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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>8245736

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct
OP PASTE
http://pastebin.com/TWNE3nZZ

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Half-Life WON version
https://pastebin.com/4Hva72v7
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

>> No.8259691

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 4.0 https://rentry.org/6hwzi
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfunv4

VRSKINS 4.1
https://www.mediafire.com/file/urs0pu1uwryuigi/vrskins_v4.1.pk3/file

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8215938
Please use spawnflag 16 for your level exit triggers

/vr/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT
Info here >>8234437

=== NEWS ===

[10-22] Fractured Worlds now available, Boom-compatible maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125253-fractured-worlds-version-13/

[10-22] GZDoom updated to 4.7.1
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=73631

[10-19] Golden Souls 1 Remastered now available
https://batandy.itch.io/goldensouls

[10-18] Doom 32X Resurrection, a romhack replacing the engine
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6269/

[10-17]Ashes 2063 Episode 2 to be released on 22nd of October(remove this news when its released)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=69612&start=375#p1202447

[10-15]luciusDXL Released Some The Force Engine gameplay for Dark Forces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOnNjCdsswM

[10-13]Quakewulf is making another Quake 2 Map with Brutalist art
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1448404640220000256

[10-11] REKKR: Sunken Land released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1715690/REKKR_Sunken_Land/

[10-9] Temporal Tantrum hotfix
http://drive.google.com/file/d/1xA3xJpDECRW40sq_3YZfqoky9MhDZ87U/view?usp=sharing

[10-8] Dario Casali is playing Doom again
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125038-playing-through-punish2wad-28-years-after-making-it/

[10-7] Aliens Eradication TC 2.0 is out
https://www.moddb.com/mods/aliens-eradication-tc/news/aliens-eradication-tc-20-releajtwpdse

=== PREVIOUS ===
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-vrTgPGmlLwdO5VHHCJMxmRD05E6XlNmqHIN8aykRG0

TO SUBMIT NEWS, REPLY TO THIS POST

>> No.8259693
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8259693

Speaking of monkeys.
Anyone remember this enemy from Duke 3D

>> No.8259698

What's your favorite wad and sourceport? For me it's Alien Vendetta and Crispy Doom.

>> No.8259701

>>8259693
how were they gameplay wise?
does duke have any mods that restore any cut or obscure enemies into duke 3d?

>> No.8259714

>>8259693
I actually do remember those so I assume they were used in a fan made map or smth at some point

>> No.8259717

>>8259701
He's essentially a Battlelord but always fires Mortars regardless how far the player is.
He has less health than those flying fat guys.

All I know is that some Duke mods for Doom add this enemy to replace some of the Barons or SS officers.

>>8259714
From Duke Xtreme by Sunstorm

>> No.8259719

>>8259687

So I've been out of the loop for like what, two years? what did I miss in the meantime? I remember Treasure Tech and Hellforge finally coming out

>> No.8259725

seems there's a few duke expansions that were technically official but weren't part of any rerelease or port

>> No.8259737

>>8259719
3 is a Crowd
Akeldama
Auger Zenith
Heartland
Micro Slaughter
Zone 400

>> No.8259740
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8259740

>> No.8259810

>>8259719
HFFM

>> No.8259901

>>8259719
Many many new updates to Hideous Destructor.

>> No.8259932
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>>8259719
Blade of Agony got its final update

Get the uncensored version

>> No.8259952

>>8259719
500ml of /vr/ for Blood got released in that time.

>> No.8259959

>>8259932
this is epic

>> No.8259963

>>8259698
Favorite wads are Doom Zero, A.L.T., Scythe 2, Speed of Doom, Going Down and Eternal Doom
Favorite sourceports are Crispy Doom and Woof!

>> No.8260029

>>8259698
For me, it's Metroid Dreadnought, and I don't know what a sourceport is.

>> No.8260042

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NbiI7RKGxM
I expect this to be cute.

>> No.8260045

>>8259719
2048 Units in /vr/
Hard Fast Faggot Maps

>> No.8260054

>>8259698
btsx1 and woof

>> No.8260078

I remember that in Wolf3D there was a Blazkowicz animation at the end level screen,
Anyone know how to fix it?

>> No.8260101

>>8259932
oh god dammit
what happened now

>> No.8260105

>>8259725
It's still funny to me Penthouse Paradise was a real expansion

>> No.8260106

>>8260101
It's old news but here you go

https://www.moddb.com/mods/wolfendoom-blade-of-agony/news/is-blade-of-agony-v31-horribly-censored

>> No.8260152

>>8250512
Heretic 2 has acrobatics with the staff (pole-vaulting, wall-jumping, and so on).
Hexen 2 has special abilities for each class. Stuff like the Necromancer having a random chance to get lifeforce from enemies, or the Demoness being able to flap her wings to slow her descent.

>> No.8260187

>>8260106
I haven't looked but my guess is that they changed the concentration camp to a pow camp, or changed the prisoners to something gay. Removed Elsa, Shewolf of the SS and replaced her with something gay. Took the posters out and replaced them with something gay. And put a pride flag up at HQ, for good measure.

>> No.8260206
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8260206

/vr/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT ANCHOR POST.

DEADLINE: OCTOBER 29

(RE)POST YOUR MAP UPDATES HERE

>> No.8260209

>>8255535
Dont assign an action. For the pots and other breakable objects, you only need to add the drop's spawn number to the thing's first argument. The spawn number is different from the editor number. If youre using a good editor like UDB, there should be a drop-down list of items.

https://zdoom.org/wiki/Hexen_spawn_numbers

>> No.8260213

>>8260042
This is wholesome so far. Petersen seems so excited.

>> No.8260218

>>8259932
where do i get uncensored now?

>> No.8260223

>>8260042
wait is this live?

>> No.8260227 [DELETED] 

>>8260223
It's a premiere, which is kind of a pre-recorded video in live.

>> No.8260238

>>8260223
It's a premiere, which is kind of a pre-recorded video in live format.

>> No.8260247

>>8260218
I have it somewhere, but I'm sure it's still out there.

>> No.8260248
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8260248

>>8260187
None of that.

From Tormentor's comment

- The "concentration camp" term is changed to a "prison camp" (only the term, not the map itself)
- All references to jewish prisoners in the former camp have been removed
- The historical correct but anti-semitic content in the World Exhibition in Paris has completely been replaced
- Every anti-semitic Nazi advertisement posters and drawings have been replaced
- The terms "holocaust" and "Final Solution" have been replaced

Nothing that will affect the gameplay but the fact some shmucks complained about it and decided to kneel,just sucks

>> No.8260252

>>8260248
Its a good thing we dont see the nazis doing all that bad stuff. That would make it seem like they were bad guys or something.

>> No.8260258

>>8260248
never forget master race difficulty

>> No.8260260

>>8260042
It's so sweet to see Petersen in the chat talking to people while the video plays

>> No.8260267

>>8260042
You expected right.

>> No.8260268

>>8260260
>If she starts playing Doom online she's going to meet all sorts of unsuitable people.
damn he even name gdropped me

>> No.8260271
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8260271

>>8260042

>> No.8260280

>>8260271
>>8260268
based gramps

>> No.8260289
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8260289

>>8260258
Oh yeah that one too

>>8260252
I constantly see complains that WW2 games are not historically accurate enough. BOA is not accurate given the hi tech and zombies but at least tried to replicate the setting of the time period. Which they do pretty damn well.

But then all the sudden is not a good thing anymore.
Those complains were some of the most idiotic things I've read in a while and lead to Torm getting banned after 2 decades on the website

>> No.8260301

>>8260248
Imagine if a game where Nazis are used as the villains showed actual villainous things they did. DW is retarded as fuck.

>> No.8260303

>>8260248
i think the worst torm has done is making a joke about someone trans, if that was true
but i wonder what works of fiction do people consume nowadays that makes it forbidden from making obvious bad guys even more evil
not to say that wolfendoom blade of agony is "high art" for a well known bloated mod full of misdirections but where's that power fantasy in punching nazis if they can't do the things they're good at?
remember that bioshock infinite review saying "what's the point of making bad guys racist, if they can't even say the n word?"
unless it's only ok if you add something to "contrast" it, no matter how out of place it is, like an ally female soldier designed like an "epic brown skinned tomboy with pink hair" so suddenly the mod is also woke and the good kind of horny
they unironically fell for that "doom promotes satanism despite being about killing demons" rhetoric spewed by rightwing boomers

>> No.8260308

>>8260301
>Imagine if a game where Nazis are used as the villains showed actual villainous things they did
Tons more people started idolizing that I think, as well as all of 2016 happening.

>> No.8260321

>>8260303
>i think the worst torm has done is making a joke about someone trans, if that was true

pretty sad that the only thing people know about the drama is this when torm didn't even know about randi's transition, and the entire character is just some monkey island reference

>> No.8260364

>>8260321
>>8260303
Even then none of this should have any impact on the making of a mod. Let the antagonist be a villain for fuck sake,it's like these days the only way to make a villain is making a twist villain or a clumsy idiot.
Blade of Agony is the most ambitious mod in Doom history and they had to cripple it that way.

>> No.8260378

>>8260303
>>8260364
Linguica got scared shitless when Doom was brought into Columbine coverage and DW has since upheld this unspoken rule to ban and reject anything that could create a serious controversy. There's nothing more to it, I think. ZDoom forums are another matter.

>> No.8260392
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8260392

So the last thread has reminded me that Arthurian Legends have been out of a while and I somehow missed it. So I picked it up with a five finger discount.
What the fuck is this engine even.
Can't rebind controls from game, have to quit, rebind it in pre-launch window. Same for resolution.
Need to install some shady redist that needs my PC rebooted or else it just wont work.
Jank movement physics. Tries to emulater Build, but feels even jankier than Witchaven somehow.

Performance is absolute trash. I have i7 with 1080 ti. It plays Cyberpunk 2077 on high at 55-70. It plays all modern games at 60+.
This turd give me 45-50 fps on average, 35-40 in a fight.

Cherry on top: horrendous view distance, worse than on most PS1 games. Thats on maximum setting.I am not kidding. Bumping the fog distance in config does nothing - it just resets back.

>> No.8260397
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>>8260392
Some guy on Steam brought up that it would have run better if it was done on EDuke or GZDoom. Got this kind of hot takes as a response

>> No.8260401

>>8259698
Bourgeois Deathmatch, Crispy

>> No.8260407
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8260407

Does anyone have a link to the dramatic reading of the "arrogance and contempt" copypasta?
I remember hearing it somewhere in a deep villanous voice, close to Corax from Hexen, but now I cant find it anywhere.

>> No.8260408

>>8260392
Its fucking awesome I like the gameplay, I am already on level 4 in legends never die.

Its tough as nails but all the items\weapons have a tactic.

I am no issues with performance but then again I am playing it on a new pc.

>> No.8260410

>>8260397
Imagine taking years to fine-tune a vanilla TC, only to see it get associated with Graf. That's some sour shit.

>> No.8260419

>>8260397
burning down your pc in a 2.5D engine, like it's 1994. now that's what i call retro

>> No.8260430

>>8260397
The last dude honestly has a point. the game has its own feel to it and its just not another gzdoom thing.

I juts think the fov is a bit weird and I have to crank it to 100 or 110.

>> No.8260441

>>8260378
And that's fair.
My issue is how this whole thing was made a bigger issue than it actually was.

Thankfully it didn't have anything to affect the gameplay

>> No.8260442

>>8260042
>i'm scared
>you should be

>> No.8260449
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8260449

>Doomguy and Doomslayer are the same
>Doomguy is 6'0,while Doomslayer is 6'9 in Eternal

Did the armor made him taller?

>> No.8260454

would be funny if someone made a spriteset based off that one female doom 64 cut enemy, but the model used as a base was olivia pierce just because she's a short haired women with a weird tech suit
>>8260449
he did put on those boots for double jumps

>> No.8260458

>>8260449
probably just a retcon, average height also increased since then and 182 cm height isn't menacing anymore

>> No.8260482
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>>8260458
182 cm was never menacing

>> No.8260486

>>8259698
Zzul Bases
DSDA

>> No.8260490

>>8260458
>>8260482
Doomguy also wasn't especially tall or menacing in the original games. He was just an ordinary dude doing what he had to do.

