/vr/ - Retro Games

>>835423
Does Sonic 1 count?

not for resale doesn't mean anything, they are like "not for resale" albums, they were given to stores for promotional use but were actually part of the normal pressing, so they a worth exactly the same, people are just trying to scam idiots that don't know any better

>>835439
I see the scam aspect of it but why such wildly varying prices on carts?

I would spend less money on them, they've got a sticker on it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j010dARF1d8

>>835431
The not for resale sonic 1 copies are more common than a normal one is

>>835439
>promo copy
>less in existance
>more rare
Sometimes just an alternate sticker can mean all the difference

Somewhat unrelated, but I sold a copy of Wind Waker on eBay for 45 bucks, and it had "For Rental Use" on the back cover of the game, which is why I pushed the price of it up a bit. The person who bought it, who has a huge amount of these "Not For Resale" games in his listings, put it up for 125 buyout. It's still up there now.

My bet is just that it's shady resellers trying to milk collectors of money because it says three words on it.

Not for resale games that are part of a console launch or other pack in are always very common and worth less than the NFS version, always.

However NFS is often printed on promotional, limited or other kinds of special items and these are expectedly worth more

>>835628

In your first sentence you said you had a "NFS" copy of Wind Waker so you purposely "pushed the price of it up". Then you express disdain for the person who bought your item because they are "shady resellers trying to milk collectors of money because it says three words on it." You are hypocritical to the furthest extent possible.

As much as you deny it (and I see you deny it all the time), you ARE the scummy reseller. You ARE part of the problem. You ARE not a nice guy trying to help people out. I honestly wish you would just leave.

>>835642
K.

"Not for resale" means it's more fun and you get more of an experience from the game.

If it's twice as much fun playing "Not for resale" you should settle for paying double the regular cart's price.

I don't understand how you mouth-breathers don't understand this.

I, personally, ONLY play not for resale games.

I bought a 'not for resale' Kung Fu Panda / Lego Indiana Jones combo for $12.99 at Gamestop, and resold it to a guy for $130 on Craigslist.

People are finally understanding that 'not for resale' is better than regular

>>835664

Maybe it's just because people get a rush from the taboo of buying something that's not supposed to be resold.
Like the orgasmic feeling of ripping a "Do not remove tag under penalty of law" tag off a mattress.

>>835627
>promo copy
Yes. They are promo copies.
>less in existence
There are less in existence. About a tenth of a percent of the amount actually produced or sold.
>more rare
The fact that there are an extremely low amount actually in circulation makes this thought true. (more rare than their non NFR counterparts)


When these were given to stores, they were always meant to either be returned to Nintendo or demolished. Some even had stickers on the back that said to do so. This is just my personal collection. I started it because it's a very niche section of SNES or any cartridge collecting. There only exist 14 official NFR games, and they truly are pretty rare when compared to their regular versions.

Does the alternate game sticker mean much? Not to most. But I set my sights on a reasonable goal and intend to achieve it by getting the entire set. I'm currently half way there. There are a few more sports titles that I have to get as well, but thankfully, those are still selling for peanuts. I have gotten all of the biggest purchases out of the way. I don't think I'll ever see a Yoshi's Island NFR cart every again.

Anyway, that's my to do about this whole thing. People collect what they want to collect. Some people pick the really unique items. The fact that it's a small set makes me actually believe in completion.

>>835779
>for display only boxes
I'd like to not, that these display boxes have no connection to the NFR carts. That's just my thing. Putting the NFR carts in the display boxes.

>>835779
>FOR DISPLAY ONLY
I'd like to note that these boxes have share no connection with the NFR carts. That's just a thing I do, combining the display boxes with the carts.

>>835793
Another note: I only know these statement to be true in regards to the Super Nintendo set of Not For Resale cartridges released by Nintendo. I know nothing of any others, and I do know that every Sonic the Hedgehog cartridge was labeled as such and is not a rare piece at all.

>>835642
At the same time, WW goes normally for $45 anyway.

>>835779
My question to you is, is the mark up on these NFR games really justified? It seems atrociously silly to charge almost double on a game's worth because of a couple words on a label. By that same token, it seems the only way you'll be able to bolster such a collection is almost exclusively through eBay; you put yourself at the mercy of the merchant.

>>835818

You mean a merchant like yourself? Why are you asking these questions? You already know the answer to whether or not marking the price up is justified when you have already done that.

It really is silly, as a collector, to value a certain game more because it has a label on it that the others dont.

>>835824
That's really high; if I was gonna put up a regular copy, I would've put it at 30 tops. The only reason I sold it was because I found a nicer looking copy at a garage sale, and sold my personal copy; I remember stealing it from Blockbuster because I bought the loose disc from a friend, and needed a case for it.

