/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
AD MORTEM
Beta thread
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125461-ad-mortem-a-mbf21-halloween-themed-megawad-beta/
Current release
https://drive.google.com/file/d/18le6ho89YT_myg8CiUUk2mw1439zPyyJ/view

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
PATCHWORK
Phase 2, awaiting new deadline
Info here >>8307479

VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8342963
Please use spawnflag 16 for your level exit triggers

=== NEWS ===
[11-23] Alkaline 1.1 for Quake released
https://www.quaddicted.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=989

[11-22] Anon starts a Doom server for oblige maps
http://dailydoommap.org/

[11-21] RTCW: The Victors resurfaces with a trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMSN9ZkY8Mk

[11-21] id1 Quake maps converted to Valve format
https://toolness-media.s3.amazonaws.com/quake/trenchbroom_quake_map_source.zip

[11-19] Organ Grinder is tomorrow
https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1461838043531390983

[11-19] New TFE release: 0.7 - Core Game Loop completed
https://theforceengine.github.io/2021/11/18/cgl-release.html

[11-16] high-performance OpenGL4 fork of Quakespasm:
https://github.com/andrei-drexler/quakespasm/releases

[11-15] Anon releases 10x10 project
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125783-the-10x10-project-part-one-boom/

[11-15] https://youtu.be/unE7wt3ZcH0
High resolutions and wide-screen enabled Dark Forces source port bud is live

[11-11] Mayhem Mansion update
https://darsycho.itch.io/mayhem-mansion/devlog/313417/omg-130

[11-10] https://www.moddb.com/mods/jazz-jackrabbit-doom-tc
Jazz Jackrabbit Doom EP1 released

[11-08] https://theforceengine.github.io/downloads.html
The Force Engine Builds are up and getting updated regularly.


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>doom
more like dumb jaja

Hello good morning sirs please reply to this post to claim tiles for the patchwork project thank you.

>>8358440
I recently tried to beat the sky may be iwad. i've never been filtered by an iwad before that wasn't a jokewad piece of shit, so one day I really wanna try to beat it, but it filtered me a bit

>>8358470
>Halo being right next to doom

>>8358470
almost...

>>8358479
I'm creating it right now. I've almost finished the 14th map.

>>8358171
>lego quake
neat

Literally me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMNxkQXwykA

>>8358440
Good. Good.

>>8358440
https://twitter.com/CommodoreBlog/status/1461809737322876938

>Casual players such as myself do not record demos.

>>8358462
I call C1

wHaT aRe SoMe GoOd WaDs

>>8358823
Extreme weapons pack

>>8358823
Fractured Worlds
Haste

>>8358817
>Backing out

>>8358912
no bully

>>8358823
thats an evergreen question because theres always new players and theres always new wads and also different perspectives on what wads are the best

>>8358823
MSCP
Zzul Bases
Miasma
Sine Die
Sunder
The Ana's Dream
evileye.wad
Nightomb

>>8358479
the creatoooooor
aaaa im creating

>no Futureshock32 updates for over a year

feels bad man

What button do I press to speed up demos? Or does it depend on the launcher/source-port I use?

>>8358470
>less duke

>>8358454
deu sex

>>8358454
FPSCarol in a nutshell

You gotta admit the 32X and SNES versions make Fortress of Mystery challenging since no infighting.

>>8359448
Pretty sure you have to set them yourself, at least with DSDA

>>8358823
wait for that one retard who always reply ''btsx, sunlust, eviternity, sunder, hffm, ribbiks shit''

>>8359682
Why would HFFM be lumped in with those in any context? All of those are good sets btw

>>8359683
I think he's just trying to come up with the most generic response you'd hear from one of us, made ironic by saying "one retard"
In any case, it's not a particularly funny nor accurate reply

>>8358440

>>8358368
Yes, I've seen that other helmet style on the right and I have no idea what it's for.

>>8358441
>>VIOLENT RUMBLE
is this anchored until we fill all the maps?
I'm in the mood for something

>>8358823
btsx, sunlust, eviternity, sunder, hffm, ribbiks shit

does anybody have quake 2's ssg firing sound without the cocking at the end? I just need the 'BOOM'

>>8359712
It's mostly done, I'm just finishing up a secret level (should be up for testing tomorrow) and waiting on another anon who says he's almost done with an extra map. The anchor can go as far as I'm concerned.

D2ALL UV Max of Ad Mortem when?
And who'll be the first to do it?

>>8359692
seethe

>>8359715
Extract the pak files

>>8359769
the ssg firing sound with the boom and cocking are the same .wav together, extracting isn't what i'm looking for

>>8359753
You

>>8359778
If the source is those two sounds combined you're going to have to edit it

>>8359778
Messed with this when my internet was down briefly. It's mixed from the Quake 2 SSG sound, the "xfire" sound from Quake 2, also, as well as the Siege Tank's small cannon from Starcraft.

https://files.catbox.moe/nm0ugv.wav

It ain't exactly the same, but I tried to preserve that initial BOOM.

>>8359793
sounds bretty good thanks

>>8359753
Gotta find all the secrets in The Other Dario first. Haven't seen a single streamer do it. Enjoy your archvile jumps.

>>8359825
I'm working on a map where you have to use a secret arch vile to jump into a seemingly out of bounds area and then go through a false wall to find a secret, only for it to make the automap say "There are no easter eggs. Go away."

>>8359829
Nice. I liked the Seethe midtexture in AD for a similar purpose. One secret in The Other Dario contains only a rocket with legs right in your face, a single health bonus, and Seethe on the wall.

