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The service is releasing today along the Sega Genesis games.
I'm planning on upgrading my current plan so I can play some N64 multiplayer games online, anyone else?

>> No.8270106

>>8270103
Nope. Only retards pay for roms.

>> No.8270117

>>8270103
>Rip rom from actual cartridge
>Timeshift it to an open source emulator
>No laws broken cause I'm in Canada
You poor, law-abiding Americans, hahaha.

>> No.8270127

No, and I honestly don't see myself buying their next console either. I've enjoyed my Switch but I don't really want to give Nintendo any more money.

>> No.8270129

Why are you paying for roms? The online is going to be tucking shit too considering Nintendo still has no idea how to make it work. Do you really think they’re going to make Mario Kart 64 actually work online when they can barely get their brand new HD one working?

>> No.8270139

>>8270103
I am going to download N64 Online from a shop like I did with NES and SNES online. Once again cfw chads feast for free.

>> No.8270215
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8270215

I'd be ready to play some mario kart 64 online

>> No.8270231

>>8270106
>>8270129
cheap price for 10/10 games, its an easy buy

>> No.8270238

>>8270231
You can do this cool thing called emulation where you don’t pay for anything

>> No.8270250

>>8270238
$50 a year is literally nothing, basically free

>> No.8270257

>>8270231
>its an easy buy
>buy
you aren’t even buying roms, you’re subscribing to roms which is twice as pathetic

>> No.8270290

>>8270238
>>8270257
>$1000 gaming PC to emulate N64 vs. $350 for Switch with N64 expansion

>> No.8270298

>>8270103
What people actually thought about purchasing this

>> No.8270303

>>8270290
I doubt people who whine that switch online is too expensive has $1000 pc's. They are probably third world poor and can barely afford electricity

>> No.8270316

>>8270290
my $150 windows tablet I bought a decade ago could emulate n64 without issue

>> No.8270326

>>8270290
For 1440p 60fps?
Yes
For 480p 20fps(Switch specs)?
A toaster could do it

>> No.8270330

>>8270250
then give it to me because it's basically free

>> No.8270339

>>8270330
no kidding lol. more dollars than sense on that guy.

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8270345

>>8270250
We're not asking what $50 is worth to you, but rather if the Expansion Pass is worth $50.

>> No.8270350

i just wish Nintendo didn't slap that Animal Crossing dlc shit with the service, I would have taken GB/GBA onlin3 over shit for a game I'm really not interested at all.

>> No.8270389

>>8270290
You can emulate N64 on your phone nowadays. A toaster could run it. If you really think you need a super hyper gaming computer that runs at ten gigasharts per second to run Yoshi’s Story then you’re retarded

>> No.8270409

>>8270103
I do not really have a reason to buy the normal subscription to begin with. I'd love to play some N64 MP with my best friend, but it feels like it would be a waste to pay $50 just for that. I've only been playing jrpgs and other single player stuff on my Switch. Might get a month of basic to see how Quake MP fares though.

>> No.8270425

>>8270106
/thread/

>> No.8270438

>>8270103
Nah, I already own a cartridge version of everything on there I'd want to play except for WinBack and Sin and Punishment.

>> No.8270446

I can't wait for all the people i know to rush out and pay for this, rave on about how cool it is for 2 weeks, then drop it and forget all about it just like all those mini's they rushed out to buy that now collect dust.

>> No.8270464

>>8270127
Yeah, the lack of a virtual console really kills my enthusiasm for Nintendo. I'm not a big fan of piracy, but I'm an avid hater of subscription services. I'm never going to pay a subscription service to replay SMB3 or 64. In addition, the Castlevania Anniversary collection really sold me on how much Nintendo was fucking it's loyal fans over. I've been binging Castlevania lately, and all the games are conveniently packaged and cheaply available on sale. Plus, I've tried out games in the franchise I would never have cared to play if they weren't bundled together. In the process, finding new favorite games.

>> No.8270469

WHY CAN'T I BUY THE FUCKING CONTROLLER
GOD DAMN IT

>> No.8270473

>>8270469
Why would you even want to?

