/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8272109
no normal person cares sheldon

>>8272113
They would if they saw the difference. Stop supporting a bad product. Shill.

>>8272113
No "normal person" has a Switch in the first place

>>8272124
the switch and Nintendo in general is pretty normie

>>8272124
the switch is a socially acceptable console that me and my popular friends can play unlike the other incel options

Looks exactly the same to me you nitpicking bitch.

>>8272130
dilate

There goes my hope that this would IMPROVE N64 emulation, I guess.

>>8272113
meme/10

>>8272134
t. Bait/falseflag

>>8272134
Literally how? Do you not have eyes? Look at the screenshots. Look at the water. All of the fog and reflection effects are missing. It's just a texture now

>>8272109
Wow just wow

Imagine paying extra to Nintendo for this shit

>>8272240
I don't have to imagine. Feels good having disposable income.

>>8272246
noooo stop buying things I cant afford!

>>8272124
video games have been normie stuff for like ten years now man.

>>8272124
>No "normal person" has <the most normal console/handheld on the market right now>

>>8272253
Where I'm from, longer than that. Even my mom played games with me as a kid.

What a surprise

>>8272262
yeah, I was being charitable. both of my parents did too, as early as 1999. as cringey as this might sound what I actually believe is that they've been fully normie since the Xbox came out

>>8272124
Who the fuck wants to be normal anyways?

wow the feeding trough garbage for normies who can't use pc emulators turned out to be trash, what a fucking revelation. i can't believe nintendo phoned something in, literally shaking rn

>>8272109
It’s everything I expected, and worse. Bravo shigsy, bravo

>>8272124
everyone has a switch though
i play mine more than i play my xsx since i can play slime rancher at work and the xbox cloud thing sucks shit

>>8272109
other than the water being opaque and having four hearts (why not do a three heart run if you're gonna have four? otherwise, grab em all), what is the issue exactly?

>>8272312
the lack of fog, you can see the room in the background too clearly on the Switch

>>8272312
The texture on the water is also completely fucked up

>>8272109
>>8272360
whew, that is rough. I hope those controllers end up being worth the money for the people that bought them.

>>8272291
Based zetsubou shoujo poster

What the fuck are these mappings

>>8272384
The cringe thing about the N64 is it doesn't feel right to play most of its games without actually holding the real controller
Immediately after this, 6 button controllers became more or less fight stick only so mapping this shit to a more modern style of controller is basically impossible, the best you can do is map the C buttons to a stick but it isn't remotely the same
Funnily enough the Gamecube did okay in OoT at least since the Y-Z-X loosely align to left-up-right on the controller and it feels alright

>>8272384
>game tells little Timmy to press B
>B on the controller is A in the game
We can't have that now can we.

>>8272384
>murricans need a bind to clap online

>Hacked Switch
>Retroarch with NTSC filters ans good N64 emulation

The hacking scenne wins again.

>>8272439
>no online emulation
piracyfags we got too cocky

>>8272124
lmfao all of my gf's normie ass friends went bonkers for animal crossing. All of them have a Switch.

>>8272441
>want online emulation
anon have you told your parents you're a faggot??

>>8272124
even the normiest of normies are comfortable playing the occasional smash or mario kart match. nobody wants to play dwarf fortress with you.

>>8272109
Hahahahahahaha
>>8272113
Nintendo could make you suck the shit from their asshole and you'd still be happy to pay them for the opportunity.

>>8272109
>N64 emulators usually suck at accuracy anyway unless you install the right plugins.
You obviously haven't used one since 2009.

>>8272545
Yes. Nintendo is the only good video game company around and they deserve the praise.

>>8272547
They were perfect since 2005

>>8272441
true emulation niggers remember playing smash bros on kaillera in 2006

>>8272384
Those actually aren't bad. I would prefer the B and A in the same physical alignment as the original controller, but this is only slightly less optimal and gets around UI problems.

>>8272552
I know you’re baiting but I still want to say fuck you motherfucker

>>8272554
desu you're probably right, with the exception of a few problem titles that have long been fixed.

Picrel from 2011, OOT is actually quite beautiful.

>N64 emulation is shit
>people start playing the Genesis games to bide their time
>they start playing good games like Phantasy Star, Streets of Rage, MUSHA, Hard Corps and Bloodlines

Yes… YES. SEGABROS, WE FINALLY WON

>>8272604
BASED BASED BASEEEEEEEEEEED

expected
just wait for the decomp

>tfw retroarch emulating the stuff I want on my Switch anyway

>>8272650
Nintendo should have bought Retroarch out so they could get flawless emulation for their products forever and pull the plug on support for you faggots.

>>8272630
The official Mario 64 switch port got btfo by the homebrew port which was released like a month earlier.
I wish the OoT port was done already so it could have happened again.

>>8272246
How much do you pay for your shit sandwiches anon? I hope you're not a poor fag who isn't eating $100 artisan turds.

>>8272604
based

>>8272109
>N64 emulators usually suck at accuracy anyway unless you install the right plugins
this was true for a while but parallel64 is excellent and you can get it through retroarch

give it to me fags i LITERALLY have autism and just kind of want to play through oot n64 on a handheld and i don't want to hack my shit
will i get my money's worth
is the emulation THAT bad
i'd probably play through paper mario 64 at least twice before the year is up

I have zero standards and even I think this looks like shit.

>>8272253
*20+ years
The PlayStation brought normalfags into gaming

>>8272384
>press for applause
Holy shit, they must be joking.

>>8272630
Just a couple more years....

>>8272714
I didn't buy it but it looks pretty bad, anon. I really don't think you should reward nintendo for this, especially if you don't plan to buy the controller. your choice, though.

>>8271623

>>8272842
meant to attach this one, my b

>>8272503

>>8272842
i never had a controller pak as a kid, i can cope that it's simulating my childhood

>>8272547
>>8272554
>>8272579
>I only played the popular games: the posts

Look at what you used to have to consult to play the rest of the library """""perfectly""""" as late as 2012:

http://bhemuhelp.unaux.com/n64mgcl/N64ConfigList.html?i=1

Thankfully, we're past that, but the whole N64 EMULATORS HAVE BEEN GREAT FOR YEARS I COULD PLAY MARIO AND ZELDA WITH NO ISSUES meme needs to die. Soon as you tried playing anything outside that core of 10 or so popular games, the shit would hit the fan.

>>8272853
Last time I tried it (years ago, granted) the Pokemon portraits in the Stadium games still didn't display properly. Emulators also get cucked by the text in the Academy pretty often somehow

>>8272812
Nah, that’s been a feature since the start due to no built in voice chat.
NES and SNES can do it too

>>8272853
I had like 60 roms back then.

>>8272872
I seem to recall that issue, yes. In fact, anything 2D often had problems, usually because the plugins available were absolutely terrible at filtering.

I am not sure about those in particular now, but Angrylion and its Vulkan variant, ParaLLEl-RDP, fixes the vast majority of issues.