>>8358823
Plutonia 2

CAPTCHA: 2G4NG

>>8359865
That's a serious sam tier secret but you made it even worse. Congratulations.
>>8359872
>2G4NG
>When talking about plutonia 2
Sign me up

>>8359879
sign me the FUCK up good shit go౦ԁ sHit thats some goodshit rightth ere rightthere if i do ƽaү so my self i say so thats what im talking about right there right there (chorus: ʳᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵗʰᵉʳᵉ) mMMMMᎷM HO0OଠOOOOOOଠଠOoooᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒᵒ Good shit

>>8359896
Inject some a' dis shit right into my veins

>>579278242

it's fraging time boyo's

>>8359971
>>>/v/579278242

has anyone ported qtest2's mugshot to retail quake 2 standalone? (not including any shitty mods like WOR)

>>8360136
*attention grabbing image*

Happy Thanksgiving!

>>8358823
Swift Death. My favourite wad to do saveless runs on.

>>8358470
>less duke

>>8358838
Oh, wow, these are brand new, one of them containing Insane Gazebo maps.

>>8359153
>Nightomb
I looked these up and this one is by Eternal, maker of Hell Ground, so I am downloading it and adding this one to my impossible backlog

I was building this map for last two weeks and now I'm finally releasing the first version.
https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=157110

It occupies MAP14 slot and is called "Dis Topia" (I don't want to make map names until I am done with the map set in case something changes). I wanted to make a more free-flow map that never truly prevents backtracking and offers a lot of freedom of chosing your progression. However it has quite a lot of revenants to compensate.

All the difficulties are implemented, but only UV is tested, the others simply lower monster count. WAD also contains MAP12 and MAP18 I made earlier and slightly rebalanced since.

>>8360420
Nice, but you should also tell us what map format and the recommended sourceport/what you tested on.

>>8360459
Right, I keep forgetting it's not obvious. Doom 2 limit-removing, tested on prboom+ complevel 2.
If using gzdoom, I recomend not allowing monsters to get pushed off the cliffs.

>>8360420
I thought I'd help playtest the map on lower difficulties by recording a demo, but I didn't get far. https://litter.catbox.moe/6rsude.zip
It's too hard for easy. I have two recommendations:
1) Record a demo on skill 2 of the map yourself so you can see how hard it is and also to experience what can be tweaked to increase replayability
2) Instead of deleting enemies on skill 2, add more plasma so that the player can delete the monsters himself. Except those three revenants on the ledge at the start, that should be just two on easy difficulty.

>>8360420
Tried it out on uv. I was enjoying myself but I think you have a broken red door next to the plasma gun.

>>8360504
Damn, I switched action to permanent and didn't test. Did I screw it up?

>>8360528
It looks like they're just backwards so you can't "use" the door.

>>8360536
Well shit. I guess I accidentally pressed F at some point. I'll have to fux it when I get home.

DEUS EX WALLPAPER DUMP

>>8358441
>Alkaline 1.1 for Quake released
Looks fukken sweet, i love techno Quake maps.
>New TFE release: 0.7 - Core Game Loop completed
So he is working on intergaring cutscenes now? Great, there sere some interesting mods for DF1, i wonder if TFE, if it will be finished, will kickstart a scene for it.

when is thta lazy cunt Graf gonna make gzdoom compatible to run the DOOM64.WAD of the steam release of Doom64?

>>8360613
>>8360613
>>8360613
anybody knows if and when this will happen?
I wanna play the actual steam DOOM64.WAD with mods.
and especially The Lost Levels mini campaign.
its not like gzdoom lacks the additional features of the steam version of Doom64

Do you guys ever play UT? I'm addicted to shock combos.

>>8360613
>>8360629
I tried copying the DOOM64.WAD from the steam install folder into the gzdoom folder and run gzdoom.exe but it gives me this
does it mean its still unsupported?
why has it not been made compatible yet?

>>8360645
Unreal Tournament is great.

>>8360563
>>8360561
>>8360560
reminds me of turok 2

>>8360645
I used to play UT 2004 there are some servers with a few people. I wish UT4 was also alive I actually liked wall movement in it

How do I stop being filtered by Thief 1?
The map is worse than in 2, the stealth is less engaging than in 2, the tomb stages are tedious, boring, and unfun. I really want to see the story and explore this super interesting and cool world. I WANT to be engaged so badly, I want to be involved so much, but it's just less fun than Thief 2.

>>8360606
>>8358441
>Alkaline 1.1
fucking based, love it.
Can't wait for Violent Rumble
Arcane Dimensions and Alkaline made me love Quake.

Have the jannies forsaken us?

>>8360649
You can use doom 64 CE instead which requires the wad to play. It's not compatible on it's own.

I've been working on a Doom project for a little bit now and I'm wondering if I should share what I have gotten done soon to get feedback or if I should wait until it's done and just release it.

Plan is for 20 maps, plus two or three secret ones. I'm currently 3 maps in - though this is after redoing the first maps a few times until I settled on a style and aesthetic I really like.

I'd also be interested in bringing people in on the project as I'm currently the sole mapper/scripter while another guy is composing the music for the project.

Happy thanksgiving you fucking animals.

>>8361078
why do americans celebrate lies

>>8360668
>The map is worse than in 2
The map is not that important, just use your eyes and the compass because after a few levels you stop receiving accurate maps anyways.
>the stealth is less engaging than in 2
Literally the same gameplay, and undead don't get cancelled by two water arrows, unlike Karras' toys.
You could argue that 2 has more elaborate level design that lends itself better to stealth gameplay, and no one will disagree with you there, probably.
>the tomb stages are tedious, boring, and unfun
Wrong, they are easily the best parts of the game.

>>8361078
32in24-13 deathmatch session when?

>>8358473
we HALO had a small HALO tussle about whether or HALO not halo is gonna be HALO talked about here since HALO halo is technically reHALOtro now but frankly I HALO dont think HALO has much of a place here outside the occasional HALO:CE projects.

>>8358809
what are you implying?

>>8360561
very nice

>>8358441
>Alkaline
Holy shit

>>8361429
how the fuck is that idtech1?