>> No.8270476

>>8270446
The minis are nice because of the controllers. It's just really convenient. Having said that, yes most people probably won't play the games much.

>> No.8270558

>>8270469
An already bad controller, now with joycon drift on the stick

>> No.8270579

>>8270250
Good god you are stupid. Give me money instead

>> No.8270585

>>8270117
>follows the law
>makes fun of a strawman for following the law
Besides the fact that you're a retard, 99.9% of people don't care about "the law" when it comes to pirating old games, it's about the convenience and extras (online play with their friends)

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8270596

>>8270127
people have been saying that since the snes, zoom zoom, then a game or two is released that they want to play and they cave

>> No.8270603

>>8270330
>>8270579
literal beggars using /vr/ now

>> No.8270624

>>8270603
I mean I heard there were at least $50 that are worth $0 to that guy; figured i might as well help him out with that

>> No.8270625

>>8270585
>99.9% of people don't care about "the law"
Wrong, there's literally no other reason for why this release is so anticipated. It's easier and free to emulate these games instead, and you can do it on a Walmart entry PC at this point.

>> No.8270629

>>8270596
Ok, but I'm not you and I genuinely don't plan on buying the console

>> No.8270630

>>8270231
>n64 games
>10/10 games
Pick one.

>> No.8270635

>>8270106
>cheap price
if you're a retard who doesn't know how incredibly easy it is to emulate. Anyone with more than 2 brain cells knows an extra 30 dollars for N64 and Genesis is highway robbery.
I'd have to pay $75 for this bullshit since I have the standard family plan for some friends and my niece and nephew, luckily even my 12 year old nephew is smart enough to understand emulation.
>easy buy
It's glorified renting. You pay money to own even less than I do by downloading rom files.

>> No.8270640

>>8270625
>why this release is so anticipated
I’ve heard more people excited about the controller than the service

>> No.8270641

>>8270625
>easier
most normies would rather play it on their switch and with their friends who also don't feel like playing on their pc and don't want to learn how to set up an emulator, even if that's something that's easy for you, the law has nothing to do with it
but you don't have friends and are unable to socialize with norms so you don't know that

>> No.8270642

>>8270629
i don't own it yet, I'll buy it when there an exploit to jailbreak every console

>> No.8270646

>>8270635
whoops, meant for >>8270231

>> No.8270663

>>8270641
Emulators are normie shit, you're delusional if you think otherwise. What, you think people are buying $20 re-releases of old games because they "don't know" about emulators? Are you retarded?

>> No.8270669

>>8270663
>Emulators are normie shit
you’re so far down the rabbit hole you can’t even realize what’s normal anymore, normies are the ones buying full priced rereleases of old games because emulators are scary and complicated and have too many options

>> No.8270687

>>8270603
And giving them your money would be a smarter investment than Switch Online

>> No.8270706

>>8270663
9 times out of 10, reissues of old games are emulated - even on consoles. It's rare that old games get legit ports since it's typically cheaper to emulate.

>> No.8270785

is it out already?

>> No.8270817

>>8270663
These games are literally being emulated you absolute brainlet

>> No.8270818

>>8270663
yeah, the people who buy official rom releases on their switch either don't know about pc emulators, don't want to play on their pc, or don't want to learn how to set them up

>> No.8270987

>>8270635
Not about how easy I can emulate I want to play it on my switch and if you think 30$ is a lot of money you are a fucking loser

>> No.8270995

>>8270596
>oomerposter is a consooming little bitch
No big surprise, really.

>> No.8270996

>No Blast Corps
>No Clay Fighter 63 1/3
>No Gl*v*r
No dice.

>> No.8271004

>>8270987
>Not about how easy I can emulate I want to play it on my switch
You can do that for free too.
>if you think 30$ is a lot of money
paying $30 for something I can already do for free is not only a lot of money, but a complete waste of money.

And the $ goes before the number, ESL tard.