>>8272547
Lol no. GlideN64 and Angrylion are quite recent, and they were the only ones able to replicate a good amount of effects. The default shit made by Jabo was total garbage

>>8272853
Even so Zelda was missing a good amount of effects, such as trails popping in and out, lack of proper noise effect emulation, the famous missing Morpha's Ball effects, clunky control setup, etc

>>8272901
Jabo's COULD look nice, at least, provided the game wasn't doing anything crazy. But yeah, compatibility was quite limited compared to even Glide64.

>>8272918
All true, and it's just lovely how that also applies to Nintendo's efforts to this very day.

>>8272604
COULD IT BE
THAT NINTEN
DON'T?

>>8272796
Arcades brought normalfags into gaming, retard.

>>8273125
GENESIS DOES
sixteen bit arcade graphics
GENESIS DOES

>>8272260
The switch has sold about 30 million in North America. That means that less than 10% of people have one. Even a "normie" console is for the top 10% of weirdos.

>>8272384
normies need to have a=a and b=b or else their brain explodes.

>>8272436
Haven't heard this comedy gold meme in a decade.

>>8273148
After anon's autism caused his parents to disown him, he promptly forgot that households with more than one person exist

>>8272604
>Then realize that the only games worth playing are Sonic
>Ultimately drop the whole thing because they're all boring 2D pixelshit and go back to playing 3D vidya

>vidya
jesus, I don't even care about these nintendo compilations but it really attracts a lot of zoomer /v/ tourists

>>8273232
Stop gatekeeping. It hurts the community more than you'd think.

>>8272847
>Back then mags drew you a sexy elf that brought you Tony Hawk and SSX
>The mags didn't even care if the elf was canonically 14
crying in my car right now

>>8273251
>Stop gatekeeping
OH. OK.
Let's just let ALLLLLLLL the 13-year-old gay Black furies run loose on the board - NO - the ENTIRE website! NOTHING could go wrong! NO-THING! The quality would improve immensely-- sitewide!!
Lurk moar?? What are you, a Boomer?! Get FILTERED!

I'm not joking either. A gay black underagedb& doxxed himself on /v/ a month ago.
Also kill yourself.

>>8273253
the green eco sage's daughter is supposed to be 14? wtf

>>8272124
Switch owners confirmed for mental illness

>>8273282
Oh ye. Do the math, Jak X stats canonically put her at 18 years old, Jak X takes place roughly a year after Jak 3, Jak 3 is a year after Jak II, which takes place right after TPL but has a two-year timeskip in the beginning.

>>8273315
naughty dog, indeed

>>8273253
What's crazy is that just from reading your comment on the catalog I already knew what you were talking about

>>8272650
I don't know who this is or where he's from but this image cracks me up, thank you for posting it.

>>8272360
I hate those (old) soul vs (new) souless fags but this time is too real

>>8272109
NOW PAY UP
-Nintendo

>>8273641
based

>>8272714
It’s probably fine. They’re showing this because it’s the worst moment in the game. The emulator is fucking up some specific texture in that one weird room of the Water Temple. I’m sure it’s perfectly playable.

bro they got shining force on this shit? i might seriously play genesis more, their lineup aint half bad

>>8273776
>strider has a whole EIGHT mega memory
bros...

>>8273769
>worst moment in the game
Nah man, I like the dark link fight. It's a nice little miniboss with cool effects all around.

Also Water Temple isn't THAT bad, just tedious and a bit unorganized

>>8273794
No, I just mean it’s the worst moment of emulation in the Switch version. The worst moment of the game is probably Jabu Jabu for me. By that point I’m over the child Link portion and just want to play the Forest Temple.

>>8273802
oh yeah jabu jabu sucks. they should've really cut down on the ruto stuff and focused more on design. it feels a bit unfinished to me

Retards are paying $60 for this shit...

>>8273315
That's quite a stretch...

In prison.

lol

>>8274003
Yes.

>>8274003
Nintendo hire this "man"

>>8272372
The controller is really nice. Feels like a fresh brand new one from back in the nineties, but even nicer. I am currently playing through OoT at the moment and haven't noticed anything too out of place. I guess if I get up to the water temple and it doesn't get patched by the time I do I will wait and hope they patch it.

Worst case scenario I have the perfect controller for emulation.

At least playing through all the cups in Mario Kart 64 was fun. That game runs flawlessly.

>>8274026
>the game runs flawlessly
No ghost support

>>8274032
So? I didn't use it when I was a kid. Don't really care now.

How would they even support it now?

>>8274036
mempak emulation, you eternal imbecile

I was going to buy this scam if the emulation was passable and if it had rollback netcode
>nintendo
Not even controller pak works
The absolute state

Fanboys STILL defend this crap

>>8274042
>>8274050
The virtual console version didn't either. Did no one play virtual console games before?

Why do you care? All you can do is re-race your own ghost. There is no physical memory pak that you can swap with people in real life.

>>8274062
It was shit then and it's shit now, but this is the third time nintendo has sold shitty n64 emulation. You'd think they get it right, but nope, they're still shit at it. They know their main demographic is retarded plant-based dairy lifeforms, so of course they ain't gonna fix shit. Just pay for the third time and open your mouth, you stupid paypig. Here comes the regurgitated shit you love so much.

>>8274062
Slurp harder.

>>8274026
if you have an original one could you take them apart and compare the insides?

>>8274089
Its your lucky day, someone already did it: https://twitter.com/cheesemeister3k/status/1452953672166477825?s=21

>>8272246
>>8272251
BLACKED subscribers

>>8272384
And now people complain because the n64 controller works for n64 games, but other controllers are shit!

>>8272384
>meanwhile on wii u
>just half a generation ago
I always remapped all n64 vc games to use B as A, Y as B and X and A as the more important C buttons depending on the game.

>>8274537
On wii u virtual console games had a dark filter and horrible input lag. They've been botching this stuff for a long time now

>>8274549
>dark filter
I blame zoomers for this
they always use the fucking screens at maximum brightness that the dark filter was necessary to lower it enough to not make the games look like a fucking lightshow.

>>8274140
at least I won't be tempted to spend 150 dollars on one now.

>>8274026
Does it have a real analog stick like the original? With the little gears?

>>8274554
>i blame zoomers for this
they always use the fucking screens at maximum brightness

This is very true. My new-ish trophy wife is a zoomer and its unreal how she keeps the brightness on her phone set to maximum, even when she is in a dark room. I bought us each new iphones with OLED screens two years ago. I compared our phones current max brightness and now hers is much weaker than mine because she wasted her precious OLED lifespan. Nintendo is going to make a killing on replacements for burnt out OLED switche screens when zoomers crank up the brightness because they think OoT is too dark.

>>8274680
Yeah. Looks like it, and feels like it. I don't know exactly how it works and don't want to damage mine by opening it, sorry.

I can't understand why N64 is still a nagging problem. How does the CPU work? Why is it so hard to figure out these quarter century old ass processors and how they handled code? It makes no sense that we can do ray-tracing of light and reflections to produce graphics that are 99% true to life, running all that math and code, but we(nintendo included) can't mimic the way the N64 ate and shat out code.

What kinda batshit did Argonaut out into that system to make it such a cunt?

