/vr/ - Retro Games

yes

>>8270864
Nah

>>8270890
How does that stick feel? I always thought it looked a bit stiff and uncomfortable to use, especially since it’s so small

>>8270898
I have tiny manlet hands so it feels cool with a pointer-thumb pinch grip

>>8270898
bit small to move but really smooth action and extremely solid build. The keys too feel really nice.

It's too mushy.

>>8270864
never tried one of those sega roller dpads, worth switching over?

>>8270920
Absolutely. Playing a fighting game on it is buttery smooth, it feels almost as good as an arcade stick. Even platformers feel amazing on it. Compare playing something like Pandamonium! On PlayStation against using the Saturn D-Pad. It’s like night and day and it’s so comfy

>>8270864
Close, but no. This is the true king.

>>8270937
The only single point of interest for that controller is that it was the first controller to use a nipple as an input device.

>>8270937
I kneel

>>8270864
Apparently they still make these? I can only ever find the dumb usb ones. Where can i find a plug in one?

>>8270864
Of course not. There were superior 3rd party versions of that exact controller. The dpad can't possibly be perfect because it doesn't use a microstick.

>>8270937
surprisingly comfortable

Saturnfags only think they have the best dpad because the original psx controllers had absolute shit dpads. It's just nostalgic wishful thinking. The dpad on a Saturn controller is no better than on a Genesis controller.

>>8270864
The D-pad is the best I've ever used, but the shoulder and face buttons kind of suck. I also would much rather have 4 triggers and 4 face buttons than 2 + 6.

>>8272924
the 6-button genesis controller is also one of the best controllers ever and had a better d-pad than the 3-button one.

>>8272924
>saturnfags only think they have the best dpad because the competition had terrible dpads
0 iq post

>>8272956
You seem to be confused by difference between HAVE and HAD. It was a Genesis dpad, which was a really good dpad though.

>>8270864
wrong pic, bro.

SEGA dpad supremacy. Perfect for platformers, shooters and fighting games. and bomberman, of course.

>>8270937
Did the rolly-ball style “stick” only never catch on because SEGA lost that gen? It’s so fucking comfy, I’m not sure why no one else has aped it other than out of fear of doing things differently.

>>8273154
Yeah, I was immensely disappointed going from the Saturn 3D pad to the Dreamcast controller. How could they fuck it up so hard?

>>8270864
only flaw is no select button

>>8270864

How do you personally map SNES controls to this? Do you do Z=X, C=A, X=Select? Or do you need accurate button names, so you end up with something like A=A, B=B, C=Select, Z=A secondary?

>>8273014
This but with six buttons. It would be perfect. Why 4 buttons became the standard instead of six buttons?

>>8272924
Not really, it’s a good dpad, the N64 dpad was also really good but it was barely used in most games

>>8273313
Because it’s a neogeo?
The microswitch here is cool in concept but it’s kinda shitty to actually use

>>8270864
this but see-through blue one (official USB one)

>Due to various factors such as manufacturing shortages such as IC chips, we've had to delay the release of the #SEGA #Dreamcast and Saturn Analog controllers. Rest assured, we are continuing to develop these in hopes of meeting everyone's expectations.
holy shit they finally said something

>>8273284
I wish I knew. Dreamcast controller looks great but feels like shit. The upcoming 6-button DC pad coming out from Retro-Bit seems like it will fix a lot of its issues, but it's still kind of like putting lipstick on a pig.

>>8272924
>The dpad on a Saturn controller is no better than on a Genesis controller
perfection

>>8273310
I just use the four outer-most buttons personally, but you could set them up inverted-T style too, going Y=A, B=B, A=C, X=Y

>>8273014
I own the original one, coming from the original PS1 and Saturn controller it sucks. Pic related on the other hand gave me years of fond childhood memories.

>tfw if I didn't blow off all of my buds from HS I'd buy this in a heartbeat and play KOF98 with them

It also reminds me that I am a POS.

