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>> No.8295049
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>> No.8295052
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>> No.8295063
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That ant in Gate World was lifted from Bio Menace and redrawn.

>> No.8295071

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJLPJTSbp1g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCBL33NKvPA

Totally not Spybreak guys, do not sue!

>> No.8295082

>>8295052
Was it determined that those graphics were from some sort of generic art pack?

>> No.8295107

>>8295082
Given that Duke Nukem 2 also ripped graphics from Turrican and Savage I doubt that.

>> No.8295319

>>8295030
Those films are seminal in inspiring FF/Chrono/zelda as well as numerous others. I see all kinds of tips of the hat. Especially in Laputa/Nausicaa. Its even in the music as you said.

>> No.8295754
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8295754

Another Chrono Trigger one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGQR3Chf9hE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dujuo7LqE-U

>> No.8295820

https://youtu.be/hLdMIYMSHu4
This probably just barely counts as retro but it’s so funny I feel the need to bring it up. The composer may have been a rampant plagiarist but he sure has good taste

>> No.8295927
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>>8295030
The Castlevania cover doesn't outright plagiarize Frazetta's art, but it's creatively steals from several sources. Simon's Quest background is outright from D&D Ravenloft art though.

>> No.8295959
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>> No.8295994

>>8295030
Funky Mario Underground
https://youtu.be/uqnU8wAyHdQ

>> No.8296006

>>8295994
Which is plagiarized to begin with.
https://youtu.be/ZX5ef_KAZlY

>> No.8296074

>>8295030

Dude, joe hisaishi and Ghibli work reverberates utterly and completely through the culture. it is hard to understate how much, too.

about the only one that didn't take from them at some point is probably friggin Sugiyama, (maaaybe you could say a couple tracks from EVO). Even Nobuo dipped into that well a couple times.

>> No.8296090

>>8296006
damn, what a banger. thanks for posting

>> No.8296096

>>8296090
It's a sick tune. Someone made a Famicom style cover of it, which is neat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeVNm9ABFFY

>> No.8296135

>>8296090

lee ritenour's whole catalog is worth attention

>> No.8296145

>>8296006
>tfw nintendo did not hire that man... just ripped off his work

>> No.8296157

>tfw you realise all the programmers of the japanese games and system from 3rd gen were all esoteric jazz and enka music fanboys/girls

>tfw you realise most western developers were prog rock/metal fanboys

>> No.8296163

>>8295030
>>8296006
>>8296096

This is a lift from a Miles song
https://youtu.be/ODNbsRI8mDg?t=607

>> No.8296235

>>8296006
And that's why I directly quoted the op, as he posted this song.

>> No.8296301

>>8296006
Which was also plagiarised
https://youtu.be/uT2bpVOkG1U

>> No.8296303

>>8296163
>>8296301
Always nice to see Miles appear in the most unlikely of places

>> No.8296885
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>>8295030

>> No.8296893

>>8295071
>literally has a map called DM_Morpheus

>> No.8296896
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>>8295030

>> No.8296907
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DNt3ZaS6zQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqd5Z3_LYUU&list=PLiJs4SEJ9DOxgY7cv9zy3Ki5ZVhHR6qwi&index=3

Chris said "I just playing a lot of Ys at the time haha".

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>> No.8296923
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>Original Character
>Do Not Steal

>> No.8297013

>>8296893
Which has three high-rise buildings extending well into the stratosphere. And name of the music track playing in it? Save Me. Pretty clever Matrix reference right there. The Matrix was hot shit back then so they had to make several references, even bordering on plagiarism (Botpack #10).

>(...) Michiel wrote something that sounded SO MUCH like the Propellerhead
song that people laughed and said “BOY are we gonna get sued!”.

>> No.8297094

>>8296915
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqAsGDgvPyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rysiE64fkvY

>> No.8297132

>>8295030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr8lfW0fqV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYuyWqp_4Dw
I'm sure this one is well-known, but I was devastated when I learned the Stage 1 theme from Bayou Billy wasn't original

>> No.8297143

>>8296907
Almost certain that Simon himself is traced from something else. Someone just needs to find it. Hunt around D&D art and fantasy books. The original guy is probably holding a sword or something.

>> No.8297192

>>8296907
Even the Ravenloft logo.
Steal from the best, I guess lol

>> No.8297301

>>8296235
Sorry man, I never really check out more than two youtube links in a single post. Bad habit perhaps, but a reactionary one I've defaulted to because of youtube link spamers during music threads, that is the more links one posts the less likely I'm going to check them out.