>>8274554
Do you faggots pick shit to blame on le boomerzoomermoomers out of a hat?

>>8274736
Its because it used a unique architecture to cheat out more 3D processing power. Nowadays everything is standardized and well documented. Even competing standards follow the same conventions. It was the wild west back then. Things were just weird and unique. Even if you give new hire engineers all the trade secret documentation, its so bizarre and archaic that they would spend years figuring out how to make it work on modern systems. Which of course a wealthy company like nintendo can do, but they simply don’t. Not worth keeping a few guys on the payroll to maintain the knowledge and skills when you can cheaply shit out progressively worse emulation over time as new teams half-assedly port the work of the last team’s half assed work.

>>8274554
>>8274697
You guys are wrong about this one.
Zoomers hate brightness and love terrible shit like dark mode and auto brightness

>>8274745
Yeah, but in the end the processors still use calculus, geometry, trigonometry, algebra, arithmetic, and binary, hexadecimal, the roman alphabet, and arabic(actually indian) numerals.
It amazes me how, of all the gaming systems there are, the N64's processors are so hard to get right, which is amazing because the NES and SNES both had lots of games with co-processor work being done and yet emulation has pretty much taken care of all of it now, but with the N64 you have no games with co-processors(i believe), so it's just a CPU, a "GPU", and memory like basically all typical computers/consoles.

It's no wonder the system BTFO everything graphically until 1998 when PCs were finally able to catch it. Argonaut pulled some freak wizardry. But then again, they also made a polygon game run on the SNES in 1993, and it didn't suck. That's astounding itself.

>>8274751
they ironically love those because it's cool and trendy.
but they also unironically up the brightness to max because they are brainless childs that get attracted to bright colors like moths.

>>8274751
Dark mode on websites and anything using a monitor is awesome though.
Black text on a white background shits on the eyes, and colors in images pop more with a dark gray/black background. But games should be vibrant and clear, even when foggy.

>>8274809
zoomer detected.

>>8274809
Dark mode is bad for your eyes.

>>8274026
You are a massive faggot lmao

>>8274697
Trophy wife?

>>8274026
It uses potentiometers so you know it's shit.

>>8274549
>>8274554
That dark color palette was around since the Wii.

>>8274860
It's light mode that's bad for your eyes. What?

>>8274736
It's mostly figured out now. Granted, not quite to the cycle-accurate level (there was a dude working on that, but he may have given up), but you don't really need that other than perhaps to emulate lag and timings correctly, which may or may not be needed to get a few things in a few games working just like real hardware, but mostly unnoticeable stuff.

>>8274970
I bet you use flux too

>>8272360
The picture in OP is the same texture as the JP game, your image is from the US version

>>8274984
Why would you not use flux?

>>8274969
The wii versions didn't have the filter

>>8275002
Yes, they did, at least on NES games. See the following:

https://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Famicom_Color_Palette#Chart

I noticed it way back in '07 or so with SMB3 on the Wii VC, which I thought looked much too dark, and I confirmed it by testing it against my NES.

>>8275009

>>8275015
I made this image, likely around 2012-2014. It's nuts to see it show up again. I never knew how image editing works os that's why the text is all over the place and not centered.

>>8274970
Here’s the deal with dark mode and why its bad for your eyes, especially for dark rooms. Your eyes are dilating to the average brightness coming into them. This made sense in the evolutionary context which created them. So your pupils are completely open. But those bright whites are too strong. The text is actually burning those few cells receiving the light. Its like overexposing photography except its permentantly damaging your eyes. If you are using a screen in a dark room (which you should never do, turn on a lamp at least), its actually less damaging to keep on light mode but just turn down the total brightness. My iphone has a feature called “reduce white point” which is very useful for this, and for extending OLED lifespan.

>>8274897
After being a NEET living off my investments for a few years, I had a mid life crisis at age 32. I went to an anime convention and asked any autistic nerdy white girl under 120 pounds to go on a date with me. Got a lot of good responses, and eventually settled on the most autistic girl with no friends (she says she hates women) to marry. She weighs 95 pounds so I worry about her every time she gets pregnant but no problems so far. Anyway this has to be retro related for this board, so just know we play N64 games together every day. She really likes the pokemon stadium minigames and mario party 2 (because of the costumes)

>>8275027
It's in the EmuGen wiki, and it often gets posted for educational purposes over in /emugen/.

I made this one around that time, too, and I saw it posted last night after not having seen it for years. Best believe I fukken saved it.

>>8275035
As long as you're both happy, that's fine. That's crazy skinny, though. Hope she isn't on that anorexia, shit can kill.
Cool about the Mario Party 2, though. The costumes are adorbs.

>>8275042
Don’t worry she doesn’t have an eating disorder. She is just really small, proportionally. She must be like 3 standard deviations below average female height. Some women are just small.

>>8275035
FWIW, when I said dark mode above, I meant turning down all light. Text too. Very mild lighting. And yes indeed, keep a low fire going in your room. Not total darkness.

>>8274990
That's wrong though, all the images are from the Japanese versions speedrunner took them from the N64, Wii VC and Switch NSO versions

>>8274990
That's wrong though, all the images are from the Japanese versions, a speedrunner took them from the N64, Wii VC and Switch NSO versions

>>8274549
>>8274554
>>8274697
It's not a "dark filter".

It's just Nintendo's stupid way of dealing with potential epilepsy concerns.
They would also edit ROMs to remove excess flashing lights.

It should be optional anyway, it's not like the majority of users are photosensitive.

>>8274770
I believe the N64's hardest function to emulate has been the RCP, the "Reality Co-Processor". The effects were hard to produce fully for a long time due to a lack of understanding of the complicated architecture and microcodes. This is really a non-issue now but I imagine 2008 tier plugins will still prevail sadly.

Thing is, N64 games relied on microcode to optimize graphics for the RCP.

The RCP is divided internally into two functions, the RDP (Reality Display Processor) and the RSP (Reality Signal Processor)

According to Wikipedia: "The RSP performs transform, clipping, and lighting calculations, and triangle setup."

"The Reality Display Processor is a fixed-pipeline rasterizer and pixel drawing engine (including Z-buffering). The RDP performs in-order rasterization and drawing or texturing of pixels in the framebuffer, with a separate memory frontend both directly accessing memory, and moving data to and from the local storage texture cache."

>>8274554
one of the more retarded things i've heard recently

>>8275161
How does someone even come up with this batshit insanity?
This is the kinda stuff that makes me actually respect LEGIT computer scientists and coders.
Knowing how a physical object will send ones and zeros back and forth to make things work in a professional manner sounds like wizardry to me, and I'm a chemist. Everything being timed and happening at light speed as well.

>>8275157
Hate that shit. Did N get a huge lawsuit in the early 2000s that made them care about seizures and kids playing games for more than 30 minutes at a time? They ruined the Ether spell.

>>8275182
Never heard of Pokemon Shock?