>> No.8260503

>>8260482
macular man with above average height is pretty menacing to me

>> No.8260514

>>8260449
He's only slightly taller than the cutscene scientists and is the same height as those dudes in black armor, I don't think his height changed at all, he only got wider

>> No.8260527
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>>8260514
Don't remember where but it says his canon height is 6'9.

Then again Blazkowicz supposed to be a 6'4 and didn't look that tall

>>8260503
Agree with that

>> No.8260539

>>8260527
If you don't remember where you read it then that isn't very solid evidence
People have said he's 5'7 by measuring the player sprites to the levels, Quake 3 character bio says he's 6'0, Champions makes him the same height as Ranger who was apparently 6'5
He's whatever you want him to be frankly, he's supposed to be a self insert anyways

>> No.8260549

>>8260248
So only 2/3rds of what I said minus an obvious joke.
And Elsa? How did she fair?

>> No.8260552

>>8260503
You need a real man

>> No.8260564
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>>8260539
I remember there was a scaling next to other enemies and fans noticed he's taller than his 2016 counterpart.
Some even say that this where they got the info saying the scientist was average height.
To me is just really short.

Apparently I got it wrong he's a 6'8 but who really cares. Let's not forget Duke is a 6'4" but then you compare it next to other citizen and share the same height

>> No.8260574

>>8260378
The place used to have a sense of humor, judging by older projects of theirs. I'm thinking the current political climate has made him more paranoid, and if that's the case, I can't necessarily blame him.

>> No.8260582

>>8260574
that and he's a former goon, so it'd be unsurprising if he went down the path of "I'm a mature adult who's grown up and will go the other extreme" so many other SA posters did

>> No.8260583

>>8260407
That was RottKing who read that. We actually sampled it for the Icon Of Sin battle for 2048 Units Of /vr/, pitching it down and distorting it.

>> No.8260589

first time playing this, best character Class?

>> No.8260590

The only retro fps I've completed was chex quest
Gonna try and beat it on the hardest difficulty

>> No.8260595

>>8260490
Yeah isn't this the point?

I would much prefer the current normie zeitgeist to be that doomguy is you normal hurting human against impossible odds and still putting up a fight.

>> No.8260596

>>8260590
It was kinda fun on the Nightmare equivalent.

>> No.8260597

>>8260589
paladin

>> No.8260598

>>8260589
What game?

>> No.8260602

>>8260397
This guys an asshat
>REKKR
>GZDOOM mod
cringe

>> No.8260606

>>8260595
So I wasn't the only one who felt that way.
Him being a regular soldier going up against enemies larger than life was appealing,made him vulnerable.

A powerful being who at some point got superpowers just because someone above felt like it feels boring.

>> No.8260609

>>8260606
>>8260595
i wish id just admitted the slayer exists because of death battle and master chief
not even the doom comic does this
the way how the lore explains hell and demons doesn't help either
it's hard to even see the "cool factor" when even fans of the current lore are either upset or try to justify shit with headcanons

>> No.8260616

>>8260609
>it's hard to even see the "cool factor" when even fans of the current lore are either upset or try to justify shit with headcanons
this part is hilarious, somehow doom went from a simple blurb in the manual to a constant series of asspulls and twists and red herrings, and now it's a steaming turd that no one tries following anymore

>> No.8260618

>>8260602
Well it does ship with gzdoom. So I get why they're saying that. It's not an issue. I can't answer everyone or stop them from being wrong.

>> No.8260624
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>>8260606
>>8260609

There was always stuff pulling to both sides, the huge guts meme one won.


I don't care in the end really.


But I love the failed horror attempt at doom, the times was never right. I think in my mind my perfect doom is 2.5, the aesthetic of doom64, and elements of HD to really amke you think you are a normal human fighting against hell itself and never giving up.

I would say even sacrificing yourself to slay the demons.

>> No.8260631

>>8260624
i feel like the "doomed marine" and "slayer" should be seen as occasional states of the doomguy, specially if tied to difficulty settings or occasional levels and items
like a rollercoaster

>> No.8260632

>>8260598
Hexen and Hexen II

>> No.8260638
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8260638

>>8259691
>[10-22] GZDoom updated to 4.7.1
Neat.
I'd never bother to update this shit if I had to do it manually, so DRD Team is pretty based for setting up that PPA or whatever it's called.

>> No.8260645

>>8260631
No, if id actually cared, ( they never did, its a pioneer game like caring about mario bros story\lore whatever you want to call it).


Then it could be like a monomyth, doom guy is just a normal human, hurts and feels pain never gives up in the face of evil, struggles like mad, falls into darkness near the end, receives boom from the forces of good, and rips and tears his way into the bloody end.

>> No.8260652

>>8260609
The objective was simple and was making him one of the strongest characters in videogame history.
Which will only lead on making comparisons to other powerful beings.
And power scaling fans are some of the worst,it's just pandering.

In fact the lore itself is pandering. See Doom 3 and 2016,both have plenty of info and lore but you're free to not care about by simply skipping it,the story is still easy to follow.
In fact classic Doom's manual had a simple premise and gave you everything you needed. Same for some intermission texts.

Doom Eternal says "fuck that,people have a fetish for lore,I'll do it too".

>> No.8260657

>>8260574
A while back he said something to the effect that he's sick of paying for hosting only to have to deal with Chinese spambots. I don't think he even cares about what goes on in the forums anymore as long as it doesn't dock his chances of selling the site.

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8260661

>>8260616
>Marauder
>Betrayer
>Big baddie who looks like you
>Hell city
>Giant being who's really angry at you
>Angels but not really
>Ancestors
>Protagonist has a family but we won't show
>Doom universe
>Alternate Dimensions

What happened to keeping it simple?

>> No.8260664

>>8259932
I hope the last uncensored version of Blade of Agony can still be found without going into shady .onion, i2p or suspicious VPN proxy shit. May it still work with Zandronum.

>> No.8260667

>>8260661
different group of people at id worked on Eternal and its Expansions.

>> No.8260669

>>8260664
I don't know if it's the last version or not but IIRC somebody posted a version of it on kiwifarms that the actual devs removed

>> No.8260671
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8260671

>>8260609
>i wish id just admitted the slayer exists because of death battle and master chief
You know, I never thought of it that way. I feel like Doomslayer tries way too fucking hard to be a badass character. It's always these stupidly over-the-top kills and cinematic bullshit with him. Contrast that with pic related. Doomguy here is just a man fighting back desperately against the demonic hordes. He's wounded, his armour's scratched up and he doesn't know about that demon reaching out for him from behind. It conveys this sense of desperation that's never seen in Doom 2016 or Doom Eternal, which I think matches the original atmosphere of Doom way better.

>> No.8260678

>>8260664
It worked with Zandronum?

>>8260667
It shares the same directors. Maybe they saw how this all shared universe and lore was so popular and decided to go all out with it.
It's like going from Evil Dead to fucking Warhammer in terms of plot

>> No.8260680

>>8260671
I don't have a problem with the term Doomslayer. They are just names for the same guy.

>> No.8260683

>>8260661
Remember when Universal tried doing their "Dark Universe" with Dracula and Mummy because they saw the MCU make a shitzillion dollars, and then pulled the plug when it failed? id was just following popular trends, which is a bit ironic considering Doom's legacy.

>> No.8260693

>>8260678
>It's like going from Evil Dead to fucking Warhammer in terms of plot
Evil Dead to *Army of Darkness.

>> No.8260701
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>>8260680
What does that have to do with my post? Also, pretty much no one uses Doomslayer to refer to the character outside of 2016 and Eternal. While they are technically the same guy, Doomguy and Doomslayer are different depictions of the same guy. But I guess I'm just being autistic about semantics.

>> No.8260710

>>8260693
Oh yeah that one. What a mess.

>>8260683
Proves that just because something is successful doesn't mean that you will get the same results if you try to replicate it.

That happened with a lot of mapsets trying to replicate other games style but didn't work for Doom

>>8260671
It's more of a process of changing your target audience.
Remember how early Resident Evil games were campy but maintain their horror atmosphere? With RE 4 and 5 that was almost gone because action games were getting more popular.

New Id Software saw what were the most popular things around of time of development and tried to replicate them

>> No.8260713
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8260713

About Blade of Agony.
I started playing it and so far is good.
Tried to go with lowest settings just in case it was lagging too much.

Glad they were inspired by RTCW with a bit of 2009

>> No.8260719
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8260719

>Project Brutality has an option to remove marine companions chatter
>Another one to remove them completely
>To speed up fatalities
>Turn off Doomguy's chatter
>Speed up glory kills

It's like they saw this shit was pretty annoying for many and decided to fix it

>> No.8260728

>>8260206
so this project is ded again?

>> No.8260739

>>8260728
It's alive in our hearts

>> No.8260745

>>8260728
Lead needs to get a beta out yesterday or there's not gonna be enough time to playtest out the kinks

>> No.8260751
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8260751

>> No.8260761
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>> No.8260764

>>8259719
rekkr came out on steam at 60 dollars

>> No.8260771

>>8260618
had to turn off rendering interpolation and switch resolution to 480p, those retards wouldn't notice a thing

>> No.8260774

>>8260710
>just because something is successful doesn't mean that you will get the same results if you try to replicate it.
Ah, yes, too true. Yet at the same time different results do not equal failure. By all means you are free to go back to playing Doom3 again.

>> No.8260778

>>8260664
i posted it in recent threads but nobody cared

>> No.8260789

>>8260693
Army of darkness had a simple as fuck plot. It was campy nonsense, but it wasn't overdone.

>> No.8260793

>>8260771
Hit F8.

>> No.8260796

>>8260793
why?

>> No.8260798

>>8260796
I mean in REKKR. It just switches to a graphics preset that apes vanilla is all.

>> No.8260802

Hyped for Ashes where the fuck is it?

Want to clean myself of Hedon.

>> No.8260803

>>8260798
my point is they wouldn't even notice it runs on gzdoom if vanilla preset was turned on by default

>> No.8260809

>>8259687
Come ON, Zandy devs! make a new version of Zandronum already! Either that, or let others fork it!

>> No.8260813

>>8259737
>>8259810
>>8259932
>>8260764

anything cool in the realm of gameplay mods or TCs? I like the resmastered Golden Souls 1

also
>60 dollars
200 pesos for me

>> No.8260837
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>>8260802
I was looking forward to 21:00 GMT the entire day. He should have just part of the day instead of a specific time.

>> No.8260858

>>8260803
Oh, I just misread a tad. Yeah, probably not. The most noticable change is that the axe is slightly easier to use. And the non-infinite tall monsters.

>> No.8260869

>>8260106
Erasing nazi images from WW2-inspired media is holocaust denial.

There. I said it.

>> No.8260871

>>8260813
absolutamente desagradable

>> No.8260881

>>8260813
>>8260871
Good products shouldn't be free. Quit being selfish and put your money where your mouth is.

>> No.8260894

>>8260624
Try a combo of Brutal Doom/Project Brutality depending on preference, the ambient music mod (the one with the more tense soundtrack), the visor mod, and a mod that makes maps dark. It makes the game much, much more tense when you can barely see and your flashlight makes every cunt on the map go apeshit.

>> No.8260898

>>8260789
True. It's more about the direction the series took.

>> No.8260926

>>8260869
At least they kept swastikas and other symbols with the nazis.
Some game companies straight up wuss out despite making a more grounded take on WW2.
None of this non-issue should've happened.

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>>8260926
>At least they kept swastikas

about that...

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>>8260802
dude its up!!

>> No.8260940
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8260940

About Total Conversions.
I wonder if an FPS inspired by Wolfenstein but this time with Soviets. But the latter a closer to those from Red Alert.
Would be interesting to see soviet weapons of that era getting the hi-tech treatment that german weapons got.

Soviet Brutalism would make for a good creepy setting

>> No.8260943

>>8260935
Played the mod and they're still there.

>> No.8260953

>>8260940
Like that Red Alert FPS?

>> No.8260954

>>8260943
you probably played the old version

>> No.8260967

>>8260206
https://files.catbox.moe/spuwf4.zip
MAP06 version 1.0
Map Name: Beneath Bloodstone
Author: Wolpertinger
Playtime: 4-6 Minutes
MIDI: Nine Inch Nails - Down in it
In retrospect, this kind of dark cave map might have been a bit much for my level of experience, but fuck it, I did it.