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8271007

>Not about how easy I can emulate I want to play it on my switch and if you think 30$ is a lot of money you are a fucking loser

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8271012

>>8270231
>>>8270106
>>>8270129
>cheap price for 10/10 games, its an easy buy

>> No.8271025

nintendo is about to make oodles of money off of selling easily available roms. this defeats any argument that piracy hurts video games.

>> No.8271031

>>8270103
You pay for the convenience of not having to plug in other bullshit to play Ocarina. If you have a convenient setup to play the 64 games you want, that’s great. If not, it’s what - 50 dollars a year? I spend that on accident all the time.

>> No.8271051

>>8271031
Don't even know why anyone would want to go back to N64 Ocarina after the 3DS version came out outside of nostalgia. It's like trying to go back to Pokemon Red and Blue after FireRed and LeafGreen came out.
After the smooth experience of having access to all the important inventory items from the touch screen, I never want to go back.

>> No.8271057

>>8270995
>no rebuttal

>> No.8271058

>>8271051
I don't even like FRLG either, but playing Yellow and using it for the printer and Stadium is fun. Other than that, Crystal all day.

>> No.8271062 [DELETED] 

>>8271007
>>8271012
>nintendo haters are wojack posters
pathetic incels

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8271068

>>8271062
>nincel gets triggered by wojaks
pathetic nincel

>> No.8271071

why is there so much discourse about this?

if you dont want it, just dont buy it. it's so easy to emulate these games. no one is forcing anyone to pay for these. you don't have to buy the expansion pack if you dont want to.

>> No.8271076

>>8271051
>no mew glitch
FRLG is shit

>> No.8271080 [DELETED] 

>>8271068
Sorry but you will never be the popular kid with lots of friends gathered around the N64 with 4 splitscreen multiplayer.

>> No.8271081

>>8271076
Mew has an actual event in FRLG though. You can activate a cheat to give you an event only item to go to an island with him on it.

>> No.8271095

>>8270669
>>8270706
>>8270817
>>8270818
Emulators aren't rocket science, I was emulating in 2004 at the age of ten and it was the easiest thing even back then. People just want the prestige of playing an "official" solution.

>> No.8271098

>>8270389
>playing ported n64 roms on a touchscreen controller
vs
>using an actual joystick and still having portability
you are poor

>> No.8271107

>>8271004
Do i want to spend 2 hours installing android on to my switch in order to play roms or is 2 hours of my time actually more valuable than £35?
I think you are admitting your time is worthless.

>> No.8271113

>>8271107
>2 hours installing android on to my switch in order to play roms
>this is what bootlicker retards actually believe
o i am laffin

>> No.8271115

>>8271113
just let him pay. no point in debating these people who are too dumb to use emulators

>> No.8271160

https://clips.twitch.tv/CulturedOriginalMeatloafWoofer-tGzcmPG9sRuDsZX5

>> No.8271183

https://clips.twitch.tv/TenuousFastRatBibleThump-l_53W3uYrd9Y5ipe

>> No.8271190

>>8270117
You sure packed a lot of stupid into that post

>> No.8271290

>>8270996
What does that have to do with the dice though?

>> No.8271306

apparently OoT is severely fucked up with graphical glitches and tons of crashing issues (though the later seem more associated with speedrun tricks).

>> No.8271337

>>8271160
>>8271183
These glitches do crash the game on the real N64 hardware. They only don't on older emulators.

>> No.8271348

>>8271160
>>8271183
$50

>> No.8271349

>>8270129
You're not paying for roms with these services. You're paying a monthly service fee to use their emulator.

>> No.8271352

>>8270469
To stop scalping.

>> No.8271371 [SPOILER] 
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8271371

>tfw you're playing Super Mario on a poorly-coded Nintendo 64 emulator

>> No.8271372

I just want to see a teardown of the n64 controller

>> No.8271375

Retroarch wins again

>> No.8271378

>>8271372
>I just want to see a teardown of the n64 controller
Me too!

>> No.8271384

>>8271372
Soon. They have been shipped out.

>> No.8271393

>>8271384
No they haven't you liar

>> No.8271560

>>8271371
BAWINGHOO

>> No.8271613

>>8271393
Some Japanese people already have them.

