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Older editions of the Metal Gear Solid titles are being removed from digital storefronts. According to an announcement by Konami, the licenses for historical footage used in the games have expired. As such, the publisher is no longer able to sell certain digital copies of the titles starting on November 8, 2021. The removal is only temporary. Konami will work “towards making these products available for purchase once again,” as it renews the footage licenses.

how important is owning the psychical versions of games?

>> No.8312834

very important. or at least you should download all the good shit and keep them in a backup hard drive.

>> No.8312853

>>8312823
pretty important, but also digital back-ups are good too, like anon said. I'm glad Konami's just outright saying they're renewing the license soon though instead of keeping everyone in the dark about whether it'll come back or not.

>> No.8312862

>>8312853
>glad Konami's just outright saying they're renewing the license soon
"Soon" doesn't mean anything. Also, it might not even be feasible to renew all of them. They may just end up removing or switching out the footage.

>> No.8312870

>>8312823
>“towards making these products available for purchase once again,”
lol i fucking doubt it.

Konami such a rich back catalog but they literally never publish them anywhere.

>> No.8312879
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8312879

>company that released Silent Hill HD collection
>having any kind of assertiveness in resource management

>> No.8312883

>>8312853
>I'm glad Konami's just outright saying they're renewing the license soon though instead of keeping everyone in the dark about whether it'll come back or not.
i may have an unpopular opinion here, but i actually think konami is still a pretty good company.
granted, this opinion is informed by a theory people have that Kojima worked with Konami to stage his exit from the company.

>> No.8312886

>>8312853

>I'm glad Konami's just outright saying they're renewing the license soon though instead of keeping everyone in the dark about whether it'll come back or not.

Nigga they make Pachinko machines and mobile pay to win games out of their old IP now. That is their business model - they ain't coming back.

>> No.8312887

>>8312862
>They may just end up removing or switching out the footage.
if they switch it out, does it actually matter?
>>8312883
>i may have an unpopular opinion here, but i actually think konami is still a pretty good company.
pachislot fan?

>> No.8312890

>>8312886
Hey man, they released the Castlevania Advance Collection on Steam just a little bit ago.
You're almost 100% right.
Keyword "almost"

>> No.8312969

Good thing I own all these games for free by downloading them online. Get owned digital buyers

>> No.8312989

>>8312823
IMAGINE A WORLD WITHOUT METAL GEAR

GO

>> No.8313013

>>8312823
>Konami will work “towards making these products available for purchase once again,” as it renews the footage licenses.

Wouldn't it just be easier to recreate these in-game so you don't have to bother with this?

>> No.8313027

>>8312823
>how important is owning the psychical versions of games?
Completely unimportant. Physical versions have disappeared from the shelves, like, a decade ago, while you can STILL purchase digital ones. If you've purchased either, you will be able to continue playing it indefinitely regardless of storefront removals.

>> No.8313041

Just save all the files on a big server, put them on a blockchain, dark web etc

>> No.8313092

>>8313041
mgs3 gets released by Konami as a NFT only one person can now own the game.

>> No.8313123

>>8312823
Can I still download it if I bought it already?

>> No.8313325

>>8313123

Who the fuck cares if it’s all encrypted and shit

>> No.8313336

>>8312887
>if they switch it out, does it actually matter?
I guess it depends on what they switch it out with. For example, they might use a video of me fucking your mom

>> No.8313338
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8313338

>>8312823
>metal gear solid delisted because of stock footage MPEGs of rockets and people in a lab messing with test tubes
like pottery

>> No.8313439

>>8312823
>the licenses for historical footage used in the games have expired
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>> No.8313581

>>8312823
That's a pretty reasonable explanation, and also a decent reason not to use stock footage, or write in such a windbag way that you have explanations of its concepts that don't need historical stock footage playing in the background to illustrate tangiential points.