>> No.8260968
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8260968

FRIDAY NIGHT FIREFIGHT TIME, BITCHES! TODAY WE'RE FRAGGING ON IDDM18.WAD. JOIN 104.128.49.2:10687 WITH ZANDRONUM AND JOIN THE FIGHT

>> No.8260969
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8260969

>>8260967
>Forgot my image.
FUCK.

>> No.8260982

>>8260248
The concentration camp was tasteless and didn't achieve the tone they were going for but it was the last thing that needed to be taken out

For fucks sake there's still an anti-trans joke in there, way to take the wrong less torm

>> No.8260990

>>8260871
>>8260881

the other way around anons
1 usd=a bazillion pesos

>> No.8260991

>>8260982
>anti-trans joke

uhm... based?

>> No.8260995

>>8260982
I felt it was a ballsy move to put a concentration camp about how it came out It's subjective.

What joke exactly?

>> No.8261002 [DELETED] 

>>8260982

pfff everything is anti trans these days considering the shit that got chapelle "cancelled" (read: twitter yelling at him when he is laughing all the way to the bank)

the LGBT community cries wolf too often for me to care

>> No.8261026
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>>8260968
newfag here, why isn't this working? manually downloaded the WADs/PK3s but still can't connect

>> No.8261028
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>>8261026
ignore me posting the wrong picture

>> No.8261031
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8261031

Just throwing this idea back out in case anyone is still interested since the Halloween project is almost done. This would be a small project where everyone creates a different part of the same map "patchwork" style. You would claim a tile, draw your design for it, then map it out to be combined into one chaotic mess. Every other tile would be claimed and drawn out first, then a second round of claiming would happen with the remaining tiles to ensure every tile is properly connected. The center tile would contain the end trigger locked behind all three keys. Each key would be in the corners as shown, making the map more open ended. I'm also thinking of splitting up the three main weapons spawns (rl, ssg, plasma) in a similar fashion.
The size of the grid and how big each tile is solely depends on how many people would be willing to partake. More people = larger grid but smaller tiles. Any other ideas for the project are appreciated.

>> No.8261032

>>8261028
slight wad mismatch. Probably some patch that didn't get a different filename or something. Can't autodownload through doomseeker?

>> No.8261042

>>8261028
put the doom2.wad in your doomseeker folder, it breaks if you use freedoom

>> No.8261043

>>8261032
yes actually in retrospect I should have done that in the first place
400 ping ain't that bad

>> No.8261058

>>8261002
Community heads gaslighting LGBT people into believing they're a single word away from killing themselves is a conversation that should've been had ten years ago.

>> No.8261070

>>8261058
>>8261002
>>8260982
All fun and everything but let's not go too off topic here

>> No.8261074
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8261074

>It's been 10 years since Duke Nukem Forever came out
>5 years since World Tour came out

For fuck's sake Randy let him go

>> No.8261080

>>8261074
Randy will never let Duke go. Duke must be made to suffer until the end of time.

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>>8261074
>Those born when the game was announced and the first trailer showed up are grown adults
>Those born when the E3 trailer happened are now in college

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>> No.8261124

>>8261074

you know it would be funny to have a game about the Nukem family and these are its members
>granny Nukem
>uncle Nukem
>and the Nukem cousins shorty and scareceow

fund it

>> No.8261129

>>8259691
Ashes 2063 Episode 2 has been released.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=69612

>> No.8261142

>>8260990
lo dije porque es argentino
yo tambien

>> No.8261158
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8261158

I still wish Hunter to have her own game.
To me she was the most interesting character in Quake 3.

Her concept art for Champions was mediocre and knowing how things go that will never happen.
I'm not even asking to have her naked just something that could keep the aesthetic

>> No.8261169
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>> No.8261178

>>8261169
I misread "sternum" with "rectum".
That seriously confused me for a second

>> No.8261212
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>>8260206
Updated the weapons some.

>the palette rapes the muzzleflashes, so I've tried to mitigate this some by doing some dithering to blend red and orange (it looks ok, I guess)
>tweaked sounds
>made the drum magazine brighter and more standout
>tried to fix the shotgun pickup sprite because the palette also raped that
>fixed credits
>added text strings for clip and clipbox pickup (they're in the LANGUAGE lump but can just be copied, again, this is all just a demonstration of animation frames and sounds)

https://files.catbox.moe/b9pxdh.wad
I'd appreciate any further input.

I think that something I'll do after the project is finished and released, is to make a little optional patch which has the weapon sprites as truecolor .pngs, because the palette really does a number on these sprites. The palette makes the overall environment look nice, but beyond that, MAN.

>> No.8261217

Who here was the anon who couldn't download REKKR due to 32 bit support?
I need you to test it now.
I literally just chucked the 32 bit GZdoom in there and renamed it so the MP gui would work. Lemme know if it does.

>> No.8261219
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8261219

>>8261212

>> No.8261221
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>>8261158
You never know anon, maybe one day once devs stop being faggots.

But I demand a decent model with TnA physics to go with the stellar 3rd person gameplay. And dinosaurs, and robots, and magic and bimbo lips.

>> No.8261228
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I also discovered this weird as fuck bug with the DeHacked guns version of 2048, where instead of just spitting those little decorative fire puffs all over when exploding, rockets apparently scatters hitscan attacks in all directions, including at you (akin to the "nailbomb" property you can use in Decorate code).

I believe that this bug is probably on GzDoom's end, not ours, Graf may have broken something while implementing partial support for Extended DeHacked (which is apparently a bitch to implement). This is version 4.7.0 though, and 4.7.1 came out just the other day, so maybe this bug is already fixed.

>> No.8261230
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8261230

Someone should make a traumatic mod about child soldiers.

>> No.8261232

>>8261228
It might be, because King Boners spawn a hitscan trace in GZDoom.

>> No.8261235

>>8261230
make them sand babies and it's instant cacoward bait

>> No.8261250

>>8261228
Did a ROTT gun get used as the base for this weapon sprite?

>> No.8261251
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8261251

>>8261230
that's just HD at minimum player height

>> No.8261259

>>8261251
Beautiful precious small boy.
I find it odd that most people go either max, min, or default with the height slider.
I just made myself slightly smaller to fit in the trashcan on newrange.wad

>> No.8261265

>>8261259
i know a few people have just set it to their real life height, but if i did that i'd only be 7cm away from the max anyway so i might as well go all the way and be able to step over the range counter without jumping

>> No.8261268

>>8261265
Don't worry, you're still small where it counts.

>> No.8261269

>>8261268
The size of his debt?

>> No.8261276

>>8261158
>I'm not even asking to have her naked just something that could keep the aesthetic
Closest you're getting is Heavy Metal: FAKK2

>> No.8261281
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>>8261250
Yes, among other things. Look in the 2048GUNS mod for a credits file.

>> No.8261290
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8261290

>Babel for Doom
>Copper for Quake
>Mission 64 for Quake 2
These "vanilla plus" mods are amazing

>> No.8261312

>>8261217
Still unable to download I'm afraid.

>> No.8261313
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8261313

good fragfest
i really need to come to these more often
and not suck so fucking much...
literally the only time i was even half close to first
still fun though ggs

>> No.8261315

>>8260271
>kneel and drink my knob

>> No.8261318

>>8261312
>>8261217
Did the 64bit version get replaced, or is the 32bit version alongside it? If it's still there and running as default, Steam may be still detecting that the game runs 64-bit by default.

>> No.8261323

>>8261312
Well fuck. I'll get to it. Thanks for giving it a whack.
>>8261318
Alongside. I probably just need to change some setting in in steamworks, I just wanted to see if uploading it and saying "THIS IS 32 BIT VERISON" was enough, but it's not.

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>>8261158
i, on the other hand, am asking to have her naked

>> No.8261334

>>8261323
The steam page still has 64-bit CPU as mandatory if it's any help. Thanks for the constant updates!

>> No.8261409
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8261409

>>8260449
I guess he got taller when Sam supercharged him with that Divinity Machine thing.

>> No.8261453

>>8261074

Middle one is a pretty good Duke.

>> No.8261474 [DELETED] 

>>8260953
which is run by troons and morons?
W3D is SJW central, , and the head of the group a guy by the name of One Winged Angel wants to hire a "diversity expert"

>> No.8261495

>>8261474
I think you quoted the wrong person.

>> No.8261525

Is there a torrent of everything currently on the idgames archive?

>> No.8261556
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>>8260206
>>8260967
https://files.catbox.moe/7gkqy0.zip
MAP06 version 1.1
Map Name: Beneath Bloodstone
Author: Wolpertinger
Playtime: 4-6 Minutes
MIDI: Nine Inch Nails - Down in it
Realized I forgot to implement difficulties, whoops.

>> No.8261636

>>8261334
Yeah, I have to change that separately. I don't want to advertise it on the store page if it doesn't have it.
Could I bother you to try one more time? The 32 bit depot is set live, I just need to see if steam will hand it to you automatically, or what, because I'm not getting an option to manually check off 32 bit windows that I can find.

>> No.8261668

In DSDA DOOM how do I turn off the FPS counter in the top left corner? Can't find an option for it and I've pressed every key on my keyboard.

>> No.8261675

>>8261668
How do you turn it on? I don't have one.

>> No.8261682
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8261682

Is GZDoom good?
I read stuff that makes me worried about whether or not the dev will pull the plug on it.

>> No.8261695

>>8261682
Even if the chicken dropped dead this very instant, there are other people who would carry on with development. As for whether or not it's good, it depends on what you want to do with it. Are you looking to develop mods or just use it as a source port?

>> No.8261721

>>8261682
GZDoom made the game accessible to young people, so no, it's not good.

>> No.8261729

>>8261682
Why are game modders all such crybaby drama queens

>> No.8261749

>>8261729
Graf wasted his life away pumping out code for Playstation shovelware before turning to mobile apps. His sourceport is the only thing he's ever done in his field of expertise that wasn't immediately forgotten, so he thought that post would carry the same weight as threatening suicide.
If you think this is hyperbolic then just wait for the next round of Graf drama.

>> No.8261773

Why no one talking about Ashes Afterglow?

>> No.8261781

>>8261675
I don't know. I must have pressed something. Only popped up today.

>> No.8261785

Playing Ashes Afterglow, does anyone know how toget to the gap? Chick told me to look for a tunnel in the flooded district but I can't find anything, only a closed door in a parking lot. Only found gas and ammo primers so far.

>> No.8261791

>>8261773
>Ashes Afterglow
I still need to go through the first - and that needs to happen after Rekkr.

>> No.8261797

>>8261773
I'm just playing the first episode

>> No.8261804

>>8261785
Oh nvm found it, go from the airvent in the kitchen near that parking lot.

>> No.8261807

>>8261781
Check if any .ini files in your DSDA folder have a modification date that matches your last session, you should be able to work out which one stores your settings. Back up and edit the suspicious value.

>> No.8261840

>>8261636
Still nothing, I restarted Steam and it still doesn't let me unfortunately. Sorry for the late reply, I'm working at the same time.

>> No.8261850

>Halo CE is retro now
FML

>> No.8261861

>>8261850
halo, more like gaylol

>> No.8261880

>>8261840
Well then... I guess I'll figure this out tomorrow maybe. Thanks again. I don't have a 32 bit system to test from obviously, except for an old XP laptop from 2002 or so that can barely run GTA3.
Spose I could give that a whirl.

>> No.8261902

>>8261880
It's OK, don't stress it, I already finished Sunken Land and it was great.

