/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8278736
Whatever.

Its a rich and compelling edition of final fantasy and I'm tired of pretending it's not

>>8278736
I don't care much for the story, but at least there's some novelty and innovation as opposed to the bland self-referential husk IX amounts to.

I wish we had gotten the pocket station in the US so i could have seen how that worked but all in all it was one of my favorite final fantasy games. The draw system was admittedly bad but the rest of the game was great.

Quistis > Selphie > Edea > Xu > Ultimecia > Ellone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr. Kadowaki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rinoa

>>8278845
Missing Julia

>>8278845
Quistis was the best FF girl of all time.

>>8278736
>civil
Even if you leave alone the 99% waifuism that comprises these threads on average, that's more "unmolested nonsense" than "civil"

>>8278845
switch Selphie and Quistis and it's perfect

>>8278845
I never really understood the hatred Rinoa got until I started disc 3. She's pretty awful, even Yuna is better

it's the most unique and interesting ff to date. ff9 is great too but it's very traditional and it's not as memorable and discussion inducing imho

>>8278979
>the most unique
I'd say that's X. As unique as VIII tried to go, it still got dragged down by a more self-conscious need to conform to certain elements of the previous games. X feels more its own thing with a more cohesive "vision"

>>8278736
Currently on disk 2, just set the missiles to miss Balamb

>>8278986
x is literally proto XIII. it already showed all the issues that would plague squenix in the coming decades

>>8279001
Such as? Never played the series after PS2

>>8278857
With her blue magic she never leaves my party when I have the option.

>generally pretty boring story with some truly awful parts/love-interests shoehorned in
>combat filtered many people; i still don't think it's fun or enjoyable, but i could see how people would like it
>settings are largely quite forgettable outside of a couple spots
nowhere near of grand of a story as VII, nor does it have any of the charm that made IX so loved. i've played VIII twice now and i just cannot get into it, different strokes for different folks.

>>8279020
Imagine the smell.

>>8279007
shitty linear corridors, focus on cinematics and cutscenes, no world map to explore, bloated budgets wasted on muh realistic graphics etc
literally the death of the medium, and X is at the center of it all

>>8279023
No shoehorning; the game was marketed as having a broadly romantic story. In fact I'd say it didn't really go as far as it could have in that direction.

The combat is actually pretty simple even if you don't really care about actually understanding the mechanics. Plus, the collecting aspects were very accessible and easy to leverage into results: "Big magic goes vroom"

Totally agree about the settings though, I don't think any setpiece actually stuck with me at all in the way the other games did.

>>8278736
There's nothing really much to say about this game, I mean it's a really huge step-up from FF7 but due to how much it's predecessor was praised heavily at that time, it just became underwhelmed. I would've put this game on probably my top 5 favorite RPGs but the junction system makes you scratch your head on countless hours trying to understand how it fucking works, but yeah it also becomes an advantage of the game itself because it becomes a replayability. I think they just released it on a wrong time, and the junction system just adds it up.

>>8279032
The corridor dungeons and cinematics were introduced fully realized since VII. I do agree about the lack of world map though, but the "death of the medium" thing is a bit hyperbolic, this is just jRPGs ffs, they barely count as anything more interactive fiction with pretend action in it.

>>8279061
In the end it's just the illusion of depth, kind of like with Vagrant Story. If you're a bit anal it's probably annoying not fully getting it, but otherwise you can play the game to basically full performance with only a marginal practical understanding of how it works.

I'll say this, the first disc is great, and it's all down hill from there.

>>8279040
The love story is quite literally shoehorned in and I'm not sure how anyone could say otherwise. All of a sudden a flip fucking switches and he goes from nothing at all towards her to "I need u in my life bby." It comes completely out of nowhere and was really jarring because I didn't want to romance her and did everything beforehand to try and get someone else.