>>8272109
>N64 emulators usually suck at accuracy anyway unless you install the right plugins
N64 emulation has been miles better than this for literally 15yrs. and theres TAS videos from 2006 that have better emulation than this if youre 16 and dont believe me

nintendo being incompetent enough to literally SELL emulation thats not even up to 2006 level of standards is, frankly, unsurprising given how completely retarded they are in regards to seeking litigation against romhackers and the like

GG you incompetent slants
way to make the switch somehow appear even MORE underpowered

>>8275161
>This is really a non-issue now but I imagine 2008 tier plugins will still prevail sadly

Well, the situation is getting better, at least. The only things that are preventing the old plugins from dying out completely are Project64 and the myriad shitty Mupen forks on Android. Every competent version of Mupen64Plus now includes either GLideN64, ParaLLEl-RDP, or both, and Mupen's HLE RSP plugin is finally good enough for most games.

>>8275207
The ANIME yes, but I didn't think any of their games caused problems.
Jap kids are defects apparently.

>>8275213
Even PJ64 has adopted GlideN64 but even that's not enough. They should really drop the Jabo video shit altogether. It hasn't been updated since like 2008.

>>8275215
You think flashing lights on a TV screen coming from an anime are totally different than flashing lights on a TV screen coming from a game? Obviously they were both seen as dangerous after the event.

>>8275224
So we should just remove all bright effects from old games now? Because a small minority could potentially have epilepsy??

>>8272109
I always knew there was a reason why I still haven't junked the WiiU.

I remember when the Wii came out, everyone was impressed with the N64 emulation. How did they manage to make it worse?

>>8275495
Nintendo doesn't care and they know that retards will pay the big bucks for poorly emulated rom files just because it's on le current hardware meme

>>8274554
no it's because boomers programmed games that gave kids seizures you peabrain.

>>8275495
god i played so many fucking hours of mario party 2 on wii

>>8272109

>xbox and psn ports
>updated with extras
>are still criticized for it

Why do they still keep sucking nintendo. VC does the minimum to run games released 30 years ago and they still get praise. With the exception of that 3DS collection I don't remember a nintendo port that improved the game.

>>8274990
There is no difference between the japanese and the north american release besides which text language is being displayed
The room is intended to a have a reflection effect that disappears when passing by the tree right before the Dark Link fight

>>8275698
>With the exception of that 3DS collection I don't remember a nintendo port that improved the game.
i dont know why they didn't do more 3d NES games. excitebike was great. kirby's adventure is spectacular. urban champion, what the fuck?

>>8272853
>Look at what you used to have to consult to play the rest of the library """""perfectly""""" as late as 2012:
>90% of the games use the exact same config
Yeah that's about right.

>>8272664
Im sure they tried to reach that milestone but sadly serendipity isnt something that happens regularly I suppose.

>>8275710
They didn’t sell well. Nintendo released games in that line that people didn’t give a shit about. Sure there was Kirby and Kid Icarus but the first few games they launched were, respectively
>Xevious, a top down shooter that is extremely beloved in Japan and a literally what? everywhere else
>Urban Champion, a game that has been bashed and slated since the early 90s
>Excitebike, a fun game but a very simple and repetitive one
>Twin Bee, another top down shooter of a game that is popular in Japan but not in the west

Kirby and Kid Icarus might’ve sold well but the others didn’t and since Nintendo looked at the sales as one whole instead of separately, the line was deemed a failure and they moved on

>>8275781
>Kirby and Kid Icarus might’ve sold well but the others didn’t and since Nintendo looked at the sales as one whole instead of separately, the line was deemed a failure and they moved on
its kinda mindboggling how out-of-touch they can be, even by major intl corporate standards
in-terms of overall software quality, theyve mostly been treading water for going on 20yrs now. outside of a scant few standout titles, 90% of their most beloved games were from over 2 decades ago

they kick and scream over fans making free projects, and toss out C&Ds like its goin out of style
and then they turn around and sell emulators and roms (in a subscription-based model no less) that are of such poor quality that leaves people wondering how their 15yo console was able to do it better
its absolutely pathetic

>>8272853
>2012
m8
heres a vid of a TAS of OoT from 2006
theres no texture glitches, no transparency issues like in OPs pic. this is basic bitch shit that hasnt been an issue in emulation of OoT for nearly 20yrs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HFdETA4GhU
(TAS starts at 5:10:25)
skip through it to look for yourself. the game runs fine, and the biggest "issue" is the delayed menu iirc, a side-effect of OoTs odd choice to have different frame-rates between gameplay and pause menu (20FPS vs 30FPS respectively)

also
>Soon as you tried playing anything outside that core of 10 or so popular games, the shit would hit the fan.
playing any N64 game outside of the ~10 good ones rarely ever happens cuz the N64 "has no gaems™"

>>8272604
>>8273125
>>8273129
Even better is that Nintendo now makes Sega controllers.

>>8275867
wait wut?
i thought the repro genny cuntrollers were from retro-shit?

>>8275904
Strange timeline, but it's true.

>>8274680
No. It's a modern x/y axis stick and I believe it uses joy on parts. There's a few breakdowns up on YouTube already.

>>8275942
>it uses joy on
Meant to write joy-con

>>8275942
i guarantee theyre gonna fuck up the deadzone
N64 had a very particular deadzone as in it was huge and like 60% of the stick

>>8272109

>>8276012
HE
DONT
MISS

>>8272656
Retroarch isn't even an emulator, the authors of the actual emulators would just nuke their repositories and keep any future progress under closed source. People asking for retroarch on anything just hate actual emulation, because the only thing retroarch does for emulation is killing projects by being parasites

>>8276080
I'm curious. Let's say, I maintain a FLOSS emulator of some console. RetroArch people make a core of my emulator. I can focus solely on my branch and let they handle all the work regarding the port to RetroArch. So, when do I get fucked up and why?

>>8276104
just look at duckstation, dosbox and even the bsnes cores

>>8275710
>>8275781
i'm genuinely baffled they didn't do 3D Classics for the Super Mario Bros trilogy

>>8276135
They showcased a demo of Mario 1 in 3D at E3 but they just didn’t release it for some reason

>>8276135
You gotta love that Sega did a similar thing with their Sega 3D Collection game thing which has not only Sonic in 3D but Puyo, Altered Beast, Power Drift and Fantasy Zone which all work surprisingly very well in 3D

>>8275813
Isn't part of it the fact that they're a privately-owned enterprise? Not to say that being publicly traded is really any better, since then it's a game of chasing market trends to please the stockholders, but at least it does force a company to look OUT into the world and see what's going on and brings added pressure to adapt instead of remaining insular, ESPECIALLY in regards to the home market, which Jap companies and doubly so Nintendo are apt to do.

>>8276175
If anything Nintendo should be more like Tencent.

>>8276123
Cores or standalone? What happened to them?

>>8275710
Don't forget Kid Icarus with fixed movement and background.

This image has been posted about 200 times in 24 hours.

The fact you have to get to water temple to find ONE room that's fucked up shows me it's not a big deal.

