/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8271967
based

>>8271967
Based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvfFIfbEHHI

>>8271967
Which is the best game In the series and which have been fully translated? Been wanting to play these games for a while

Also based

>>8272009
This is the best game, most are untranslated but can’t touch it anyway. Most of them are difficult isometric brawler type rpg-lites

>>8271967
None of these games are good. Konami's top designers stayed in castlevania after treasure was created.

>>8272009
Goemon's Great Adventure, followed by this one (though recommended to play this one before GGA). For the SNES ones, it's (1:) Princess Yuki > 2: McGuinness > (4:) Twinkling Journey (Kirakira Dochu) > 3: Jurokobei Shishi. Making my way through the first PS one, Akogingu, but it's really mediocre so far and doesn't feel like the N64 and SNES ones, thematically speaking. Two other PS1 Goemons are supposed to be really good: New Age and Oedo Daikaiten (I'm really looking forward to the latter, in particular). Can't say much about the Game Boy ones, other than Dynamites on GBC is well-loved and the one called "Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon" for Game Boy is well-hated.

>>8272037
>>8272197
Thanks Anons. I’ll start with the SNES games and move on up from there

>>8272197
N64 ones are trash. Best is Legend of the Mystical Ninja on SNES

>>8271967
They're all worth playing, just pure fun in platforming or action.

>>8271967
I've been saying this for years

>>8272276
I should correct myself, while most are unofficially translated, many or most have fan translations, >>8272197 seems more knowledgable than me on which are worth trying beyond n64. Can’t understand the anon saying both n64 games are trash however

Based Goemon the tranny slayer

>>8272391
Mystical Ninja Starting Goemon sucks because most of the game is spent walking slowly through big empty areas.
Goemons Great Adventure sucks because you have to do a bunch of shit sidequests to earn entry passes.
The SNES games are better.

>>8272402
Shit opinion, as expected of a soulless ADHD zoomer.

>>8272402
Not a fan of liminal spaces, are you?

>>8271967
>only 5 dungeons
>better than OoT
Lmao. Also camera sucks and there's too many gimmick robot fights. MNSG is shit and GGA is much better, though still one of the worst side-scrolling Goemon games compared to his SNES and Playstation 2D platformers.

Does anybody like Goemon Gaiden for fanicom?

>>8272590
generally they're bad level design

>>8271967
Akogingu on the Playstation X is the superiour non-linear Goemon game.

>>8272805
SOUL

>>8272756
>quality > quantity
One of many reasons why Majora's Mask also beats OOT. The camera does suck though, however the boss fights are fun.

>>8272904
Majora's Mask is overrated as hell, and half the dungeons are crap (Snow Tower and Great Bay). People only pretend to like that one because it has muh deep side-quests.

>>8272920
Snow tower is one of my favorite dungeons ;_; fuck you

Australia-kun trying to shitpost goemon threads and everyone ignoring him is really great, based goemon fans.

>>8272756
>camera sucks
Welcome to 5th-gen 3D games

>>8271967
did that rom ever get fixed? i have the game, but don't have a tv right now

Bump for that based gooey lad

>>8271967
>not that it's much of an achievement
You contrarian fucks drive me crazy.

PALASIMAAAAA!!!!!
I remember enjoying this game when i was like 11 years old. I wanted rpgs and this was before i realized n64 was going to suck mega cock in that department. I dont think i could stomach this game if i tried it today.

>>8272292
Fair enough if you don't like the (extremely soulful and fun) open-world aspects of the N64 ones, even though GGA has some of the most difficult and filtering action segments in the series, but you're defrauding yourself if you're playing Legend of the Mystical Ninja and not rather playing the new DDStranslation of Goemon 1 on SNES

>>8272276
That's not a bad idea, really, since the N64 ones reference a lot of the story and characters from the 4 SNES games.

>>8272805
MNSG does it better than Ocarina, having many more enemies to fight and secrets to find throughout the landscapes, same as in Goemon 3. Ocarina was a step down from Link's Awakening and even ALttP on this regard, but it has lots of other strong points, obviously.

>>8275204
Mystical Ninja's overworld also has more interesting use of space and verticality, which you can sort of see from this screenshot >>8272590 (there are better examples, but I can't find any screenshots online). Hyrule Field is lame because it's completely flat.
This video also gives a sense of the verticality : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltCvaMPoyhc

>>8275204
Mystical Ninja's overworld also has more interesting use of space and verticality, which you can sort of see from this screenshot >>8272590 (there are better examples, but I can't find any screenshots online). This video gives a sense of the verticality as well : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltCvaMPoyhc . Hyrule Field is lame because it's completely flat.

The overworld tracks are bangers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-t9y0Hcp5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnLaMT43buE
I love the quiet ambience at times too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKgx5Zmf5LQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sCs0eM-DUs

These games are fucking awesome. I really liked the second NES one as confusing as it could get, the humor, presentation and music are top notch, the later specially, it's by Michiru Yamane!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysITcVPNnRY

SNES 1 and 2 have been great too, can't wait to try 3 4 and the N64 ones, heard good things about all of them. 3 looks pretty different though, does it shift too hard into another direction or is it just replacing the perspective in the "town" levels with a top down one?

>>8272009
>Which is the best game In the series
Mystical Ninja on SNES

>>8275303
I think you nailed it, anon. Well said. Also, I don't know why that guy rearranged Yamato, as it's already perfect song.

>>8275338
>is it just replacing the perspective in the "town" levels with a top down one?
This, plus introduces Lucky Cat dolls as heart container pieces (get them all for the best ending, but save getting one to see the regular ending first).

>>8275303

Ocarina is much better than that. What a joke

>>8272763
Haven't gotten top far in it, yet, but it feels pretty standard NES RPG, frankly. Introduces Yae and some other characters, though, so worth playing through eventually.

>>8275303
Soulless remix

>>8275985
Not really

>>8275998
100%. this is just empty space with absolutely nothing interesting. Ocarina and Majora are not like that.

>>8276005
You're retarded and haven't played the game if you don't realize there are NPCs to talk to and enemies to kill in all the exploration areas. There are a handful of areas that are empty for atmosphere, Yamato is one of them, not the usual instance of it.

>>8276005
I think your nostalgia is playing tricks on you

>>8276013
Nothing atmospheric about this lame area. Even the empty areas in zelda were better

I like both Goemon and Zelda games and you idiots can't stop me!

>>8276037
Based great games enjoyer

>Majora's Mask > Mystical Ninja >> Ocarina of Time.
I never played an N64 game until several years ago, so I have no nostalgia bias. I assume anyone that has OoT as one of their favorite games is either a conformist normalfag or a nostalgia fag.

>>8276034
Did you even play it? The atmosphere is the sunset with the awesome music, and it's empty because the villagers haven't been traveling down that road because of all the dragon kidnappings or whatever. The areas that are empty are usually because in the context of the story the villagers are all hiding inside their town or Goemon and crew have stepped into an abandoned region. There are a bunch of other exploration zones that are full of life, with coffee shops you can talk to NPCs in, secrets hidden around the corners, enemies to kill, and so on. There's far more of those areas in the game, the liminal spaces are the minority and they usually have an explanation for being like that, and yes Yamato is more exciting than hyrule field (though there's nothing wrong with Hyrule Field either)

>>8271967
nice textures for an N64 game

>>8272805
That's why I hate Serious Sam 1 and 2. Huge vast tracks of open land for fucking nothing

>>8271967
No it's not lmao

And I own and love this game.

>>8280194
It's subjective, bro.

>>8271967
This game's OST is fantastic, easily one of my favourites of all time.
https://youtu.be/jIoMvYSYfWw