/vr/ - Retro Games

yeah

Both are fine... The snes version you can save and back warp... So you can get lots of hammer bros suits then start with them which is fun... The hammer bro suit was also less common in the original, the snes gives you a few more places to find it

>>8340462

You can also play the battle mode (arcade Mario bros layout) from the title screen instead of the wage for 1up cards... But you only get the arcade stage but can play lots of rounds of it in a row

>>8340470

Nintendo became utter shit when they released n64, the Wii was somewhat ok... Modern Nintendo doesn't compare to their older days

Bait collage cherrypickfag thread?

>>8340384
>I don't know why
I know why

>>8340384
>>8340954
THEY MADE THE CAVE LOOK LIKE A CAVE IN THE SNES VERSION!!!!! AAAAAAAAHHH ITS RUINED!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>8340954
this image has actual points but the person who wrote it sounds like a retard which doesn't help the cause

also

>cool green fireball was censored

it's a classic NES palette glitch which they fixed, I'm even ready to bet it was fixed without the devs even realizing due to how differently palettes work on NES and SNES

>>8340982
>doesn't help the cause
i dont care if people are so brianwashed that they disregaurd facts because they got their feelings hurt

>>8340954
>generic soulless cave
This autist always makes me laugh

>>8340982
THEY MADE THE FIREBALL LOOK LIKE A FIREBALL!! ITS RUINED!!!!!!! LE SOULESS!!!!!!

>>8340982
>it's a classic NES palette glitch which they fixed,
>Fixing glitches means it's improved
Real gamers appreciate these glitches and never wanted them altered.

>>8340384
All Stars is better and seems to be what the devs originally had in mind, considering it's mostly a gussied up source port; SMW is actually built on SMB3 code

Mario 2 and 3 in All Stars are fine, it's Mario 1 and Lost Levels that aren't close enough to their originals both in aesthetics and play control.

of course it has. it's a remake. all remakes soulless just look at nugta

>>8340384
No, I love the SNES version just as much as I love the orginal. SNES is enjoyable and looks good.

>>8341095
nugta?

>>8341157
>looks good.
filtered by sovl
>>8341160
gta with gimped radio stations and added motion blur

>>8340384
I didnt think about that shit when I played it

It'd been almost a day since this thread, I was getting worried

>>8340384
nice aspect ratio, fagass.

Don't you schizos get tired of having the exact same threads every single day?
>>8341157
Alposter is alright though

The All Stars version is an excellent upgrade, find something worth complaining about ya retard fag

>>8340980
Maybe it was never a cave.
Maybe the nature of the cash-in ports necessitated uncreative interpretations of an ambiguous style.

>>8341239
>>8341234
>>8341157
>>8341024

u prolly bought the gta remaster and saw nothing wrong with it

>>8341245
No I didn't and the GTA remaster looks like shit. Have you seen the character designs? Also comparing All-Stars to GTA Remaster trilogy ain't fair for the All-Stars version looks good and fun.

>>8341245
ur a autistic retard tho

>>8340954
10/10
I get mad every time
>>8341004
>Real gamers accept faulty products

My biggest gripe with the All-Stars remasters (NOT remakes; they're almost exactly the same games underneath) has always been the sound effects. They're based on Super Mario World's, and so everything sounds teeny as fuck, from Mario's jump to when you collect coins and such.

>>8340954
The cave was better in the original. At least Nintendo could have used multiple cave styles in All-Stars instead of making them all grassland. Why would the inside of a pyramid be made of dirt and grass?

>>8340486
What does that have to do with Mario 3? Awful opinion, wii was shit aside from the surprisingly decent jrpgs.

>>8340954
that's a good point, all 3 indoor level on that screenshot look the same on SNES, on NES it also uses the same backgrounds but the different palettes give a different vibe

All Stars was the first version I played, therefore in my mind its better

>>8341714
This. It's probably all nostalgia.
I played SMAS more as a kid and have huge nostalgia for everything about it.