>>8272924
>The dpad on a Saturn controller is no better than on a Genesis controller.
there's 4 different genesis d-pads, one of them is identical to the saturn's

>>8273313
I have pic related and it holds up well.
all of the buttons but LT/RT are microswitches, so it's very noisy but satisfying to use.

>>8270864
Yes.

>>8270937
I also kneel.

>>8273993
My point exactly. They all had solid dpads, but they were far from perfect when it comes to precision inputs
T. 500+ hours of Mortal Kombat as a child

>>8273313
>This but with six buttons.
It exists. Good luck finding one, though.

I can't imagine why you need six buttons. I have a few six button controllers, you only use three of them.

>>8273014
wrong pic, bro
>>8273313
Why not have the best of both worlds?
>>8273781
Thanks for the hot take, zoomie-who's-never-used-one

>>8274371
I love it when ignorant people parade around their wrong opinions without knowing how dumb they look

>>8274450
wow, that looks pretty cool anon.
it even has a batman logo on the stick.

>>8274464
I'm sorry, I just don't play games that use all 6. Sometimes you rarely use even 3, just A and B. The shoulder buttons are used more often than the XYZ buttons in my experience, or sometimes XYZ is just a remapping of either ABC or LRC. I've owned a Saturn which is my main experience with the 6 button scheme for years.

>>8274485
Ask me how I know you're not old enough to drink

>>8274450
>who's-never-used-one
uh-huh
don't hit those diags on accident mate

>>8275010
>don't hit those diags on accident mate
Literally one of the best features of a microstick zoom zoom

>>8274884
>intoxicating yourself
I'm old enough to do it, but I don't drink.
only occasionally when it's expected from me to act like a normie and that is few and far between.

>>8274450
I'm 35 and never played with a saturn pad.

>>8273154
It's expensive and VERY prone to failure.

>>8276550
It’s very comfortable. I recommend it

>>8270864
zoomie here, I have a third party one, someone said that mine's dpad is a little worse but still feels like a saturn dpad, looked kinda clumsy at first but it feels way better than the dualshock 2 and 3 controllers

>>8270864
Best d-pad. Hate the 6 face buttons though. A B C were used as the three main buttons so moving your thumb from A to C took too long.

>>8276619
I hear you, the only problem I have had with saturn stuff is that it never got cheap like sony/nintendo stuff did.

>>8275841
Because the only way anyone would know about the bat device is from necking bottles of 151 amirite!

>>8276550
They're a good shape, size, layout, etc. Solid with almost enough buttons. Don't let the fact that hipsters constantly suck heir cock put you off. They're actually decent controllers.

>>8276742
It did, you just missed it. I have a buttload and never paid more than ¥500. I have boxes of sealed games I dug out of dumpsters behind shops when they made space for PS3 shit.

>>8270937
5000% better than the dreamcast controller. like, how did they fuck it up when they got so much right the first time?

Anyone tried the 8bitdo one? How is it? I'm thinking about buying the Genesis one along with the SNES. They both have great reviews and combined are only $55 so

>>8278389
>8bitdo
don't

>>8273014
The noises that stick makes are music to my ears.

>>8278431
*do

>>8272924
>The dpad on a Saturn controller is no better than on a Genesis controller
How many could you have used if you make that statement? You can grab any two Genesis controllers and the dpads will probably feel different.

>>8274304
>nostalgiafag
Out.

>>8272968
The Saturn dpad is the same as the 6-button controller's dpad, but not the original Genesis controller. When's the last time you guys actually used a 3-button? The dpad is much stiffer.

>>8273313
>Why 4 buttons became the standard instead of six buttons?
It's certainly one of the great tragedies in gaming.

>>8278389
I don't understand the 8bitdo pad hate on /vr./ This is my absolute favorite controller for 2D gaming. I use it to play anything 8-bit and 16-bit that I don't have hardware for, as well as PlayStation 2D and fightan games. It could be better if it were as wide as the original Genesis 3-button pad but besides that it's a 9/10.
I wouldn't bother buying the SNES one unless you want it for nostalgia since you can easily map its buttons onto this, and Sega-style dpad > all.