>> No.8297338
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https://youtu.be/PsVMC2PAEIQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6v1mEBhQL8

>> No.8297381

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w-tiRnac2k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb4hc1a7Vio

>> No.8297443
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>what level of plagiarism are you guys on
>>"oh I dunno... our songs sound similar to some obscure european band from the 60s if you listen to the refrain at half speed or something"
>you are like tiny babies. Watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3IzFc_6ISg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F01UTYg79KY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6CR8oeiK6M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCpeuJ6swro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLdMIYMSHu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cKtSlsYVEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWxM4gQUc2w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48PJGVf4xqk

>> No.8297506

>>8297132
yet its still an accomplishment to get that much funk out of an NES. also:>>8296157

>> No.8297975
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>>8295030
>>8296006
Hmm

>> No.8298154
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZaSgnYLceQ

>> No.8298210

I've literally never made this connection all these years despite Metroid obviously having countless alien references/settings grabbed.

>> No.8298220

>>8295927
If being influenced by Frazetta is plagiarism then 90% of fantasy high art is plagiarism. The dudes the goat.

>> No.8298228
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>>8296923

>> No.8298248

>>8295754
This is kind of a stupid comparison. A lot of songs sound similar.

>> No.8298284

>>8295030
Not exactly plagiarism, but a very large portion of Uematsu's catalog (ie the Final Fantasy OSTs) is riffing on prog rock from the 70s.

>> No.8298314
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>>8296157
>tfw you realise most western developers were prog rock/metal fanboys
So were Japanese composers, Nobuo Uematsu and Koji Kondo were both big ELP fans.

>> No.8298336

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKsQXtAmPCM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlEKbSRvqGo

>> No.8298365

>>8298220
Frazetta was endlessly plagiarized. Yeah, I agree that he's the GOAT. It's kind of great though seeing two of my fave things mix like that. Frazetta and Castlevania.

>> No.8298376
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>>8295030
the chair alien is ripped off from Planet of the Vampires 1965

>> No.8298378
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>>8295071
We can go deeper...

>> No.8298480

>>8296915
Extra points for the Giger style ribbed platform in the Turrican screen

>> No.8298506

>>8295030
As far as I'm concerned virtually every JRPG dev/composer ever claims to be a fan of Ghibli

>> No.8298640
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvtMNV8JT1A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FHpmn-KYec

>> No.8298670

>>8297443
How about this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X1VXbIjZqE

>> No.8298680

>>8298314
No joke. First time I listened to Tarkus, I was able to imagine a multi-tiered final battle. Speaking of which, there are hints of FF6's final battle in this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veSKgz9VMuk

>> No.8298695

>>8298314
I hope not. Their taste can’t be that shit

>> No.8298707

>>8297443
Not even mad at him. Guy has good taste

>> No.8298771

https://youtu.be/qYJkol00JCE
https://youtu.be/5_1lLkftb6c
Uncle Jesse zone. Funnily enough Janet Jackson would use this same melody almost to the T on one of her songs

>> No.8298798

>>8297443
Damn, the guy crashed and burned hard, too. They tapped him for the Dragon Ball Kai soundtrack, and he just couldn't help himself. He'd been able to fly under the radar until then because it was just video games, but once you start plagiarizing music in a major worldwide anime release, well, you done fucked up.

>> No.8298806
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>>8298376
Prometheus \s is almost a remake of Planet of the Vampires

>> No.8298858

>>8298695
okay mu

>> No.8298946

>>8298798
The thing is, he’d been doing major composing work for DBZ before Kai and not just for games. He did the entire soundtracks for half of the movies plus History of Trunks, and he was still plagerising like a madman even then. The ending theme to Super Android 13 is so obviously ripped off from Immigrant Song by Loop Zoop that it’s not even funny
https://youtu.be/DmqY4IQ2S6E

I think it’s worth noting that what likely got him fired wasn’t the Stratovarius knock offs but the fact he ripped off tracks from Avatar and the Terminator. Having Journey’s lawyers getting pissy at you probably wasn’t a big concern for Toei but having James Cameron, Skydance and the long dick of 20th Century Fox ready to strike was probably why they balked

>> No.8298949

>>8298858
I’m sorry, I like prog music and their first two albums are absolutely great. But everything after that is painfully overwrought and pretentious I can’t take them seriously or even enjoy them whatsoever. 22 minute prog suites are one thing. Double albums full of 20 minute piano sonatas and experimental medievil jazz is another

>> No.8298963
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>>8298228

>> No.8299015

>>8298949
You fell for a 40 year old meme spread by faggots like Bangs and Christgau.

>> No.8299026

>>8298946
Even then, I think, he might've gotten away with the Dragon Ball Kai shit were it not for the fact that, unlike when DBZ originally airing in Japan, DBZ was now huge in burgerland, and it was the age of the internet and Youtube, so not only were far more people going to notice, but it was far more likely that the companies involved would notice. Had DBKai aired in the early 90's with the same plagiarized soundtracks, I highly doubt they would have noticed at the time (maybe later, once the internet became widespread).