>> No.8271623
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>> No.8271634

>>8271623
I hope that is not your picture

>> No.8271638

>>8271634
Found it online. Turns out they still don't enable Controller Pak support, which means no ghosts in Mario Kart 64 and you can't even save without save states in WinBack.

>> No.8271643

>>8271638
rip

>> No.8271651

>>8271638
>cant save in winback unless you use savestates
that's so stupid, what's with Nintendo never implemententing controller pak support on their emulators? wii and wii u's VC also didn't cpak support.

>> No.8271653

wow that's a pretty major fuckup, honestly. you think they're gonna... they're not gonna patch that.

>> No.8271662

Holy shit what a bunch of retards

>> No.8271741

>>8271653
wasn't nes/snes online also broken at launch?

>> No.8271742

>>8271653
They aren't gonna patch it anon.
The switch is just that weak of a system that it can't run Nintendo 64 games. It's kind of pathetic

>> No.8271748

>>8271741
if it was I didn't hear about it. that's pretty funny. in what way could an NES or SNES emulator possibly be broken on a modern console

>> No.8271756

Hows the online though

>> No.8271759

>>8271756
alright for 2 or 3 players
buggy if you're playing with 4 people
unplayable with wifi shitters

>> No.8271761
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8271761

>playing games online
>playing N64 games online instead of couch-multiplayer
Hey. HEY! x cuse me wtf ur u doin?

>> No.8271768

>>8271742
The Switch is more powerful than the PC I had in 2005 that could run N64 emulators fine.

>> No.8271780

>>8271742
Bullshit. The Switch can run Mupen64Plus just fine.

>> No.8271785

>>8270103
I just would like for any early adopters to tell whether the online play for 64 games is trash or not.

>> No.8271793

will it take 6 months for Nintendo to add the other games they teased at both directs?

>> No.8271795

>>8270250
God you must be shit at finances, mouthbreather.

>> No.8271814

>>8271651
Because they're lazy and you're going to give them your money anyway

>> No.8271991

>>8271098
Where did I say that’s what I use? Of course I don’t emulate on my phone because I’m not an idiot. I’m saying you CAN do that because N64 emulation has become so easy that any device can work it out. Oh, and you can get controllers for your phone anyway so the “you still have portability with a controller!” Argument goes straight out the window. Stop sucking Nintendo’s dick

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8272001

>>8271371
>you just payed $60 for that same emulator except it’s Nintendo approved

>> No.8272010

Online Star Fox sounds cool, but it’s not enough to pay the kind of money.

But get Goldeneye and Perfect Dark with online play and I’m in

>> No.8272023

>>8271785
See >>8271759

>> No.8272026

>>8271371
only a autistic nerd like sheldon would do that

>> No.8272029

>>8272001
these kinds of posts suck so much

>> No.8272046

>>8272001
this post will be deleted

>> No.8272064

>>8272010
Nintendo will NEVER re-release Goldeneye and Perfect Dark

>> No.8272264

Apparently the games are riddled with input lag and screen tearing, and the online is as terrible as expected from Nintendo. Hope it was worth those $50!

>> No.8272265

>>8270106
This.

>> No.8272268

>>8272010
the online is garage and wouldn't be fun even with great games to support it. Years of input lag and constant stuttering

>> No.8272280

>>8272010
yeah, about online play...
https://twitter.com/KRoolKountry/status/1452816288103890944?t=BsiywsMTiJGxaaqGkQ4VmA&s=19

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8272308

>>8272280
WWEELLCCOOMMEE TTOO MMAARRIIOO KKAARRTT

>> No.8272345

>>8271761
This, four controllers and Mario party is what the console is for.

>> No.8272353

I can’t believe Nintendo has already put every N64 game on the service already.

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>> No.8272703

>>8272280
lol that's what you get for paying for roms. idiots.

>> No.8272716

>>8272026
Well, you gotta give it to the writers, they picked the best platform for the joke to make sense, as literally all the N64 emulators available when that episode aired were poorly coded.

