/vr/ - Retro Games

i wish anime was real, I want an anime gf
i usual date girls with cartoony proportions and dress, heh

>phwoar
Fuck off bongland

>>8402224
>implying lads mad lingo in video game magazines wasn't a good thing

Helped keep females out.

>>8402213
If you look to the left of Cammy's hip, there a name listed.
Looks like it's an original art by Steve Kyte, who according to my brief Google session seems to be a British comic book artist who is skilled in imitating the Japanese style.

>>8402243
oh wow, that's actually really good it had me fooled. It captures that Japanese 90's art style well. I assumed it was SF2 the movie promo art.

>>8402275
It appears that Steve Kyte was a co-founder of Anime UK magazine and he provided his original art for it. Respect for the man.

>>8402243
>>8402285
The early british anime scene sure was something, compared to America's simultaneous "UGH nobody wants to buy that big eyed cartoon shit" and "IT'S NOT JUST CARTOONS FOR KIDS IT'S GUNS AND GORE" attitude.

>>8402285
That's beautiful. I hope it's all scanned and preserved.

>>8402285
It's pretty good but the shape and angle of the eyes give it away.

>>8402291
>>8402285
I genuinely love this, it reminds me of the anime scene over here in tacoland from back then and the early 00's.

>>8402213
The spaghetti cannon is a good weapon, only makes sense that a special ops sort would use one.

>>8402296
Eh, still sticks the landing better than Adam Warren's attempts at the time.

>>8402321
Somehow makes me think of Saber Marionette J.

>>8402321
The fuk is wrong with his hand?

>>8402291
>early 90s magazine with strong focus on imports and anime inspired art
>in the U.K. where the Amiga and mega drive were king

How niche is this

>>8402296
Apparently he drew this too and it looks like it was hit or miss. Some days it was good, some days not so much

>>8402452
Honestly, it happens. Drawing is a bitch, sometimes you really gotta be in the zone.

>>8402213
Art looks really good but somethings off, compared to say he design in the anime movie. That and the beretta make me think its not by capcom

>>8402438
trypophobia except it's papercuts

>>8402514
The face kills the immersion, that's not a face a 1990s Japanese studio would make

>>8402213
cummy

>>8402367
>Saber Marionette J
Based

>>8402213
Cammy on the cover was always attention grabbing. It is very close to the movie art but the great sleuthing by >>8402243 does reveal a very interesting art history.

>>8402213
>The Daedalus Encounter
Oh god, oh shit.

>>8402976
careful with these notes, between this and your last post in the Odama thread you're getting awfully close to reddit cringe

>>8402291
Super Play was the best mag, man. That's a Will Overton cover, btw

>>8402448
It was not niche. Super play was sold everywhere. Popular magazine at the time (in terms of games journalism anyway)

https://imgur.com/a/0M5b3

>>8402213
That's actually some badass art of Cammy.

cute note

>>8402291
GamePro and Super Play were the shit when I was still able to get erections..

>>8403174
>that eyeliner
It’s the little things.

>>8403501
>those booba
It's the big things

>>8403501
>those rocks
It’s the brittle things

>>8403501

>>8402321
zero looks alright, but what the fuck is going on with X? that's not even his helmet.

>>8403638
>X
C'mon now

>>8403638
>X

>>8403642
oh its THAT megaman. why is he posed with zero then?

>>8403665

>>8403676
>megaman legends is the main attraction
>yet zero is on the cover

>>8402438
What's wrong with YOUR fucking hand?!
You wouldn't say that to Jeremy Beadle. For Christs sake.

>>8403174
>swimsuit special
>they blocked a Chun-Li butt shot, with all that full hippage going on
COWARDS!

>>8402321
>mega man neo

huh?

>>8403704
Zero is like the wolverine of megaman.

>>8402296
Just barely. It’s very subtle and I only noticed it when you pointed it out. But otherwise I assumed it was from the sf2 movie

>>8404040
Mega Man Neo/Rockman Neo was the project's codename before they settled with Legends/DASH

>>8403665
>>8403642
Did you know the Japanese version of Legends 2 alludes to the possibility of Volnutt being X? (Or a replica of him)

>>8404138
That's fucking retarded. X retired to cyberspace.

>>8404147
Legends 2 was written before MMZ, supposedly Model X being a portable database of X's documentation would've fixed it. All we know is that Geetz in DASH 2 goes "So the best Hunter has finally gone Maverick" and in the flashbacks him and Sera are salty the Master hangs out with "such an old robot", and about Trigger being the only one with true free will while everyone (Mothers, Servitons, Juno) else is tied to the System.