>> No.8299041

>>8299026
No one noticed until the last episode was about to air. He almost got away with it.

>> No.8299669

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYbINBnYeFA&list=PLA25972A65E1F8E36&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aDE6rVxELE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uaFaPIPjik

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCaRxoZtDHI

>> No.8299674

koji kondo bros.....
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLPG9enjcZPNr6jUsy66LPKRA8xdBtLSMW

>> No.8299858 [DELETED] 

>>8298963
They were both in development at the same time for years. A rare situation where it was actually just coincidence, unless Miyamoto had corporate spies in Hollywood

>> No.8299884

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPOHX3tJKsQ This WHOLE game is just filled with plagiarism

>> No.8299914

>>8296923
what do you mean? isnt it Peter Pan?

>> No.8299918

>>8295927
that man has a great ass

>> No.8299935

I assume everyone already knows these but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43aj3ag3H1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubwPeQmjdb0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_6ChXTP9TA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=audBZo6O3xU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5KVMnS9zgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuIAPU6Gpaw

among others

>> No.8299951

>>8298336

eh, standard discobeat is all they have in common. Tekken is a drum machine, too. Nah, dont buy it.

>>8298771

Rhythm section completely different. And many things share this chord progression. Nah...

>> No.8299974

More Mario

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0Crqbrzhik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C382wc4StOw

>> No.8299990

>>8298314
Every other Nobuo Uematsu battle/boss theme is basically this song: https://youtu.be/SPIK9wUXogo

>> No.8300052

https://youtu.be/PRc0Z3kU7aw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xldfaf4NGw

>> No.8300076

>>8297443
speaking of Journey rip offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDpZ9Qg761I

>> No.8300112
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I know Giger and 20th Century Fox are easy mode but I think it's funny that this stage is literally ALIEN complete with facehuggers.

>> No.8300137

>>8295754
Wow that song and album art is godtier. Wtf

>> No.8300170

>>8295071
meh...

>> No.8300196

>>8300137
Check out this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMXTn_WEYsE

>> No.8300335
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>>8299914
>Peter Pan
>Robin Hood
Lots of Dickensian hero trope inspirations.
but most importantly
>Legend
Most of the big visual points look like they're lifted directly from this.
>>8299858
>They were both in development at the same time for years
Legend was an international release with a shit ton of set pictures and promotional material.
There is no fucking way someone working on swords & sorcery fantasy entertainment was unaware of Legend at the time.

This site looks like it has a bunch of the materials, this is just the American stuff from closer to release:
www.figmentfly.com/legend/index.shtml

>> No.8300341

>>8295754
This one is a stretch. Bell sounds in a 3/4 time, super original idea.

>> No.8300354
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I see the eternal Jewry has fully penetrated the minds of ordinary people. Yes yes it's all plagiarism, no one can be influenced by anything and you should all litigate to get money out of anyone you can.

>> No.8300425

>>8300335
I don't see how Zelda looks like Legend though. Feels like some guy's forced meme on here.

>> No.8300447

>>8300425
The vast majority on here are forced memes apart from the Dragon Ball Z guy who was very bad at hiding it, copying full soundtracks wholesale.

>> No.8300885
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Im willing to bet most of this game's graphics were made from scanning images and converting them to low res. It really shows with how poorly all enemies are animated despite looking phenomenal when static

>> No.8300894

>>8295030
I wouldn't say plagiarism, most of the things are are references.

>> No.8301326

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTNpKZs_Sao

>> No.8301432
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>>8300425
>it's dangerous to go alone

>> No.8301437
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>>8300425
>take this

>> No.8301440
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>>8300425
hmm...

>> No.8301446
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8301446

>>8300425
just another coincidence
at least she isn't a little ball of light...
oh
wait

>> No.8301456
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>>8300425
>so i says to her
>i says
>i'm gonna kidnap ya princess
>yous gonna use ya unique powas to corrupt magic
>to make me stronga
>and yous gonna like it
>it's gonna be frickin legendary sweet

>> No.8301465
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>> No.8301596 [DELETED] 

>>8300335
>>8301432
>>8301437
>>8301440
>>8301446
>>8301456
Oh no! Unrelated media contains some of the same genre tropes present across all fantasy! This is what mental illness looks like, assuming it's not just weak bait

>> No.8301696

>>8301596
>Unrelated media
In the art industry they're called "references."
The source MEDIUM is irrelevant.
The question of plagiarism arises when the reference and final product (here, a movie and video game) share very close similarities, sometimes 1:1 copying.
Homages and parodies fall under a different category, as both purposely use the reference source to create something new without trying to pass off it off as completely original work.
And I already addressed genre tropes.