>> No.8261921

>>8261074
he was added to bulletstorm after world tour

>> No.8262140

What's the /vr/ perspective on Doom 2016 and Eternal?
2016 was a good step but pales in comparison to eternal IMO, the combat in eternal is very doom-y and is borderline ascendant for the state of FPS games

>> No.8262186

>>8262140
2016 was good
eternal went too meta with combat, the story is garbage, and "resource management" is outright axed. "oh no, I have to press 1 button on conveniently respawning trash mob once every 20 seconds, how do I manage that, peak resource management I swear guize"

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>>8262140
>the combat in eternal is very doom-y
I don't agree. Eternal plays extremely differently to Doom I and II.
>Huge emphasis on using a variety of different abilities and managing cooldowns
>Glory kill mechanic for a number of different reasons
>>Abusing invulnerability frames and regaining all your health on gibbing an imp
>>Glory killing invalidates just shooting something and killing it outright
>>If an enemy recovers from being staggered, you have to sink even more ammo into them to stagger them again
>Chainsaw provides theoretically infinite ammo, meaning there is very little resource management (apart from cooldowns)
>The enemy roster isn't as good as Doom II's
>Suffers from modern level design, in that it focuses more on making believable locations, rather than using the levels to create gameplay
>Because enemies can theoretically chase you anywhere in the arena, it invalidates clever enemy placement to design combat encounters
>The overall tone of the game is completely different from Doom I and II, in that you're some legendary figure and there's a fuck ton of background story, as opposed to just being a guy who's good with a gun
If I had to think of a game that was like Doom Eternal, I would say the closest thing was Guild Wars 2, just with more shooting and movement abilities. That game also puts nearly all its emphasis on managing cooldowns, rather than resources. I also played Eternal first and I can say Doom I and II are better games, especially when you take into account user content.

>> No.8262196

Dario said in one of his DW threads he'll play Plutonia revisited and then the original Plutonia after he's finished with Plutonia 2 and he'll talk about his design thoughts while playing the original

>> No.8262219

>>8262140
The new Dooms and Shadow Warriors are all fun and not retro.

>> No.8262267

>>8259687
any of you fags entering the defrag world cup or are yuo pussys and only play doom?

>> No.8262314

>>8262267
i only play fortnite

>> No.8262330

>>8262314
no cap fortnite is lit fr fr

>> No.8262348

>>8262140
good games despite some pet peeves
at least they inspire some cool mods and not saying this as if it were the sole justification for their existence

>> No.8262423

Still can't believe Nash took down the Nashgore github page without releasing a version with better blood colors. I'm glad I downloaded it a week before he took it down.

>> No.8262434

any wads that used a split sea like moses as a concept for a map?

>> No.8262447

>>8261695
I just want to play it, dude.

>> No.8262450

>>8262192
>If an enemy recovers from being staggered, you have to sink even more ammo into them to stagger them again
What? No, they only stagger one, and die outright if you shoot them again.

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>> No.8262487

>>8262447
GZDoom's fine for that then.

>> No.8262494

>>8261212
Love how snappy die Luger ist, the hammer/firing animation on the lever shotty is lovely, don't have any complaints about the subgun.

Issues I noticed were how you really don't see the lever being operated. If you know what it's supposed to be, it's ok, but otherwise it's not that easy to identify. Also, the muzzle flash is really tiny and short compared to the other guns. The pickup sprite has this weird hump on the back of the grip, I think this can also be smoothed out easily.
The SSG's reloading animation is pretty long, but with the same speed as the original's it looks like sped up, I found it a bit awkward.
Also, the ammo icon for the subgun is the same as the Luger's.
The shotguns sound like cannons, which is a little bit too much for my tastes.

I got an error message when trying to load the wad in GZD 4.4.2, if you put

[enu default]

as the first line in the language lump, it will load (and the pickup messages work).

>> No.8262498

>>8261556
Have no time for testing now, will report back tomorrow or so. Don't think you're forgotten.

>> No.8262510

>>8261158
>I'm not even asking to have her naked

Anon never give an inch to the puritan madness and just embrace the coom. The uncomfortable fake attitude people have today for the male teen audience of the late 90s is more cringe than the in inherent fan service of it.

>> No.8262513

>>8261212
Why does everything swap so quickly?

>> No.8262518

>>8262510
Scantily clad is better than outright naked.

>> No.8262523

>>8262518
Yeah of course but the way the anon said it is like" lets just cover up and remove ass and tits as much as possible " like everybody does these days.

>> No.8262526

>>8261158
at the same time, i can see someone fuck this up
when a western indie game does sexy designs, they can still feel bland and sometimes do it because "we're not like those sjw'" when japanese games do it so often, it becomes too traditional, therefore they put more effort into these designs
specially in fighting games
at least skullgirls and shantae have memorable designs for western games
but like, write a character before adding a sexy design that also has more elements to talk about
think of a gimmick
why some female indie fps characters suffer isn't because they're not sexy but because ion fury shelly and the ones in selaco and supplice seem to have the same "source of influence", making the orc futa look more novel in comparison
likewise, i wish term's demonsteele and that one robot girl mod were extended as standalone games
plus a lot of 90/80's throwback media either feels ironic or points at specific trends and concepts
specially the blue and purple/sunset/vhs/grid/vaporware/kung fury aesthetic
there's like so many good 80's movies that not song makes me thing that was the main 80's look
i feel like one way to truly embrace older aesthetics is to truly contrast current ones like making "goofy looking monsters" to contrast overdetailed moba designs

>> No.8262534
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>>8262494
>Issues I noticed were how you really don't see the lever being operated
I know, I figure it's probably barely visible in some screen sizes, but it's what I could come up with. The sprites for the shotgun were very much "come up with things as I went"

>muzzleflash
I wanted it to be different from the rest of them.

>The pickup sprite has this weird hump on the back of the grip, I think this can also be smoothed out easily.
That's the remains of the stock, not an unusual style for cut down lever-action guns, it would actually support the bottom of your palm, making it a slightly more comfortable gun to shoot.

>The SSG's reloading animation is pretty long, but with the same speed as the original's it looks like sped up, I found it a bit awkward.
It is what it is. Blame 2020 me.

>Also, the ammo icon for the subgun is the same as the Luger's.
That's on GzDoom's side, I don't think you'll get that in DSDA or anything once it's implemented.

>The shotguns sound like cannons, which is a little bit too much for my tastes.
Just going by Bobby Prince's ethos, "for a pistol, you sample a shotgun, for a shotgun, you sample a cannon"

>I got an error message when trying to load the wad in GZD 4.4.2, if you put
Yes, that's a goof on my part.

>>8262513
Oh, I must have left that in. I kind of just copied over code from 2048Guns. Adding a 0 duration frame to the raise and lower states makes weapons raise and lower faster, this should work even in DeHacked.

Anyway, that's easily ignored when porting it over.

>> No.8262535
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>>8260248
Censorship has gotten to the point where villains aren't even allowed to be evil anymore. None of these "offensive" things were portrayed in a positive light and were there to hammer in why the antagonists of the mod needed to be defeated.

>> No.8262539

>>8262534
>Just going by Bobby Prince's ethos, "for a pistol, you sample a shotgun, for a shotgun, you sample a cannon"
lmao did he really say that?

>> No.8262540

>>8260248
>The historical correct but anti-semitic content in the World Exhibition in Paris has completely been replaced
...I'll have to google that.

>> No.8262541
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>been playing Combined Arms for days now
>only just found out I can use item while equipping the pistol to do stuff
What the FUCK is that shriek when the monk pounces?

>> No.8262545

>>8262541
You never played Mortal Kombat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mngTCbp5zqE

>> No.8262546

>>8262545
Not big on fighting games.

>> No.8262547

>>8260761
>replaced matt
what did he do

>> No.8262548

>>8262546
Neither am I, but it's still funny as hell.

>> No.8262551

>>8262548
True. Does he even say something, or is it just nonsense, because it sounds like he just goes "ABLUBLABEYIIII".

>> No.8262553
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Is there even a way to get in without grenade jumping?

>> No.8262554
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>>8262551
It's just gibberish. They never took Mortal Kombat too seriously, and I thought it'd be a really funny secret move for the Tech Monk.
Wait til you see the thing for the default Artificer set. The one for Past Linked isn't funny but it's still neat.

>> No.8262556

>>8261178
I mean anywhere's the way to a man's heart if you stab it hard enough.

>> No.8262559

>>8262554
The Artificer has one too? I tried him, didn't seem like he had anything. Be right back.

>> No.8262560

I miss Marisa she made this place much livelier

>> No.8262561

>>8262559
Check his other starting weapon.
and then check it again after picking up a berserk pack

>> No.8262567

>>8261850
does it have any good mods

>> No.8262568
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That's not how staples work...

>> No.8262569

>>8262568
It's fine. Look he's giving a thumbs up and everything.

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>>8261850
DNF will be retro in 5 years

>> No.8262573

>>8261123
Love this guy's arts Quake ones are also good. He also did great job on cortex command, I wish they didnt fuck up that game so badly and actually realized more of his concepts

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I also snuck a dumb secret animation in Combined_Arms Gaiden too.

>> No.8262576

>>8262568
But that's exactly how staples work.
Did you mean:
>That's not how severed limbs work....
?

>> No.8262581

>>8262568
>Ethan Winters was the Combined Arms marine the entire time

>> No.8262584

>>8262568
>>8262576
At least it works. You're really missing the point, guys...

>> No.8262598 [DELETED] 

>>8261850
No, it's not.
Retro is a way of doing games, it can't be measured by time. The concept that /vr/ have as a rule is completely wrong.

Post-2000 games are not retro and will never be retro. They have a completely different mentality than the arcade era of the 90's\80's.

>> No.8262608 [DELETED] 

>>8262598
>Retro is a way of doing games, it can't be measured by time.
>Post-2000 games are not retro and will never be retro.
Anon, I....

>> No.8262613 [DELETED] 

>>8262598
Nah it's retro. Rules say so. Suck my cock.

>> No.8262619 [DELETED] 
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>>8262598
They are waiting for you boomer, in the gas chamberrrrrr

>> No.8262623 [DELETED] 

>>8262619
>boomer
He's obviously not a boomer, else he wouldn't consider 3D game "retro".

>> No.8262641 [DELETED] 

>>8262608
He have a good point though.

>> No.8262642
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8262642

Who does he think he is, Venom Snake?

>>8262581
DEEPEST LORE

>> No.8262643 [DELETED] 

>>8262641
He really doesn't.

>> No.8262646 [DELETED] 

>>8262623
Yep, I'm not a boomer. I'm a millenial

> else he wouldn't consider 3D game "retro"
Wat? Are you aware that PSX, N64 and all the 3D games on DOS are pre-2000 right?

>> No.8262652 [DELETED] 

>>8262646
>Wat? Are you aware that PSX, N64 and all the 3D games on DOS are pre-2000 right?
Yes??? They're not retro. And it's a less arbitrary cutoff than " year 2000".

>> No.8262656 [DELETED] 

>>8262652
>They're not retro
Yes their're are.

>> No.8262659 [DELETED] 

>[Deleted]
Ah, it feels good to be back to /vr/

>> No.8262662 [DELETED] 

>>8262652
It's not arbitrary., that's the decade where the arcade lost the race against consoles. There's a clear shift in 2000: the focus got entirely on realistic, narrative-driven games with a relatively linear experience. I'm not saying this is a "bad thing", I'm just saying they are not retro.

>> No.8262668 [DELETED] 

>>8262652
It's not arbitrary. That's the decade where the arcade lost the race against consoles. There's a clear shift in 2000: the focus got entirely on realistic, narrative-driven games with a relatively linear experience. I'm not saying this is a "bad thing", I'm just saying they are not retro.

>> No.8262682
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>>8260894
You weren't kidding

>> No.8262695

Hey apocalypse difficult is really insane but kinda fun in ashes. Nice.

A little bit more ammo is fun. If the trade is dying fast.

>> No.8262698

Tried Arthurian Legends. It's really fun, but it's hard.
Ion Fury is also plenty fun, but feels closer to Blood with hitscan enemies packing a wallop.
Blood 2 is meh.
Is Halo worth playing?

>> No.8262701

>>8262698
I enjoy the first one.

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Drugs and Dragons people

>>8262698
once

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>>8262698
>Ion Fury
You mean the game made by devs that lashed out at their customers who called them out for siding with the white-supremacist/pedophile-apologist website ResetERA? Doom is a nazi-free community.

>> No.8262706

>>8262701
Mmm. I avoided the hell out of Halo because I really hated the whole "only two weapons", but honestly, I had fun with F.E.A.R. and Singularity, even if limiting weapons meant that I did most of the games with an assault rifle and a shotgun, and little else.

>>8262702
Okay.

>>8262705
Seems based to me.

>> No.8262709

>>8262698
>but it's hard
not hard at all. With ranged enemies - snipe them with axes/crossbows/spells. If can't, use shield to get up close, use club.
Spitting spiders - use fire bombs.
Melee enemies - backpedal and attack the moment they come close. Works every time. When there are many or in combination with ranged - kite them.
Flying bitches - use spells

>> No.8262713

>>8262698
>Halo
It's really linear, and you make a return trip to the first 4 maps in the last third of the game, albeit with different enemies.
The rest are unremarkable.