>>8361472
Or rather idtech2, sorry

>>8361472
It's just textures and brushwork, anon.

>>8361429
there are times i wish Q1 sourceports weren't packaged with a garbage bilinear filtering.
even PS emulators and other sourcepors came up with jinc2, lanczos and so on.
D2DX is using catmull as optional for the old 3dfx bilinear

Fractured Worlds does not play any demos in DSDA-Doom. I am accustomed to Doom automatically playing a demo upon start-up. If the wad does not have its own demos, it plays the default Doom 2 demos, even if the maps were replaced, causing desyncs. When did this behavior change?

>>8360420
Big oopsie with red door now been fixed. Also made some changes to easy as >>8360484 suggested, but haven't played it yet due to working all day instead.

https://www.doomworld.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=157132

>>8361545
Probably some MBF21 sorcery specific to Fractured Worlds

>>8361545
It's part of Fractured Worlds itself. FW includes empty demo files that do nothing when it attempts to play them. Sunlust does this too.

Did anyone else look at the DZONE covers/backs and want to play those TCs? As a kid they used to mesmerize the shit out of me

>>8361787
Why is this done? To create tension or something?

>>8361854
It's nice to sit on the title screen and listen to the music I guess. Jumping into a desynced demo of 'O of Destruction', or even a proper demo, is jarring.

Anyone familiar with old 90s era doom mods? Trying to remember one which had a blue and red pitchfork weapon. I believe it reskinned the plasma gun to be the blue pitchfork. Limited animations.

>>8361889
hell to pay?

>>8361889
Hell 2 pay

>>8361909
>>8361907
seems like it, but I can't find any shots of the pitchfork weapons.

I'm so fucking butthurt that I'm stumped at the In Flight level of Sunlust just because I've never really used the fist at all until this point. It seemed so simple at first but it's really being a pain.

>>8361927
>>8361909
>>8361907
>>8361889
Thanks, that was it. Good hit of nostalgia, last time I saw this I was at my cousin Peters house in 1996.

guys i think i'm running out of wad juice, i need some hidden gems

>>8361787
Thanks, I was wondering how some projects stay longer on the title screen. I wonder if having only DEMO1 be blank would stay on the screen longer then play 2 and 3 as normal.

>>8362206
Death Destiny's stuff like Grime, darkwave32

VIOLENT RUMBLE UPDATE - TURKEY DAY SECRET LEVEL EDITION:

>secret level (secret.bsp) now up for testing
>N-Runes now have a pickup sound effect
>trigger_hurt now has spawnflags to only affect players or monsters
>new 'killtype' on triggers can make killtargets explode when set to 1 (visual only)
>func_monster_spawner now has settings for generating a noise at the spawn location
>func_monster_spawner now has 'randomflags' for limiting which monsters can randomly spawn (no selection uses default PD2 behavior)
>Armagon body/legs model selection finally actually works
>fixed a bizarre Quakespasm crash related to misc_model
>fixed necessity to have non-id1 monsters already on the map for them to spawn from func_monster_spawner without precache issues

If you want to test the secret level, all you need is:
>the map files
>new progs.dat
>sounds/secret folder
>progs/secret folder

If you're using regular Quakespasm and try to load the map via console, you might get a model error. I have no idea what is causing this, but entering the command a second time seems to work fine.
Happy Thanksgiving!

>>8361945
I don't remember using fists at all, I think I just provoked infighting

Below-Earth Holdout
https://ufile.io/mejfjakh

That map for VR that I said would be done in 2-3 days, about 5 days ago. Yes, that was me who was yelling about compile times.
A mostly linear map, comprised of a weird mash of ideas. Tell me if anything's busted, because there probably is.

>>8362586
oh yeah, requires bsp2

>>8362586
Bigly based, anon. I'll give it a whirl in the morning.
Did you happen to include N-Rune 3?

>>8362618
_no

>>8362618
>>8362643
If I do add it, I wouldn’t have to revis the map, right?

>>8362672
With the separate vis file I'd imagine not, but I've never done it like that.

>>8362535
I still feel like this mod has too much shit going on

With the huge increase of mapping for community projects here, I wonder if there's any newfound interest in /boards/.wad

>>8358440
So I tried The Lost Episodes and couldn't get past the first map because it looks like it was someone's first doom map so I quit. Am I missing anything?

>>8362828
Not official

>>8362828
What the other anon said, Lost Episodes was third-party. The only official expansions to the first two DOOM games are Thy Flesh Consumed, Master Levels for DOOM2 (extremely mixed bag with some real shite levels as well as some good ones), Final DOOM and No Rest For The Living. There are also some non-official-but-recognized wads included in the Bethesda port but The Lost Episodes isn't a part of that I'm pretty sure

>>8362885
Sigil is somehow official

>>8363081
sigil was always official

Just played through scourge of armagon or whatever, it was pretty bad.

Is Dissolution of Eternity worth playing through? I've heard the machinegames expacs are pretty solid and arcane dimensions is amazing but I rarely hear people talk about mission pack 2

>>8363114
If you don't like scourge you're gonna hate dissolution so don't bother. Dimension of the past is alright, it's definitely different from the original episodes. Dimension of the machine is good and really takes advantage of the engine features. Arcane dimensions is as good as people say it is.

>>8363129
What I hated about Scourge is how much it liked to rely on cheap tricks. I restart missions on death, so stuff like spawning fast-moving mines that kill you nearly instantaneously around corners or forcing you to take damage to push a button that also forces you to take damage as the trap blows up really, really rubbed me the wrong way.

Basically, I like maps that are feasible to clear in one attempt without being a cakewalk.

