/vr/ - Retro Games

In the USA? Big enough for kids to print out pictures of buu saga and GT characters, bring them to school, and make up total bullshit headcanon about "super sonic gohanks and his son go-ten" while Toonami was barely finishing up the Frieza Saga.

Virtually nothing on games for a while outside of kids learning to emulate SFC DBZ games for the first time

Why do you keep making this thread? We've already told you.

DB wasn't well known in the states until the mid 90s but was a huge explosion once it was popular.

>>8258382

DB is bad because... black people? I don't know if this is the nintendo dude or the /pol/ dude

>>8258382
Nobody had ever heard of the shit until it got a spot on Toonami in 1998 and it instantly went supernova

>>8258382
Never had any friends? Or just zoomer?

In some european countries, dbz was, hyper popular since late 80s/early 90s

dbz was getting record ratings for cn in 2000, the best ratings they had ever had

>>8260081
And it was relatively very late into the bandwagon compared to the rest of the world

>>8258549
I had, watching Saban's original dub in the early morning before the school bus arrived and wondering what the fuck this was.

>>8258382
Sailor Moon was bigger in germoney

>>8258416
>DB wasn't well known in the states until the mid 90s

I Grew up in Canada, and Dragon Ball Z became big here in 1997ish. I think YTV started airing the Oceans dub in 96 or so? And even then, it took a little while for the show to catch on, but it did through after school reruns.

>>8261689
>Dragon Ball Z became big here in 1997ish. I think YTV started airing the Oceans dub in 96 or so? And even then, it took a little while for the show to catch on, but it did through after school reruns.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHsME2Wcwy4

Yeah, I was right. But it wasnt an instant hit in Canada. It certainly had enough viewers on its first run on YTV, But I do remember it being more popular on repeat airings, when they made it all the way up to the Buu Saga.

Why's it so disproportionately popular among african-americans and mexicans? Just an observation I've made.

>>8261689

I was mistaken, the original Dragon Ball aired in 1996 on YTV, but Dragon Ball Z aired in 1997. Dragon Ball Z did get more popular through later airings. Right around the time they were airing the Buu saga stuff.

>>8261723
Not only Mexicans, but Latin Americans. Also countries like Spain, where they had the show dubbed in not only Spanish, but Galician, Catalan, Valencian, and Basque on local channels. Italy used to show the original, Z, and GT start to finish. Portugal gave it a really weird dub that only made it even more popular outside the target audience. And don't forget the French, they were getting a few Dragon Ball games translated in French due to demand from fans.

>>8261723
Well for starters, Piccolo/Kami is sort of like Yakub,

>>8261745
It looks like Latin America got a dub of original Dragon Ball before the US did if I'm not mistaken

Which 90s? Dragon Ball didn't come to America until 1998. It didn't take long to get popular, but prior to that nobody but turbo weebs knew or cared about it.

>>8258416
>DB wasn't well known in the states until the mid 90s
Nobody knew that shit in the U.S. in the 90's, it didn't air there until the early 00's.

YTV first Aired Dragon Ball Z in 1997, they used the Oceans Group dub that was recorded in Vancouver. This is the intro that I am most familiar with:
https://youtu.be/xAOCnSKz-x8?t=2

And then, later, they would mix the Oceans Dub with the Funimation dub (US?) . So sometimes I would see this intro:
https://youtu.be/R4vjJrGeh1c

>>8261756
Indeed! It used the same voicecast as Dragon Ball proper although it had weird changes like Krillin being renamed Cachito.
Zero and the Magic Dragon failed in the US but performed well enough in south American stations for Intertrack Mexico to seek the rights of the original Japanese version using the middleman company Cloverway which previously was the middleman to get Saint Seiya

It is funny, because I remember getting Super Sonic in Sonic 2, back in 1993, but I never knew about the Super Saiyan thing until like 1999. And even then, the first episode where Goku goes Super Saiyan didn't air in the west until like 2000. The show would always tease Goku going Super Saiyan in the opening credits. So you knew it was coming.

>>8262156
>Goku goes Super Saiyan didn't air in the west until like 2000
I know this is pedantic, but it always bugs me they say DBZ wasn't a thing in the west until the 00's, when most of Europe and all of LatAm around 1995 had already aired all of DB and DBZ, going through the Baby saga of DBGT by the time the US just began airing DBZ in 1998 (the Ocean dub)

>>8262191
>I know this is pedantic, but it always bugs me they say DBZ wasn't a thing in the west until the 00's, when most of Europe and all of LatAm around 1995 had already aired all of DB and DBZ, going through the Baby saga of DBGT by the time the US just began airing DBZ in 1998 (the Ocean dub)

I looked this up. The episode where Goku goes Super Sayian aired October 1999 in Canada. Dragon ball Z first aired here in Canada in 1997.