>> No.8262716

>>8262709
I dunno, I tried that, enemies destroy my shield instantly. Seem like caltrops or bear traps are the only reliable way to kill knights, but the flying enemies are the real annoyances.

>>8262713
Dammit. Are the weapons fun to use, at least, or should I return to Space Marines for the pleasure of blowing up aliens?

>> No.8262727

>>8262716
autorun keeps geting disabled on its own. Use manual run. The difference is not drastic, but it matters for hit and run tactics/

>> No.8262729

>>8262716
More than the later games, I think. But higher difficulties expect you to use their plasma vs shields and bullets vs health system.

>> No.8262746

>>8262727
I'm realizing just now that I never run in Arthurian Legends.

>>8262729
Sounds actually fun. I think the lastest DOOM had something similar where you use energy weapons against shields. I found that pretty interesting.

>> No.8262752

>>8262746
By all means, pick it up and try out the first few levels. It's incredibly easy to pirate.
Just wanted to let you know what you're getting into.

>> No.8262754

>>8262752
Am I better off playing the second or third games?

>> No.8262758

>>8262754
I think the quality only goes down. Those ones are much more focused on "epic" setpieces and storylines. Halo 1, while it has cutscenes and story, mostly bookend levels.

>> No.8262759

>>8262758
Mmm. Oh well, I have quite the backlog anyway, so Halo can wait until I finished all my current games. And then play Arthurian legends in hard mode.

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GOOD MORNING MOTHERFUCKERS, IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN. WHAT'VE YOU BEEN WORKING ON? MAPS, MODS, SPRITES? NOW'S A GOOD TIME TO POST THAT SHIT.

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>>8262778
I didn't do anything new, was tweaking already existing map.

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>>8259687
Back when the kex release of Quake got released some anon was posting webms of them editing the textures of some enemies to add more blood, using Substance or Armor Paint, with the tools seeming to work fairly well with low res textures.
Are there any guides out there on how to use those programs for that? All I can find are guides about modern resolutions since this is a niche application and the only other person using Substance for these resultion that I know of is/was circumsoldat.

>> No.8262919

>>8262830
on that note were the models ported back to QSS?

>> No.8262959

>>8262423
Why'd he do that?

>> No.8262961

Why does prboom+ have glitches skybox when I play a megawad

>> No.8262963
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I fucking know what's wrong with this engine and its performance.
It's fucking grid-tile based, but the grid is 3D. Kinda like System Shock 1, or rather tombrader, jus the grid is a bit more dense.
Everything except items are on a grid.
And each piece of a grid is always rendering as a 12-polygon cube at all times, even if they are within a wall.
There are some bugs that allow clipping your head through for a few moments, and then you notice the structure of stuff, in a way very similar to Minecraft, yet somehow worse coded.
This could have literally been made a minecraft mod and it would've run better.

>> No.8263004

>>8262963
>And each piece of a grid is always rendering as a 12-polygon cube at all times, even if they are within a wall.
This is pants on head retarded.

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>>8262963
>And each piece of a grid is always rendering as a 12-polygon cube at all times, even if they are within a wall.
why

>> No.8263089

Like, wouldn't it be a REALLY basic step to do some rendering culling of gridblocks which straight up aren't visible due to being completely enveloped?

>> No.8263105

>>8262959
>Project relicensing for the new version is in progress, Gtihub repo will be back after the official release of v1.1
Basically, he wants to get the next version done before making the 'source code' public again, but it's been almost 2 years and a lot of improvements haven't seen the light of day

>> No.8263185

>>8263069
because there are people on Steam who claim that stutter is part of the oldschool charm
there are also people who love playing games in 320x180 (not kidding, less than 320x240)
there are also people who love jittery polygons and affine texture warping
and then those people decide to gamedev

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>>8263185
>because there are people on Steam who claim that stutter is part of the oldschool charm

>> No.8263247

>>8263004
doesen't GZDoom does something similar with voxels?

>> No.8263354
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What the best HD texture pack for Brutal Doom / Project Brutality?

>> No.8263367

>>8262963
And there's something wrong with that game's movement. Like, if you run in a diagonal way, you're sometimes "sliding".

>> No.8263370

>>8263354
No much, Gordo.

>> No.8263371

>>8263354
https://www.moddb.com/mods/hoover1979-ultrahd-doom-texture-pack
use this to increase the soulfulness of your screenshot by 50%

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>>8263354

>> No.8263443

>>8262963
even using unity would still be a better choice

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>>8263407
there's nothing wrong with filtering, stop trying to act like you're cool and hip

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>>8263354

>> No.8263526

does anyone remember when superultra64 was making a cyber baron that had energy blades for arms and a screen on the head?
it had a green thing on its head and green blades
thought it was for tango's supercharge

>> No.8263545

Where can I find the battery in Ashes Afterglow? I've already cleared out the flooded district and westside, and I can't seem to proceed on The Gap.

>> No.8263561

>>8262963
Isn't a similar thing why old games like tomb Raider 1 have "solid" polygons?

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>>8263459
Most filters are invariably ugly as fuck and makes the assets look shit. This isn't a meme, this is a common opinion, and you're gonna have to just cope with the fact that people think it's hideous.

>> No.8263612

>>8263459
filtering inadvertedly ruins the picture.
When image is low res, the details are distinct and sharp
Filtering does not add any detail, but it smears the existing ones blurring them together
HD texture packs are also terrible, but for a different reason (usually excessive amount of overdetailing that ruins the image contrast, completely ruining the colors of the scene when viewed from distance)

>> No.8263632

>>8263561
Tomb Raider is a bit different, instead of 3D tiles with 6 sides, it places surfaces on a grid, and thus it does not have any extra polygons it has to render.
This was done for optimisation - since every surface is on a strict grid, their rendering and collisions become much easier to calculate.
AL however is the opposite of "optimised"

>> No.8263638

>>8263612
HD packs, for any game really, not just Doom, could be decent/good in theory, but usually it fails because:
>the geometry the textures get applied to aren't comparably high definition, so the resulting textures look flatter (as in making E1M1 look LESS realistic because the higher definition textures calls attention to just how flat the floor, wall, and switch surfaces are)
>the assets aren't consistent, possibly because of different artists or lack of skill and consistency from the one artist
>cheap shortcuts are taken like using some pre-existing model, using neural upscaling and animation interpolation, etc
>it's only partial (like say, only being done to the wall and floor textures, but not the sprites, so it looks very jarring)
>it has some kind of material sheen shader included that makes every single surface look like it's it coated in glossy plastic and then slathered in a thin layer of sexlube

>> No.8263640

>>8263545
update: I can actually progress through the gap, but it's a nightmare of difficulty. Is the battery to be found here?

>> No.8263675

>>8263632
I meant the monsters in Tomb Raider rather than its level geometry. If you go to the second stage and get all the wolves in one area it lags to shit. The later games don't suffer such an issue.

>> No.8263703

>>8263638
It's a matter of fidelity consistency.
Geometry, terxtures, models and animations must be of compareable fidelity to look good together.
Game devs of the time tried to maintain balance between overall image fidelity and performance, thus all components that go into game visuals must've been on about the same level.
When certain thing is a lot higher fidelity than other, it sticks out like a sore thumb, like when high res textures are stretched over flat walls, or a blocky model.
For it to look good, HD pack must touch on all things textures, level geometry, models, and animations.
And GZDoom 3D models may never look good without altering monster code severely, both in the actor, and within engine.

>> No.8263736

>>8263703
We can all agree that HD interfaces are always good.

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>>8263736
>HD interfaces are always good
>laughs in PRODOOMER's MMORPG cooldown counters, 7 bars, 2 of which do literally nothing, 1 does who knows what, a constant reminder of what level, exp and badge you have, and giant gears of war in your face, among with bloody-screen-so-real

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>>8263736
>>8263749
Dont forget the city hub that is basically giant menu complete with HD char bios and "previously in prodoomer" page for every level (like "Mc has beaten legions and activated X device", or "MC ventured into a cave")

>> No.8263763

What's the best way to play Shadow Warrior?

>> No.8263789

>>8263749
Well yeah, an elaborate mod is going to have a more complex hud, but that's not an HD interface.

>> No.8263792

>>8263749
>>giant gears of war in your face
Wait, that's a face?

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>>8263763
I like VoidSW but Raze and GDX are fine too.

>> No.8263807

>Dario playing Hunted equivalent of Plutonia 2
>41 minutes
heh

>> No.8263814

>>8263763
raze if you hate java
gdx if you hate gzdoom

>> No.8263817

>>8263807
I think that in some ways it misses the point of the original Plutonia, where most maps were generally short. Plutonia 2 has a lot of very large maps, and I love them, but it's pretty different.

>> No.8263825

>>8263792
watch this and weep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ovylA2PlLU

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>>8263792

>> No.8263838

>>8259698
Slayer's Rampage
GZDooM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucwFEl5D6uU

>> No.8263846

>>8263354
Go for Fearrific,Doom 3 or Duke3D textures.
Make the levels have a different feel

>> No.8263847

>>8263825
Uh-h-h... I don't want to watch that. I weep already.
>>8263835
What the... Nope. Just "no".

>> No.8263872

>>8259698
Bloodstain
GzDoom

>> No.8263894
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8263894

>> No.8263917

>>8262698
>Is Halo worth playing?
Yes, if only to see how much influence it's had on everything later than it.

>> No.8263990

>>8263894
octobrain's lost long cousin

>> No.8263993
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8263993

I enjoyed playing Wolf3D and with Spear of Destiny I expected something a little better.
Boy I was wrong,it's even more like a labryinth and from what I heard the other expansions are even worse.

How is the modding scene for this game?

>> No.8264021

>>8263993
not sure but i remember that one aquarius guy making a video called "wolfenstein 3d on crack" and there was a soda machine in a map, that he used for a gag
like stickmen on crack

>> No.8264043

>>8263817
A lot of Plutonia-oriented projects fuck that up. I think part of it is how Go2It basically became the face of Plutonia despite being the super secret map. Combine that with Plutonia's existing reputation for difficulty and overall reverence in the community, and pretty much any public project is doomed to fall victim to magnum opus syndrome.

>> No.8264080

>>8263371
How do you actually get this to work?

>> No.8264090

>>8263993
There's some pretty impressive mods, but the port situation kind of sucks. LZWolf is more or less analogous to ZDoom, but unlike Doom modding, the older days of Wolf3D modding was largely dependent on source edits of Wolf4SDL, so they can't just be plugged into LZWolf without a full-on conversion for its format and scripting.

>> No.8264093

Is Huy Pham still working on DVII?

>> No.8264094

>>8259698
Icarus: Alien Vanguard and JDoom

>> No.8264103

>>8264080
Needs 4.3.3 due to how later versions handle textures.

>> No.8264135

>>8264090
Sounds like a mess.
Recently checked them out and some ended up porting some mapsets for ECWolf.

About LZWolf,never heard of it.Does it fix BJ's animation during the level end screen?

>> No.8264215

>>8264093
How was your coma? Also, no.

>> No.8264252

>>8262778
VR's DOOM modifier will now make the lightning gun with plasma ammo function like a BFG (albeit closer to the Quake 2 incarnation) at the cost of 20 plasma per shot:
https://files.catbox.moe/gmj5c3.mp4

Update with this and many other things later today or tomorrow.

>> No.8264289

>>8264135
I don't know any specifics, but LZWolf is a continuation of ECWolf. Anything made for EC ought to be forwards-compatible.

>> No.8264332

I'm about to finally finish Scythe 2, is Scythe X worth playing despite being unfinished?

>> No.8264359

>>8263993
Wolf3D isn't a terrible game, and there's a handful of decent mods out there
But it's worth saying, there's a reason we're the /doom/ general and not /wolf/.

>> No.8264363

>>8264359
Because Doom has a much bigger and popular modding scene. Even more than Quake and Half Life

>> No.8264364

>>8264363
Exactly.

>> No.8264376

>>8263894
Very interesting design there for the cacodemon. There really ought to be a modded version of Doom 3 that comes with ROE as well as includes at least some elements of BFG edition, especially the checkpoint saves along with the Lost mission level pack.
The best of both versions of Doom 3 basically.