I think we can agree to disagree on the combat though. I don't think it's super complicated, but obviously it's not pretty simple if people's biggest complaint about the game is not understanding what the fuck to do in combat properly. Perhaps they're being tards, but I don't think it was explained too well. Reminds me a bit of Xenogears and deathblows

>>8279241
I agree the love story is hamfisted; but that's not the same as "shoehorned" at all. The fact that things escalate randomly and the whole thing generally seems written by somebody with relationship experience limited to shojo manga doesn't mean you get to ignore that's going on at any given moment.

FFVII got a lot of interest from the romantic subplots and they clearly doubled down on that, trying to appeal to a larger audience with the full high-school-age cast as well; you may remember that the promotion and coverage was very much focused on the central relationship. Even the widely circulated Dollet Mission demo had Rinoa replacing Selphie.

>>8278845
retard

>>8279331
I bet she loves hot dogs like her son

>>8279241
>quite literally shoehorned
Halt. Where are your papers?

>>8279078
To be honest i'm still new to the world of RPGs, but albeit I played the previous FF titles like the FF6 using a GBA emulator on mobile but I never really got to finish any RPGs due to my anhedonic brain that makes me want to delete the game and play again and this cycle just repeats over and over again. I never had a console back then except for the GBA back when I was six (only played the arcade ones because I was too young to understand such things) and the PSP back in 3rd grade. Nonetheless I made a lot of fun playing videogames on both of those handheld consoles as a kid. I never got to play RPGs on those both consoles though until later in life when I had my first phone that I instantly downloaded a GBA emulator and now my recent $100 phone is powerful enough to run PS1,GBA, PSP (with constant frame drops), DS, and some more.

Back to the main topic, I've played the FF8 but only for a few hours since i'm still currently focused on beating FF7 (currently on disc 2 with 40+ hours of solid playtime) because like I said above you need to really be in depth on FF8 because of it's gameplay. Nevertheless I loved FF8 more than FF7 if it wasn't because of it's brain-damaging junction system.

>>8279259
It would be hamfisted if there was more leadup to when he professes his undying love for her out of nowhere. I'm happy to be proven wrong, but Rinoa is forced in as his truefound love interest randomly during one mission and then that's what the norm is going forward. To me, that fits the definition of shoehorn to a T. It isn't that things escalate, it's that they explode almost randomly and is forced onto the user aggressively.

I don't want to split hairs over semantics here, just giving my view on things. I'd say maybe I need to replay it a third time to get a better view, but I'm never touching this shit again lel.

>>8279347

>>8278736
this one seems to come often. ff8 definitely stood out and will be remembered in history.

I doubt I'm alone in thinking this, but I really don't like Zell and Irvine.

>>8279621
irvine sucks and i blame him for the worst scene in the game. he's also just generally a bitch
zell can be boring but i like the little subplot where he gets a girlfriend

>>8278938
what is awful about rinoa? specifically?
also
>EVEN Yuna is better
what the fuck is wrong with you apes, Yuna is a wonerful person

>>8278845
Where's Fujin?

>>8279368
Depends on how play. The illusion of choice you're given when you interact with Rinoa actually made you feel it was hamfisted but for me the experience was different, even more so after the Fisherman's concert and the reunion after they split up to bomb the fuck out of the military complex. Square's biggest mistake was allowing you the player to not have any interest for Rinoa and not changing the script as a consequence of that. If you do play the game according to the "right" choices, the love-story doesn't feel so badly setup.

>>8278739
fpbp

>>8278857
It's the whip isn't it?

There's definitely a resemblance.

>>8278845
Close, my guy
Quistis>selphie>ellone>seifer in a dress, and the rest aren't even worth ranking

>>8278736
He's fucking dead

>>8278736
>Can we have a civil discussion about Final Fantasy 8?
Probably not but I love the game. Lots of cool stuff and I liked playing as a young mercenary "commanding" his soldiers. I also like Squalls early personality where he doesn't take anything seriously except being a tough guy, and how he starts acting like a retard over some dumb bitch. It's actually very realistic in that regard.

It is the game that got me back into jarpigs after a 1996-2000 hiatus.