>> No.8272724

>>8270250
>I'd rather spend money than getting it for free

>> No.8272813

Anyone knows if the N64 controller already connects with the 8bit doh retro receivers?

>> No.8273071

i keep hearing about horrible input lag but I don't feel anything like that while playing shit like Mario, Kart64 or Starfox, OoT so far is the only game I think is completely unplayable though.

>> No.8273091
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8273091

So, apparently the NSO has problems that emulators in the early 2000s had

>> No.8273104

>>8273091
Yeah, Nintendo really phoned it in for this one, which is especially telling given the GC and VC releases did not have these problems. No quality control went into this at all.

>> No.8273115

>>8273104
yeah, this makes me even more pissed about the whole thing. I (foolishly) expected 5$ more or some shit, but at this price? Oooof
The original price is good enough for a "I barely use the service but it's cheap enough to forget about it" (also save backups). But this increase is too much, on top of the Animal Crossing DLC dilemma that makes this even worse. It might be worth it for the first year because of that, but after? Really? Then you can also buy it separately, but if they add stuff that makes it worth it later, won't you feel ripped off?
That's stupid. Especially so since rumours are saying that the massive increase is because of Sega Genesis games

>> No.8273121

But they are rented games, at the end of the day Nintendo must pay for those that are not their property. The case of Banjo Kazooie, who knows how long he will be available. The one who is affected is the user. If it were like the Wii U or Wii where the games are yours, and you can play them until the console explodes, it would be very different.

>> No.8273123

>>8273115
It's just indicative of how bad things have gotten, I guess. I'm not one to romanticize Nintendo or any other company and argue that they were once noble or honorable and have fallen from grace due to greed, because a lot of that is crap once you really examine what used to go on back in the day, but something about the lack of quality control in releases like these tells me something else had changed.

It will be telling if the bad rap this is getting will change anything. Only way I could see them patching this shit is if results in them not hitting the expected subscription targets, I guess.

>> No.8273136

>>8273071
how is it possible OoT is unplayable? That is THE GAME to get working on an emulator

>> No.8273141

>>8272703
That's the best part, they aren't even paying for roms, they're renting them.

>> No.8273146

If you have a good computer, try M64P emulator, is a Mupen64 with the pararell plugin and works very nice

>> No.8273158

>>8273121
They're making gang busters off of the Switch. They can easily afford to pay whatever licensing fees there are for 30 year old Genesis games and 20 year old N64 games.

>> No.8273197

>>8270558
This. Don't bother just remap the controls

>> No.8273205

>>8270103
If they're going to put this much effort into allowing past games being played on one system then maybe playstation needs to catch up and do the same?

>> No.8273405

Yep, I bought it.
The problems don't seem to be even noticable for casual play and will probably be patched in a month.

>> No.8273423

>>8271107
>2 hours
Lmao this retard

>> No.8273431

>>8273115
I doubt the Genesis games have anything to do with it. I don't seem to remember them having been more expensive than other 16-but games on the Wii Shop Channel

>> No.8273459

>>8273197
Funny thing is, you can’t. There’s no way to remap the controls they give you which is especially funny because B and A are switched and the Up and left c button are mapped to Y and X

>> No.8273474

>>8270250
$50 is indeed not that much money, but I also don't want to pay a yearly fee for a service that is REALLY bad.

>> No.8273684

Ok, alright, about the bad emulation. I really don't understand. Didn't their Wii and Wii U emulator get it right? Did Nintendo made yet again another fucking emulator? Why wouldn't they just make 1 good fucking emulator and port it over? How does they just keep stumbling with this part? Anyone would know why?

>> No.8273778

>>8273684
>Why wouldn't they just make 1 good fucking emulator and port it over?
most probably the wii emulator is optimized for powerpc in assembly and the wii u emulator most likely is an enhancement of the wii one.
there are no nintendo made n64 emulators for arm based consoles and you can't port assembly code to another architecture. so they were "forced" to start from scratch.
they could have used an opensource solution like mupen as a base, but as we are talking about nintendo, they are too prideful for that and would be forced to share the modifications to the code.