>>8340384
No.

>>8340954
For some reason, I love reading and collecting charts like these.

>>8341841
Share some

>>8340384
I played All-Stars first and then GBA version. I still find NES is superior in some ways but I did re-buy All-Stars for Wii not long ago.

>>8340954
I thought inexplicable wooden door inside a cave was soul

awful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhYMtJrfTLY
great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raw9uZaQdEw
legend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Raq53Z11g

>>8342364

Did they fix the brick glitch for the Wii re-release?

>>8342364

>>8342376
it's not a glitch so no they didn't

>>8342191

>>8342453
You know what annoys me the most about these changes?

The paintings. They're supposed to look like, you know, PAINTINGS. Not fucking pre-renders. Missed the point so fucking hard.

>>8342191
Like you want the all the available SMB 3 vs SMW chars right? I have a lot of them in my collection.

>>8342709
Upload them to mega or something please

>>8340954

I agree with almost everything in this. People always trash this person but having a critical eye doesn't make you an "autist". It just means you care about something and are talented at appreciating something.

Criticism often sounds like nitpicking because it places much attention on tiny details and thereby suggests these details are more important than they are. But really that inflation of importance is just an artifact of the process of conveying the criticism to others, and it should be expected that those others will mentally filter it out. Naturally many are too stupid to do this.

>>8340995

Yeah that one is silly.

>>8341024

It doesn't matter what they had in mind. If they had something inferior in mind and were forced by hardware limitations or by development resource limitations to create something superior, then so be it. Their original vision is not the ideal. There's no reason for us to prefer an inferior game because it matches the creators' intentions.

>>8340995
>>8343032
Not really. SF2 had a glitch where ryu's fireball came out the wrong colour and it's been kept ever since because the FANS loved it.

>>8343031
misusing the word "censored" is pretty autistic

>>8340384
You're definitely not wrong. It's all in the shitty soundfonts, sound effects, intensity draining aesthetic, and mushy brick action. I'm not gonna go crazy and say it's unplayable or bad or anything, but it is inferior.

>>8340384
The All-Stars version is the one with soul.

>>8340954
Now here's a ROM hack I would play: one that takes the soulful stuff from the NES version and places it back into the SNES version, with obvious tweaks so it's still 16-bit, but much closer to the original than the remade stuff. I'd especially like the sound effects to more closely resemble the NES games.

It can't be THAT hard to do, can it?

>>8343501
>It can't be THAT hard to do, can it?
It cannot be done. It's like the new voices of Bugs Bunny and Mickey Mouse. They will always be shitter.

>>8343034
SNES is the superior version tho. GBA wuth ereader levels almost gets there but I find the voice clips detracting.

>>8340954
Why is this image even controversial in any way? How are they wrong with these critiques?

>>8340954
>cool aesthetic art
>cool green fireball
was it autism?

>>8343446
Not understanding jokes is a sign of autism, anon. You might want to get checked.

>>8340384
The visual identity of the games was lost entirely in the All Stars version. You can argue about how attractive the original games were, but they were all quite distinct.

>>8342973
I can drop them here now.

>>8342453
Bowser and Toadstool's portraits are the only part that I agree wtih. DS version was good.

>>8344079
>DS version was good.
pffffffft hahahahahahaha no

>>8343775
Go ahead then

>>8344351
Ok then!

>>8340384
Nintendo All-Stars was my first ever video game so I think its graphics have the most SOUL.

>>8344568
>clearly made in MS Paint
Fucking soul

Oh shit I posted the wrong ones.
Let me correct it.

>>8344578
>secret area gives you rewards you can use if you want to
This isn't a flaw, if you want to walk your ass back there every time you die in a level go for it

>>8344578
just don't pick up the feather? I'll never understand you try-hards.