>>8261745
>Italy used to show the original, Z, and GT start to finish
I find it funny that this was true for most anime here; anime was for some reason a constant pick for kids programs in Italian television since the late 70s, while most Nickelodeon/CN/Disney Channel etc. shows that were popular in America came here through Sky Italia, which was less accessible, so Grendizer and Kid Muscle are way more recognizable characters than, say, the Rugrats and Jenny Wakeman.
I'd say that Lupin the 3rd, Goku and Detective Conan are probably the most recognizable anime characters by pretty much every generation here, in that order. Ash Ketchum and Sailor Moon also count

>>8262217
And then some phony psychiatrist fucked everything for everyone claiming Sailor Moon made boys gay and the mangaka banned Italy from ever getting anything Sailor Moon ever again, no?

>>8261756
Zero and the Magic Dragon was a censored english dub produced by Harmony Gold (Robotech) who performed incredibly bad under a test regional audience in the US and that's why that dub only lasts a few episodes.

>>8262191
Germany got og in the late 90s and Z in 2001. GT started way later in 2007.
funny how this 80s property was the biggest thing of the 2000s.

If you read the import section of game magazines in the early 90s, you were aware of Dragonball games for SFC and PS1 whether you bought them or not. But DB exploded in popularity in the late 90s, along with Pokemon, Sailor Moon, FF7 and other Japanese stuff

Also, the Hadouken in Street Fighter is a DB reference (also a Space Battleship Yamato reference, but the Hadouken pose is from DB), so Sonic 2 wasn't the first DB reference in a popular US game

>>8262226
I didn't knew this, but I had a sinking feeling Germany got it late too. It feels like germanic and anglo speaking countries are much more strict about what's appropiate for children while romance/latin languages are more "ah who gives a fuck, it's just cartoons".

And that's how Ghost Sweeper Mikami and Ranma 1/2 gave me a sexual awakening at age 5.

>>8261723
dude DBZ is popular with all kind of people in general.
you just notice the blacks and mexicans more because you're american and your country is full of those kind of people.

>>8260090
>in the early morning before the school bus arrived and wondering what the fuck this was.
Same. It was on at like 5:30 during the week. Caught it on TV by accident. First time I ever saw the intro my jaw dropped, voice deepend, and hair grew on my balls. It was unlike anything I've ever seen and it was awesome.

In Brazil, DB was already popular and well known, it did play everyday in the morning on one of the most watched channels. DBZ however was massive, it did play on Cartoon Network for years before Toonami as was actually a thing, and also in the most popular non-cable channel, albeit with a few edits to remove some violence. It was the most popular anime and wasn't even close, I wanna say not even the Pokémon craze was that big. It was rerun to death and was mentioned in every nerdy geek gamer magazine of the day. And believe me on this one, I wanna say the BR dub of it is unironically the best out of all of them, even the original, a rare case. Portugal also got a dub of their own and its the funniest shit.

>>8261723
maybe because your country is full to the brim with them.

Born 1994. Personally I didn't actively watch DBZ at the time but it was definitely big at my school and in general. I remember seeing a few episodes at random and trying to go Super Saiyan in my yard but didn't really take much interest outside of that. Around 2002 my grandpa got me a DBZ toy because he assumed I would be into it. I played some of the Game Boy Color game as well because some kid lent it to me, and I got to play a little bit of Legacy of Goku 1 before my dad sent it out along with other launch window era GBA stuff off to someone as a gift. Needless to say, it was very zeitgeist around 2000-2002, I was very aware of its existence even if I wasn't a fan.
I didn't actually get into Dragon Ball until 2015 when I was in college. That's when I became a full blown Dragon Ball autist. I kind of wish I had been able to get into the show at the time, I think I mostly just found it confusing because I had no idea what the fuck was going on.

>>8262226
same with jojo, guess is true that they dont make it as they used to

I think I got introduced to it around 1997. I definitely remember getting in trouble at recess when I was in 1st grade for playing Dragon Ball Z with a friend of mine because we were pretending to do crazy punches and kicks and stuff.

Still, the show is absolutely mind blowing to young males. I have a cousin who was born in 2005 and even he was absolutely enamored by whatever DBZ content he saw either on TV, YouTube, or from the Budokai game I have. It’s just something that inherently appeals to the imaginations of young men.

>>8262774
>It’s just something that inherently appeals to the imaginations of young men.
Compare DBZ to the usual sanitized western cartoons we were used to watching. It was a shot of testosterone in the veins that we didn't even know we needed. It was like the first time you ever heard Panteras "Walk" and you just feel like breaking shit.

>>8262936
Poser faggot shit desu senpai

>>8262971
>Poser faggot shit desu senpai
In English doc

>>8258382
I haven't read any of the comments here yet but I was born in 85, DBZ wasn't popular until Toonami aired it. Before that it aired super early weekday mornings at like 6am with Samurai Pizza Cats and later Pokemon.