>>8360560
First few are from the cathedral and Paris streets
But this one?>>8360571
Nice screenshots

Today I went on the internet and found this

>>8362240
I'll have impco done tomorrow, leave some space in the startmap.
also, seems to be some kind of a bug with empathy shield: if a fiend jump-suicides against it, its corpse will continue jumping around but doing no damage.
>>8362672
as long as you aren't touching the brushes, there are a couple of ways to avoid running vis again.
one is to compile with -onlyents (both qbsp and light). another is using adquedit to edit or replace entities directly as text.

whats your excuse for not having a built in super shotgun?

I found a way to play enhanced steam edition of Doom64 through gzdoom including The Lost Levels and otherfan made mini episodes but you require the original steam DOOM64.wad
If anybody is interested lemme know I can share my DOOM64 wad since I got it on steam

>>8361472
That's the magic of good brushwork and texturing, and a healthy dose of autism

>>8361029
Are you worried about midwits thinking you don't know how to spell "theogony"?

>>8361029
You should probably get your maps tested one at a time.

Do first-person dungeon crawlers count as "FPS"?

>>8363662
it probably fits >>>/vrpg/ better than here

Didn't this turn 20 recently?

>>8361339
I hope it's on the rotation for tonight's FNF.

i watched this video about doom mods and i want to ask does anybody know whats the name of the midi what plays when he showcases the dead marine?
https://youtu.be/ISSTfix7-iA?t=233

>>8363708
It's a cover of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pmpVubzzqM

>>8363728
thanks a lot man! i would never found this myself how did you know?

>>8363749
I had the good fortune of being a fan of Guilty Gear, and then playing Speed of Doom and recognizing the song used in that map.

>>8363662
Probably not. If it's an FPS with a fantasy setting ala Hexen or Heretic then yeah, but not if it's full on RPG.

>>8363751
GG itself also takes inspiration from popular music, I remember one of the songs in one game was pretty much Electric Eye

>>8363662
first person slicer

>>8363081
>>8363092
Sigil was made over two decades later by one of the original map designers. I consider it semi-official.

>>8363959
>Sigil was made over two decades later by one of the original map designers
With NEW COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DESIGN FEATURES never done before

>>8364043
Contextualizing linedef actions with things isn't new, John. McGee used torches for secret lifts already in 1994. I say as someone who has used shootable evil eyes in his maps post-Sigil.

>>8363728
>>8363767
That's clearly a rip-off of The Final Countdown. They made an entire song out the very first notes in the first verse.

>>8363114
>>8363129

Dissolution is MUCH better than scourge. The level design is actually decent, plus it adds interesting new weapons and monsters rather than just adding new ammo types (as if having 2 shotguns and 2 nail guns wasn't already redundant enough) and re-colored variants of old monsters.

>>8364081
you mean the other way around. scourge is the one with new weapons and cool levels.
dissolution is the one with ammo types, cramped levels and enemy recolors.

>>8364113
I just played through both and I ended up liking Dissolution more. Scourge had a few fun levels, but additions like the spike mine and traps like "the floor randomly falls out from under you into the lava" really soured my goodwill for it, and I ended up using the new ammo types a whole lot more than I used Armagon's weapons. Definitely some bad levels like the Egyptian one though and they tended to drag a bit

>>8363693
Yes.
https://youtu.be/uxcr3ryLwuc

>>8363081
>>8363092
It's not official because it wasn't *officially* released by id but it's considered a legitimate expansion because it was designed and published by Romero. Same with E1M8b.

Recommend simple vanilla map packs like Vanilla Wafers.

>>8362240
I've tried out secret.bsp, the arena is fun and the bedroom section is based

>>8364330
Nice.
You did help Sandy, right?

>>8364334
I beat Romerogon if that's what it meant

>>8364363

>>8364065
It's based off Kurenai by X Japan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6lKT8REALw

>>8364372
It's a perfect secret. By the way, I added N-Rune 3 to Holdout. Also, QSS crashed with this when I was testing my map. Seems like it had something to do with a scrag, but I haven't a clue otherwise.

>>8364434
Did the previous version (before adding the rune) give you that error on QSS? It works fine for me.

Playing blood at 120fps is wild

>>8364452
No, but it wasn't a situation that played out before. I don't think it had anything to do with the rune. It was in the first area, the single scrag there shot at me and hit an axeman. Axeman was swinging wildly and failing to hit the scrag, and it was just floating there. I went out of view with the intent of dealing with them later, but shortly after it crashed.

I'll see if I can recreate the situation, hopefully demos still save in moments like this. Here's the updated map.
https://ufile.io/8xrualq4

>>8364223
it's not official in a business sense, yeah
but the tricky thing is how bethesda was like "sure, why not" and added it to their unity port
so it's in this weird limbo where it's official and yet also isn't

Is Nightdive's Quake version fine?

>>8364540
Yeah

>>8364540
Sure. Movement got patched and fixed, too.

>>8364540
it changes nightmare mode so you can only have 50 health maximum for some reason, but other than that it's the same, just with more visual bloat

>>8364541
>>8364546
>>8364547
ok ty lads

How would you improve Habitat's infamous tunnels?

>>8364719
remove them

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>>8364719
remove habitat from the game

fuck shotgun starts
fuck czg
fuck necros
fuck tronyn

>>8364719
Without outright replacing them with something good? Having actual doors instead of walls which open from random walk trigger, I guess. Making floor flat so you don't bounce up and down while dodging.

BEHOLD
The first Doom port
https://wiki.preterhuman.net/SGI_Doom_FAQ

>>8364719
Add a sector truck.

Picked up ion fury on the steam sale
Really scratches that shadow warrior itch I've had for such a long time
Gunplay is pretty good with lots of good secondary fires, pretty fast paced and fluid
Recommend picking it up on your tracker of choice if you haven't played already. Fun little game So far

>>8364802
Where’s that moorhuhn with the gun from?

>>8364963
The first Doom port was porting it from NeXTSTEP to DOS.

