/vr/ - Retro Games

if that's your approach then you really shouldn't bother continuing. The gameplay is (wait for it) solid...combat is fine but if you suck at it (i dont see how) you should remember this IS a stealth game...you're meant to avoid combat as best you can. How far in did you get in those 8 hours? I think it might be safe to say its just not for you

i think some people try too hard to not like things

this happens more often the older you get

>>834796
My main complaints are the boss fights (Wolf's second one in particular) and the forced fights like the elevator after the helicopter dude fight and the elevator after sniper wolf.

>>834770
>The combat is flat out dumb. It's 100% luck to the point where it's almost game breaking.

Wut? There's almost nothing in this game that's luck based.

>It's 100% luck to the point where it's almost game breaking.

Wait, what do you mean? Assuming you aren't on the harder difficulties where you have no radar, you have that to help you spot enemies. Even if you are on a harder difficulty, you have the first person view. I've never had a problem with them but some say the combat controls feel a little clunky at times, but this is to make stealth the focus of the game instead of running in doom style and blowing everyone to bits.

But hey if you don't like it bro don't play it, opinions and such.

I know this could well be bait but I just had to be sure /vr/.

Luck based? What? I agree that the combat is a bit clunky at first, but there's basically no element of luck in it. How is it luck based?

That said the torture scene is kind of pissing me off. I can't seem to mash fast enough to get past it on my PSP and no way in hell am I giving in. The 'lol no continues' shit really doesn't help, it's the one piece of meta in MGS that I can safely qualify as stupid and obnoxious.

>>834890
You can fail the torture scene and still continue playing, I think it just gives you the non-canon ending

>>834770
>Getting detected

The boss fights aren't that difficult combat wise (The tank is a bit stupid though)

>>834898
Yeah but fuck that. I am stubborn as hell and don't want the bad ending.

>>834908
To get past the ones in peace walker I used a marker and quickly swiped it across the button. Peace walker has many button mashing sequences that you need to do to even progress the game.

You can probably look up "MGS pen trick" or something and find more info

>>834770
OP, I played through them all last year and didn't have issues personally. I even played quite a bit of MGS3 before just playing them in release order.

>Why is MGS so revered?
Great mood, story, characters, and music, tense stealth, memorable boss fights.

Combat is competent, despite it being far from the focus, but aside from taking out goons with the suppressed SOCOM, or forced sections, you'd be better off just dying/continuing if you get in a firefight.
If you're hopeless at stealth and have to fight, you should maybe go through the VR missions to get used to the auto-aim, and the different way each weapon handles.
If the story hasn't hooked you, you're bad at stealth, and you can't get over the combat hump, just pack it in and play something else. Don't force yourself to do something you don't enjoy, just because other people do.

>>834919
Eh, I guess I might have to... I wish there was something that'd just let me autofire on the PSP but that seems unlikely to exist.

>>834956
Surprised they don't let you. Sony should really update the PS1 emulation on PS3/PSP to let you choose that.

>The combat is flat out dumb. It's 100% luck

You don't know what luck means, and you're bad at video games. Don't blame the game when you don't understand it.

>Last boss fight

>Get him down to the point where one hit will kill him

>He fucking regenerates a bit of health and kills me

I have never raged so much. I fucking saw his health bar go up more than just a bit.

>>834961

>Official autofire

No. Anyone that uses autofire is the epitome of casual and deserves no legitimacy.

It's all about spasming your finger on the button. You have to physically exert yourself, just like Snake does.

I really enjoyed MGS1, but all of the actual gameplay parts just felt awkward to me. I have always felt like the controls in the games are terrible.

>>834961
Okay I take my statement back, apparently there's something called 'MacroFire' that might do what I'm looking for. I'll have to check it out.

How does psycho mantis work if you're emulating it?

>>835092
On PSP, it's basically the same. You have to open up the menu and switch to controller 2 input, etc.

>>835113
I meant on PC. I know about the PSP from asking about that somewhere

>>835119
Saw this on a stream last week. If you're using a gamepad, you have to switch to the keyboard.
If you're keyboard though? No idea, maybe alternate keybinds, or it goes down the shoot the statues route.

>>834770
>Getting in combat outside bosses and scripted moments

It's a stealth game.

>>834770

15 year old detected.

The only time when combat got to my nerves was during the shirtless one on one fight with liquid at the end, every other boss was awesome.

>>834817
>(Wolf's second one in particular)
>Not sitting in the corner and sending nikita missiles her way

>>834893
>(The tank is a bit stupid though)
Throw grenades down the hatch, makes it a fucking joke.

>>834770
>The combat is flat out dumb

>>837256
That's a coward's way, Snake.

>Why does the combat in this stealth game suck

>>834908
You don't want to get the stealth camo? Also I've been putting this off for years but I need to make a video showing how to hit the button super fast. It's awkward to describ in text. But put your left thumb on the button and use your right hand to move the controller/psp. You'll never have less than full health again. Also you can regain health after the torture stops by continuing to mash. That may help.

>>834890
Ok Anon I made a video of proper button mashing technique. This will get you through those torture sequences no sweat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0zgtLCTsYA&feature=youtu.be

>>840762
Cool, I'll have to give this a try tomorrow, when I'm not falling asleep.

>>834817
What? Wolf and the Hind D boss fights were great. But I agree with you that the elevator fights were shit, and so was running up several flights of stairs while guards shot at you.