>> No.8273836

summary: don't buy this garbage

emulation is severely inaccurate, from what I've seen it reminds me of the PS classic.

granted if you're a normie you probably don't care but still keep in mind that you won't be getting close to an original experience here

Main problems would be input lag, audio problems, important effects missing, incorrect texture mapping (this surprisingly matters more than you may think http://filthypants.blogspot.com/2014/12/n64-3-point-texture-filtering-in.html?m=1))

etc etc

personally i'd say the best you can do is an original console on an old TV, if you're not a purist like me though GlideN64 or Retroarch will do you perfectly fine when configured correctly

the screenshots were enough for me to consider this inexcusable. mid 2000s plugins which aren't even that good in the first place replicate it far better which isn't saying much

>> No.8273850

Are zoomer fags going to pretend to like all of my favorite genesis games now? Fuck this fag world

>> No.8273865

>>8273459
You can from the switch system settings

>> No.8273868

>>8273850
Why are you gatekeeping? It's good for people to like good things, simple as

>> No.8273872

>>8273865
good lookin out

>> No.8273930

>>8273868
That anon has nothing to worry about since the genesis didn't have any good games

>> No.8273931

>>8273930
At least it has games, compared to the N64 which has… hmm… uh, I can’t think of any! Zero games!

>> No.8273936

>>8273930
shadow dancer is better than your favorite game

>> No.8273961

>>8273936
Is shadow dancer the best Shinobi game overall? People tend to point to either Revenge or 3 but I think Shadow Dancer has a good blend of the arcade game, the action of 3 and the platform exploration of Revenge. truly the highest quality of ninja video game

>> No.8273967

>>8273930
>>8273931
you guys are in your 30s

>> No.8273986

>>8273930
toy story was fun
can't forget about the SOULFUL ms pac man port aka the best ms pac man port

>> No.8274190

If games don't have slowdown that means it might cause desync issues, I think MK64's timer doesn't work properly because of this (this means you get way different times to the ones you get on OG console) and if DK64 gets added someday then there's gonna be the same problems that plagued the WiiU VC version.

>> No.8274196

Has anyone tested the N64 controller on PC?

>> No.8274197
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8274197

>>8273967

>> No.8274957

someone datamined 38 titles for the N64 app

>> No.8275037

>>8270290
But I already have a PC to play my PC games on ultra at 144hz.
protip: my 4500$ PC was free just by farming at night :) now it just pays all my electricity.

>> No.8275241

if you're gonna play sin and punishment on this, use the 3rd controller config (the one that uses ZL and R to strafe).

>> No.8275270

KEK I knew it, Nintendo being Nintendo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqyxWQKVgkE

>> No.8275337

Gotta love how the dumb fucks buying into this scam defend it by saying
>Well at least it's cheaper than paying $200+ for a single cart on real hardware!
That shows you're willing to play it on a non-N64 system, so you're not an OG hardware + set up stickler. So why not emulate it for free on any computer, phone and tablet from within the past 10 years for better results?
Is it just about giving Nintendo your money?

>> No.8275392
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>>8275337
It's catered to actual retards who don't even know how to download a rom file

>> No.8275395

>>8273123
Nintendo california is destroying the company.

>> No.8275424

>>8275270
>The re-released controllers are worse build quality
>The emulated games are emulated terribly compered to just using a normal emulator
>And they're still charging this much extra with Online already for it
Them being the richest company in Japan has really given them a big head. They can do whatever they want and people/scalpers will buy it.

>> No.8275432

>>8275270
What's this bullshit about potentiometers being worse than optical sensors? Potentiometers have higher precision and can determine the actual position of the stick at all times while the optical sensor can't(important for calibrating).

>> No.8275469

>>8275424
>Them being the richest company in Japan has really given them a big head.
They aren't even in the first 50, with the number one Toyota being 30 times larger in revenue. Also sony is 10th

>> No.8275503

>>8275432
Potentiometers have higher sensitivity but that doesn't directly translate to higher precision. The meme that's been spread for decades about the N64 having "one of the most accurate analog sticks ever" comes directly from the fact that it's less sensitive than potentiometer sticks. When the stick is less sensitive and doesn't meet 100%+ values in any direction, you directly have more control over lesser values. The gradient isn't as steep.