You are what fanboying dumbasses look like when they can't keep their dick strippers off the keyboard.

>> No.8301712 [DELETED] 

>>8301696
>In the art industry
Ok so it's just weak bait

>> No.8301719
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8301719

>>8301712

>> No.8301758

>>8301696
But none of that is 1:1 copying. Legend didn't invent old people, fairies, swords, white people, or pig monsters.

>> No.8301792

>>8301758
You present a very strong case... for restructuring adolescent education.

>> No.8302106

>>8299918
That's an average ass if you get up out of your chair for more than a few minutes a day. I recommend squats.

>> No.8303147

>>8300885
most of the art stuff itt is inspiration, this is objectively plagiarism

>> No.8303160

>>8300425
It's not a forced meme on here, I remember looking for the movie back in like 2002 because everyone in the Zelda community back then talked about how Ocarina of Time copied it.

It's such an old idea you even got gannon-banned for perpetuating it.

>> No.8303259

>>8301596
These threads are usually just full of fags that say “gotcha”
Of course there are clearly ones that are absolutely plagiarism like >>8301465

>> No.8303402 [DELETED] 

>>8303259
Oh I know. If they wanted to make a halfway decent claim of Zelda "plagiarism" all they'd have to do is mention Hydlide but these zoomies don't actually know shit about games

>> No.8303498

>>8300885
>>8303147
I remember there was an article about this a while back, the paleoartist or someone knew people working on the game and let them scan their work or something?

>> No.8303839

>>8303402
legally you cant plagiarize gameplay

>> No.8304782

>>8303259
>>8303402
>there are clearly ones that are absolutely plagiarism like
I swear to fuck you spergs can't connect the dots unless you're presented with the simplest of infographics.
>>8303839
>legally you cant plagiarize gameplay
Laws don't necessarily have to be broken for unethical behavior to occur.

>> No.8304976 [DELETED] 

>>8304782
No one is taking your bait. Try Hydlide next time

>> No.8304983

>>8304782
What’s wrong, your “gotcha” posts are mostly bullshit
But have fun with your circle jerking

>> No.8305642

>>8304976
>everything i don't like is bait
>>8304983
go tell your tard wrangler you're done with unsupervised screen time
I have no idea how a sperg can become so fucking hyper-defensive that anything close to what I posted could be considered "gotcha." Just pure psychosis.
At least you could be less of a newfag and call it "bait" like the other Nintendies fanboy.

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>>8305642
Pathetic

>> No.8305670

>>8305642
>Nintendies
how to spot someone that's mentally ill
nowhere was there mentioned anything about a company

>> No.8305695

>>8305670
>nowhere was there mentioned anything about a company
What game do you think is being discussed?
>>8305646
>zoomer memes

>> No.8305708

>>8305695
>What game do you think is being discussed?
a bunch of games, but I see you are so mentally ill you think it's just Nintendo

>> No.8305716

>>8305708
>a bunch of games
literally retarded

>> No.8306164

>>8304782
there's literally nothing wrong with borrowing gameplay elements(and hopefully improve on them)

>> No.8306212
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8306212

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C9JbK7slrk&t=204s&ab_channel=Fear%3ATheHomeOfHorror

>> No.8306249
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8306249

I made a thing
>just flip it, guys

>> No.8306341

>>8297143
>fantasy
could be literally anything, probably flash gordan with a space pistol or some shit

>> No.8306346

>>8296923
>noooo you can't just model your character off an archetypal welsh hero!!!

>> No.8306348

>>8300112
oh man nobody show this guy Contra...

>> No.8306351

>>8300425
>hero saves a princess from a demon
I can guarantee you none of the figures mentioned in this thread were the origin of this particular little nugget.

>> No.8306353

>>8301440
>>8301696
>the hero encounters the fae on his quest
this shit is literally thosuands of years old you undereducated clod

>> No.8306383

>>8301465
>When the publisher of one such clone, Xanadu, approached ORIGIN about distributing that game in the U.S., the Garriotts flew to Japan to discuss the idea. They were also looking for someone to convert the text in Ultima IV into Japanese as well as convert the program for the new breed of Japanese computers so it would reach a bigger audience in that nation. Xanadu turned out to be a top-down view, tile-graphics game closely resembling an Ultima, but Garriott didn't consider it close enough to be a copyright infringement. That is until halfway through a presentation of Xanadu, when a familiar scene filled the screen, a high-resolution picture showing the interior of a shop. The illustration was a direct copy of one of Denis Loubet's pictures in the Ultima III manual, and looked as if the designers had literally digitized Loubet's original art and added color. The president of the company put his hand over the monitor and laughed nervously, but found it pointless to continue the demonstration after stumbling into yet another shop illustrated with ORIGIN artwork. These weren't the only such examples of Loubet's work that had been diverted to Xaruuiu, and the Japanese company wound up settling out of court with them, paying a large settlement and changing the art in the game.