There was a year or so that Pokemon aired in that super early timeslot and kids didn't care about it, only when WB (now CW) picked it up and aired it did it become popular. A kid caught me playing the gameboy game at school and remarked "oh they made a game off the cartoon show?" lmao

In the 90s anime was not popular at all and I was importing vhs tapes of like, 2 episodes of evangelion for $70. It was bullshit

>>8263636
Not him but you are a poser faggot to be honest chief

>>8263718
Thanks for clearing that up

>>8261723
The Latin Spanish dub is exceptionally good, and Blacks love martial arts stuff in general.

>>8262232
Americans are incredibly fussy about what is and isn't "family-friendly" because of Puritan undercurrents running deep into the culture.

Germans are fairly loose when it comes to sexual content but are INCREDIBLY strict with violence, which really hurts properties like Dragon Ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHa6BefrJjE

>>8263660
>I was importing vhs tapes of like, 2 episodes of evangelion for $70.
What country are you from? I remember paying $50 for the ADV Evangelion VHSs that had 2 episodes each, still have them. It was crazy expensive but I think it was because the store I bought them from was charging some money (I'm not from the US, so they imported them from there, since they were ADV), $70 seems crazy though.
But yeah, that's how it was if you wanted to watch anime that wasn't on TV back then, you had to pay your way through, there was no torrenting or streaming. The other alternative was actually making friends with the same interests and trading VHSs and copying them. That's also the only way you could see The End of Evangelion, you had to find someone with a fansubbed VHS, because that movie wasn't officially released in the west until 2003.

Fucking huge. To me and every other boy I knew, it was the coolest thing in the universe. Although like others have said, it exploded in popularity in the States in the very late 90s and early 2000s, so to call it a 90s cultural phenomena isn't quite accurate. That's also when I found those magazines you're talking about, where you could also find episode summaries from arcs that the Toonami dub wasn't even close to yet.

>>8261723
Aside from the fact that pretty much everyone loves Dragonball, I think black people have a history of loving kung fu movies and fighting games. A lot of that same "DNA" is present in Dragonball (and shounen anime in-general).

>>8263660
>I haven't read any of the comments here yet
You really don't need to since OP reposts this thread like every week.

>>8262936
>Compare DBZ to the usual sanitized western cartoons we were used to watching. It was a shot of testosterone
More than that I think was the series' focus on long conflicts and story arcs that don't just end every day. Storytelling like that in action cartoons was still uncommon, with "big storylines" saved for the occasional 2-5 parter. Plus even in the Saban Dub days you could tell the stakes were huge. Half the cast gets killed off during the fight against Nappa and Vegeta and the other half are totally beat to shit and barely able to move afterwards. It wasn't really like anything else on American TV in the late 90s until other anime started coming in to capitalize on its success (most notably Gundam Wing)

>>8266396
I think the longer storytelling arcs are part of anime’s appeal as well as the reason people kept coming back to toonami every day for it. I was born in 86, most American tv was entirely episodic until the mid-90s, doubly so for kids’ stuff. Shows like DBZ and Gundam were so addictive after being used to mostly boring “adventure of the week” shows.

>>8266396
I remember my mom being baffled that anime episodes followed each other "like a soap opera" and weren't just disjointed shorts like Loony Tunes.

>>8267161
I honestly believe that's why anime in general did so well in Latinamerica.

>>8262685
>Portugal also got a sub of their own and its the funniest shit
BEJITA BROS???
https://youtu.be/XZJ_P1DhGrw

>>8258416
>Why do you keep making this thread?
Yeah, is this a bot? It's the exact same post as last time verbatim.

>>8266573
>Shows like DBZ and Gundam were so addictive
Not to me. I just got annoyed at not knowing what was going on and switched off.

>>8267175
VEGETA, OLHA BEM, WHOOOOOOOOOOO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bu7muZaoTUQ

In the distant future Dragon Ball will be considered Gnostic scripture. No, I will not elaborate on this

>>8266573
>most American tv was entirely episodic until the mid-90s, doubly so for kids’ stuff
Blame it on syndication. The real money in TV was selling pre-made programming to either independent networks or broadcast groups. It's also why so many cartoons were EXACTLY 65 episodes long, because that was the FCC minimum.

Because you had no idea when a program would be aired or by who, content was made so that someone who has never seen a series before could watch any episode and still get the gist of the characters and understand the plot. People who tuned in the middle of a storyline would get confused and change the channel; making advertisers very unhappy.

>>8258382
I was obsessed with DBZ in 1999 through early 2000s. Played all the games in Japanese on emulators at the time. Hyper Dimension was so fucking awesome. Also I beat the RPG even though I couldn't read anything and also didn't use save-states.