>>8364978
its one of the vrskins player skins

>>8358440
Gentleman
LazyProcastinator is considering making Quake Champions girls R34SFM

>>8364540
Its good anon, also Nightdive even took notes from QSS later.

>>8364201
It would be nice to ask them about the Tessellation Stuff with ATI Truform, it feels good with the smooth models.

>>8365071
Do you know where it originally came from before it was added to the pack?

>>8365116
who?

>>8365120
It came from Bring Your Own Class skinpack, by the Pizza Tower discord server.

>>8365120
I stole it from the pizza tower discord's 'byoc' skin pack

>Map has no escape pitfalls
>Map has areas where you NEED to take damage to cross (I can forgive this one,just get to that point with more health)
Fuck you in particular if you design those kind of maps,its not fun,its tedious

How would you fix Place of Two Deaths (Quake DM1) anons? Just add more weapon variety, or expand it out to be more than just a couple of rooms?

>>8365116
>LazyProcastinator is considering making Quake Champions girls R34SFM
Finally, the shot in the arm the game needed. It'll all be Sorlag for furry money, mark my words.

>>8365312
Just donate and ask for that.
He lurks at /v/ once in a while.

>>8365116
got damn!

The cafe made a full fledged player model pack for download
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4120/recommended-download-player-models

Degtyarey if he real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGkqNVZ_Hk4

Are there any quake mods that change the animations of the weapons?

>>8365479
Just the animations? Not really, because animations are baked into the model. It's arguably easier to just make new models.

>>8365493
Well I learned something new today then. well that sucks.

I wanna play a wad that's chill so I can kick back and listen to an audiobook while I play. Any suggestions?

any reason why the google drive in the op requires a google account and not only that asking for access? other than that where can I download the quake remaster?

>>8365531
Vile Flesh

>>8365531
I recommend Doom Zero. No enemies, just puzzles. Oddly therapeutic after grinding UV-Max demos I have found.

>>8365570

>>8360576
>>8360581
this gives me existential dread

>>8364719
the tunnels are the neatest part of that map. just the way they look is so memorable meanwhile the rest of the map is garish nonsense

This focking rat is dooming and the beat the game

>>8365071
>next GZDoom replaces the player with Graf
>there is no option to change it

>>8365738
Can you even imagine what an adrenaline rush it must be to play doom as a rat? Once your mind actually registers what's going on onscreen it probably won't be able to tell that it isn't real. That little dude is, in his mind, actually shooting and killing demons and running for his life.

>>8364719
I'd keep only the tunnels, then I'd delete everything on the outside of that, because it looks and plays like shit.
Then I'd add some rooms and larger halls for these tunnels to connect to, probably color coding some paths (according to keys) for ease of navigation.

>>8365116
I don't know who that is, but tell him to do green Slash.

The perils of rigging and animation...

I wonder who these are supposed to be?

Are there any downloads on mega that allow me to download Duke and Blood in a way that just allows me to just pump files into a source port? I don't wanna bother with installing .exes with wine.

Dario started playing Plutonia, apparently 3 days ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzhBkRU0liU
I assume this wasn't posted here because I didn't see it

>>8366141
Band members of The Prodigy.

>>8362535
Is this one of those bait images from /v/ given life?

>>8366383
What, the troll physics?

>>8366384
There's so many UI elements

>>8366389
the silent hill 2 version better captures the modern ui bloat

>>8366391
I'm not personally aware of it, but I'll believe you.

>>8366383
no, this is

>>8366380
>>8366141
What mapset is that?

>>8366428
I take psychological damage every time I think about this mod. The UI is a fucking mess and mechanically it is all over the goddamn place. It is pure weapons-grade autism, and not the fun kind.

>>8366575
Conceptually, having a multiclass RPG mod with Doom OCs and an anime girl protagonist is already questionable, and it was pulled off about as well as something like that could be

>>8366601
It could have been done a lot better, because really a lot of those features can be safely ignored in favor of just hitting everything with the absurdly powerful default melee weapon. This mod and Fusion Weaver are like the epitome of too much shit stuffed into a mod.

>>8366614
>Fusion Weaver
This and Atherius both remind me of that one Duke mod where Bubsy is a playable character

>>8366628
I think the dev of Atherius is connected to that Bubsy one in some way too. It's a really specific niche of an already niche thing. It's kinda fascinating, and a little scary.
I don't have much room to talk though. Like 70% of the OCs I've made over the years have originated from my Doom mods.

>>8366432
Brotherhood of Ruin, Map05

>>8361472
is it?, it's using expanded compilation tools, colored lightning, bsp2, etc

>>8366846
I was wrong by the way, it's idtech2.
idtech1 is the doom engine.

>>8359682
these are literally the only wads any player that's joined the Doom community post 2015 knows

>>8358823
Ad Mortem

What if Serious Sam had an archvile-like enemy?

>try this source port called Raze to play duke
>if you disable mouse look or even put it sensitivity to 0 it disabled the ability to switch between weapons with keys.

Wtf, what kind of logic is that?

sometimes i wonder if playing retro shooters on the highest difficulty and restarting maps if I die is really the best way to play them

>extremely long, easy level that suddenly throws in a gauntlet of instakill traps at the very end
>one of the traps has some kind of physics oopsie and kills me as I'm avoiding it towards the end

thank you machinegames

>>8367069
It wouldn't work mostly because Sam moves slowly and the spaces are too open. The thing would have to do pitiful damage.

>>8367105
They're probably referring less to the hitscan attack and more to the enemy revival

>>8367104
The best way to play them is the way that is the most enjoyable to you. I prefer to compromise with hard saves for very long (10+ minute) maps because of the exact thing that you mentioned. You can always go back and challenge yourself later.

I was playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein and uh uh, why was uh, BEN AFFLECK in RtCW?

>>8367116
>The best way to play them is the way that is the most enjoyable to you.
this
>>8367105
>>8367110
if we were to refer to his attack, these chicks do a good job emulating it.