Where's the other example of the bad emulation? Is it literally this one area and nothing else? Talk about much Ado about nothing

>>8276371
https://youtu.be/K3X-W1SLOvY?t=18
https://youtu.be/0GV91jvKucw?t=297

Can’t believe Genesis really does what Nintendon’t

>>8274554
>zoomerszoomerszoomerszoomers
Every time.

>>8276629
Stop being the cause of everything wrong in the world then

>>8276371
>The fact you have to get to water temple to find ONE room that's fucked up shows me it's not a big deal.
It's not the one room. The fog itself for the entire game is fucked up. Also this is a game that's been rereleased numerous times that never had any of these issues. Why are you defending a corporation that doesn't care this much?

>>8276636
Rent free.

Honestly, this should the nail in the coffin for emulation.

Original hardware or nothing at all.

>>8276671
>Honestly, this should the nail in the coffin for emulation.
it honestly isn't the emulation's fault. It's Nintendo's. Emulation can be better than this, it has been before. They just mishandled it horribly.

>>8272441
That's because they know the minute they do, Nintendo would nuke the entirety of the emulation scene.

>>8276674
Nintendo literally has a perfect N64 emulator; the MegaLeaks showed that they do. They just want people to think emulation sucks.

>>8272441
bro, your netplay?

>>8276683
>They just want people to think emulation sucks.
I honestly don't see that as a real endgame here. I think they just got lazy and wanted to pump out a few poorly emulated roms because Nintentards are still going to buy them.

>>8276683
They're right. Based Nintendo

>>8276683
>Nintendo is obviously falseflagging to make us and our inferior way of life look bad
The absolute state of emuniggers.

>>8275781
>bizarrely hacked together ports running at 30fps
An improvement you say?

>>8276750
No, I did not say they’re an improvement

>>8276371
And this right here, friends, is why Nintendo is not compelled to give a shit about QC.

>>8276692
The real answer is that Japan doesn't really give a shit about retro gaming the same that Burgers do; not to mention that the N64 was basically to them what the Saturn was to Burgers. So they REALLY don't give a shit about it's quality and shat something out to get people to stop bugging them about it. The few people who REALLY give a shit about textures and lag will be outnumbered by the people who are just going to buy it to have it.

>normies think Nintendo can't emulate anything past SNES
>they stop asking for it
>Emufaggots start doing big press releases about how THEY can do better
>Nintendo now sees them out in the open and sues the shit out of them
>Most modern kiddies have no idea how to just join forums and pass links quietly, so a big dent gets made in the modern emulation scene now that it's not dirt easy to find online

>>8276175
nintendo shares are publicly traded on the nikkei iirc, and can even be bought in places they ARENT publicly traded (US being the most notable) by proxy thanks to off-shore pink sheets hedges
so most definitely not private

nintendos issues, imo, arent really due to being private/public/whatever, but more so just being totally out-of-touch. shareholders/board members, regardless of whether private or public, are only worried about the bottom line. if you can keep them HODLing, through either direct action like sales, or fake and gay marketing hype, its all good.

the thing that i find so perplexing is that a LOT of the current execs at nintendo are the same dudes that were in the trenches punching ASM code in 15hrs a day during nintendos golden age
these guys had the entire industry by the balls for like 10yrs, and they let it get away from em. now thats years ago, but theyve only lost more and more sight of their consumers since
i think the REAL genesis of their current issue started after them making untold amounts from the wii. ever since then, theyve been dryhumping that biz model of "appealing to non-gamers", without realizing that
1) gimmicks are a huge turn-off for most gamers
and
2) most "casual gamers" are already gaming on their phones (which in most cases now are more powerful than nintendos hardware)

they eschewed their own rabid fanbase, taking them for granted
all because they misinterpreted the wii as a pattern, and not what it actually was a fluke

>>8276927
Yeah, the WiiU proved that fluke hardcore too. They need to get back to making actual consoles again. Keep Nintendo shop and online, and treat their old systems with respect because retro games can print money for them if they did them right.
8bitdo's SN30 Pro should be the controller packed with the Switch, and TWO of them as well. It should never have been up to a third party to make a decent controller.

>>8276687
>retro*rch
gross

>>8276972
Retro gaming only "prints money" in the second hand market. Even back in the days of the Wii eShop, people were mad that you had to pay $3 more of a SNES game and insisted that NES games should have been $1 instead of $5.

>>8276671
>Original hardware or nothing at all.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>8277168
That was fixed years ago, bruh.

>>8277049
If Nintendo makes $0.30 cents per download of a rom on the store, and they get 10-30 million total downloads, that's good money for what they'd spend serving them out. The SNES Classic had 20 games, and cost $70, and you got TWO GREAT controllers and hardware, so you figure $1.50 per game. The mini consoles sold pretty well, except Sony's bullshit. There's a market, and as long as you're not being a greedy fuck, people will pay.
I bought the Castlevania Advance Collection despite having all the roms for free already, because it's a bargain at $20, and very well done in presentation by M2. With the prices for the CV advance games going for over $60 EACH right now, Konami could have gotten greedy at $30+, but they didn't.

>>8277178
I think that anon was showing an example of accurate emulation.

>>8277049
there was less fresh meat in the water back then
even when i was in highschool, like 10yrs ago, most kids who played games knew about emulators, and how to get roms
hell half the school was wandering around the computer lab battling pokemons cuz some nerd had snuck VBA into the schools network so it was on every computer
so the idea of paying anything at all seemed overpriced
personally, i still agree with this wholeheartedly

but nowadays is different
zoomers who grew up on goyphones and mainstream social media couldnt find roms and emulators on the first page of google, so as far as they knew, they didnt exist. theres also a non-zero amount of them who seem to think that emulation is literally illegal, despite it having legal precedent for longer than some of them have been alive

meanwhile, in between jerking their adderall shriveled diccs to clothed twitch thots, theyve been bombarded with "secondary nostalgia" from their favorite speedtrannies.
they think **debatable**
>"such wow!!!1 this looks like a cool game"
then go on ebay and see some scalper charging $500 for mario 64
>"le sigh..."
they say
but not all hope is lost, little zoomie. based nintendo is here to charge you an exorbitant amount to sell you poorly emulated (digital) copies of the old games you have misplaced """nostalgia""" for
etc...
tl;dr
the niggercattle concentration in vidya today is much more dense
they got em so docile. they just shit

>prints money
the reason people say /vr/ "prints money" is because in regards to emu theres no fucking overhead when contrasted with any other type of development
full on AAA development is ungodly expensive
indie development is less so, but still not trivial
even simple ports can be quite difficult to do correctly, and require a team that knows what theyre doing
but were not talking about any of that shit
were talking about emulation
it was already low effort, and they somehow went even lower

>>8277184
This.
After ParaLLEl RSP-RDP plugin and Mupen64PlusNext (or m64p for standalone) n64 is sorted out, no ifs or buts.

>>8277204
Eeeeh there's still a few nagging things here and there, but yeah, 99% of the library is fully playable and like 95% is close to perfect.

After thinking about it a bit, I think this is literally the extent of quality control that goes into the emulation of these games:

>does it boot and display audio and video
>yes
>are there massive glitches like lack of textures, the characters falling through the ground, random freezing, etc.
>no
>ship it

Anything else, they probably see as unnecessary, and only hardcore fans will notice the discrepancies.