>>835818
It was never about the money(and frankly, I'm tired of people thinking it is). If it's something I need to complete my collection, I will pay whatever I can to attempt to acquire it. These kiosk demos may play the same games as their non kiosk counterparts, but it's the sticker that sets them apart, essentially making them something completely different from the plain game for collection purposes.

Are they worth what they are going for on eBay? It's impossible to know that, since there is no set price for them, nor does anyone know how many remain in existence. Is it a fair price? It isn't TOO out-of-line, from what I can tell. I've been satisfied with getting them some of them for five times their regular non-NFR cartridge value, and I haven't looked back, because in the past six months, there hasn't been another Yoshi's Island NFR on eBay.

>>835850
It isn't hard to understand this from a collectibles standpoint.
>you and I each have a basketball card
>it is of the same player
>same year(1973) presumed very hard to find and worth a pretty penny
>your card was printed by TOPP'S
>my card was printed by TOPP'S 100, meaning mine was one of the first 100 printed
>mine is worth more because of a different label

The same thing goes for albums, toys, etc. Anything that had a limited edition version will inherently be harder to find or inevitably worth more. Except, in the case that the ONLY time it was released it was released in limited quantities. In which case, it will always be hard to find.

>>835850
I just wanted to get your perspective on it; it's just hard to imagine myself paying that much more for NFR games. I'd rather just have the game to sit down and play; guess I value the game itself more. Not that there's anything wrong with that; I've been guilty of "pimping" out my collectibles, namely in Magic: the Gathering cards.

I personally think that some NFR games are worth the price. Pack-ins aren't worth as much, and I would suggest they would be worth less than the regular copies; but store demos should be worth a bit more, since they were normally recollected by the distributor and destroyed, and most copies that are out there were stolen by employees, or given by ignorant/uncaring employees of the distributor.

I personally have a MFR copy of each Pokemon Stadium that I picked up in the wild from a guy selling his collection, and he stole them from blockbuster when he worked there.

>>835871

Well Not for Resale is a little bit different than just a difference in label because there is two types:

A) Games part of a package or bundle
B) Games that were used in stores and other locations for promotion

The first are dirt cheap because they are common as all fuck and invariably lack the case. For example, for Saturn among the cheapest games you can get are the NFS versions of Virtua Fighter 2, Daytona USA and Virtua Cop. They were released with the Christmas 95 bundle, and there are a shitton of them out there. They also came in a paper sleeve.

However other games like Sonic Adventure for kiosk display, which was only used in stores like EB games, are worth a pretty penny. They're virtually the same as the regular game, but come printed on a disc with a plain white label. Then why are they valuable from a collector standpoint? It's not because of the different label. Well, a little bit, but it's what that label represents: a copy of the game designed for special purpose and not commercially available; something that is hard to find and strange.

I think that is the big reason between which NFS games are worth something and which aren't.

>>835885
I already have the regular copies of these games, and play them all the time. Turtles in Time and YI especially. But as a trophy piece, I have these NFR games. These are the only duplicate games I have. I wish I could display them, but I haven't got room at the moment. But someday I might. They're like the 'nice glasses'. I might take them out when I want to show off my collection kek

At least they aren't sealed in acrylic. just some dust jacket covers for easy access.

Since the NFR games are designed to be used as in-store demos, sometimes there are differences, like with Majora's Mask. The NFR version starts with a map select screen and has different dialog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FGh4mNmFg8

>>835898
I have a Sonic Adventure Limited Edition NFS disk that I got when a local Toys R' Us was clearancing out their their DC stuff. I bought their store display and this was inside.
Sorry for shit quality from shit cell phone.

>>835939
I'm jelly. I'd like a NFR dreamcast collection in addition to my NFR 64 and SNES collection.

>>835921
Okay, I can understand that game being so sought after, simply because it's just so weird.

Isnt selling hem illegal?

>>835939

That looks different than the one I saw. The one I saw had a plain white label with "Sonic Adventure" typed on it. I tried looking for a picture of it now but I can't find it...

>>835993
Unless you're a retailer, no.

>>835996
Interesting. Maybe different retailers got different labels?

Seems Sonic Adventure 2 NFR has a white label, and Sonic Adventure NFR has the picture label.

>>835993
If it's yours you can do whatever you want with it.

I actually have some promo CD single and on the back of the case it came in it says that the disc remains property of the record label and is to be returned by a certain date in like 1998. Yeah, thaaaat's definitely not going to happen.

>>836039

Ahhhh, that makes sense. It was SA2, not 1. Thanks for the correction.

that just goes to showthat people who collect a lot tend to collect even further

in pic related there is 2 games with a portuguese waranty sticker on em. it is a unique feature in games, because as far as i know the portuguese distributor was the only one that gave warrenty on sega products in the world.

all of my games have this sticker, come and get me