and obliterate them with overwhelming force,and im actually surprised that was HMP,i remember HMP being even easier,so good point there.

>>8395907
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126184
> [RELEASE] Jonathan's Arcade Mapping Project #1: No HOM November

>>8404642
>>8404649
Hugo said that the game wasn't going to have microtransactions at all, so lo and behold, they started repackaging old seasonal FOMO events and selling them. Seems a bit ironic, calling the game "Eternal."

At least the spirit of Doom modding lives on in the new generation, and they've figured out that cracking all the skins for offline use is easier than expected.

>>8404224
>A BLOOO BLOO BLOO Having specific weakspots in a DOOM makes it more likely for memes I hate to come to fruition!
PLEASE, how petty can you be. I have yet to play Eternal, but I don't see any real problem with having weakpoints in more strategic areas , overall. I do know at least some of what to expect and brace for in the DLCs for Eternal., though.

>>8404792
Hmmm... I wonder if mod support for Doom Eternal exists in the Xbox One and PS4 versions.

>>8404808
it doesn't,but it works on linux flawlessly,surprisingly enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeIouxOJ4-k
the music kinda hurts

so, the cacowards are tomorrow. What do you think should/will be included?

>>8404918
Heartland in one form or another

>>8404918
Doom II in Spain Only will probably win.

>>8404918
Here's hoping Auger Zenith gets mentioned in some way.

Bloodrayne or Bloodlines?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2wqQs7ADp8

are pinky tasty as they say

>>8404983
At best, it's going to get a runner-up like Cyb's Freaky Colonoscopy.

Reminder that both Duke Nukem and Serious Sam are part of the EDF.

>>8405038
How do they make the Vile stronger without it just being faster?

>>8405052
I'm kinda ashamed that I've played more Sam than Duke.

>>8405038
>no proof of concept
>grating zoomer "music"
3/10 I clicked it.

>>8405052
I haven’t seen them fight any giant ants

>>8405113
That comes later.

>>8405038
>that recommend video on the side
Well.
Interesting.

>>8405138
Looks beastly ...

>>8405091
The fire hurts.

>>8405153
God reading that makes me fucking ill.

Which is /vr/ favorite port?
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Commercial_games

>>8405174
What's your opinion on Half Life?

>>8405192
Good.
Now answer the question or your mother will not sleep very well tonight.

I don't see Quake in the Game Awards

Is it okay if I play Goldeneye & Jet Force Gemini with a mouse?

>Summer fun anon hasn't posted in months
>Anon plays shitwads stopped streaming, taking the shitwad gang with him
>Captain Mozzarella fell off the face of the earth despite working on spriting projects and having ambitious plans
>Alex and MacGuffin haven't been seen for weeks (their servers are still going however)
>All of this within a year
Wherever you all are now, I hope you're doing well, you glorious sons of bitches.

>>8405153
If they don't nerf the ending explosive damage then JESUS FUCK NO WHY WOULD YOU EVEN SUGGEST THAT WHAT THE FUCK

I'm surprised nobody has taken a stab at a mobster/wiseguy shooter. Blood (Powerslave too?) have Tommy guns but the settings are too different. You could even have a Miller's Crossing reference when you get an infinite ammo powerup.

>>8405306
I think Fallen Aces might scratch that itch for you. There's a demo out, so why not give it a try?

>>8405298
Judge Dredd anon

>>8405309
The artstyle is a little Archer-ish for my tastes but it definitely fits. Might download it later.

>>8405318
I remembered him after I made that post. Turok anon, too. A handful of 2048 mappers also seemed to have dipped despite showing real promising talent. I hope they're doing well.

>>8405320
I think the art is amateurish on cutscenes, the girl looks terrible. But where are all the decent artist on the west these days? Making commission smut more likely.

>>8405306
kingpin?
>>8405318
has a map in ad mortem

>>8395907
>just noticed that I've been archiving the news for five years now

What the fuck

Cacowards up.

>>8405398
Why does it feel like these are happening earlier every year? Anyway, I see xaser won the espi award and I do not disagree in the slightest.

>>8405138
What's the status on an actual Doom Eternal mod? All I know is that DBT has been working on one with occasional updates, and the EoA guy said he'll be doing one using his mod as a base.

>>8405398
what they're.... signed off by major arlene?

i watched her stream once and she struggled for 5 minutes to beat one solitary revenant.

um, that's the person choosing cacowards?

>>8405419
She's *a* judge and writer but not the be-all end-all authority. There's multiple judges and writers.
Also, I really like the silver cacos. There's so much quality content being produced that 10 cacowards isn't enough to acknowledge it all.