>>8277210
the real question is how tf nintendo managed to bungle it up so bad
i know were talking about the company that sold headered roms, but i mean cmon

>>8277231
Lmao holy shit really? Which release?

>>8277223
>>8277231
Nintendo should pay Hamster or M2 to do the work. They've both done great work on retro consoles and arcade games, and seem to have their wits about them when porting games and building emulators. The TG16 and Genesis mini consoles were both done by M2 and both have fantastic emulation. Hamster's Arcade Archives on Switch play near perfectly too.

>>8272630
>barely anything left
>progress is grinding to a halt
Wish I knew how to do decomp stuff.

>>8277448
I don't know the technicality behind it, why did it stop?

>>8275009
Not part of your conversation but I found that link interesting thanks.

>>8277519
It's not stopped, just very slow. The reason is that the decomp team has a reservation system so, when one of them claims an item, only that specific guy is allowed to work on it until they're ready to start merging it into the code. Or something like that. There's about half a dozen things left to do before the version they're working on can theoretically start being ported and all but one thing is claimed. Adding that everything left is apparently more difficult than normal means it's absolutely plodding along now.
Of course, there's the fact that porting efforts technically could've started a while ago since the existing decomp code is working and open, but no one's gotten on it yet.

I was playing on Parallel, which is supposed to be the most accurate N64 emulator, and the sound emulation was ass. Over modulation on tons of stuff, and audio stuttering fucking everywhere. I have an RTX 2070 super and Ryzen 7 series cpu, so it's a fault of the emulator.

I'm sorry emulatorfags, but my N64 on my CRT provides much better experience, and I base that on the sound alone. sound is such an underrated aspect of videogaming.

The Gamecube version of OOT is still the best official version(better video quality than Wii), lmao.

>>8277185
>zoomers who grew up on goyphones and mainstream social media couldnt find roms and emulators on the first page of google
What the fuck kinda reality do you live in where searching for "game rom/iso" doesn't instantly net you with links to Wowroms, Coolrom and other basic sites as the very first few results? Jesus, I know oomerposters are delusional when it comes to their narrative but this is too much.

>>8277663
Yep, I was proven correct after reading the rest of this schizophrenia-infused post.

>>8277653
Have you considered the fact that perhaps your settings were fucked?

>>8277674
The Retroarch settings were on default, I don't see why the default settings on an "accurate" emulator would result in shit sound, but please educate me on which options I should change.

>>8277662
Close, but the remake on 3DS takes the cake. Simply by making the boots a mappable button. Makes the Water Temple actually awesome and enjoyable.

>>8277231
>>8277249
>>8277278
Tomohiro Kawase, creator of the iNES emulator, managed to land a job at Nintendo in late 1998.
For the Animal Crossing ROMs on GameCube and the eventual Virtual Console releases, he kept using his iNES tools, which generate a header at the start of the ROM.

>>8277278
>M2
Your service is now $150 per month.

So they built an emulator from scratch instead of just using mupen64plus?

>>8277723
>mupen64plus
Well they wanted to get Mario Kart running properly, so yeah.

>>8277718
Don't make it a service. Capcom has their Stadium Arcadium system on Switch where you dl the CPS/CPS2 emulator for free, and then buy and dl the games as you want and they play using that emulator.
Nintendo could make more money by being less greedy. They need to tell their controllers in the yakuza to stop being faggots about things. Cutting your fingers off doesn't make you intelligent, it makes you a faggot. Yakuza suck at running businesses.

>>8272384
What's wrong with it?

>>8277727
>worst mario kart runs okay
>greatest game of all time™ >>8272109 looks and runs like shit
good thing they had their priorities in order

I kinda like the water desu

>>8277686
RetroArch itself is not the emulator, but rather the frontend through which you interact with the emulation core.

Let's start with RetroArch itself, which is notoriously finicky, and its defaults are not always the best. It's very much a program you have to tune to your particular setup to get best results. Audio stutter issues almost always have to do with the video settings, which sounds funny at first, but has to do with the way RetroArch handles sync. See, by default it syncs to both audio and video, and uses a method called Dynamic Rate Control to help sync up the game audio to your monitor's refresh rate. If your refresh rate isn't properly detected, audio will not sync correctly, and you'll get stutters. When it does work, you get no stutter, no pops or crackles, and smooth scrolling all at once.

So what should you do? Since you're wanting to use ParaLLEl-RDP, go to Settings > Drivers, set video to vulkan, audio to xaudio (or wasapi for less latency). Load a game, then go to Video > Output, and wait for the Estimated Screen Refresh Rate value to stabilize, then press the button to set it. Go back up to Settings, and make sure Threaded Video is off.

If you're using a high refresh rate monitor with VRR, you may have to go to Synchronization and set Sync to Exact Content Framerate to On.

As for the emulator core itself, I notice you keep mentioning Parallel. If you mean the core that's called by that name, that is actually an old core that's no longer worked on and is only kept around for older and slower devices. What you want to use is Mupen64Plus-Next, which is much better and has the best plugins. Load that, and set both video and RSP plugins to Parallel, and you're good.

>>8277742
no you dont

>>8274770
Argonaut did? You mean buck bumble?

>>8277734
Meant to say:
"150 per year" not month, I don't want to give Nintendo any ideas after all.

>>8277734
>>8277750
150 a month is nothing, get a fucking job.

>>8277753
>spend 150 at the bar a month
or
>have wizard friend that can magically make infinite beer, also his beer tastes better and I customize the beer to taste how i want

>>8277756
Or I could just pay the goddamn $150 like a functional adult with disposable income instead of sipping on hobo piss straight from an infected puddle in an alley.

>>8277753
>get a fucking job
I'm not NPC enough to work for bullshit earning.
I'm not NPC(or faggot) enough to take mask+vaccine dick in my ass.
I'm not NPC enough to pay taxes.
Fuck you. I earn money illegally and I don't waste what I earn. I would pay $150 for something worth $150.

>>8272109
What's with the Fairy Ocarina?

>>8277745
why are you trying to argue with me

>>8272604
Thanks for the large sum of licensing $$$ bing bing boys

>>8277743
Okay so I did that and my problems disappeared, but now I can't change roms without Retroarch crashing. I can't change the core options anymore because of this either, I'm stuck at 240p 1x.

>>8277820
Fuck, I hate when that happens. Easily the worst thing about RetroArch right there.

Which audio driver did you end up with, xaudio or wasapi? Did you mess with the Synchronization settings?

As for the core settings, you'll have to dive into the RetroArch folder (should be under C:\RetroArch-Win64), go to config, Mupen64Plus-Next, and open Mupen64Plus-Next.opt with a text editor. Look for the following line:

mupen64plus-parallel-rdp-upscaling = "1x"

You can change that to 2, 4, or 8.

>>8277759
>Pay $150 a month for 9 roms
There's no "functioning adult" to be found here.

>>8277765
Yikes. Emulationfags really are the vegans of gaming.