>>8367069
what about an iron lich?

>>8367069
Sam's enemies despawn after a few seconds.

https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1464649634295468041
more retroquad stuff

>>8367104
>thank you machinegames
Is this DOPA? It's really rude and difficult and can easily fuck you, consider at least one save a level. The levels in their newer episode are longer.

>>8367147
Witchbride in 3 should have just been a singular boss encounter and not a regular enemy afterwards.
>>8367153
What's that again?
>>8367158
Yeah, probably wouldn't work on that front.
I think a good "counterpart" for serious sam would be an enemy that prevents enemies from dying upon reaching 0 HP if they are near the not-archie. The animation could be a bit lengthy so that they can only "revive" one or two enemies at a time. Then give it a ranged attack that punishes you if you don't move away from it, similar to how archviles punish you if you don't move into cover. It shouldn't be a hitscan attack like the archvile but maybe it summons pillars of fire near your location that you have a few seconds to move away from.

>>8367187
>What's that again?
heretic's metallic skull thing
they have 3 attacks but the most unique one is a small tornado that rises up the player and shakes them a bit

>>8367182
DOPA wasn't that bad but Hell or Dark Water in machine is getting on my nerves

i was running across the second crusher trap that you have to bait and then run along the top of and I randomly blew up halfway across like how a janky elevator in another game might instagib you.

I was bored and opened the character progs in qtest, and there's a large amount of animations I've never seen documented on TCRF or any Quake site. The knight has frames for going up stairs and falling off ledges, the grunt has a normal walking animation, the spawn has animations for biting, and the player has a decapitation death along with some frames for falling down something. Neat stuff,

>>8366846
It's so good so far

>>8367240
Wow nice level I have try it again, I kinda just tried the first couple of hubs.

Been playing the Bethesda Unity port. Did loading saved games always reset infighting?

>>8367326
It's been blowing me away as much as AD and Underdark Overbright have, great looks and good fights.

>>8367453
No. This behavior was changed in an update.

Im looking for a shitwad
I only saw a video of it once posted here - the first map was some kind of a town with cartoonish aesthetics - red brick textures, blue sky, fountains, a lot of civilians walking around(you could kill them with no consequence), lizard enemies and shit
Both enemies and weapons were all over the fucking scale of weirdness. No standard doom weapons I think but I could be wrong, just some weird stuff like a magic wand shooting blue projectiles, then some gun, then some other shit - the assets for weapons and enemies were mixed - probably stolen from different games - with enemies like a giant lizard at the end of the first map that you fought in a bar full of civilians
It all looked like from a dream, and that's how it sounds when Im describing it, but it is real. Please anons help, it could be fun to play and maybe good to recommend for shitwad anon

'ate demans

>>8367453
IIRC Doom didn't save targets of anything, so it aborted infighting and also made arch-viles lose targets.
I guess they ported this.

has anyone put the haste power up in quake 1

>>8367470
what did they ever do to you

>>8367484
nuffin. jus dont like em

>>8364540
Seems to have a thread at >>8364948 .

>>8364547
What kind of bloat?

>>8365168
How do you feel about needing to take damage to get an item? New to the games, but I think there was a place like that in Power Control in TNT: Evilution.

>>8367549
its a alf bait thread, he used the same baits at /v/.

>>8367459
When; by who; and did it say why? Any links about it?

>>8365934
Looking good.

>>8367240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGljdKxXaTw

ALRIGHT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS, IF YOU THOUGHT YOU WEREN'T GOING TO BE REMINDED WHAT DAY IT IS, YOU'RE DEAD WRONG.
IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S A GOOD FUCKING TIME TO POST THAT SHIT.

>>8358823
does anyone know any doom wads taking place in forests or other woodland environments?

>>8367759
This would make a good midi pack.

>quake thread nuked
nice, I guess it really was Alf

>>8368003
Grove.wad

>>8367987
I've made this: >>8360420
Though turned out I broke it, so I had to re-upload it here
>>8361558

>>8367987
Forest scene for a map I'm slowly working on.

>[is officially a retro fps in your path]

>>8368056

>>8368056
>[is also officially a retro fps in your path]

>>8368056
>MetaDoom
>No MetaHalo

>>8368056
>>8368069
>[is also also officially a retro fps in your path]

>>8368050
The DBP33 palette was fun to work with, cool to see it used in a more natural setting, gj

>>8368075
SPV3?

>>8368086
Never actually played that project. Looking at it right now, my take on the palette is subtly different. Maybe it was subconscious, I'm pretty sure I heard of that DBP before, but I don't play every one.

>>8368080
The second half sucks

>>8368183
Fits right in with most retro games then.

>>8358440
Anyone have a link to the diablo2d wad?

>>8368080
>Crysis is retro

>>8366601
>and it was pulled off about as well as something like that could be
I don't agree at all, there's no need for UI bloat like that.

>>8367469
Kind of sounds like Memoirs of Magic, which anon did play.

>>8368442
I don't think it coulda been Memoirs of Magic. All of the assets there were custom made.

I'm going to play Unreal for the first time. How good is the Unreal Evolution mod from the GMDX guy and should I avoid it for a first time? I'm not a hardcore puritan but I don't want it to be too altered from vanilla.

>>8367093
Probably just a bug nobody noticed because everyone else uses mouselook.

>find old website
>just about everything isn't archived
>mfw

https://web.archive.org/web/20060118194307/http://www.wadsinprogress.info/?a=listwads&game=&status=&mode=

>>8369149
This serves as a valuable addition to my ever-growing bottomless well of Strife knowledge. Day of the Acolyte was once called Day of the Acolytes. Thank you for your humble contribution.

>>8368719
I'm using it for a first time playthrough and I'm finally having some fun now that I have the shock rifle.