>>8281378
Also, people bitch about the story but I find the vagueness to be awesome. You can interpret it in a lot of ways.
For example-
>The game is actually just Squalls dream, turned nightmare, after getting knocked out by Seifer's sword blow while training. He already knows Rinoa and other people from past memories and adventures and they play a part in his dream. In the end he has to settle the score with Seifer, then beat a corrupted love interest and a GF he had junctioned in his memory at the time.
>You win, and he wakes up, Seifer was expelled for being a faggot and is doing his own thing, and hid other close friends are there to welcome him back to reality.
That's just one interpretation of several you can make of FF8's story. It's awesome. The kinda fool you are in your own psychology can dictate what you see in Squall's experience.

VIII was the best final fantasy. Nu FF (post IX) isn't FF

>>8279032
Almost the whole industry went this way thanks to FFX and Halo, and remained that way until they began incorporating MMO mechanics (of all things, for fuck's sake).

Do you really need Lionheart for the final battle?

>>8281737
looking better that way tbdesu

>>8281737
much better game

>>8281949
Nope. Just keep attacking until you KILL THE ENEMY. KILL THE GOD DAMNED ENEMY DEAD!

>>8281949
Why would you?

>>8283123
Why wouldn't I need the strongest weapon for the final battle?

>>8283790
You can kill the final boss in about 3 moves with Lionheart so it kind of ruins the challenge

>>8279217
so it's a final fantasy game?

>>8278736
I enjoyed drawing a bunch of magic and running away from every encounter.

>>8278736
No

>>8279621
I only liked Irvine as a kid because he used a gun (same reason I liked Laguna). Hated Zell as a kid and still think he’s an annoying faggot now.

>>8279217
Pretty much this.
FVIII was the first turn-based RPG I actually tried to play and I didn't stop playing after a 15 minutes, and it was mainly because of the concept.
I remember I started loving the game and how you were training to be this elite soldier. The landing on Dollet was fucking great, just like trying to kill Edea. Then it all went downhill.
I didn't even care about the draw or junction system, because I didn't know how to break it so it wasn't that bad, but I lost interest in the game as a whole. I finished anyway, but I hated how they added so much crap to the story, and the original concept was left behind. The first disc was definitely the peak of the game. Disc 2 also has it moments, but disc 3 and 4 are a fucking mess.

>>8279217
This is definitely true but it still has some cool setpieces and I thought the final dungeon was awesome.

like all final fantasy games i've played, it started out cool and by the end i didnt know what the FUCK was happening. 9/10 would play a remake

The whole game feels like you're cheating. I have no idea how you're actually supposed to play it. If you avoid the random rule, the card game has like a 99% win chance. If you keep characters at low health and just switch until they get their limit, you murder everything. These are just two things that require no complex tricks or preparation, just playing the game. It's ridiculous.

The best elements FF8 brought to the table were unfortunately not carried over, that being Quetzacoatl/Brothers replacing Ramuh/Titan.

I hate to admit it, but I kinda like Eyes on Me.

>>8286771
Zell honestly reminds me of Naruto.

I like it.

The best way to play the game is by ignoring the card game and the drawing mechanic. Just refine items you win in battle, don't try keeping levels low.

>>8289016
No, the best way to play FF8 is to use the Ragnarok Rebalancing Mod. It uncaps the amount of spells you can Draw, makes high level spells difficult to acquire via cards, and makes it so that 1 spell has the same stat benefits as 100, so you can actually use magic without growing weaker. Also removes level scaling and gives each party member a role specific stat growth and locks ultimate weapon materials behind end game side quests.

>>8278736
The problem with the game is that the gameplay is just fundamentally broken. You have 3 real ways to play the game, and they all suck and result in derivitive mindless gameplay.
You can fully break the game, by abusing the card system and going low level, this requires hours of tedious card playing, carding of enemies, refining items so you can refine magic into better magic, and the end result is you get to a point where you intentionally ignore the entire gameplay aspect of the game outside of forced boss fights which you 1 shot anyway.
Option two, which I guess would technically be the "right" way to play is spending hours in battles drawing magic while you fight the random battles the games gives you as you progress. This is basically just a more boring way of option one, with the addition that you'll be scaling the enemies with you making the battles take longer and longer unless you spend more and more time drawing.
And finally you have objectively the worst way to play which is grinding, which will leave you underpowered in comparison to the enemies, but they game gives you a get out of jail free card for this with GFs, which can easily carry you through the entire game as long as you're content spending hours upon hours watching their unskippable animations.
So any way you play the game, it sucks. It's simultaneously way too easy no matter how you play it, while also being extremely tedious no matter how you play it, and your supposed motivation to keep doing it is one of the worst written and told plots in media history filled with unlikable single note characters, horrible and random idiotic plot twists just to have them, and completely nonsensical events and plot threads that just seem inserted for absolutely 0 reason, lead no where and are never referenced again.