>> No.8306447

>>8306353
not to mention this wasn't a thing until OoT

>> No.8306597

>>8306348
Teehee
Except Gradius II FC wasn’t released outside of Japan so I thought I’d show you something new.

>> No.8307567

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3l1QVqX3uA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

>> No.8307604

>>8300335
Grasping at straws, big time.

>> No.8307632
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8307632

>>8300335
Hmmmmmm suspicious

>> No.8307643

>>8295030
arent there people who say metroid is the precursor to dark souls?

>> No.8307674

>>8300354
you have never created anything

>> No.8308209

>>8307643
it is. dark souls is basically a 3d metroidvania

>> No.8308440

Policenauts and Snatcher borderline on plagiarism

>> No.8308452

>>8308440
>borderline
nah they are straight up copies
doesn't make them any less enjoyable

>> No.8308460

>>8307567
Speaking of Chrono Trigger:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkkDDp9ytKA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myn40Ugeucw

>> No.8308470

>>8308460
?

>> No.8308471

>>8308460
jesus christ one of the greatest jrpgs of all time is nothing but a bunch of stolen content thrown together

>> No.8308474

>>8308471
the drumbeat isn't even the same tempo, how does this even sound the same to you?

>> No.8308480

>>8308474
>>8308470
you must be deaf, get dem ears checked

>> No.8308482

>>8308480
and you must be tone deaf, keep practicing in that shower, maybe you'll hit on key eventually

>> No.8308519
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>>8308460
God primitive tribal cave women in animal skin grass skirts makes me hard like rock ug.

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8308606

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>> No.8308609

>>8308606
Pillbugs are a real life thing that exist, dude.

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8308625

>>8296885
Jagi/"Wolfkid" also has a blink and you miss it, poorly done exploding animation, that nobody else in the game has
They weren't even trying to be subtle with it

>> No.8308627

>>8295959
Truly beauty is in the eye of the cacodemon.

>> No.8308650

nintentards out in full force itt

>> No.8308659
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8308659

>>8298220
Frazetta was basically a "student" of Howard Pyle, same way most modern fantasy artists are "students" of Frazetta. Doesn't change the fact that he was naturally talented.

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>>8298220
>>8308659

>> No.8308707

>>8298220
https://www.zeldadungeon.net/frank_frazetta_inspiration_behind_zelda_artwork_passes_away_at_age_82/

>> No.8308710

>>8308460
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv6tuzHUuuk

I always thought it was a copy of this song to be honest.

>> No.8309079

>>8298154
I wish Jerry or someone from the show would comment on this.

>> No.8309104 [DELETED] 

Black people ruined this great nation.

>> No.8309183

>>8297338
I'm not sure this is plagiarism, if anything it gives classical music a wider audience. Games have been doing it for decades because it's copyright free.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8_1Lh1g63Y

>> No.8309193

>>8309183
Really I think the whole point of this thread is less about actual plagiarism and more about spotting similarities or inspirations.
I always enjoy finding classical music stuff in vidya.

>> No.8309243

>>8309193
Looking at this thread it seems like you’re only one of the few that feels that way

>> No.8310092

>>8309193
>>8309243
Since so many people seem to have a poor grasp of the definition:

>plagiarize
Essential Meaning of plagiarize
>to use the words or ideas of another person as if they were your own words or ideas
Full Definition of plagiarize
>transitive verb
>to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
>intransitive verb
>to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source

"Plagiarism" is not just producing a 1:1 copying of another's work. The legality of the concept isn't even an issue until monetization comes into play.
The reason most of these posts are from 80s Nintendo is because they did not give a fuck and vidya then was generally considered a temporary novelty.
But make a game today with a jumping plumber or green tunic elf or electric mouse and find out how much Nintendo tolerates plagiarism. Fuck it, don't even make a game, flip that shit back on them and make movies.

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8310109

>>8295030

>> No.8310145

Guessing someone beat me to it but I can't be bothered to dig through all the links.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-x7JLXsZk-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPhfbtjqWM8

>> No.8310280

>>8308603
>>8308606
>>8308608
autism

>> No.8310296

>>8310280
Miyazaki fans are like that
>watch someone sing praises of Megaman Legends in a youtube video
>constant refer back Miyazaki as an obvious influence on it
>not a peep about Yatterman and Time Bokan

>> No.8310297

>>8310109
That's a fangame, bunghole.