>>8279035
>I don't understand the 8bitdo pad hate on /vr./
Let's see:
>terrible wireless latency
>cancerous internal battery on their cheaper offerings, will eventually die and third party batteries are notoriously garbage and expensive
>poor designs
>crappy D-pads
>awful QC, plenty of reports of sticking buttons
And last, but by no means least:
>more expensive than just buying the real controllers they're clones of

>>8270864
>>8270937
This is a particularly autistic pet peeve but I really dislike the font they went with for the ABC/XYZ buttons. It's so ugly and out of place in comparison to >>8279018

>>8278994
>>8279035
>t. 8bitdo

>>8279054
Not only are all of these claims incorrect, but playing wired eliminates half of your would-be problems.

>commenting on cost
It's $27 on Amazon right now. Fucks sake man get a job.
There is no Sega Controller that has a Select button (the minus), or the other two buttons that can be mapped to do whatever you want. You're not getting a Saturn controller from whoever your preferred manufacturer is for under $23, and again, it doesn't have as many buttons.

I get the feeling that you're just parroting what you've read on forums and don't actually own one of these.
Over 1,500 ratings with 4.7 out of 5 stars on Amazon. But sure, go ahead and try to discredit everyone's experiences lol.

>>8270864
prolly

>>8279035
theyre cheap
thats the best and the worst thing i can say about em
the plastic nub that attaches the dpad to the controller is weak and will break long before any real genny controller would
course its $20 so no shit
superglue that shit back on or go hit the ATM

tl;dr theyd be a lot better if chinese """people""" werent so fucking chinese

>>8270864
It certainly is among the best gamepads, but you'll need to shell out for a Sanwa if you want to play with the pros

>>8279169
WHAT? loads of top players use saturn pads, queermo

>>8279054
>>terrible wireless latency
the 2.4 ghz versions are actually extremely low latency and wired is even lower. Literally 1ms input lag, which is pretty much the lowest on the market. You could not be more wrong on this point, considering both their wired and 2.4ghz are unrivaled when it comes to low latency. Reminder that actual NES controllers only had a 60Hz polling rate.
>>cancerous internal battery on their cheaper offerings, will eventually die and third party batteries are notoriously garbage and expensive
Either use it wired or buy a replacement battery in the rare event the battery dies. Rechargeable is much better than disposable batteries...
>>poor designs
>>crappy D-pads
They are near identical to the original controller and some of the best on the market.
>>awful QC, plenty of reports of sticking buttons
Literally every controller in existence has ""reports"" of issues. Look at the reviews on Amazon and forums and it's universal praise
>>more expensive than just buying the real controllers they're clones of
first of all, where the fuck are you finding new OEM controllers for $30? There is not a chance in hell. And secondly 8bitdo have lower latency and full compatibility without needing an adapter that adds additional lag (even ones like the Brooks which are quite expensive)

These complaints are actually just such complete nonsense and you're an absolute dumbfuck.

>>8279169
nah the saturn dpad is more than enough to compete

>>8270864
Yes.

>>8279602
Have you ever stuck one of Sanwa's balls up your ass?

>>8270937
I have one and I don't think it's that great. When ever I see one of those I think of the smell of Nights into Dreams when I unwrapped it.

>>8274246
I have the PS3 version. It's usable. I wouldn't say it's great.

>>8279018
I have 2 Three button Genesis controllers with good D-pads. All the others have shitty stiff d-pads. The good 3 Button controllers are neat. They're super comfortable to hold and when the Dpad is like that of the six button controller it just feels right.

>>8279035
I have a M30.g
I like it. I think it's annoying I have to replug the receiver every time I power on my "console", but I think that's the USB hub I'm using.

>>8279739
Nice, I'm jealous. My 3-button controllers both have the stiff dpad.
Last Saturday I tried to relive my childhood and use one to play Sonic & Knuckles but I only lasted through the opening act before I opted for a 6-button with the comfy dpad.

>>8279035
I think most of the hate if for underage faggots shilling it. Without that there'd be little to no discussion about it here as everyone would just ignore it because it's shit.

>>8270864
Yes.