X is dead and retired to Cyberspace, but it's not too farfetched they could've given Model X a body of his own as he holds the ideals of the original. Plus Vent and Aile being intentionally designed to resemble Volnutt.

>>8404164
Legends' strange connections with the X series go too far sometimes for the sake of continuity. It's X's mind who makes him who he is, not the schematics (which was replicated in, well, Reploids). If Volnutt really was X he would definitely recall everything he's seen up to that point in the far future of Legends. In fact it'd be far more fitting for him to be Rock.

>>8403630

>>8403116
Please, leave Reddit-kun alone! He may be a larper, but it's OUR larper.

>>8402213
>phwoar
???

>>8402216
>i usual date girls
Come on, Anon, at least try to make a convincing lie

>>8402967
It's a great show, I can see why Lime was No. 1 waifu on that 90's poll in Japan despite competing against Rei Ayami and Lina Inverse.

>>8404309
Although let us not forget, Reploids are not 1:1 to X, they always had flaws which led to the first wave of Mavericks on top of the virus broadcasted from an ancient computer.

That said, Master Thomas in the cliffhanger for ZXA does claim "what do you think happened to the ORIGINAL Reploid Data", I always wondered if he was alluding to the fact he had obtained X's documentation, either from Dr. Light's notes, or Ciel's own notes when she created Copy X, the only reploid to be 1:1 to X.

>>8402367
>>8404890
J is a little episodic. J to X is better IMO, and Bloodberry becomes a much more likable character.

>>8404905
I think J is perfect to jump in, besides it being the first series. Everyone is so likelable even after the first episode one gets used to OBARI faces.

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>>8404897
>I always wondered if he was alluding to the fact he had obtained X's documentation
If that translation is 1:1 then he's most likely referencing Dr. Cain's original Reploid schematics. Stuff that led to the creation of Sigma. It's stressed a few times that, while Reploids are copies of X, X himself is not a Reploid, as he is not replicated from anyone. X remains unanalyzable after all, and I don't think Cain ever let anyone touch Light's notes after he found them.

>>8404939
The character designs were done by Tsukasa Kotobuki. I met him at a convention almost twenty years ago, he signed a few items of mine, and gave everybody a free character sketch of their choice. Really nice guy, though I've since lost (was stolen) his artbook that he signed and drew Lime in for me.

>>8404948
However, according to MMZ's backstory both in the Japanese Rockman Zero Collection website (the DS one) by Inti Creates, and Mega Man Zero Official Complete Works, Ciel was the first person who was able to fully understand Dr. Light's documentation and create a 1:1 replica of X. They even explain her genius as her being a designer's baby experimented on as an embryo by his Great Grandmother (Dr. Weil's co-worker in charge of analyzing the Virus and Zero's cognitive program, the woman responsible for the Mother Elf). The government clearly still had by Zero notes on everything, even their computer screens in Area X-2 identify Omega as "Dr. W No. Infinity" although very pixelated. Ciel went missing/probably died when Serpent went Maverick due to Model W, so probably her documentation became lost until Thomas found them.
As for X, I agree with you, neither X nor Zero are reploids, but they keep calling themselves as such, and story-wise X doesn't even know of his origins until after X1. IIRC the japanese books say he was awoken when reploid society was already more or less formed. Only Sigma knew of X's origin as the source (since supposedly Sigma was the first Reploid Cain created according to the Japanese canon).

Mega Man lore is fun.

Funny enough, Inti recycled the "designers baby" plot in Gunvolt to explain Joule's existence and why they could force into her the Muse/Cyber Diva septima on her.

>>8404960
Oh man sorry to hear that.

>>8404960
This was the artbook.

>>8404970
Just one of the things I lost. I met Tomino too, and he signed a Turn A Gundam cel of the Turn A itself using the Gundam hammer in that one episode (ep.8?). Losing that pissed me off a LOT. Like I said, Kotobuki signed a couple of things for me, including a SMJ cel of Cherry, and a free sketch of Cherry to go with it, both of which I still have. Tomino also signed a Char's Counterattack movie poster which I still have as well. I really need to get these things properly framed.