>>8405398
uhh, where the fuck is microslaughter community project? it was hugely influential already; e.g., the haste creators originally set out to make something similar.

did they just forget MSCP ???

>>8404395
Doom 3 is an evolution of Doom 64, Doom '16 is an evolution of Doom 2

>>8404602
>DNF has 2 weapon limit
They upped that to four, meaning you can have as many weapons as in Hexen. It's still kinda shitty.

>>8405424
it's in the "21 more for 2021" list

>DBP37 wins a silver caco
>Lunchlunch got a direct mention
Good job anon. I don't think this is the last we'll be seeing of you in the cacowards

>>8405438
lunchlunch makes glorious maps, i enjoyed everything he did in 2048 units of /vr/ and know his name from there (but should have known it sooner)

>>8405398
Auger;Zenith got a Cacoward, despite efforts to get it and other DBF projects swept under the rug

>>8405456
A silver caco, mind you.
Also, before anyone asks, ad mortem got no mention

>>8405398
>Xaser wins an Espi
>Corruption cards gets a gameplay award

Good.

>>8405462
To be fair, it had some really crappy maps in it.

>>8405456
didn't realize DW's ban on DBF was lifted not long after it was applied.
No wonder it doesn't seem to be causing a stir..

It's Doom birthday.

>>8405515
Happy birthday, Doom.

>>8405515
HAOPPY BIRTHDAY

>>8402705
Most of them have some gamepad support, but only GzDoom has actually good gamepad support.

>>8405394
Life is short man. John Romero was in his fucking 20s when he made Doom and Quake. Get out of here while you can, or at the least participate in some mapping projects.

>>8404371
It's a good Doom game.

>>8404371
We can all agree that it has a really shitty regular shotgun.
Why the FUCK does it load 2 shells at a time instead of 1 on every difficulty?

>>8405580
I wouldn't even question the 2 shells thing if the animation reflected it.
https://youtu.be/PMVURZm4W4Y?t=44
That spread is still unforgivable.

>>8405462
The /vr/ humor being in Ad Mortem and the obvious first maps meant it'll never get mentioned. Sucks for the good mappers involved in it.

>>8405620
It wasn't even eligible in the first place, since project lead said that there are gonna be more maps. They don't award incomplete mapsets.

>>8405462
It isn't even finished, of course it wouldn't

>>8404918
Combined arms.

>>8405609
look in one of the game's mirrors while reloading

>>8405686
No luck. Corruption cards got in though.

>>8405693
fug.

>>8405661
This.

Ad Mortem 2 next year though.

Infested got an award. That's really cool.

For me it's E1M3.

>>8404918
Brutal Doom Platinum
EDay Vanilla
Project Brutality 3 glory kill addon

>>8405398
Made it into 21. My life's work culminated into this.

>>8405174
Gut instinct is to say Doom 64, but that's more of an all new game, so I will say the Unity port running on my PS4. Very authentic to the original game, along with the quality of life upgrades that matter, as well as free level packs showing up periodically.
Wish they would add the option to configure your own controls though, if they did, then it would truly be the most perfect console port of the original games.

>>8405875
tied with ribbiks and mscp lol

>>8405620
whatever, they skipped 2048 units of /vr/ too, and that had some truly insane maps (black crest).

for what it's worth, awards are retarded in everything, not just the doom community

>>8405965
>awards are retarded in everything, not just the doom community
This is true, but not because 2048 and AM didn't win.

>>8405398
First impressions:
- A lot of stuff I haven't even heard about. Infested? Old Still Life? What even is this?
- Cool idea with the silver cacos and additional 21 recs. They should make something like this last year. But better late than never, I guess.
- Very happy for Doomer Boards, they deserved the award for sure.
- Arlene didn't give herself an award this time, and Death's Dichotomy goes into the trash bin, where it belongs. Not even in 21, heh.
- Overall, very decent picks this time around. Apparently, Omniarch is a much better judge than autist NotJabba. Didn't notice Manrisa either, which is a good thing for sure.
- Sad to see no mention of HFFM, but we all know the reason for that, aren't we?

>>8406024
I'm glad they put in haste; i figured they'd get completely filtered, and probably most of them didn't play it at all, and put it in due to the prestigious mappers

fractured worlds was a shoe-in, but similarly, most probably didn't play it and just ooh-ah'd at the visuals

not to trash on it but has anyone played heartland past the initial release? it seems to have vanished.

meanwhile i have been enjoying, saying, fractured worlds since the first beta.

>>8406024
I think marisa's gone because of her melodramatic twitter meltdown over abandon lol
I like how they're adding more space for projects with the silver cacus and 21 for 2021 section. There's also multiple dootawards now too. It's the logical response to the ever-growing stream of quality content this community is blessed with.