>> No.8310342
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8310342

>>8298154
>Music by Kazunori Maruyama

>> No.8310361

At what point does plagiarism become an homage?
Like mother 3 is very intentionally ripping off the batman theme with the bat fights theme, but does that make it okay because they did it in good faith?
Theres no line for any of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KIDtrS9VDM&ab_channel=GilvaSunner

>> No.8310376

>>8310296
I fucking can’t stand Miyazaki and I hate ghiblitards just as much. Motherfuckers probably haven’t even seen Castle of Cagliostro

>> No.8310738

>>8308710
>keep thinking about this song, figure it must be from some one hit wonder
>these guys also did 'manic monday', another song I thought was another one hit wonder
>they had several hits as a matter of fact

Huh, are The Bangles one of those bands that you think are one hit wonders but actually aren't?

>> No.8310747

>>8299669
and that, is why i love battle garegga.

>>8299884
missing the point of the thread.

>>8308460
deaf as a post

>>8308710
deaf

>>8310145
deaf

>> No.8311298

every single scifi game is in some shape or form derivative of Alien. prove me wrong

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8311428

>>8311298
>prove me wrong
Check out this sci-fi game that has no resemblance to Alien whatsoever.

>> No.8312167

>>8311428
It gets worse. The player characters in this and in the arcade version look like staff from the old 1960s star trek show. If you have ever seen the arcade original of this, there's a lot of background stuff that's basically green version of Aliens.

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8312209

>>8311298

>> No.8312263

>>8308603
>>8308606
>>8308608
was og samus meant to look like nausicaa?

>> No.8312286

>>8297094
came here to post this

>> No.8312345

>>8310280
you can't deny they took inpsiration from the poisoned forest.

>> No.8312348

I'm pretty sure that mechanical spider thing in ninja gaiden 3 stage 1 is identical to the lower part of the mechanical flying things in shadow of the ninja's stage 2

>> No.8312369

>>8301465
Liking the creative liberties on the ladies.

>> No.8312375

>>8311428
>Xenophobe
Based

>> No.8312389
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8312389

>>8295030
Does it count if it's a 'new' game copying a retro game?
Gears 1 boss fight is heavily inspired by the Crocomire boss fight, down to it's death.
Super Metroid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONxKm8uApSc
Gears
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDZfYdy5ljc

>> No.8312469
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8312469

>>8312389
That reminds me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD1zZSddOFk

Pic related as well, Toby "Kissy" Masuyo predates Samus Aran by more than a year.

>> No.8312481
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8312481

Shadow of the Comet sure has an all star cast of characters...

>> No.8312624
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8312624

>>8312348
Shoot, my memory is really failing me

>> No.8312631

>>8295959
This is more inspiration

>> No.8314196

>>8312631
they were "inspired" to put all the major features in the exact same positions with similar coloring
even included the diamond crease on the upper lip
truly inspired

>> No.8314327

>>8299669
More video games should cover house tunes

>> No.8314353

>>8312631
Yeah no, this one was definitely plagiarised but meh
I love me a cacodemon

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8314365

>>8314364

>> No.8314367

>>8310361
There's a very clear "joke" here and you're intended to immediately realize that they're referencing the Batman theme, which makes it a homage.

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8314529

>>8295030

Not outright plagiarism, but I definitely get some vibes. Akira Yamaoka has said that he was into Portishead as well.

https://youtu.be/w2cK8mOG4Q8
https://youtu.be/VoSoZyiHZ6o

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8314598

>>8297443
>mfw capsule obtain

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8314691

>>8295030

>> No.8314729

>>8312286
I like how it had a happy ending. The original composer of Turrican put out an album, but he knew that whoever plagiarized the TF music for the Commodore 64 port made that an iconic piece of history for the franchise. So he reached to the original composer of the Transformers music and got him to perform a whole new track for the soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jRysjmbnpM

>> No.8315773

Panzer Dragoon ripped off Dune, Moebius and Nausicaa

>> No.8315947

Reverse example:
The brilliant theme from Agony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9UTnUcyED0
Was fully plagiarized:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDeQI949nIA

Summary: The theme, by Tim Wright, was stolen by the keyboardist of Dimmu Borgir, Stian Aarstad, and passed off as his own. The rest of the band had no idea until Wright contacted them himself.

>> No.8316134

>>8295030
Did someone say yet another example from Chrono Trigger???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ouo_Dlh0U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUVaZG4gRJ8

I really like both these songs too. I don't really care about this kind of "plagiarism" if the music is good.

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8316221

>>8298378
The more you dig into the original matrix the more you realize literally the entire thing is a mix of dozens of different plagiarized sources. This is why the sequels sucked, they didn't have a decade of material to plagiarize after the first one

>> No.8316270

>>8295754
This is fucking retarded.

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8316346

>>8315773
It also ripped music straight from shenmue saturn. Im glad they used the music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCt-TFzuwmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBD6CEowKRE

>> No.8316420

>>8316221
This is the same for Star Wars

>> No.8316428

Based plagiarists making mockery of the notion that you can "own" an idea.