>>8368719
I completed Unreal for the first time last year with the Evolution mod, and I would call it an improvement of the main game.

Just got to the end of The Altar of Storms (ne_ruins) for the first time. The amount of custom stuff included there was impressive. Didn't expect battles mechhanics to be changed that much. This bitch that respawns orges really got me on the first meeting. And these jumping blob fuckers. Need to actually play some Hexen 2 to meet the originals. Ending battle that doed not suck was a pleasant surprise too.

I am pleased to announce DailyDoomMap now works properly through Doomseeker, downloader is not needed anymore

>>8367987
Plan on making this a map where cyberdemons are common enemies and you have to two-shot them with the BFG or else rely on your SSG as a backup.

>>8368056
>>8368069
>>8368080
Fuck off.

>>8362240
Imperfect Courage v1:
https://mega.nz/file/AeY3GaBY#d_dyrVaiKLsT8eX7wJTAw95dAKjq4ko-sHoBjU3nWbw

Retard question, VtM:B and HL2 are on the same engine so why is Bloodlines so much harder to mod than HL2? Youtube recommended me a vid where someone modded Doom shit to HL2 and but stuff like that doesn't exist for Bloodlines

>>8369578
because VTMB uses an earlier version of the Source engine than HL2 does. Valve licensed it while HL2 was still being worked on so it's basically a hodgepodge of older Source code and whatever custom stuff the devs did to it

>>8369578
VTMB was made at the same time as HL2 so was made using an incomplete version of source. Because of that troika had to fill the holes and stuff themselves which is why it uses a lot of LUA scripting and why it has things like cloth physics years before valves games did.

>>8369564
I did not know

Played through Unreal in coop using JCoopZ which saves which map we were on, but does not save the inventory. Every time we loaded a map I had to manually spawn weapons and we lost everything.
We want to play through Return to NaPali, is there a fix for this? It seems like JCoopZ is meant to keep the inventory too but I just can't figure out why it doesn't.

>>8368003
ghoul's forest

>>8368056
>>8368069
>>8368080
If there's good mods worth talking about I don't even mind them being here.
I'm told STALKER has a lot of good ones; I'm aware there's something for Halo called SPV3, but I don't know of anything notable for Crysis at the moment.

>>8369578
>>8369604
different version of Source and VtM:B being an RPG means there's a lot more shit you have to fuck with, while in theory you could just slap Gordon in a new map and call it a a day

>>8369564
Man I should really replay Turok 2

Should I bother with the 1000 Line CP trilogy or am I better off playing Warcraft 2?

>>8368056
>>8368069
>>8368080
Yeah, those technically are retro.
Then games like Quake, Duke3D or Doom should be called ultraretro.

>>8369921
1K Line wads are very solid, especially if you skip Major Arlene maps. The third one has the best mapping overall, though the second one has better highlights, such as maps 21 and 32.

>>8368080
>especially if you skip Major Arlene maps
i have never played her maps, what's wrong with them? Does she suffer from Bridgeburner syndrome where they try to make it look visually impressive but the gameplay is boring or poorly playtested?

>>8369985
was meant for >>8369978

>>8369985
They just suck. She doesn't even tried to do something interesting with the limitation - for example, her map in the 1K Line 2 was just... 2 or 3 symmetrical rooms or something like that. With zero interesting combat scenarios or some fancy vanilla tricks. It doesn't even feel like that was a 1000 lines - more like 500. This is especially jarring, considering work of other mappers. If not her status, this garbage wouldn't even pass the quality control, I'm sure.

>>8370018
that's unfortunate

>Spend more time looking for interesting wads and maps than playing them
Fuck me

>>8370096
I haven't played a wad I didn't make in a while. I have no idea what is going on in outside world.

>>8369921
Not familiar with 1000 Line, so... Both? At ,east I played Warcraft 2 and can say for sure that it's great + I think it's fair to assume that some maps in that trilogy are worth playing, so just pick up both.
>>8369953
>Then games like Quake, Duke3D or Doom should be called ultraretro.
Maybe "Retro Classic"? "Cult Retro"? Uh-h-h...
>>8370018
>her status
I know I'm gonna regret asking this, but what status?

>>8370106
>I know I'm gonna regret asking this, but what status?
She's part of the big clique, with the likes of Bridgeburner and Jimmy.

>>8370102
>spend so much time trying out other anon's AM maps and watching streams of other people playing it that i feel no desire to go through them all again myself
>the same thing happened with HFFM

>>8369953
The cutoff date should either be put back to what it was before, or at least pulled back to around 2004.

>>8370102
Same.

>>8370112
I was stuck doing shit on HFFM for quite some time, but man if it wasn't a lot of fun.

>>8370167
I think that 2005, or a rolling "20 years old no matter what machine it's on" would probably have gone somewhat smoother, but that genie is out of the bottle now.

>>8370240
The feedback page is there. Someone could try reasoning with the moderator and dev team here.

>the japan version of saturn doom is better
Why are weebs like this?

>>8370249
You think they'll roll back some big decision like that on your whim?

>>8370269
That comes from an ignorance of refresh rates, and thinking more work was done on the port because it had multiplayer support in Japan, it has nothing to do with weebery, nonce.
Man, imagine playing Saturn Doom in multiplayer.

>>8370269
weebs are cancer but you usually see them in rpg threads not here

If the 2000s FPS games become a problem then I can just change the OP to 90's FPS thread.

>>8370392
Nah it's just a slow week, that hasn't been a problem nobody talks about them anyway

>>8370437
Hence why I said if. It's totally just some bored shitposts right now. I'm still getting rid of the OP paste though.