She made eye contact with you, and she's walking over to you...

>>8290676
begone, thot

>>8290676
>have heart attack

>>8290676
>ohshitohshit what if she asks me to dance and I'll make a fool of myself maybe if I told her that I can't dance would she buy that? but what if she forces me to dance anyway? I'll just pretend I'm really bad and then try to leave. But then I WOULD make a fool out of myself! ohshitohshitohshit here she comes play it cool
Squall: ...

>>8278736
I wasted my savings on this shit show 20 years ago and I'm still bitter about it till this day.

>>8278736
Quistis should have been the main love interest, while Rinoa was the "other girl", who becomes so insanely jealous that she descends into madness and becomes Ultimecia.

>>8290730
yup but can't have an asian game where the aryan goddess is the main love interest, no, gotta romance the boring asian chick

>>8290676
wonder if she still had seifer's cum in her cooch

>>8290808
Rinoa doesn't look particularly asian to me

>>8289663
All too true. It does have pretty graphics and music though. I played through the whole damn game, hypnotized like I was playing a slot machine.

>>8289663
>You can fully break the game, by abusing the card system and going low level, this requires hours of tedious card playing, carding of enemies, refining items so you can refine magic into better magic, and the end result is you get to a point where you intentionally ignore the entire gameplay aspect of the game outside of forced boss fights which you 1 shot anyway.

Except you don't have to break the game, you can play a moderate amount of cards to get a few key mods, get enc-none in disk 1 and then play though the story acquiring what you need mostly from boss fights and exploration, which is really fun and makes the pacing so much better. Nothing says you have to sit in place and stockpile spells until you're OP

I've said it before and I'll say it again, a low-level, no-enc card-based run of FFVIII is one of the most enjoyable experiences the franchise has to offer, you just have to check your autism occasionally and remind yourself you can keep playing through the story even if you haven't stockplied 99 ultimas and maxed out every stat. If you unnecessarily spend hours breaking the game just to complain about how boring it is afterwards, that's on you.

>>8278736
Cool first hour or so, shit for the rest of the game.

>>8291546
>get enc-none in disk 1 and then play though the story acquiring what you need mostly from boss fights and exploration, which is really fun and makes the pacing so much better
>avoiding battles and sitting through the shittest story in all of retro FF is fun
FF8 fags are mentally ill

guys im in disc 3 with the same starting weapon.
can you upgrade the weapons without using the damn card game? I really don't want to put time on the card game

it was an abysmal failure of a game. everyone who came from ff7 played it and then said wtf square, what were you even thinking.

beginning of the decline for them i guess. even 9 couldn't make up for it and many people moved on

>>8291661
>FF8 fags are mentally ill
Pretty much.
It's the same shit every time.
>best way to play the game
>is to play as little as possible

Not going to defend any FF story though. So much convoluted, derivative animu nonsense. FF1 might be an exception.

>>8278736
how of all FFs is FF8 the one that is constantly talked about daily on 4chan. Growing up all I heard is FF7 is the best game ever, but by far FF8 is the most controversial.