>> No.8316450

>>8316221

Good artists copy, great artists steal. Everything is a remix, baby.

https://youtu.be/yrW3E6BN5Dg

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8316458

>>8315773
At least they had the decency of getting Moebius to do cover art for them.

>> No.8316509

>>8315773
Youre mistaking plagiarism for influence. Lots of people itt are

>> No.8316527

>>8316509
this for example is plagiarism:
https://youtu.be/LPcJOnwWhF4?t=115
original: https://youtu.be/tESPxv7VHOQ?t=39

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8316562

Nobody posted this yet?

>> No.8316641

>>8316527
Go home, you're drunk

>> No.8316872

>>8316450
like 80% of the clips don't even match up with whats going on with the matrix version lol.
>Someone cracks their neck in one movie
>All movies after that must be copying that one!
Really bad video

>> No.8317024

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HibBnC6SVk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmZX85Jun1s

>> No.8317039

>>8316203
hey, the nazis took the swastika and change its meaning.

>> No.8317064
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8317064

>>8297443
>Okay, maybe I did steal songs. So what? Music is built on plagiarism. If it weren't for someone plagiarizing the Beatles we wouldn't have the Monkees. If someone hadn't ripped off Nirvana, there'd be no Weezer. Oasis, Blur, Pulp? Hah! Alice Cooper, Black Sabbat, Van Halen. Your honor, you take away our right to steal ideas, where are they gonna come from?

>> No.8317374

>>8316562
soul vs soulless

>> No.8317496

>>8297338
While it is plagiarism to copy a 400 year old song, it's also impossible to be sued over it because it predates even the grandfathering in of copyright law

>> No.8317665

I wish we could go back to when games ripped off good music instead of the generishit movie ambient tracks we have now.

>> No.8317839

so many reaches itt

>> No.8317848

>>8316203
I can't believe Hitler ripped off Nintendo

>> No.8318582

>>8316527
take your meds

>> No.8319606

>>8317848
Yeah, that's a thing he tended to do. Also poorly tracing Disney posters.

>> No.8319983

plagiarize my ass

>> No.8321289

so much cringe itt

>> No.8321825

>>8310747
45 seconds on it plays the Zelda Luliby perfectly. I thought it sounded like some electronic remix of it.

>> No.8321830

>>8314529
That's clearly something meant to not be noticed because of the system. That's why they added the over the shoulder camera on the 2nd playthrough so you can spot details and read signs and paper.

>> No.8322572

nintendo musicians are hacks

>> No.8322619

>>8306383
The funny thing is is that Xanadu plays nothing like Ultima

>> No.8323643

>>8322619
Falcom was trying to improve on the formula rather than just copy it. And at the time no one knew how tabletop rpg combat would translate into a video game, so you got several interpretations of it. It was only later that the "j-rpg" formula was settled - either Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy which they then copied for like 30 years later. The genre was originally dynamic with lots of ideas and many fo them using some variation of real time combat. It became stagnant and formulaic much later.

I think the 16-32 bit eras is when they should have major improvements, but all they did was make the graphics prettier and leave the combat alone.

>> No.8323656

>>8295754
Speaking as a classically trained musician, I can confirm that, unlike OP, you are grasping at straws and generally full of shit. There are almost no similarities beyond the extremely superficial between the two tracks.

>> No.8323665

>>8308603
>>8308606
>>8308608
Insects and spore-bearing plants and fungi have all been staples of Western sci-fi paintings from waaaaaaay before Nausicaa, you absolute retard.

>> No.8324542

>>8300076
what journey song

>> No.8324560

metroid uses a really common clock chime

https://youtu.be/QjeISoK3pqs

https://youtu.be/SdWN59fEzIE

>> No.8324561

>>8324560
https://youtu.be/SG8qAqTEHwU

>> No.8325287
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8325287

Related, but the famous X-Men The Animated Series opening music is claimed to be stolen from a 1984 Hungarian action show. I can totally see an American composer ripping off an obscure foreign show in 1992 given that almost no one would have heard of it in America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yNn3astOJI

https://www.denofgeek.com/tv/x-men-the-animated-series-accused-of-plagiarizing-theme-song/

>> No.8325294

>>8324560
>metroid uses a really common clock chime

Not considered plagurism if it is something that's public domain. In fact using public domain in your works is something that's encouraged since that's how the system works. Plagurism carries with it the idea of theft and you can't steal from something that belongs to all of us.

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8325304

>>8295030
Damn, why did I not see it? Metroid makes way more sense now if it's an Alien inspired video game. That's why the original space suit looks so bulky and that's why Samus is a woman. Samus being female was so random originally.