>> No.8264387
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8264387

The whole Blade of Agony fiasco reminded me of that time an artist Akroma made a remix of a New Order song which got taken down because there was an artwork of a nazi girl along with some armored nazi soldiers.
It got reuploaded with another fanart with less visible symbols.
Still it's so fucking dumb that in both cases featured some imagery of the time that were not intended to be celebrated.

Sometimes the world works backwards

>> No.8264394

>>8264376
I wouldn't even mind if this design was its own monsters rather than a Caco.
I still like it.

>> No.8264407

>>8264215
Well, he posted a bunch of updates last year so it's not been that long. Just curious if he cancelled it and I missed the announcement.

>> No.8264413
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8264413

Ah my favourite WW2 weapon,the M-16

>> No.8264418
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8264418

https://www.moddb.com/mods/bloodlines-out-of-the-grave-edition

>> No.8264419

>>8264413
I mean apart from the grenades nothing in this picture is particularly ww2

>> No.8264420
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8264420

>>8264418
I've been duped, japed perhaps, played for a fool even

>> No.8264423

>>8264418
>>8264420
Looks neat. Interest tanks if FS is required.

>> No.8264424

>>8260206
>>8261212
https://files.catbox.moe/8hzghp.wad
>Added the missing line so it boots.
>Tweaked the subgun sound again.
>Tweaked the shotgun pickup line again.
>Corrected credits.

Also I'd like to know if the revised sprite for the drum works and is distinct and visible as the bulletbox pickup.
Otherwise, I can't really think of anything else to do with these.

>> No.8264434
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8264434

>>8263825
>Captcha: 0W0Y4

>> No.8264436

>>8264424
I think the drum looks fine

>> No.8264445

>>8264043
Hence why I think that if we ever do make 94 Protons Of /vr/ (and I really want to do that), we should, if not as a rule, then strongly recommend to try to stay withing 2048x2048 or maybe 3000ish units, or close to it, so maps can stay fast, brief, and arcadey. In fact it's still fine if some maps are bigger, because some Plutonia maps were bigger.

>> No.8264457

>>8264420
SVLLVSS

>> No.8264464

>>8264418
Wow, I completely missed that the reboot actually had a release!
Love the old Bloodlines. Gonna try it on GDX now.

>> No.8264474
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8264474

is he the brendan fraser of gaming?
>worked on a couple of Doom levels
>worked on Beyond Belief, a level pack that was iD-quality released just a few months after the game itself
>hired by Ritual at QuakeCon
>started his professional career working on SiN
>oh fuck SiN was released in a buggy state
>oh fuck Unreal 2 was released to middling reviews
>oh fuck Lair was a complete trainwreck
>oh fuck Star Wars 1313 got shitcanned
>oh fuck Mafia 3 was both buggy and got middling reviews
just one JUST moment after the other, despite a promising start.

>> No.8264480

>>8264474
Did you fucking PhotoShop his eyes to be smaller and not even with a consistent size?

>> No.8264481

>>8259740
Any news from Veronica following the Susie/Isabelle fiasco?

>> No.8264484

>>8264480
no, this is direct from his website
http://www.worch.com/about/

>> No.8264492

>>8264474
Maybe American McGee fits more.
Aside from Alice,none of his other works were successful and he got fucked over by life multiple time as well

>> No.8264609
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8264609

>>8264424
>line
Obviously meant pickup sprite.

>>8264436
Easier to spot in the dark and on the ground and stuff?

>> No.8264617

Guys I need help finding a wad. I only remember this map that looked like a library with lots of barons and knights, mostly tight spaces, with a meeting room that has some flags hanging on the walls.

Any idea?

>> No.8264649
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8264649

>mfw MAP15: Memoris Spiritus
>mfw the midi
>mfw E1M8 and Doom 2 MAP01 bits at the end
A.L.T. remains kino as fuck, hope this keeps up.

>> No.8264652

>Download latest version of Gzdoom
>doesn't allow me to screenshot

What is happening?

>> No.8264660

>>8264617
Eviternity?

>> No.8264706

>>8260206
When's the beta coming out? Not long now till the final release is meant to be out.

>> No.8264725

>>8264660
Not that one but holy crap thanks for mentioning it, looks interesting.

>> No.8264729

>>8264617
It's definitely not it, but check out Archives of the Technomancer from Sunder, cool map

>> No.8264748

>>8264617
Scythe?

>> No.8264758

>>8264617
Monster Condo of Doom 2?

>> No.8264760 [SPOILER] 
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8264760

>>8264706
Hopefully tomorrow, work has been killing me lately.

>> No.8264762

chex quest on switch when?

>> No.8264792

>>8264762
The old or new version? With the former, you can easily port it to the Switch.

>> No.8264798

Ashes Afterglow got a day 1 patch.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=69612&start=450#p1203820

>> No.8264820

>>8264798
I was about to complain that the last level of Lost Civilization being so long was preventing me from starting Ashes ep2, but it looks like it's giving me a chance for the best possible experience. Based, thanks for posting

>> No.8264840

>>8264820
There's also supposed to be a patch for 2063 Enriched coming out soon that adds keyboard controls back to the bike.

>> No.8264847
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8264847

>>8262778
I'm still working on my Brutal Base (Brutalist-Quake 2) singleplayer-map, but it's going really slow.

>> No.8264850
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8264850

>>8264760
Same here. I slept 18 hours last night. My brain just shut itself off. I hate videocalls every day.

>> No.8264851

>>8264729
I didn't play Sunder but I enjoyed watching Decino getting sodomized by that wad.

>> No.8264852

>>8264847

Damn that looks really clean and appealing. I get Halo CE vibes, like Hang em High

>> No.8264858

>>8264748
Not Scythe.

>>8264758
None of the Doom 2 maps either, I checked so many wads already I'm going crazy over this. I should have written this map down, really want to replay it.

>> No.8264870
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8264870

>>8264424
>>8261212
>>8260206
I wasn't quite happy with the lever, so I tweaked it too. It's still subtle and at the bottom of the screen, but it looks more smooth and natural now, less rigid.
https://files.catbox.moe/n1zbvu.wad

Pickup sprite may not get much better than this for the palette.

>> No.8264898

>>8264820
Lost Civilization is better than Ashes though.

>> No.8264921

>>8264898
Ashes 2063 ep1 is the greatest wad I've ever played, but Lost Civilization is amazing too. Love them both.

>> No.8264929

>>8260761
>Wad makes least secret looks

>> No.8264935
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8264935

>>8264418
What in the fuck, this is great. It even makes the "pitchfork" more appealing, wow. It's been out since April but I've only just now heard of it?
>>8264847
Take your time, it'll be great.

>> No.8264938

>>8261074
Wait a minute, is Duke 7'0"?

>> No.8264981

>>8260778
Repost! I missed it somehow.

>> No.8264987

>>8264858
Did the start have a single revenant? Anything monster related that you remember?

>> No.8264991

>>8264847
its continuing to look great, bro. cant wait to play it.

>> No.8264992
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8264992

>>8259691
The Space Pirate has a playable demo now.

https://youtu.be/PfDQNEmf5ek

https://www.bluevertigo.org/thespacepirate

>> No.8265027

Is Complex doom or clusterfuck any fun?

>> No.8265031
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8265031

>>8264992
How long has it been?

>> No.8265037
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8265037

>>8265031
Too long. But I'm happy to see it playable like this. The weapon animations are excellent.
Now Marty and his team just need to finish it.

>> No.8265085

>>8264935
ehh don't get your hopes up yet because I'm playing through this right now and all the maps are the same but with the occasional detail or monster placement change here and there, the custom hud and level intermission from the original are removed, the little whistle in the silent film map is replaced with caleb sarcastically saying "nobody wants to play with me" for whatever reason and there's only 2 new maps neither of which feature the new version of the map 'epidemic' like in the new vs. old picture on the moddb page plus no quality of life changes like labeling doors in the crime scene map or making sure the player doesn't see the edges/out of bounds of the map.

>> No.8265104

>>8265085
oh and also none of the new voxels appear anywhere other than a book that mistakenly overwrites the life leech, no sin campaign for the fourth episode, and the madman sprite still uses the zombie sprites when placed to rise out of the ground

>> No.8265117

>>8264332
>is sunder worth playing despite being unfinished?

>> No.8265127
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8265127

>>8265085
I've never played it before so I won't have that same frame of reference, it'll be a set of levels I've never heard of or played.

>> No.8265153

>>8265127
I highly recommend the original with the sin campaign 4th episode because it's a much better experience, this new version is stinky and the second episode crashes when you beat it, the axe is barely a step up from the pitchfork despite as cool as it looks.

>> No.8265245
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8265245

Did I fuck something up in PRBoom where I can no longer telefrag enemies?

>> No.8265281

>>8265245
There’s probably a compatibility option you flipped without realizing

>> No.8265332

32-bit anon here, I can install Rekkr now. Thank you Revae!

>> No.8265346

Is there any setting or mod to make gzdoom textures look smoother ("cartoony", not blurry)?

>> No.8265353

>>8265332
Hey, tight. Thanks for the heads up.
Its not a great solution. Last time I tried I couldn't build a 32bit exe, so I just fuckin copied the GZDoom one this time. It doesn't matter, functionally, but it's mildly unprofessional. But I'd rather be unprofessional and not dick you over.

>> No.8265376

>>8259687
Quake 2 windows 10, does anyone know how to leave it in fullscreen?

I downloaded it via the gamepass. I don't know if it's a problem with this version

>> No.8265387

>>8265353
What makes it unprofessional if it's functionally the same? You didn't make changes to the engine, right?

>> No.8265396

>>8265387
The program properties are different. Like this is v1.0 of rekkr, but 4.7.1 of GZDoom or whatever... Minor stuff. Icon is different.
The 64 bit version is actually still on 4.6.whatever, but I made sure multiplayer worked in between them.
But 4.7.1 has better support for older hardware so I ought to recompile them anyway.
Either way, I'm glad it downloads for you now.

>> No.8265427

Doom 32x Delta or Resurrection

>> No.8265428

>>8265346
Nevermind I found it (texture options > resize mode: xBRZ > resize multiplier 2x).

>> No.8265440

>>8265353
>>8265396
Although you still can't launch it through Steam, you have to do it from the folder.
Thank you Gabe, very cool!
I don't care cause I just want the up-to-date .wad so that I can run it in Crispy but you might want to make a PSA or something.
Also, is there a way to implement that alternative HUD in other ports? Because it's really nice and I honestly prefer it over the regular status bar.

>> No.8265442

Kek
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hg7O3FunR0c

>> No.8265456
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8265456

What hud do you use with Brutal Doom?

>> No.8265584

>>8265440
>Also, is there a way to implement that alternative HUD in other ports?
I doubt it.
What happens if it's run from steam? Just nothing?

>> No.8265609

I was thinking about creating a Halloween map. Would anyone recommend any sources for textures/sprites that would make the game more "Halloweeny"?

>> No.8265729

I'm playing Quake 1 for the first time, Ep1-3 were fun but I'm finding Ep4 to be on the shitty side,
After I'm done, what are some recommended mods and map-packs?
Are Quake 2 and 3 any good?
And I want to try-out map making and wondered if you guys got any good tips/resources.

>> No.8265741

>>8265729
Quake 2 is a different game with the Quake name (factual) and the general consensus is that it sucks.
Quake 3 is "multiplayer-only", it has a campaign but it's pretty much 1v1s with bots in arenas, the way you'd expect to duel actual players. No monsters to kill or shit like that.
For Q1 mapmaking you're gonna want Trenchbroom and check out dumptruck_ds's tutorials on Youtube that'll give you a headstart on everything you need to know.

>> No.8265747

>>8265741
>general consensus is that it sucks
Loathe

>> No.8265757

>>8265747
To be frank, Quake 2 is honestly quite poop. The original Quake has that gritty gothic/dark sci-fi style that was almost completely butchered out in Quake 2. The game lost its essence.

>> No.8265786

>>8259725
Duke!Extreme and Duke!Zone 2. Rest are just collections of hundreds of shovelware maps. They were included in Killaton Collection at least, but yeah they are pretty much forgotten now. You can still get them from internet and play with Eduke though.