>>8289663
>refine common drops like m-stone piece, magic, and wizard stones into healing magic (cure/curaga -> life -> full-life) for HP-J and elemental magic (blizzara/blizzaga) for Str-J
>HP now high enough that the regular HP for your level range makes you weak and triggers limit breaks (spam circle to refresh the box until you get limit break)
>1 offensive character to limit break spam
>2nd character as backup for offense and for drawing magic
>3rd character mostly for healing, drawing, magic
>spend zero time using card or card mod
>occasionally draw rare magic into Disc 2
>get almost all the rarest magic (full life, ultima, and triple for HP, Str, and Mag) and items in Disc 3 after getting Ragnarok and using Siren's hidden draw point ability with Diablos' Enc-none on the Islands Closest to Heaven and Hell
The only truly difficult boss in FF8 is Omega Weapon. Ultima is kind of tricky but you can take him down in a minute. Tonberry King is lots of grinding and patience. All the main bosses in the game are easy. Marlboro Tentacle is a regular monster and probably the 2nd hardest to fight in the game after Omega. Island Closest to Heaven/Hell monsters (Ruby Dragon, Iron Giant, T-Rexaur, etc) 3rd.

Final Fantasy 8 is dogshit, respectfully.

>>8290873
She definitely has some in her throat.

I think FF8 would have been much more fondly remembered if it had a better tutorial to explain the mechanics and no other changes.

I really like Selphie, she’s cute and sexy.

>>8289663
>which will leave you underpowered in comparison to the enemies
Lol confirmed for never having actually leveled up in the game. A level 100 bite bug is still a bite bug, a complete trash mob. A malboro is dangerous at any level because it depends entirely on whether you have status def x 4 or not. Ruby Dragons are weak to sleep and have a built in AI nerf that keeps it from using Breath if you have a dead party member, and so on. The game comes with a fucking vit nulling spell and a literal leveling down command, how much of a braindead pussy retard do you have to be to fear leveling up? You just want to hate the game for any reason.

>>8293651
I'd say 7 and 8 get an equal amount of discussion.

>>8294269
Anon, a high-level Ruby Dragon will obliterate your party with a Breath if you go into the Deep Research Center unprepared. Leveling up will fuck things up if your stats are lagging (no use of ***-UP when gaining levels), there is no denying this. I actually find that very interesting in Final Fantasy VIII because it breaks the concept of a perfect game but actually provides a decent challenge.

I do agree that the anon you're replying to has a shit opinion though. Every single Final Fantasy game can be destroyed very easily after your first playthrough and even more so if you're abusing in-game things not intended by devs (like the Junon alarm trick in Final Fantasy VII, for example).

Decided to test out Duckstation for the first time using FF8.
So far I'm amazed. It looks good on a 4K screen. HOW it does so blows my mind. The FMVs should be unbearable.
Anyway, people above are right, FF games are stupid-easy to break, but only if you choose too. Conversely they can be extremely challenging if you linit your options during play, like no items/gfs/junctioning in FF8.
I personally like getting OP'd, but only at the end of the game. Until then I play normally enough.
Diablos' fight is a fucking bastard when done right after getting the lamp. GOTTA GO FAST

>>8278736
That stupid Card game and scaling enemies ruined it for me.

>>8295668
Is Garnet wearing a choker? What a little minx.

>>8295668
rinoa is too busty

>>8297234
How big do you think her honkers are anyway?

>>8295491
>unprepared
That's pretty vague, anon. You don't need minmaxed stat growth to survive Breath, because the game has character abilities like Vit+40%.

>>8298836
That's what I'm talking about. You got in with base VIT not having any idea how powerful Breath is, you will get your party destroyed. Vit 40% is not something you're likely to pick for all party members unless you know what you're doing and in very specific situations - noobs just rolling in Deep Sea Research Center without any knowledge can (and will likely) get fucked in their first attempts.

>>8298865
That's an awfully specific scenario and not really an argument against VIII's level scaling.

>>8298912
Stats are exponential. What that means that is that as enemies level up 100 STR normal attack isn't gonna cause twice the damage than if it were 50 STR - it will likely be a three or four times more at least. Breath is a very pratical example because of how damage wrecking it can be to your party and you can easily measure it by messing with your VIT status. But the same applies to pretty much everything else in regards to level scaling. Final Fantasy VIII has a very unusual stat system formula compared to previous games.

Oh, I’d like to go down on Quistis’s blonde muff.