>> No.8325310

>>8319983
fucken whore

>> No.8325316

>>8325287
wow it's literally the same song

makes me wonder how many things I love have actually been stolen wholesale

>> No.8325326

>>8325304
Ridley is literally named Ridley after Ridley Scott

>> No.8325329

>>8325326
Yes, exactly. Like "why is there a dragon called Ridley?". It all fits with Alien = Metroid.

>> No.8325332

>>8325316
It's cheating a bit because that's a metal cover of the theme, albeit one that is not trying to sound like the X-Men theme at all. The original is a bit more of a folksy sound, and the X-men version is synths trying to sound like a guitar so it's not 1-1 copy. But it's very common for composers especially in this era to just sift through records until they found a sound they liked and then just copied it or only tweaked it slightly so it's slightly different.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjcUldWHNQ

>> No.8325335

>>8325332
thats still fucking identical

>> No.8325339

>>8325287
>tomboy short haired karate girl fights niggas in a half life action half cartoon series
this looks absolutely based

>> No.8325341

>>8325339
English doc?!

>> No.8325367

>>8325341
No, it's a hungarian fiction series.

>> No.8325438
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8325438

>>8297143
I don't know about that one, but the cover of the first castlevania is based on a Frazetta painting.

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8325441

>>8325438
For comparison.

>> No.8325487

every single one of these games ripped off the Bible

>> No.8325509

>>8325487
the Bible ripped off greek mythology

>> No.8325784

>>8316134

i was going to say, nah its just a phrase in a key change, but then the rising run made me go, 'Ok'

>>8315773

I think its been established that the things that have the mark of Joe Hisaishi are numerous enough for their own thread.

>> No.8326098

>>8325287
wow, it's actually a better version too, but it's also not vidya

>> No.8326102

>>8325304
>Damn, why did I not see it?
it's well known fact that each metroid game loosely follows the Alien series stories
I'm still waiting for the Prometheus and AvP games

>> No.8326115

>>8326102
Imagine waiting for ripoffs of shitty movies

next level stuff

>> No.8326118

>>8326115
>Imagine waiting for ripoffs of shitty movies
yes

>> No.8326924

>>8325441
I'll excuse it because of all the artistry in the rest of the painting. unless they ripped it of something else too

>> No.8327589
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8327589

it might be me being a chad schizo so that i hear what i want to hear but i feel like sunsoft based fester's quest sewer theme on part of camel by camel (aka the ankha song)

https://voca.ro/148DhrbiFcyY

>> No.8328551

My time has come.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ouo_Dlh0U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVXcu6KSiq0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqj2s_dQEIg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9uyy8P25yE

>> No.8329724

>>8325438
>>8325441
it's an homage. everyone knows frazetta its not like they were taking from something obscure

>> No.8329771

>>8312469
that's actually pretty cool, never knew this

>> No.8329781

>>8316346
that picture pose looks familiar, can't put my finger on it

>> No.8329798

>>8316221
Matrix feels like it's actually ripping off of many things. A lot of the times, other properties is just heavy inspiration, or evolved ideas from original, but not matrix, it's copypasting while trying to pass off as OC donut

>> No.8329821
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8329821

>>8297443
is this an original song or plagiarized as well?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_iRB_kQswQ
this was always my favorite track from all these DB games.

>> No.8329848
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8329848

Does this count?
0:17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svoXsHnz46o
0:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJKuv_k7e60

>> No.8331323

>>8300354
King

>> No.8331337

>>8295052
DOS Megaman gives me PTSD

>> No.8331349

>>8314364
>>8314365
So thats why the player physics always felt so good in that game, its literally ripped from SMB3.

>> No.8331983

>>8312263
No. Samus was inspired by Sigourney Weaver as Ellen Ripley, but her appearance was modeled after Kim Basinger.

>> No.8332024

>>8316134
Jojo sounds more like Toto's Georgy Porgy than anything

>> No.8332026

>>8329848
Kino box art. I never understood why CvS1 is never brought up as it's still has the best looking stages in any fighter ever made.

>> No.8333524

>>8331983
Also, her name was inspired by Pele, no joke.

>> No.8333530

>>8329848
That's sampling, not the same as ripping melodies or basslines. Nice find eitherway.

>> No.8334069
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>>8317064
T. Bobby Prince

>> No.8334081

>>8333524
And someone named Seamus

>> No.8334095

>>8329821
Glory of the World by Stratovarius

>> No.8334103

>>8300076
Man, at least when Macross 7 created its in-universe band Fire Bomber that was basically discount Journey, they didn't actually rip off Journey songs, they just made original songs that sound like something Journey could've composed.

>> No.8334108

>>8317064
>If someone hadn't ripped off Nirvana, there'd be no Weezer
I mean he's not wrong.