>>8370437
The only game worth talking about, STALKER, already has a general in /vg/

>>8370109
Nothing new, especially considering how much I clueless regarding modding stuff. All my knowledge about that retro community comes from here if I bother to remember it.
So far, the "be cautious, there're idiots" are more than enough for me when it comes to understanding who that Arlene & Bridgeburner are. I'll let you be the judge of them, not that this thread is a good fit for that.
It's better to talk about why Hexen is unarguable the best DOOM Engine game on both PC/Consoles and stuff like that. lol

>>8370392
No Amid Evil, Dusk or Ion Fury?

>>8370565
I'm fine with this. I'll miss the chance of decent IF talk even if there's a few here determined to shitpost it to death.

>>8369552
Extremely based. I still don't get it, but that was fun as fuck.

Any preference on where you want it? Regular start map tp, before/after my secret level, maybe hidden somewhere on the start map?

>>8359613

>32X
>no infighting

now it does

>>8370770
ok wake me up when they add the Cyberdemon and Spider Mastermind

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME YET AGAIN! Tonight we're playing through Knee Deep in ZDoom with 2 life survival. Reminder that you'll need the latest Zandronum alpha build to join.
104.128.49.2:10708
104.128.49.2:10708
104.128.49.2:10708

>>8368183
warhead is the superior version

I've been doing some revisions to my wad that I posted earlier, and the situation where a blue key is below the ledge so you can't see it from the ledge you need to drop off (But can see earlier)

So I made this pillar that retracts once you jump off the ledge towards it. Would that make sense?

>>8370269
Japanese Saturn Doom is technically "better" but only in the sense that it was the last revision of the Saturn version, thereby being the most stable one. It being the Japanese release has nothing to do with any supposed quality, and any other region would have likely had the best version if it were the final one released.
All this being said, the improvements are negligible and Saturn Doom is still Saturn Doom anywhere in the world. There is very little reason to play it.

>>8370770
Was it hacked recently?

>>8370667
no real preference, but I think it would make sense to make the portals fairly obvious if the runes are required to open them.
I don't know how you're placing yours, and haven't played it yet. if the runes are explicitly tied to your map somehow, just leaving impco as a regular non-secret map is also fine.

also I think your map crashes in QS because of magazine.mdl, replacing with anything else fixes it. possibly some limitation on the number of frames, don't know for sure.
have you looked into the empathy shield thing?

>>8370549
>Hexen
>the best Doom engine game

based

>>8371032
Once you've collected all the runes you can approach the altar to make Shubby explode and reveal a large pit under him. Jumping in teleports you to the secret level... or will once I've updated it.
I kinda like the idea of hiding yours on the start map just because there's a lot of unused space, but if you don't care then that'll just depend on how motivated I'm feeling.
>also I think your map crashes in QS because of magazine.mdl, replacing with anything else fixes it.
Huh, alright, thanks. I guess splitting it into two or three models couldn't hurt.
>have you looked into the empathy shield thing?
I have, and I haven't found a direct cause of the issue yet. I can probably slap together a really janky fix though.

>>8371146
I meant the animation frames, there are 360 degrees of rotation that you don't use anyway. this works: https://mega.nz/file/oLoEHZAK#7R656TWcUgZHe4S2QpAOKb7fUZPmHf_s2H3V2itQbOU

also
>him

Has RTCW held up at all? I got it on the Steam sale for a dollar and never actually played it

>>8371193
>there are 360 degrees of rotation
I completely forgot about that, honestly. I was going to have an angled shelf for some of them to sit on. Thanks.
>him
I'm sure she's used to misgendering by now.

Has anyone made a parody of Dis called "Deez"?

>>8371206
Yeah, you'll want to play it with iortcw for better stability and modern resolution support.

>>8370934
Well, that certainly was Knee Deep in ZDoom. Thanks for joining as always.

>>8371252
What the fuck are these colors?

>>8371206
good atmosphere and levels (some of the last decent ones before the level design drought).
lots of auto hitscan weapons vs auto hitscan enemies, so gameplay's not great but it's functional.
stealth missions were annoying back then and are annoying now. non-human enemies can be hit-or-miss.

>>8371254
The colors of a man who uses software mode, it looks like.

>>8369985
The start of BridgeBurner's map was the most fun fight in the whole mapset. The only other map I found memorable was MAP11, felt like most of the other mappers were not skilled enough at the game to know how to make fun fights.

>>8371421
If Bridgeburner's map was the most fun in the mapset then I think that speaks less about Bridgeburners abilities and more about the lack of quality of the set

>>8371425
Dunno, I'm not a picky eater so the WAD was ok for me.

>>8371429
Don't eat WADs, anon.

>>8370549
>I'll let you be the judge of them, not that this thread is a good fit for that.
So why did you decide to acknowledge it to begin with?

>>8371146
regarding the empathy shield, the bug comes from hipnotic. here's a fix, sort of.
other monsters are potentially also affected, but I figure it's safer to patch it up locally, rather than changing the entire T_Damage. vorelings for example will keep attempting to back away if the player keeps chasing the corpse, but that's fairly unnoticeable.

>>8371064
Indeed.
>>8371439
So that you can shitpost that question.

>>8359682
I don't care. BTSX and Evertinity are the tits.
>>8366892
excuse me I joined in 2012, and I've been playing doom since I first got the homebrew on my psp in 2008.

>>8371643
Yeah, that's about what I was thinking of doing.
Maybe I'll see if I can fix the source of it for the Quaddicted release - or at least more individual cases.

>>8370549
Bridgeburner's maps are very pretty, and Arlene's are too though maybe less consistently. There is value in that. If they were part of a modern gamedev pipeline they would be the ones doing the final pass for visuals.
If you could get together a team of mappers to do a whitebox (pure level design, an art pass (making textures for maps/set pieces), and a finishing pass (fancy shit) that might be fun. And they'd be pretty okay for the final pass depending on the visual style you're going for.
I haven't seen either of them make a decent attempt at more natural looking environments, but that geometric style has an appeal too. Would be fun to see them work outside their comfort zone.

Thanks for reading my blog about niche doom community names.