>>8300427
based

I like the atmosphere of the Lunatic Pandora

Selphie is a great character, I like her design, quirkiness and yeah honestly speaking she's pretty useless in battle if you don't cheese everything with The End

>>8301776
>I like her design, quirkiness
She's Yuffie without a desire for stealing

>>8280309
https://youtu.be/JayN6cbvpAM?t=27
Gackt claims Squall was based off of him but knowing him, it was probably a lie

>>8301823
She’s not as much of a slut as Yuffie though

>>8302058
Yeah, it was probably a lie Nomura made up to not look as obsessed with Gackt as he is.

>>8302058
He’s no more Gackt than Seifer or Rufus are David Bowie.

>>8303342
funny since yuffie doesn't thirst after anybody like selphie does with irvine

>>8303484
Yuffie's outfit is definitely much more skanky than Selphie's.

>>8303513
>tifa and yuffie are slooooots because they show skin and it's offensive in my islamic religion!
>aerizzz is pure because she wears proper attire despite having a past of several boyfriends and being flirty with everybody with a penis
fuck the argument doesn't have sense, selphie shows more skin than yuffie, you can even see her panties in battle

>>8303531
Tifa ain’t no slut. Rinoa on the other hand…

I'll say this, Ultimecia has much better taste in home decor/architecture than Sephiroth.

>>8278845
Quistis was sterile and uninteresting. My teenage libido didn't respond then and my fat, sweaty, smelly, mid thirties desperation doesn't respond either

>>8304812
I can’t say I disagree, FFVIII’s girls are a bit too realistic for my tastes. Except for the sorceresses though, they’re cool

It could have used a script doctor.
I feel like the part where they discover that they are all from the orphanage should have been done at the orphanage, not the basketball court.
The sorceress war backstory is a lot more interesting than Squalls story. Most of the interesting things about 8s world only ever get mentioned and never expanded on.
Adel would have been a better main villain.
>>8302058
>>8303356
Says on the FF wiki that he was based on River Phoenix with a source that points to an interview about The Bouncer(lol that fucking game sucks ass)
https://web.archive.org/web/20110204033315/http://uk.ps2.ign.com/articles/085/085275p1.html

>>8278736
It had a great start, a good middle, and it just kind of fell apart at the end. It starts to crumble in disk 3 and completely falls apart by disc 4. The whole Ultimecia thing made no sense.
The magic drain and junction system was kind of a mess. It made the game way too easy. When you get the chance you drain a creature and the right junction on your weapon destroys stuff.
The graphics were impressive for the time and it had good moments.
The game came close and then faceplanted.

>>8278845
Only thing Quistis did good was offer the most humorous scene in FFVIII with her rejection. She is quite literally the most useless character in the game from a gameplay perspective to her role in the story, failing at literally everything she does, and I love seeing her role get less important until she just doesn't matter whatsoever to the story. You know anyone who likes her is a femdom faggot with a small dick that probably wants to be whipped and stepped on

>>8305665
She’s much, MUCH sexier than Rinoa, plot relevance aside.

>>8303531
I don’t see how Aeris being Zack’s ex makes her a turbo slut.

>>8289663
Everything you just described sounds fun.

>>8294160
The mechanics really aren't even complicated.

Each character has their own spell stock, and you don't equip armor or weapons. (weapons can be upgraded at specific intervals which permanently raises the respective character's strength stat.) Spells are equipped to stats, the more spells are equipped the stronger the stats are, and each stat has unique spells it matches to which increase the stat more than others. (e.g. Cure increases HP more than Fire, Protect increases Defense more than Blizzard.) By default characters can't equip spells to stats. To equip spells to stats, you need to equip GFs to the character, GFs can learn passive abilities that do many things, including allowing stats to have spells equipped to them. Each character can have multiple GFs equipped. The enemies in the game level scale with you, levelling up marginally increases stats, getting stronger means getting more spells, GFs, and spell-equip abilities. You can get spells by drawing them from enemies, finding them in the world-map, or refining them from items or cards you get by playing the cardgame with NPCs.