>> No.8313591

>>8312887
>pachislot fan?
not at all, but I can respect it as a business move.
I also may be ignorant of Konami, but besides Metal Gear Survive being a stinker, and them basically ducking out of the games industry besides their sports games, I feel like they've actually kept a good image for themselves.
Again, I'm basing a lot of this on a conspiracy theory that Kojima and Konami worked together on largely friendly terms to paint Konami as an evil corporation and Kojima as a punished artist. A lot of this idea comes from Metal Gear Solid V and comparisons drawn between Mother Base and George Orwell's 1984 dystopia: when Kojima was fired, Kotaku and I think a couple other outlets posted articles about how Konami's working conditions were "like 1984" with surveillance throughout the offices, grueling conditions, and so forth.
Then you also have the scene where Huey is ejected from Mother Base and he wears Kojima's glasses during that scene. There's the whole debate Huey has over DD being a wolf, while Venom and the others see DD as a dog (or perhaps a symbolic member of the wolfpack) ... so the line of comparison can be drawn, if Huey is to Kojima and Mother Base is to Konami, that Huey/Kojima is sort of the unhinged mad scientist/artist, and Mother Base/Konami is the starving wolfpack, out for its own.
Anyway what I'm trying to say is that Konami, besides MG Survive, hasn't even bothered trying to make games in the current social/political climate, focused solely on making money, and I think that's actually respectable. They've simply checked out instead of making movie games for casual audiences or fortnite style cash grabs.
I'm not sure if I'm making a lot of sense, but have an industrial track about the absolute state:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6gxc78d09o

>> No.8313686

>>8313591
>I'm not sure if I'm making a lot of sense
you're not

>> No.8313719

>>8313686
yea i'm feeling kinda schizo rn.

>> No.8313753

>>8313719
Admitting it is the first step towards recovery

>> No.8313762

>>8313753
Fuck off, retard.
You deserve what's coming.

>> No.8313772

>>8313762
tell me, anon. Is this "Kojima" in the room with you right now?

>> No.8313776

does this rule just not apply to movies or am i just not noticing?

>> No.8313810
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>>8312870
They've still never offered Snatcher as a digital download to this day despite having a fully localized version available.

>> No.8313860

>>8313591
There was an interview I read with someone who worked at Konami and knew Kojima. when the interviewer asked him about why Kojima was fired, he basically said that since Kojima was receiving a check no matter if the game sold well or not, he would just keep spending more money trying to make the game better and better and it would hurt the other people at Konami's salaries. Konami absolutely could have handled him leaving better, but that's not how business works and they had every right to punish Kojima for what were apparently repeated instances of budget-pushing and overdeveloping.

>> No.8313927

>digital
If it's not sega channel it's not retro

>> No.8314109

>>8313772
No.

>> No.8314219

why the fuck hasn't MGS4 ever been ported?

>> No.8314226

>>8313927
I'm still pissed off that america never got physical releases of kino game like Pulseman and Alien Soldier because of this bullshit

>> No.8315109

>>8313776
depends on the terms of the license and how much you're willing to pay.

>> No.8315310

>>8314219
I doubt there are people willing (and perhaps, able) to dig into PS3 nightmare architecture code, just like RDR1

>> No.8315429

>>8315310
>I doubt there are people willing (and perhaps, able) to dig into PS3 nightmare architecture code
Valkyria Chronicles, Way of the Samurai 3 & 4, Heavy Rain, Beyond: Two Souls, Journey and the Yakuza series all say hello.
>just like RDR1
Also had an Xbox 360 version

>> No.8316879

>>8315429
RDR1's code was apparently a mess across all consoles. Apparently the reason there's no PC port was because they had no idea why it worked on consoles and converting it to PC would have been even harder

>> No.8316884

ive said it before
ill say it again:
archive everything, even if you dont want it
chances are someone might want it down the road

>> No.8316906

>>8316879
>they had no idea why it worked on consoles
in a very real sense, it actually DIDNT work on consoles most of the time
ive absolutely never had more issues with a PS3 game as i did with RDR. the only way i got it to run AT ALL on PS3 was by refusing to download any updates/patches
the treefiddy version was marginally better, but even that would inevitably fuck itself to death if you played too long as it leaked memory like a fucking sieve

>> No.8316979

>>8316906
I've never played the PS3 version, but on the 360 the game ran like dogshit whenever in Blackwater. It didn't even need to be during the day. The game would just refuse to render the roads there at points.

If I played Undead Nightmare for long enough the zombies would be impossible to kill because their heads would disappear and even if you unloaded into them with every gun on Earth they just couldn't die

>> No.8317979

God I'm so fucking glad I still own physical copies of the MGS games. Thanks for the reminder to back them up.
>>8312853
>I'm glad Konami's just outright saying they're renewing the license soon though
they could have paid for the rights to that footage at any time, but they didn't.