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8247814 No.8247814 [Reply] [Original]

What's the best way to get rid of jailbars on a model 1 genesis? Also, is there some installation service I can pay for? I'm not looking for an RGB mod or anything; I still want to use composite.

>> No.8247941

>>8247814
You have to sacrifice composite to fix the jailbird

>> No.8248248

>>8247814
Model 1 doesn’t need an RGB mod, it’s built in. If you don’t mind me asking, why choose composite over RGB? You’re not one of those Sonic 1 waterfall autists are you?

>> No.8248281

>>8247941
Well shit.

>>8248248
>why choose composite over RGB?
I just like the picture better. It seems not worth the effort and cost if I still have to buy something to convert the signal to analog (Also wouldn't that add input lag?)
I'd use S-video if it was supported.

>> No.8248284

>>8248281
RGB is an analog signal though. You just need the right cord.

>> No.8248305

>>8248284
Ah for some reason I always thought it referred to strictly digital output. I'll look more into this, thanks for the info.

>> No.8248337

What country are you living in? I don't know about the Genesis but I got my N64 RGB modded by a guy who does lots of mods in Kentucky. Cost about 90 bucks all said and done and I got the console back in about 3 weeks.

>> No.8249579

>>8248337
That doesn't sound right. That's too cheap for the high end mod and overpaying for labor if it's the simple mod.

>> No.8249601

>>8247814
Triple Bypass (3BP) is the only way AFAIK, but like >>8247941 said, it would permanently destroy your composite video output. Not a fan of S-Video?

>> No.8249624

>>8248305
That would be digital RGB. Genesis uses analog RGB.

>> No.8249632

>>8247814
Triple bypass. I actually just installed one tonight on my model 2.

>> No.8250761
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8250761

>>8248248
Not that anon but I don’t understand the hate composite gets
If You like the sharper image fine, but I prefer colour blending and subtle softness you get on composite for some consoles
I do wish MD was ever so slightly cleaner though

>> No.8251367
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8251367

>>8247814
I have two model 1 geneses. Jailbars are terrible on both, with the caveat that this ONLY HAPPENS WITH COMPOSITE VIDEO. With RGB the picture is completely flawless.

So really, that's the solution. Use RGB. If you don't have a TV/monitor that can accept RGB, I'd recommend an RGB-to-component transcoder and use component. If that's not an option and you *must* use composite video, you're basically out of luck. Genesis composite is just fucking shit all-around and there's no salvaging it.
That said, there is a way around it. You can use a 32X, which takes RGB through the pass-through cable on the back and has its own composite video encoder that does a better job, with no jailbars. The downside is, well, you need a 32X. And I doubt you want to get one just so you can play genesis games in slightly better composite video quality.

>> No.8251484

>>8251367
>And I doubt you want to get one just so you can play genesis games in slightly better composite video quality.
I might actually, I've been in the market for one since I got my everdrive. I've always wanted to play fart doom on console.
The main caveat for me besides price is the fact that it's so fucking ugly.

>>8249601
>Not a fan of S-Video?
Unfortunately the TV I have only supports composite, and I'm honestly a bit too attached to it to upgrade (Unless someone knows where I can get a good 13" curved screen?). It's a Toshiba MV13L3 I think, in case anyone's wondering.

>> No.8251508

>>8249579
Technically the RGB mod was 80 dollars but I had to pay shipping both ways.

>> No.8251780
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8251780

>>8251367
That looks exceptionally bad compared to mine
Is that normal?

>> No.8251795

>>8251780
Might be the camera exposure, or maybe he edited it to make the artifacts more apparent. Mine looks pretty much exactly what you posted.

>> No.8251802

>>8251780
Not all CRTs are good and neither are all analog cables. /vr/ faggots have forgotten this.

>> No.8251853

It's been a while since I checked but removing C28 on the back of the board fixed jailbars completely for me. Composite may have still worked, I recall testing it and getting a picture, but looking at the schematics it would've caused missing colour on the picture - I don't remember if that was the case and I truly couldn't give a rats ass.

>> No.8251896

>>8251853
Hmm, that’s interesting
I wonder if simply swapping out the crystal oscillator will fix the jailbars

>> No.8251943
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8251943

MEANWHILE, AT RETROARCH FORUMS

>> No.8252576
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8252576

>>8251943
>1599x899
>Not 1600x900

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