>> No.8275518

>>8271004
You literally can't do it for free retard half of the switches can't even be hacked. Suck one. No ones going to fucking micro solder a chip that's hard to find either

>> No.8275528

>>8270316
Sounds like a fun way to play n64 man. Playing Mario on a tablet on my lap with a shitty Bluetooth controller like a black 12 year old.

>> No.8275563

>>8275503
A potentiometer output can be assigned to a any profile you like. You can easily control dead zone size and ranges etc via software. That's the only reason trash like the Switch sticks can be salvaged by calibration. There is no fixing a optical stick like that.

>> No.8275592

>>8275563
I'm not disagreeing with you, I already know this. I'm just saying this is why optical sensors have the reputation they do. Out of the box potentiometers don't feel as precise in practice because of the higher sensitivity, and most consoles aren't going to give you options to adjust that.

>> No.8275619

>>8270303
My PC cost like 2k and the switch online stuff is still too expensive. any paid console online service is too much.

>>8275528
isn't that what a switch is?

>> No.8275647

>>8275432
Vile rumors spread by knowledgeable engineers based on facts and science. Nothing more.

>> No.8275671

>>8275647
Optical sensors were outdated in 80s

>> No.8275680

>fuck yeah, online
>oh it’s only against friends, not public

NINTENDOOOOOOO

>> No.8275691
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>>8275680
>online
>ridiculous price tag
>no Smash 64 at launch
Ninty are mentally handicapped
Yes I know it will have terrible netcode and be basically unplayable outside of super casual play, they still should have had it at launch

>> No.8275712

>>8275691
I don't know if Smash 64 will even come. They didn't put it on the Wii U VC, even though it was on the Wii.

>> No.8275754

>>8270103
>N64 controller still hasn't arrived
>still can't buy the Mega Drive one

Bravo, Nintendo

>> No.8275760

>>8270103
Jus gunna emulate. Thanks tho

>> No.8275776
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8275776

why do nintendo 64 dorks resistive wipers "optical?" you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. There's nothing optical about this. It rotates a conductive piece of metal along a resistive track and measures resistance and sends its value out. There's no fucking optics involved. Fucking idiots you don't know a god damn thing about controllers or electronics. Stop talking about shit you know nothing about.

>> No.8275778

>>8275776
that's why it's called an analog stick, because the input is measured by physical, analog movement rather than digital measurements. it's also why the N64 stick is one of the most accurate sticks ever made (when it hasn't been ground into dust).

>> No.8275782

>>8275778
>it's also why the N64 stick is one of the most accurate sticks ever made
another commonly repeated n64 dork lie shut the fuck up it was an early attempt at nintendo avoiding paying ALPS Alpine for a pointer

>> No.8275809
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8275809

>>8275776
Wrong. This the principle on which a original N64 analog stick operates.

>> No.8275814

>>8275776
What you posted is how a third party or reproduction stick works(including the official n64 controller sold with the service)

>> No.8275816

>>8275671
>optical sensors were outdated in decades before i born

>>8275776
>retarded poster.jpg

>> No.8275829

>>8271115
no one's stopping him. he's free to be a pay pig, as we are to laugh at him.

>> No.8275831

>>8271371
>emulating SM64 on a keyboard
Didn't know Shellder was a turbo chad.

>> No.8275837

>no Paper Mario
>no Banjo
>no Mega Man 64 or Resident Evil 2
>no Pokemon Puzzle League
>no Mario Party 3
>no F-Zero X
>no Smash
I honestly don't think these were outside the realm of possibility, this current lineup is so lacking

>> No.8275845

>>8272503
Soul.

>> No.8275850

>>8273850
Watch out anon, I heard yoombers pretend to like breathing as well.