I just summarized the entire game system from memory, and what confuses most people, and I haven't played this game in years. (coming up on 7 to be exact.) It just confused people since they expected spells and equipment to be like most RPGs. It's different, but quite similar and reminiscent if you've played them. (you just equip the GFs and spells to stats instead.)

>>8295491
>Every single Final Fantasy game can be destroyed very easily after your first playthrough and even more so if you're abusing in-game things not intended by devs
Play FFV GBA and get back to me on that one.

>>8278845
Only thing Quistis has going for her is her looks, besides that she's a useless doormat who ditches her post on a whim and is dropped like a brick after the first disc.

>>8278736
>civil discussion about Final Fantasy

>>8303531
>1 boyfriend that she pines for endlessly
Aeris haters have to be the most permavirginal of all console warriors. Like, she's only in the game for 1 disc and you niggers have been seething since 1997

>>8308174
I didn’t even know people hated her. What’s there to hate anyway? She’s strong-willed and confident.

Rinoa has a hairy pussy

>>8310785
Proof?
I'm not denying it I just want to see it.

quistis. yes.
rinoa. no
edea.... maybe.

>>8278736
>Final Fantasy 8
Whatever.

>>8310850
You'd have to ask Seifer's permission in order to see it.

>>8279241
squall falls in love at the end of disc 3 tho
he likes rinoa before but doesnt fall for her until the ragnarok space sequence

>>8302058
is Gackt like a meme celebrity? everything seems ridiculous about the guy

i want to live in ff8 world...

>>8310785
based

>>8311009
good job finding out that the mc is no caring about anything because Rinoa was lost in space...forever.

>>8312359
It seems nice at first, but I would find living at one of the Gardens to be absolute misery.

>>8312593
It's a mercenary organization. What did you expect anon? They are training children to be sent to war against a future sorceress that will obliterate the world. Of course it's going to make you miserable.

i already shared this like a year ago, but I leave it again. Just ramblings on how i'd make ff8 if it was me.

https://alchemistnocturne.blogspot.com/2020/04/ffviii-demake.html

>>8278915
impeccable taste

>>8278736
My biggest wish in this world is a graphic wise minimalistic FF8 remake with Xillia 2 combat and a refined story (more antagonists, ditch Seifer with someone cooler, more happening around the world, having more talented characters that rival Squall, etc).
I hate fucking daydreaming about this. We will never have something like that because Square is busy sucking 7 cocks and doing mobile shit.

>>8312359
I'm a hardcore fan with FF8, so many times I would even try to escape reality with lucid dreaming, I would be in Balamb Garden where I would often train with Zell in the training center and help Selphie with the Garden Festival, but one day as I was talking to Selphie, we went to my dormitory for a private talk. She immediately said, "You know you could live with us forever.." I gave her a confused look and she continued, "We understand that you live on earth and you REALLY wish to live here". I then said "How..How did you know?" She then giggled and said "Because we've been watching you, silly!"

This was a dream come true and I almost cried right there. She then said, "I talked with Headmaster Cid and he agreed that you would be PERFECT for SeeD, you just have to do...one thing". She then held my hand and looked deep into my eyes and said "...You have to kill yourself for the transfer to work correctly." I then gave her some questions, "How long do I have before the deal expires?" She then said "Cid said 3 months.." I added by saying "What's the most painless way?..." She giggled again, "Suicide will require pain buuut...if you want it quick...Get a gun and a nice shot to the head works.

I then agreed and she gave me a kiss on the forehead, "I know this will be tough but once it's over and done, you'll get to live here!" I then woke up and this was last week and i purchased a gun. I might actually kill myself because that dream just felt too real to be fake and my life isn't doing so grand.

>>8314291
"Hey guys, does anybody else remember that weird fat guy Selphie is deeply obsessed with? If you talk to him he doesn't even play Triple Triad with you. All he says is 'i regret everythin. I want to go back'. Really weird shit".
btw, what is the original? This or the FFX copypasta?