>>8404963
Copy X was a perfect hardware copy, yes, but the project was ultimately a failure, not too different from Cain's endeavors, hence why it's X's consciousness that really makes him non-replicable in the end.
>japanese books say he was awoken when reploid society was already more or less formed
That's an interesting detail that I haven't seen a decision on. You or at least I think it was you suggested that Cain presented multiple technological breakthroughs to the world by studying X and translating some of his functions into different applications as to make the government more amiable and open to reintroducing robotics after the ban, but wasn't X's capsule sealed with no way of even studying his design while he was in there? His awakening was long overdue, too.

>>8405007
I've been posting way too much Mega Man lore ever since I got ahold scans of various books like Chou Hyakka, so it might've been me back on June or August. I've been on a 'tism binge.

The books don't explain this but given the bullshit analysis technology in the Mega Man series (an Operator being capable of remote analyzing from her desk's computer without an specified method to performing such analysis), it's not exactly imposible for Cain to have X's capsule in his laboratory and study X without the need to opening him yet (or awakening him, whichever the case)

The novel Irregular Report goes a bit further on detail but that's dubious canon because, as fascinating of a book it is, it also contradicts a few things (it presents Alpha as a first reploid created by Cain, while in the Japanese games' lore, it was Sigma who was the first to be created).

That said, Capcom Japan sent Taicom some stuff on Sigma before he went Maverick for X DiVE. Now, X DiVE being made by Taicom has it's fair share of contradictions to the core series, but it's interesting non-Maverick Sigma is presented as the politest guy ever.

>>8404972
>>8405001
Fuck, man. I feel for you.

>>8405103
Sigma being the first reploid sounds a bit off-beat, given his extremely high combat rating and specifications in comparison to other Hunters. I think him being the last of Cain's reploids makes more sense, especially since the Maverick Hunters didn't exist until Reploids started going Maverick, so Sigma would've likely turned Maverick before Cain created the Hunters. Did Taicom reveal any extra lore on the series?
I wish I had access to all the extra material. All the times we've discussed things I've been going from memory of the games aline.

>>8402321
Adam Warren genuinely loves anime with a passion but man he can't draw that style for shit.

>>8405136
Taicom has done nothing but contradictions, so don't regard them much. It's just they happened to at least show us how Sigma might've been like before he became the de facto host of the virus (assuming the Virus didn't completely overwrite and replace the true Sigma after X1)

I agree with your assessment, but from what I've read various Japanese sources (the Japanese translation of Cain's diary, X7's manual, assorted guidebooks) call Sigma Cain's "first Reploid". Not Number one reploid, but Cain's first. So make of that what you will.

It's a bit of a shame, though, because I always assumed the reason the virus bonded with Sigma of all people was because of the X1 US manual saying Sigma had the most advanced electronic brain of all reploids, unable to go Maverick.

>>8405151
Maybe he made Sigma first, but kept him unfinished and went off to work on other reploids before coming back and completing Sigma with better know-how from other reploid testbeds. Thus making Sigma his first creation and his last completed project at the same time. I still like the idea that Sigma had the most success with the virus due to already being sick and tired of killing his own robotic siblings because of human error. Most other reploids just suffer and act hesitantly when infected, but Sigma just embraced it when it suddenly allowed him to break free from his limited freedom.

>>8405171
It is completely possible Sigma was the first reploid to be fed up with being a second class citizen and the virus helped whatever programmed restraint to cease. The virus changes a reploid's disposition and brings the worst out of them (because Zero was already created evil, it had the opposite effect on him, though).

Dr. Firefly and Dr. Jim supposedly were peaceful scientists but once infected they turned violent, with Firefly using that violence in search of forbidden knowledge. Of course in-universe, the government keeps pushing the narrative Reploids can't oppose humans on their own, that if any reploid says otherwise (like Repliforce) said reploid is malfunctioning and must be put down. Weil in his youth resented this lie, it's why he decided to use the Mother Elf to control all reploid population, echoing what the head director of the RIT told a young Thomas Light, "robots are just tools, nothing more".

>>8405190
>Dr. Firefly
Dr. Izzy Glow? I think he was just a laser scientist who didn't want anybody touching his shit. Didn't he go maverick on the spot when X arrived?

>>8405208
Yep, him. Remember though, the virus brings out the worst on Reploids like Sigma, he already shows frustration that no one can analyze X nor Zero and wants to be the first. Gate has the same, coupled with resentment that his creations are killed because "lesser scientists" couldn't fully analyze Gate's designs, but they let X and Zero roam about freely.