>> No.8275854

>>8275837
Paper Mario and Banjo are coming, not saying these will make it worth it but those are announced

>> No.8275857

>>8275850
This guy's going to hate when Gen Alpha finds their retro games and they look in the mirror and realize he doesn't matter anymore

>> No.8275860

>>8275432
>being this wrong and gay
Potentiometers are overly sensitive and prone to wearing out. They're shit. Optical sensors are superior in every way.

>> No.8275893

>>8275809
post the inside of an n64 joy stick and identify all the same parts thanks

>> No.8275941
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8275941

>>8275893
Here's the original 64 joysitick assembly. Try to identify your ""restive wiper"" between the two non-conductive plastic gears you mong. It's the same tech that's used in a mouse for the last 50 years.

>> No.8275958

>>8273778
It's not about pride, it's about the facy that they don't want to acknowledge any unauthorized software because it's against their policy, and their policy exists because unauthorized software hurts their bottom line and goes anywhere from being a legal gray area to illegal which a legitimate company doesn't want to have anything to do with.

>> No.8275965

>>8275958
Sorry, what I should've said is that they don't want to help any unauthorized software in any way for the reasons I mentioned. Contributing code is helping them.

>> No.8275968

>>8275776
Imagine being this retarded.

>> No.8276340

>>8270117
Timeshift was upheald by the SCOTUS

>> No.8276343

Does anyone know if Europe gets pal roms?

>> No.8276352

>>8276343
Europe getting Roms that ran at correct speed finally would be the only reason for anyone to do up for this gook shit

>> No.8276367

>>8276352
Euros get what they deserve, should be 50fps roms forever and ever

>> No.8276401

>>8276343
You can chose the region. You can play PAL, US and JP versions of every title.

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>>8275941
You forgot to show anything useful on the pcb and seem confused about the existence of modern analog sticks

>> No.8276490

>>8276424
So where is the resistive wiper? All I see is a LED and a sensor and on the picture I posted you can clearly see holes for it i.e a standard opto-mechanical setup. There is ZERO resistive wipers used in the workings of the joystick. Stop pretending you know anything you are talking about as clearly have don't.

>> No.8276535

>>8276490
It's in the new n64 controller

>> No.8276551

>>8276535
All I said a n64 uses a opto(optical)-mechanical setup to which you in your infinite wisdom claimed doesn't exist in the first place.
>why do nintendo 64 dorks resistive wipers "optical?"
Yes the nintendo 64 uses a optical analog stick there is NOTHING you shown to disprove this. So either SHOW ME THE RESISITVE WIPER or just shut up kid.

>> No.8276568

>>8276551
Here it is for the 3rd time: >>8275776

>> No.8276576

>>8276568
And how does this prove that the original n64 stick used a opto-mechanical setup? Did you even read what you are responding to?
>>8275809
>This the principle on which a original N64 analog stick operates.
>original
How retarded are you?

>> No.8276581

>>8276576
>prove
disprove

>> No.8276591

lol imagine being this upset over the way an analog stick works

>> No.8276598

>>8276568
This proves nothing show us on the original stick assembly the resistive wipers. You said a optic joystick wasn't a thing.

>> No.8276606

>>8276576
The original n64 stick used an ir led and gear spokes to determine how far it is being pushed. The new one uses resistive wipers like all modern analog sticks

>> No.8276617

>>8270469
show me your third hand

>> No.8276626

>>8276606
Who cares about zommer sticks? This was always about the original.

>> No.8276820

>people expected some zero-effort shit
>ninty even disappointed that expectation
LMAO wow.

>> No.8277749

>>8276424
>>8276535
>>8276568
>copious cope
Keep digging that hole little aspie. The power of autism compels you.

>> No.8277960

>>8275837
Capcom wants you to forget about the classic resident evil.

>> No.8278029

>>8271031
the thing is they don't deserve those 50 dollars, this service is a insult

>> No.8279208

https://youtu.be/HK_-UHXPl2U

>> No.8279770

>>8276820
>expected zero-effort shit
i think most people were expecting a n64 emulator at least better than Pj64 1.6

>> No.8279937

>>8270117
imagine caring about broken laws that you could never be prosecuted for.
cuck