>>8344591
Hey I only collect the charts, read them and drop them for anons who want to read it. I don't agree with everything the charts says.

>>8344568
>>8344571
>>8344578
>>8344580
>>8344592
>>8344594
VGHHH SOVL overdose...

>>8344614

>>8341683

Read the last part of what I said...

>>8340384
First you should stop displaying it at a fucking 16:9 aspect ratio

>>8340954
/Thread

>>8340954
Airships on NES have different colors on each world, as well as differently colored skies that indicate time of day and climate. All Stars make them all look the same.

All Stars also removed the powerup outlines at the top of some outdoor levels.

>>8344592
Based. Does All Stars do anything right?

>>8345691
I personally am fond of the reverb added to sound effects when inside cave and castle levels. Also, the backgrounds in fortresses and water levels are rather nice.

>>8345691

>>8346403
NES has unique transformations while SNES is all reused assets.

>>8346403
>>8344619
>>8344592
>>8344580
etc etc

Why is it so fucking hard for people not to have blurry screenshots and/or keep the aspect ratio intact? It's not rocket science FFS

it certainly doesn't help make the author look good
>t. someone who can't even into screenshots

>>8340384
Both are pretty good to be honest

>>8344594

I honestly didn't know this... The older Mario games are pure magic when individuals are still discovering secrets about them decades later

>>8340954
hehe that's pretty funny

>>8340954
A few of these are a bit silly, but it's absolutely true that these sorts of little details are what separate SMB3 from the All-Stars version. The NES game had a very unique art style, while I can only really describe the SNES release as "a generic platformer". It's a perfectly good port, and the ability to save is absolutely nice. But I'll always go back to the NES version. SMB3 is probably the only title on All Stars that I feel this way about, though: SMB1, 2, and Lost Levels don't really lose as much, in my opinion.

>>8341634
This is a good point, too. The sound design is a lot less "punchy" in All-Stars, which is one of my gripes with World, as well.

>>8350645
Well, it kind of fits with the general aesthetic of SMW. I don't know how to describe it. I just have a hard time imagining the punchy NES sounds on SMW, like they wouldn't go well together. But yeah, I'd love a ROM hack that ports the NES sounds forward to SMAS.

>>8340954
This is actually legitimately genius bait.

>>8341242
>Maybe it was never a cave

It's literally an underground maze construct, the fuck else it is if not a cave?

>>8346403
I actually like the SNES version more, it gave you parity with the rest of the world the game was set in. You'd have the seahorse thing from SMB2, Reznor, Yoshi, and the mole from SMW, Donkey Kong, etc.

>>8350701
>seahorse

>>8350701
>seahorse

>>8344079
it's not as bad as people make it out to be but luigi's backflip just trivializes the whole game, and the other characters don't have much goin for em when caps exist.

>>8350701
Actually, It's name is Ostro.

bumping for an update from the anon who was making all-stars mario madness with sprites closer to the manual art

>>8340986
>Facts
Retard

>>8340384
no, it has plenty of soul

>>8340954
unironically this. all-stars version just feels like the equivalent of a shitty texture pack

>>8351302
Mario What??..

>>8351338
worse. its a shitty texture pack with worse music, sounds, and broken brown brick physics

>>8351972
No, no, no and no.

Die in your sleep, hater.

>tfw nobody is countering with the gifs I made
So you gave up resisting autistfag ...

>>8340954
>NOOOOO IT'S DIFFERENT SO IT'S BAD REEEEEE
Was it autism?

>>8342647
The only ones that actually did look like paintings in the original were Peach and Bowser. The rest always looked like pre-renders.

>>8340954
Now THIS is a real Mario Monk! I wish to know more of your capabilities! Any way I can reach you fren?

>>8340384
Meh, when i was a kid my dad bought me the super mario advance 4 version with the gba in japanese, i will always think this game is full of soul, i like the nes version but i guess the card minigame is what made the game more fun, also original mario bros minigame