>> No.8265804

>>8260301
Torm didn't change it because of dw opinions. He's afraid of german law, so he censored it. Mod got lot of unwanted attention in germany and Torm could get his whole life ruined, because of that. I don't blame him.

>> No.8265814

>>8265804
>make a mod about nazis
>go to jail
>get harassed for years, fight back against your trolls
>go to jail
germans are retarded

>> No.8265816

>>8260813
It's 5 dollars actually.

Also Supplice and Age Of Hell got their demos released. Both started as doom wads and evolved into stand alone games.

>> No.8265823

>>8265804
>He's afraid of german law, so he censored it.
Except nothing in uncensored BoA was against the law.
Thought police is very powerful, though.

>> No.8265825

>>8265729
Play the mission packs and both machine games expansions. They are all very good. Then play all level packs which come with copper mod, starting from Underdark Overbright. Also you've probably already heard about Arcane Dimensions.

>> No.8265827

>>8265823
I don't know about that, but I was just quoting Torm about his reasons.

>> No.8265830

>>8265757
The only thing wrong with Quake 2 is that it's called Quake.

>> No.8265837

>>8265830
What would you call it instead?

>> No.8265840

>>8265837
soldier of fortune 3

>> No.8265849
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8265849

>>8265840

>> No.8265850
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8265850

Make Turok maps

>> No.8265948

>>8264609
>Easier to spot in the dark and on the ground and stuff?
Yeah, at least I have no problem.

>> No.8265952

>>8265456
Ultimate Doom Visor

>> No.8265954

>>8265757
quake 2 is my favorite quake

>> No.8266004

>>8265837
>Quake 1 is named after the codename of the enemy leader
Obviously it should have been called Makron.

>> No.8266016

>>8266004
>Obviously it should have been called Makron.
Jack? Or Ron? Macaron?

>> No.8266069

>>8265830
The truth. I guess they were like “well it’s another 3D shooter sooo…Quake 2???”
In a way I’m kind of surprised they didn’t just call them all ‘DOOM’, or something like DOOM: Dimensions’.

>> No.8266075

>>8266016
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlW7T0SUH0E

>> No.8266078
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8266078

Setting Doom up like a modern/classic hybrid makes for fun times.

>> No.8266106

>>8266078
>90s style and level design
>modernized/realistic tactical gameplay
Hideous Destructor is really good at realizing this.

>> No.8266171

>>8265729
quake 2 couldve been a great game but it never got tied together due to the dumb AI and meh level design. movement is fun, weapons feel powerful and the enemies are more varied than quake 1, but its too easy and there isnt much to do. if you get bored the mission packs are worthwhile as how they were designed makes for a much more challenging and fun experience with much more challenging enemy placements. but even then they are mixed, as The Reckoning has bullet-spongey enemies and Ground Zero had the fucking turrets.

>> No.8266176

>>8266171
Q2's biggest problem was the slow gameplay. DM had no hype and most players went back to Q1.

>> No.8266197

>>8266176
It seems the speed of their shooters peaked with Quake 1, even the newer Dooms aren’t as snappy as Q1’s combination of quick movement, fast weapon functions, and instant weapon switches.

>> No.8266226

>>8266106
HDest is not "realistic". It's "tacticool".

>> No.8266229

>>8266226
Sure.

>> No.8266271

The demon of Grezzo 2's sequel is out
It went from Skulltag from the previous one to GZDOOM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ4Lu8pBBx0

>> No.8266276
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8266276

>>8266226
Its a shame this sort of experimentation went out of fashion but it might return again in mid tier dev teams.

The mixture of tacticool hard sim elements with fantastic elements is really interesting.


Say, an example, a HD\Trepasser exploration type turok game where you play as a hunter using weapons, physics traps, ambushes to hunt dinosaurs or other monsters. Make it hard as balls with interstin animal\monster ai.

>> No.8266281

>>8266271
*the demo

>> No.8266286

>>8266276
Trespasser was so disappointing. So many good ideas and it just blew them.

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8266289

>>8266276
>depressed coomer rears its head
There's a chance at some goodness. If it's anything like the 90s-shooter revival, this after 90s-shooter revival is going to be similarly filled with filler.

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8266297

>>8265584
You get this nice error message.
And as you can see, the game is perfectly playable. Good performance, nothing strange about it.

>> No.8266301

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IdiknMVYkg

>> No.8266306

>>8266171
>dumb AI
>the way enemies will crouch to avoid your hyperblast, inadvertently becoming easier to shoot
lmao
>then there's hard+ gunners who can lead their grenades
ow
the way expansions improve enemies is fun to see, despite some weirder level design.

>> No.8266335 [DELETED] 

>>8261850
No, it's not.
Retro is a way of doing games, it can't be measured by time. The concept that

/vr/ have as a rule is completely wrong.

Post-2000 games are not retro and will never be retro. They have a completely

different mentality than the arcade era of the 90's\80's.


>>8262652
It's not arbitrary. That's the decade where the arcade lost the race against

consoles. There's a clear shift in the '00: the focus got entirely on

realistic, narrative-driven games with a relatively linear experience. I'm not

saying this is a "bad thing", I'm just saying they are not retro.

>> No.8266337 [DELETED] 

>>8261850
No, it's not. Retro is a way of doing games, it can't be measured by time. The concept that /vr/ have as a rule is completely wrong. Post-2000 games are not retro and will never be retro. They have a completely different mentality than the arcade era of the 90's\80's.

>>8262652
It's not arbitrary. That's the decade where the arcade lost the race against consoles. There's a clear shift in the '00: the focus got entirely on realistic, narrative-driven games with a relatively linear experience. I'm not saying this is a "bad thing", I'm just saying they are not retro.

>> No.8266351

>>8266289
>depressed coomer

I am not depressed anon, In fact I did that daz bimbo Elexis in Vam. In fact I have a newer version. I dont put stuff under the rug.

You know that dinosaur hunting idea does not have to have boobs. I was merely talking about gameplay.

>> No.8266352

>>8266297
Hm... There must be some other area that I have to define a 32bit variant or something.

>> No.8266354 [DELETED] 

>>8266337
Everything in your post is true and it'll fall on deaf ears.

>> No.8266376 [DELETED] 

>>8266337
when people refer to past 2000 retro fps they usually mean shit like postal 2, not hl2

>> No.8266438
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8266438

>>8266351
>I am not depressed anon
It's certainly "whiny" whatever you wanna call it:
>I wish IF Shelly was hotter...
>I wish Eliza had her own game...
>I wish Hunter had her own game...
>I wish I liked Quake 2...
All while in an environment surrounded by some of the most easily modifiable games and engines to get what you wish.

>> No.8266461

>>8259691
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ4Lu8pBBx0

Grezzo Two 2 demo is out.

>> No.8266506 [DELETED] 

>>8266337
>Post-2000 games are not retro and will never be retro. They have a completely different mentality than the arcade era of the 90's\80's.
Your shit take was already shit the last time you posted it and it's shit now.
Are you telling me Perfect Dark is not retro? Or Dino Crisis 2?

> That's the decade where the arcade lost the race against consoles. There's a clear shift in the '00: the focus got entirely on realistic, narrative-driven games with a relatively linear experience.
So arcade games are NOT linear? Stop talking, you clearly are insane.

2000 is a retarded cutoff and no matter how you bitch and moan, it will not change anything about that.

>> No.8266515

>>8266438
What the fuck are you on about anon if just posted a trespasser screenshoot and was talking about gameplay.

>> No.8266516
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8266516

The rock on doomworld

>> No.8266519

>>8266516
why?

>> No.8266527 [DELETED] 

>>8265741
>general consensus
Reddit

>> No.8266528 [DELETED] 

>>8266506
For me and shooters, the cliff is 2004. There would still be some fun honorable mentions at the time and down the line but Doom 3, Half Life 2, and Halo 2 emphasized some weird shooting standards.
>>8266519
Genuinely? Doom movie, you can see the banner in the back.

>> No.8266546

Is there any reason to keep Crispy Doom if I have Woof set-up? They feel the same way and have most of the same features. Woof is even more configurable and has Boom and MBF support.

>> No.8266556
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8266556

>>8265757
>The original Quake has that gritty gothic/dark sci-fi style that was almost completely butchered out in Quake 2. The game lost its essence.
It had a tone and style separate from Quake just like Quake was separate from Doom. I also agree with >>8265830 that a different name would've suited it better.
The style 2 introduced would get confused starting with 4 and ending with Territories.

>> No.8266557
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>>8266527
>general consensus=reddit
Ok retard

>> No.8266620
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8266620

Conceptually, this works. But execution has room for improvement.

>> No.8266637
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8266637

>>8266620
>glitch nazis
When a gremlin just isn't enough

>> No.8266646

>>8264935
>>8265127
lacks wall shading

>> No.8266664
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8266664

>>8266646
I've barely used mapedit but is that what's missing? Something about it seems flat. I ran into this with RATM, too.

>> No.8266685

>>8266646
>>8266664
i think so. doom had automatic wall shading which gave the picture much more depth, but in the build engine its manual.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Fake_contrast

>> No.8266720

>>8266664
where the bottom screen from?

>> No.8266731

Any ashesbros here?
What happens if you give Mojo the Titan stim found in The Gap? I already did that quest with a brute stim.
Is the Cannibal Warlord boss in the Gap unkillable? Is there any reward for killing him other than 100% enemy kill completion?
Where does the Guard Captain disappear to?
After leaving the subway, can you go back later?
I'll answer any of your questions if you have any.

>> No.8266742
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8266742

Gave some of those "HD" skies a try as recommended by that one anon's pack. This one makes me feel weird.
>>8266720
That there's Redneck Rampage.

>> No.8266754

>>8266731
additional questions
Can you access the lost station?
Is there a route from Undercity to The Gap without going through the Flooded District?

>> No.8266783

>>8266556
>First-Person Shooter's path in a nutshell.

>> No.8266784

>>8264252
Here's that update to my clock tower map I promised a while ago. I wanted to get it out earlier but I've been busy and it takes like 4hrs to compile.
Changelog:
-Tweaked some lighting
-Tweaked ammo and health balance
-Fixed the end message sometimes not playing
-Made certain secrets more obvious
https://mega.nz/file/vqQjBQ4C#bqsTaB7Zx_OREaPg9qyYRLcgawwDDVd6SDNfFzuXtQs

>> No.8266795

>>8266784
Oh I also made the end fight a bit faster so people are less likely to have to wait around between phases. And I removed that stupid lava nails jump that I can only make like 1/10th of the time.

>> No.8266849

>>8266620
For some reason this post made me laugh out loud. lol

>> No.8266913

>>8266546
Is vanilla accuracy a selling point for you? If not then you don't really need Crispy or Choco.

>> No.8267039

>>8259687
Are we gonna be getting a Quake 1 Halloween Jam this year?

>> No.8267147

>>8266913
It is, but isn't complevel 2 to 4 basically vanilla?

>> No.8267174
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8267174

>>8260206
https://mega.nz/file/aI0WTYKL#06gih9iMUjqt-2n6UAqkAtqQHc_hgguD3uGEAxcCj-o
Version 3 of Map15
Name: Shadow over Silverspring
Author: Bartekmil
Playtime: 15-20 minutes
MIDI: "Cemetery" from Castlevania Dracula X (there was a complaint about the midi being too loud - Im still looking for a different version of the same track)
wad file name: MAP15_vrspooky_v3.wad
Changelog:
>Tweaked some geometry and decoration things as to not block players anymore
>fixed a softlock
>Changed plasma gun placement and goodies in one secret
>berserk(might change its location in the future, this was a quick add)
>some aesthetical changes
I'm still on the fence on what to do with the secret exit, as one anon pointed it out as too tedious, I'll most likely scrap it for a simpler idea, give me some time for now - I'll most likely be done with it before 29th. Also still have to replace/tweak the midi - anyone knows a simple software for editing midis?

>> No.8267192

>>8266731
>What happens if you give Mojo the Titan stim found in The Gap? I already did that quest with a brute stim.
He slaughters his opponents, says Witness Me, then explodes.
>Is the Cannibal Warlord boss in the Gap unkillable? Is there any reward for killing him other than 100% enemy kill completion?
You can kill him, he's just as tough as when he was the final boss of Ashes 1. There's no reward other than being able to pass through that area without him shooting at you, I think.
>Where does the Guard Captain disappear to?
I didn't even notice he'd vanished. He comes back to apologise after you do a few sidequests.
>After leaving the subway, can you go back later?
No, you go through a few transit maps IIRC it's Leaving Michonne, Escape From Atlanta, The Rink, Badlands South, The Array and then enter the second hub.