>>8290676
>one last loop

its not the greatest RPG of all time,
its quite possibly, the greatest videogame of all time.

war, famine, military industrial complex, corruption within academia, political theater, time compression, quantum mechanics, soulmates keep rerolling trying to find eachother no matter what....


eyes on me being an out of the park home-run accidentally proves my point - the title is so pretentious that even the fanbase doesn't know how to react.

FFVIII?
>jokermeme.png
>you wouldn't get it

Replaying it now for the first time in 22 years and I was way too harsh on it the first time around. Of course it came on the heels of 7 which was seen as an instant classic upon it's release in 1997.

Laguna is a fucking dweeb

>>8314349
never heard about that but that its good pasta then

Rinoa is Seifer’s cumdumpster.

>>8315476
They are not romantically involved in the japanese script. In fact, Rinoa's whole personality is the worst offender of the translation/localization process despite the rest being reasonably good.

>>8316765
What is she like in the Japanese version?

>>8316941
From what I recall, she was described as being less abrasive in her words and manners and while still emotional, she come off less as a whiny self-entitled teenager and more a girl concerned with her people and her town. I believe there were some translations floating around The Lifestream and GameFAQs forums and if people who can translate are still active, you can ask around. Translation was generally fine in Final Fantasy VIII but Rinoa was apparently totally bonkers.

MiniMog is super cutie

I check out the Mods on Nexus and there are some cool overhaul projects to dive into.
You guys think there will be a crazy bastard who turns the game into an action RPG? I would fucking love that

>>8278736
I went on vacation to my aunt’s lake house one summer and instead of enjoying the outdoors I got Squall to level 99 before the Dollet mission

I always thought the boss battle theme sounded Doom-ish. Same synthesizer maybe?

>>8278736
playing through this right now. about to hit disc 4 after i get all the sidequests done. the story flew over my head as a 16 year old but i can really appreciate it now that im much older. i cried a bit when squal and rinoa were up in space but like a happy cry. the junction system is still garbage though especially since its really easy to miss guardian forces. thank god the RNG has been broken down and its really easy to get multiple items that are super rare. sucks ass they dont have chocobo world but i dont mind leaving my switch on over night for angelo search. still the black sheep of the final fantasy golden age but its still a really good game.
>>8278845
fucking KEK but you know who i found to be the hottest chick? selphies friend at trabia garden. with the remaster models she has that early 2000s mall chick thing goin, would wife.

>>8279660
yuna looks like she has a stinky pussy and also has autism. although 10-2 fixes this.

>>8279621
yes they both suck. would replace both with seifer in a heartbeat.

>>8314086
ok so i just read through your autism and i gotta say you should be in game design my dude. a demake like this would be amazing. have you ever played the ff7 demake? kind of reminds me of that but way more detailed. i like it.

>>8317087
>instead of enjoying the outdoors I got Squall to level 99 before the Dollet mission
nuts

They call Rinoa a princess, but she’s not gracious enough to be one.

For me it's Selphie

>>8317073
i would be down for that.
Used to love VIII alot but i really can't play turn-based games anymore

>>8317238
Autism is a positive trait for girls.

It wasn't until playing the earlier titles that I realized every character is meant to be a job class in their own right.
Quistis - Blue Mage
Zell - Monk
Irvine - Gunner
Selphie - White Mage
Rinoa - Beastmaster
Seifer - Fighter
Squall - Dead all the time to keep the game difficulty at a minimum

It's a really unique concept.

One thing I feel VIII lacks is humor. Well, except for the Brothers animation

>>8319720
Yeah FF9 has some decent humor. Eiko's lines on Terra at Bran Bal are noted.

>>8310785
And it smells like rotten fish

>>8312536
>Lost in space
>Forever
She wasn't, but if she was she would have re-entered the atmosphere with a matter of hours

>>8316503
Completely different nose, face shape, hair and eye color, hairline than Rinoa, and Square says she's not Rinoa, so why do schizo retards still insist Ultimecia=Rinoa?

It feels like these are the same autists that were calling Aeris "Aerith" back in 1997

>>8319431
>Squall - Dead all the time to keep the game difficulty at a minimum

There’s a lot to dislike about Rinoa, but at least she’s not Lightning