>>8277830
Also should mention, if this ends up being too much of a fuzz, try m64p. It is just as accurate, can do upscaling with ParaLLEl-RDP, and while it doesn't have anywhere near the same amount of features and it has a slight bit of audio delay, it just werks.

There's also this:

https://parallel-launcher.ca/

It's RetroArch with a GUI launcher for use only with the N64 cores that's much simpler to use and also aims for just werks.

>>8277765
Baste and redpillt

>>8277830
Thank you so much! I'm saving your advice to a notepad for future reference, I'll be sure to help anyone with the same issue. N64 looks beautiful on an OLED with CRT royale

>>8277835
I buy some games. You can both buy and get for free, both, depending on what is and is not a good deal, what extras you might get, etc.
I'd buy an N64, and I'm seriously considering it, with an Everdrive, before I'd pay for these shitty emulated shits on N's online service.
Just like I'm going to install an ODE in my PS1 and mod my PS2 to play isos. These are the common sense things to do in current times.

>>8277765
You sound like someone I know, and no one in his life respects him whatsoever. I hope you are at least a better person than him, but I doubt it.

>>8277765
hopefully you'll get caught soon, don't think the law will be impressed by your anonymous shit talking and animefagging.

>>8277865
I'm an avowed asshole, and I dgaf about respect from little bitch-ass faggots.
I don't sell out. Not for anyone. I have zero friends and zero qualms about that fact, because I honestly find 99.999% of humanity to be disgusting and worthless. These last two years have proven me so goddamn right, it shocked even me. Even I didn't know human being were this shitty.

>>8277871
I'd have been caught a long time ago if I was careless. I pirate software for the same reason I don't pay taxes.
My money is valuable and I spend it very carefully. I ain't buying a 30yo game unless it has decent fluff I can't get from the OG rom. Nobody gets my money(my material earnings from my expended time and energy) unless I want them to get it.
If I want methamphetamine, I'll make my own because I know chemistry and I can do it for fraction of the price.

Nintendo needs to do better if they wanna sell me roms and an emulator on Switch. Period. No excuses.

>>8277714
>For the Animal Crossing ROMs on GameCube and the eventual Virtual Console releases, he kept using his iNES tools, which generate a header at the start of the ROM.
but why, when he had all the data and info from ninty?

>>8277278
I guess ninty would consider this shamefur dispray if they had to hire smelly outsiders to handle their precious first-party titles.

>>8277723
>So they built an emulator from scratch
no, they reused the wiiu-vc-emu, has the same issues.

Is Mupen64 the best option for N64 emulation?
I tried out the last build before they moved to LLEC or whatever it is using now that doesn't let you fuck with the video options and I had sound crackling issues with Goldeneye.
Sound issues normal with Mupen or that authentic to Goldeneye?

>>8277029
>being such a low iq nigger

disgusting

>>8277663
>Wowroms, Coolrom and other basic sites as the very first few results?
lel enjoy your shitcoin miners bro

i feel like this is exactly the reason zoomers are so terrified of emulation
they go onto coolrom or some other shit site with horrible dumps and dl some random .exe file like fucking retards

>>8277834
wait
$150/mo ?
youre pullin my leg
for what? 2003 level of N64 emulation?
does it come with anything else?

>>8278939
>lel enjoy your shitcoin miners bro
Sounds like (You) are the one projecting your tech ignorance on others, but whatever helps you not feel insignificant at night.

>>8278954
lmao dude if youre getting roms off of coolroms youre straight nigger tier
enjoy shitty headered roms

>>8272109
emulation is garbage when it comes to play games the proper way
that's why ps1 games looked better on ps2 than on ps3 somehow

>>8278954
Seriously though, pirating games is one of the few ways to get viruses in 2021. Old pros like us don’t have that problem, but expecting zoomers and gen alphas to navigate the seedy underbelly of the internet just to play some ancient games for free is foolish.

>>8278945
its 70 a year
for a small library of popular roms
and you get the Animal Crossing expansion with it
also some access to exclusive offers like the reproduction controllers (some of which are nice)

>>8279107
is this what the kids these days call "cope"?

>>8279158
eh, i thought i was being pretty fair about it
the emulation is the weakest part of the deal
I'm not sure I'll do it again next year, but I'm getting the Animal Crossing expansion anyways so i'll probably give it a shot

>>8277662
>>8277687

Hot take here, I can only really go with the original. I'm a big purist of the game, I don't like the censorship added onto each revision. Past NTSC 1.0 on N64, (or was it 1.1?) All versions gradually add more censorship. On N64, fire temple chants, ganon's blood, and some unrelated stuff was removed. On Gamecube, the Gerudo symbol was switched from a moon and star to the one we see today (I presume to avoid offending muslims)

3DS version amps it up even more by lightening up dark areas from the original game, removing the blood splatters from the bottom of the well and the shadow temple, cutting out the last traces of Gerudo symbolism, etc

There are patches that remove the censorship from master quest for gameplay on the original N64 though, and I find it nice.

/nerd rant over

>>8277851
Agree, it skips out all of the computer stuff. There's just something more cozy and better about sitting in front of a CRT, plugging some good wires in, and playing the game.

Granted there's nothing really wrong with emulation but I'll take an original experience unless the original is really really fucking awful or something.

>>8279295
That, and they also fixed glitches and exploits from version to version. Not the biggest deal, especially if you're not a speedrunner, but AFAIK even version 1.0 has no gamebreaking glitches, or anything that triggers for no reason, i.e. they're the kind of glitches you have to go well out of your way to trigger, and are fun to mess around with.

>>8278496
Either because he was more comfortable with his tools, or because Nintendo hired him precisely because he already had tools made on his own time (i.e. less budget needed)

Apparently Kawase playtested games for VC on a custom build of VirtuaNES

I wouldn't have much of a complaint if they had a lobby system for the multiplayer games. Would be a lot more convenient than trying to set up netplay on PC.

All i want is a Mouse and keyboard support for N64 fps games, 1864GEPD works only for GoldenEye and Perfect Dark

>>8279295
>ganon's blood
honestly it's a crime that they changed it
the red blood wad he coughed up was one of the most memorable parts to me as a kid
I'm being genuine here

>>8272109
I don't understand why you'd try to go for accuracy when you can make simple visual improvements without breaking the game by upping the internal resolution, proper filtering that doesn't turn the texture into mud and antialiasing.
wii VC is the best looking because of that, as for the switch version, clearly they fucked something up hard because it's not even on par with the average emulator, it's missing effects (fog), the water texture is weird and other things I can't quite catch with the eye but my brain does.

>>8275698
The 3DS port isn't even a straight improvement, it's a mixed bag of good graphical additions and annoying and cringe changes.

Are there any other examples of shit or is it LITERALLY one room you're in for 5 minutes in 15 games?

>>8276927
Nintendo is definitely disconnected from its userbase, but that's true for every video game corporation. Even CD projekt now only care about trannies. Nintendo must be going old school with survey picked normies in play tests. It doesn't feel like they have any real direction and just go with what seems to be popular at the time.