>>8266754
>Can you access the lost station?
No, it's just there as a red herring for the secret maps.
>Is there a route from Undercity to The Gap without going through the Flooded District?
I wasn't able to find one, The Gap's only exit is to the Flooded District and Secret Level 1, but that's not particularly well hidden and can be found just by paying attention to the map and seeing a big area open up to explore.

>> No.8267230

>>8266556
Quake 2, Quake 4 and Doom 3 could have shared the same title and nobody would be able to spot the difference. The original Quake never really got a sequel.

>> No.8267252

>>8266784
Very based anon. Thanks.

>> No.8267279

>>8266078
Ugly af

>> No.8267352

>>8267174
>(there was a complaint about the midi being too loud - Im still looking for a different version of the same track)
You could just open it in Anvil Studio and adjust the volume with that. That said, MIDI is ultimately a digital piano reel, people can adjust the volume themselves in options.

>> No.8267389

>>8267230
I’ve only tried the first quarter of it, but Q4 felt a lot more “dark and shiny” like Doom 3 over Q2’s “brown to orange” aesthetic. I wonder if they do that “Strogg chapel” end level any justice.

>> No.8267391

>>8260042
[on MAP01's switches to get the armor]
>Oh no you pressed them in the wrong order
Sandy did you forget they're infinite height, she could've just pressed it where it was and it would've still worked

>> No.8267402
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8267402

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME BITCHES! Tonight we're playing Shotgun Frenzy. Come defend the core or some shit!
Connect with Zandronum:
104.128.49.2:10849
104.128.49.2:10849
104.128.49.2:10849

>> No.8267410

>>8267389
>I wonder if they do that “Strogg chapel” end level any justice.
What Strogg Chapel end level? It's a brawl in the Strogg equivalent of a server room.

>> No.8267516 [DELETED] 

>>8266337
>Retro is a way of doing games
Shut the fuck up already.

>> No.8267526

>>8266297
If you get a sec, try it again. Added 32 bit only launch option. The MPGUI might not start, since I haven't done that yet.
No pressure. Thanks for helping me out with this by the way.

>> No.8267528 [DELETED] 

>>8266337
Is Quake II RTX retro?

>> No.8267554

>>8267526
Actually scratch that. Tried changing the default launch option to "any" cpu architecture instead... WE'LL SEE

>> No.8267558

>>8260632
fighter has the most satisfying weapons but is more difficult because he gets projectiles later
cleric has the worst starting weapon but very good other weapons
mage has a starting wand that isnt fun but can carry you through the game

>> No.8267559
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8267559

Uh, ashesbros??

>> No.8267567

>>8267559
lunchlunch can't keep getting away with it

>> No.8267597

>>8267410
The palace aesthetic in general, it’s quite cool.

>> No.8267604

Finally found all eight secrets on The Rink level.
If you're struggling, I can point out all the ones I remember.
Hardest one for me was the locked bathroom in the lobby. You get there by jumping down from a vent in the walkway above.
There's also secrets in the truck outside (watch out for traps), the room that requires a bronze security key (key is nearby inside a room covered by a false window), there's two secrets in rooms full of pipes you're supposed to jump around, there's nothing in or around the fighting area itself AFAIR but you can get to the bleachers from the elevator, there's a secret in the shopping area on top of a structure, get there by jumping on to a vent from a window, uhh that's all I remember.

>> No.8267612
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8267612

Epic 2 sucks. Go through a door, hitscanners to your sides. Another door, hitscanners to your sides. 25 maps of this annoying shit, and then it turns into a switch hunt (with hitscanners to your sides).

>> No.8267623

>>8267558
Fighter is probably the easiest for a lot of the game because you can just beat the shit out of centaurs and they can't do diddly in return

>> No.8267648

>>8262830
hey. that was me, using Substance Painter.
there's a paid SP filter thingy called Pixel8r. it can kinda do the job, but in the end I made my own version to fix filtering issues. I can post it but not right now. ping me again if I don't post it within a week.
aside from that, I've used the built-in baked lighting filter in SP, the rest isn't different from regular use. I've yet to try Armor Paint for the task.

>> No.8267651

>>8266731
>Is the Cannibal Warlord boss in the Gap unkillable?
No, they put in a way to cheese it too, jump to your left after leaving the pipe, turn to the building and there is another pipe you can jump up in and you can kill him from there.

>> No.8267710

>>8267554
Tried it, Rekkr launches successfully now, and the multiplayer requires 64-bit.
So I guess everything works as expected now.

>> No.8267750

>>8262698
Arthurian Legends is kicking my ass because its running at 15-25 FPS and i cant tell what the fuck is going on.

>> No.8267765

>>8267559
OH FUCK
HE REPLACED THE HITLER TEXTURE AND REVERTED IT BUT FORGOT TO CHANGE THE WALL TEXTURE BACK
N00B MISTAKE MOTHERFUCKER. AIN'T SEEN THAT SHIT SINCE 1997!

>> No.8267770

>>8267710
>and the multiplayer requires 64-bit.
okee okee. does the exe? I don't recall what I compiled it for. It was kinda a mess. But at least the main game launches fine.
Thanks again, I really appreciate it.

>> No.8267778

>>8262963
Its using some special snowflake engine called "001".

>> No.8267795

>>8267778
It's even part of the banner image on 001GC's site.

>> No.8267801

>>8267612
Agreed, I dropped that one on map 8 when there was also some kind of bug involving that drawbridge, but was tempted to quit from the very first level

>> No.8267854

>>8266742
show more, not just looking directly up and with buildings blocking everything

>> No.8267867

>>8265085
Its not actually finished yet, it says "TBD" on the page.

>> No.8267932
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8267932

>ultra-violence
>pistol start
>fast monsters
>100%

I did Knee Deep in the Dead this style, and holy hell it was tough but fun. It actually felt like the box art with just hoards of enemies descending on you. But hitscanners get a bit too dangerous, but it boosted a lot of enemies to be actual threats again. Surprisingly Zombiemen actually were dangerous for once.

Reasonable difficulty:
>imps
>zombiemen
>imp
>spectre

Not reasonable:
>shotgunners
>chaingunners

>> No.8267947
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8267947

>>8267932
KDitD contains the best maps ever made and that's objectively factual.

>> No.8267957

>>8267867
then why is it at 1.5? if it's not finished then it shouldn't be released yet on top of most of base mod being done, shouldn't it be like at 0.8 or 9 or something like that?

>> No.8267974

>>8259687
Newb here, which map editor I should use? The OP seems to suggest DB2, however, I see people suggesting DBX over it.

>> No.8267987

>>8267974
Dbx is a continuation of db2
Ultimate Doom builder is a continuation of GZDoombuilder.

>> No.8268005

>>8267770
Yep, the .exe is 64-bit only.

>> No.8268032

>>8267932
...there are no chaingunners in E1.

>> No.8268058

>>8268032
And that's a good thing!

>> No.8268060
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8268060

>>8267402
That certainly was something. Thanks for joining.

>> No.8268278 [DELETED] 

>>8265741
>>8265757
How to spot
>A butthurt tourist from Quake 1 mapping discord
>thou shall not be named for hating half life
make your choice gentleman, because both are the same sack of shit and the bait is obvious.

>>8267612
try with TC Mods, you will hate it even more.
Again, this was a spawn of (it must be another plutonia and memento mori) mentality of the time

>> No.8268321

>>8268005
Ah. Well. It's superfluous anyway. Just wanted to make something to simplify multiplayer a tad.
I read a while ago that Edward was working on a zdoom no game browser called zdoom online. Essentially a multi user front end. You'd join a lobby, someone would host, number of players would be set to number of people in the lobby... Something like that.
But I guess he never finished it?

>> No.8268325

>>8268321
Mp game*

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>>8266461
>kickstarter

>> No.8268424

why the FUCK is bloodgdx forcing autoaim even when I turn it off? everything i shoot goes toward things left and right of the crosshair ridiculously

>> No.8268464

>>8268424
Are you trying it with flare gun or other guns too?

>> No.8268471

>>8268464
all weapons

>> No.8268542
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8268542

VIOLENT RUMBLE UPDATE:

Doom modifier:
>shotguns will now knock back enemies killed by them
>shells from ammo boxes cut in half
>lightning gun with plasma ammo now functions as a BFG at the cost of 20 plasma (new audio files in sounds/plasma)

Updated the FGD with stuff that has been in progs but experimental or overlooked:
>misc_model visibility can be toggled and has a spawnflags to start as invisible (check your misc_models if you used any... I don't *think* I broke anything but let's make sure)
>trigger_hurt can now be toggled on and off and has a spawnflag that makes it only do damage in the instant it is triggered
>added trigger_detarget which removes targets and/or target names from monsters who touch it (depending on spawnflag)
>added trap_tesla_coil, trap_gods_wrath, and trap_gravity_well from Scourge of Armagon (thought these were included in PD2 but apparently not)
>added item_nsigil (secret level runes, also updated models - pic related)
>specific_enemy string for monsters - makes them attack an entity with a matching targetname (see: Shub's Wager)
>charmed float (0 or 1) for monsters - makes them friendly and follow a player (like Horn of Conjuring)
>not_counted float (0 or 1) for monsters - makes them not count towards a monster count (zombie audience and competing monsters in Shub's Wager)

misc:
>railgun will now always gib any enemy it kills
>added some missing out of ammo messages
>several weapons should now properly attempt to switch ammo types before switching weapon when you run out of ammo
>new button to check how many N-Runes have been collected (impulse 102, default N key with updated quake.rc)
>updated Shub's Wager with some slight balancing changes and an adjustment for misc_model changes (the shit I was doing before was retarded)

I *think* I've remembered everything this time. Please yell if anything is broken.

>> No.8268558
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8268558

Ashesbros, I'm way ahead of this part now. But is there really no other option here but to rocket jump with the flamethrower thing? I thought I read one of the devs say that's not required anywhere in the game, or maybe that's only for progressing the storyline, not secrets?

>> No.8268567

>>8268542
ADDENDUM:
As for release, I believe two anons are working on additional maps. After we get the first of those we will (assuming the second isn't more than a few days behind) vote on the secret level and distribute the runes to unlock it. If you DO NOT want to be in the running for the secret level, you can go ahead and claim a rune (marked 1-6 in the above post). You can place it in your map in front of a locked door or other progress blocker as you see fit. They should trigger things like any other pickup. The particular rune is set by the 'style' key.

Also, I did forget something:
>fixed item_backpack not properly giving rockets or the grapple hook

>> No.8268583

>>8267612
yup. i made it to like map 22 or something and dropped it. legit made me stop playing Doom for months.

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8268643

>>8260206
Yeah, so circumstances are against me and Map 17 just isn't gonna make it, not that it was likely to. Either way I want to apologize for that.
Is there anything else I can contribute until the deadline? I can maybe do some sprites or stuff.

>> No.8268667
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>>8260206

-------- BETA RELEASE --------

Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wvxFRjISEnnPQ6-BEHqoqZhPnAsLlA59/view?usp=sharing

I'm really sorry for the delay, I would prefer not going into details but finally, the fucking beta is here. it's my first time using UMAPINFO so I need playtesters to point out any bugs or to suggest some changes.

>Notorious issues from this Beta

-Old version of the custom guns
-Not tested in GZdoom
-Incomplete graphics and probably older versions of the maps.
(Please, REPOST your last map update here or in the Anchor again)
-Map15 secret exit not tested yet.

>> No.8268706

Bread baking now in progress

>> No.8268716
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For next thread
---HALLOWEEN RESOURCES---

Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rj6Y_0zSj7en_BLkWWd6GOAr2U0W9OKN/view?usp=sharing

>MAP LIST/CLAIMINGS, RESOURCES DOWNLOAD LINKS / MORE INFO. HERE (remove the space):
https://docs.google.com
/spreadsheets/d/1kbnUMRqY6FsUNKRmzpt-QHbXBSXZO44hkubhj6U-qYA/edit#gid=0

>> No.8268723

NEW THREAD
>>8268719
>>8268719
>>8268719