And add Axl to the mix. All we know is that Red found him in a capsule somewhere, and later Axl served as a template for next-gen reploids, but other than that his past is unknown (although Axl frankly doesn't seem to care either).

>>8404905
>fucking obari at it again
He’s obsessed with boob windows I swear to god

>>8405001
>signed cel of the best Gundam series by based god Tomino
Jesus Christ, anon. I’m so sorry. That’s got to be a real kick in the balls

>>8405001
>I met Tomino too, and he signed a Turn A Gundam cel of the Turn A itself using the Gundam hammer in that one episode
Damn bro, that's incredibly rough. Hopefully you can get your poster framed and properly protected from thieves and the ravages of time.

>>8405212
The X series managed to make open source/closed source a proper casus belli. Axl has way too little lore to be discussed, making him Cossack's invention would be a stretch. X7 undercooked him.

>>8405103
>>8405215
>>8405246
Oh yes, I don't know that I'm fully over it, and it happened a couple of years ago. I had a number of things stolen from me, from a storage unit I was renting at the time. A WWII German bayonet, a bowie knife given to me by my grandfather, the detached head of a Swiss halberd. They stole a few pricey airsoft guns as well; an M249 SAW, a fully custom-built H&K M4D (that cost about two grand), an M4 Commando... I don't even play airsoft anymore, but the guns would have looked cool hanging on my wall. Speaking off, they took all my anime wallscrolls too, about two dozen different ones, that I could have used to cover bare sections of wall.

The Turn A cel was a really good one too, the titular Gundam spinning the hammer in front of it, a perfect hero shot. It wasn't even the only Gundam cel stolen from me, I had a great bust shot of Garma Zabi that Tomino went crazy over when he saw it. I didn't have the heart to tell him it was a repro, as there's no way I would be able to find--nevermind afford--the real thing. The bitch of it is, the thieves probably sold them for a pittance, if not just threw them out, as they likely had no idea what they were.

If I ever find out who did it, I want to cut off their hands like they do to thieves in Saudi Arabia. Will never happen though, even the police didn't investigate it. I shared the unit with my sisters who lost some things too, I know all their collectible holiday Barbie dolls were taken. I took all my stuff out of storage, most of which is sitting in a closet because I really don't have the space for it. Lots of Japanese toys; Soul of Chogokins, other older or high-end figures, a tremendous amount of MSiAs, and bins full of anime and movie DVDs.

That's life I suppose. Shit happens, and you just have to accept it and move on.

Included photo is the aforementioned Cherry cel and sketch. Also pictured is a Zelgadis production sketch signed by the voice actor, Hikaru Midorikawa.

>>8405335
Well shit, forgot photo.

>>8405337
Yooo, Zelgadis!

>>8405337
Thought you guys might appreciate seeing the Char's Counterattack poster too.

>>8405335
>priceless war memorabilia
>family heirlooms
>signed Turn A and Garma stuff
>official SMJ sketches
>soul of chogokins
>other vintage stuff

bro I’m so sorry holy shit I’m practically crying myself. That sounds like an absolutely insane collection in of itself

>>8405335
>even the police didn't investigate it
What the actual fuck.

>>8405335
>All that shit
>Stolen
Anon if I were you, not only would I have already installed an airtight isolated security system, but also bought multiple firearms.
I would also be out for blood but that's not as recommended

>>8405557
I've spent far too long and far too much collecting what I thought was the very best relating to my interests. I still have a lot of it, and even more of the less-than-stellar stuff (like nearly every Gundam action figure released in the US back when Toys 'R Us still existed), but the theft of some of my better things stings me in a way I still have some trouble getting over. I wouldn't have minded so much if the replaceable stuff was stolen, I don't think I would have replaced it anyway given the chance. It's the irreplaceable that burns, the things that I associate with unique and special events in my life. The things I know I would always appreciate no matter my age or changing passions. I remember those things fondly, as my memories are what I have left.

I could go into further detail, of the more sentimental and mundane things I no longer have, such as a nice leather briefcase belonging to my father that he gave me a long time ago. Keeping it /vr/, a case of old PC CD-ROM games, like the MechWarrior games, the Quake games, Warcraft RTS games, Dark Forces, Elder Scrolls, Rainbow Six, Descent, Tribes, and more. All gone, yet I still have most of the manuals. Thankfully, I have my DOOM and Diablo CDs, they were in a different bin. I have most of the aforementioned games in digital format now, but the physical discs were nice to have. The multiplayer heyday of many of them is long done anyway. I should've kept my old Win '95 Pentium system for retro gaming, I left it behind in my parent's house before they moved and it got tossed.