>>8283503
>Are there any other examples of cope or is it LITERALLY the one cope I've been having for 5 hours in 15 threads?

>>8283503
fog rendering in the entire game is completely fucked up, this is not a case of a cherrypicked issue, pls stop trying to excuse this lazy horse shit

>>8283570
desu the depth fog in the lost woods was so over done it actually looks better without the grey mist hanging over the whole screen

>>8283570
But bottom looks better

>>8283503
go look at any footage of people playing it
the fog rendering is all kinds of fucked. it removes fog where its supposed to be, while simultaneously adding a general haziness on basically everything
considering this is just the 1.2 version of the rom, idk how they even managed to fuck it up this badly. you could pop that same rom into a really outdated build of P64, on a shitty toaster PC, and have a better time

imo the MUCH bigger issue is the controls
once again they failed to compensate for the N64s large deadzone, so fine granular movements are basically impossible to do accurately. this affects both aiming as well as even simple shit like walking a straight line
worse still, the controls cant be re-mapped unless you have one of those switch pro controllers. the default controllers have A and B set up gameboy style, with them going to the switchs A and B respectively (so rotated 90 degrees counterclockwise from normal). the c-buttons are all kinds of fucked too. they mapped em to the right analog stick, but then they also put C-left as the Y button, and C-down as the X button
wheres C-right then?
there isnt one. you have to flick right on the right stick
and from what i saw, even the Z-button (arguably one of the most important buttons in OoT) is fucked. its mapped to that smaller bumper on the left, while L (a button basically unused in ALL N64 games) takes the main left shoulder button
and keep in mind were talking about a fucking emulator here. re-mapping buttons has been standard in emulation since forever

if i didnt know any better id think that nintendo WANTS people to pirate their old games

>>8283656
it looks washed out as fuck
what are you on m8?

I'm pretty sure for most people, they just want to play the game again and only remember how much fun the game was. They have no recollection of what the game looked like on a crt 20 years ago.

>>8283669
re the Z button, this is similar to what aftermarket N64 controllers consistently get wrong; pairing L and R rather than Z and R

>>8283768
This. Let's all keep in mind this is geared entirely toward normies, people who may have played these games back when they were kids but do not obsess over details like we do and have far too much going on in their lives to give a shit. They just know it's Ocarina, and it's now playable on their Switch. We, the obsessives from Nintendo's perspectives, could not matter less into their calculations.

>>8283812
i think youre missing the point
nintendo is selling more like renting out, really 2008 tier N64 emulation for $50 a year. subpar emulation that has less features than even the most barebones of emulators

regardless of whether anyone was dumb enough to buy it, people are still gonna make fun of that because its absolutely pathetic

>>8283845
And I'm saying Nintendo doesn't give a shit because they're banking that normies will not be scrutinizing this shit to anywhere near the level that we are. Yes, it's shit, all of us here know it's shit, but as long as the game plays, displays an image and outputs sound, and there's no real gamebreaking glitches like your character falling into the void out of fucking nowhere, it's 10/10 perfect as far as they and the normies are concerned.

>>8283845
Imagine crying about official emulation in 2021. Like, we've had Nintendo emulation since the Wii. Shouldn't it be time you got the fuck over it dude?

>>8283854
idk from what i saw even some of the niggercattle are gettin pissy
unless they just bought the whole thing for a fuckin animal crossing DLC

>>8283882
Well, we'll just have to wait and see. No idea if they would release subscription figures (I doubt it), but only way I see them fixing this is if they turn out to be abysmal (which, again, I doubt, but let's hope I'm proven wrong).

>>8283874
whos crying?
im calling nintendo faggots cuz they are
if you gave some 12yo a smartphone and the only instructions you gave him was to "download zelda on it" youd prolly end up with a better, more playable product

>>8282368
All i want is to play South park and Quake 2 with good controls.
as much as i liked playing them on the OG one, they fit better with MKB

>>8283656
>tons of fog where it isn't ever supposed to actually be looks better
I don't know why I bother with you tards
seriously fuck you

>>8272656
most emus are under the GPL,that would actually be illegal for nintendo,and shareholders would rather play it safe than risk a lawsuit.

>>8282368
>Sin and Punishment /w M+KB
Literally PERFECT.

>>8279064
PS1 through a PS2 results in interlaced output. Fine if you have a CRT but it’s better for me to run them through a PS1 direct and into ossc

>>8272650
>retroarch

>>8284587
Nigga what. The PS2 is perfectly capable of 240p output.

>>8274003
NINTENDO SUE THIS MAN

>>8283768
Playstation and xbox backwards compatibility is better than that.

>>8283552
>Nintendo is definitely disconnected from its userbase
that's a good thing because consumers don't know what they want.

>>8274003
Based.

>>8284587
>PS2 results in interlaced output
lol wut? PS2 outputs the same modes at the same quality as the PSX if it didn't most games wouldn't even work due to how it was output on the hardware in the first place. What the hell is this schizo anti-ps2 propaganda?

>>8274026
>Worst case scenario I have the perfect controller for emulation.
LMAO

>>8283768
Yup. it was a money decision
>whats the least amount of money we can spend to sell 20 year old games to 10 year old kids.
Thank god the source code is being reverse engineered for a few N64 games so we will eventually get a decent PC port. SM64PLUS is the bar to hit.

>>8285998
Maybe that anon was thinking of the PS3. As far as I know, the PS3 is not capable of 240p output and will scale PSX games to 480i.

>>8274026
Please commit suicide soon

>>8272109
I'm getting Silent Hill HD Collection vibes here

>>8272847
>those fucking lips
jfc

>>8286093
You are correct. As a sidenode, most LCD TVs don't support 240p via YUV/component either. So if you wanted to play ICO or Star Ocean on an actual PS2 that's hooked up via component cables to a semi-modern TV will most likely not work.

>>8272604
BASED

>>8286842
Is pac sonic or tails

>>8274003
He's right. Too bad he's a maskfag.

>>8272109
>pays for an emulator
>gets mad that it's an emulator
Did you get dropped on your head when you were an infant? Don't bother answering because we already know the answer.

Snoyshills out in force. To sum it up for you guys:
>OMG NOOOO THERES THIS ONE SINGLE ROOM THAT DOESNT LOOK RIGHT NOOOOO
>OMG NOOOO THIS LITERAL UNINTENDED GLITCH YOULL NEVER ENCOUNTER IN CASUAL GAMEPLAY DOESNT WORK RIGHT NOOOOOOOOO
>OMG NOOOOOO I DONT KNOW HOW TO REMAP THE CONTROLS AND IM TOO STUPID TO FIGURE IT OUT DESPITE IT BEING RIGHT THERE IN THE OPTIONS OR TOO POOR TO AFFORD THE CONTROLLER I SHOULD BE USING ANYWAY NOOOOOOO
Other than those nothingburgers, it's literally perfect. I highly recommend.

>>8277871
>animefagging

>>8287498
manchild cope
>>>/a/

>>8278496
IIRC Nintendo has worked with M2 before. I believe M2 handled the GBA emulation on Wii U.