I still have my Pogs though, whoopie-fucking-do, I didn't lose or have stolen the fucking Pogs. Of all the things to still have, I can only shake my head at the goddamn Pogs. Actually, I do have OJ Simpson murder trial Pogs. No really, Pogs with cartoon illustrations of OJ, Judge Ito, the lawyers, the murder weapon... the '90s were a weird time.

>>8405843
Apparently the storage facility isn't responsible for lost or stolen items. I had no idea, I was floored by this policy honestly. I felt like that one episode of 'South Park' when Kyle didn't read the fine print. He ended up eating shit too.

>>8405881
I live in a safe and quiet neighborhood now, I'm not so worried about any future theft, as it was never my home that was broken into. Fuck public storage, fuck them with a spiked demon dick. Thinking back, I should've frequented yard sales and flea markets, it's possible I could have found my things, even if I couldn't prove the seller was the original thief.


It's given me some perspective, more or less forced upon me, that I a) own far too much and that ownership is largely overrated, and b) shouldn't feel too strongly about mere _things_. Things have a way of owning you if you care too much. I have a large collection of boardgames, a hobby that's waned in interest for me, that I simply can't seem to get rid of. I'd like to musical chairs the boardgames into the bins containing the nicer toys and other items I would like to display, but it's a lot of work moving it all around. I have organized a personal library after buying a large seven-foot bookcase to shelve all my classic literature, pulpy science-fiction, roleplaying games, anime artbooks from the '80s and '90s, and so on. I need to invest in yet more shelving for the many DVDs I own; display the good shit, sell the other shit. Such a pain in the ass.

Fuck me, I'm blogging on 4chan, and apologies to anyone who couldn't give a shit, but I appreciate having a reminiscing dialogue about the value--and drawbacks--of nostalgia. Maybe there's a lesson everyone could learn from all this. Priorities or something.

>>8406007
Honestly, these sort of discussions are really nice and a breath of fresh air from the usual shitposting of "what did they meant by this" or "znezz" or "super castlvania bros" or "genesisn't".

Your posts makes me with /ar/ existed.

>high quality mega man posting

I love you guys.

>>8406126
/ar/?

>>8406529
Mega man lore threads will one day overrun this board and I don’t think that’s a bad thing

>>8406838
Good. Mega Man is the most /vr/ franchise that there ever was.

>>8406529
>>8406838
We've been having these conversations everywhere lately which might be a bit rude to other people's threads. Megaman is a testament as to why lore is so important in a game.

>>8407048
Anon, I'm replying just to unironically praise you. Just for your brief consideration of politeness and rudeness, you're, at least, a step above the average shitflinger /vr/ user. Glad to have you around.

>>8407063
Cheers, mate.

>>8406632
"Anime Retro", people have asked for it for long enough that mentioning it gets you a 3 day ban on /a/

>>8405268
What if Axl was created by Dr. Cossack... But NOT Mikhail Cossack?
Dr. Kalinka Cossac! In Xover she's smart enough to create something close enough to X in base specs at age 15 (probably not on AI, I think OVER-1 is in the same level as Rock)

>>8406845
how?

>>8407515
But what would her motivation be? Her dad probably gave up on robotics after Wily ruined his reputation and Kalinka's life was in danger because of it. Maybe something that would protect them both in the future? What about the suffering circuit?

>>8407751
Cossack actually kept his career as he was a victim of circumstances and patched up his friendship with Thomas Light. He created Beat and the Mega Buster MK-II as a good will gesture as well as working as Mega Man's navigator in Complete Works Rockman 5's Navi Mode.

>>8407751
I can't answer that, it's all just hypothetical, although for what is worth, in Rockman X6, Ground Scaravich mentions finding others/other things like X and Zero before Alia shot him. X6 and X7 have the same director, for what it's worth.

>>8405337
Man...these are ridiculously cool. Thank you for sharing.

>>8407117
Amidst the chaos of endless CRT and Doom generals, endless debates if it’s retro or not, bait posts and Australia-kun, the Mega Man lore chads stand undefeated.

>>8408682
I believe one day we'll get a Legends 3 somehow and learn of the Shadow Government the Maverick Hunters became once Elysium, the System and the Class division happened.

>>8406007
Eh, detachment is overrated.