/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 4.0 https://rentry.org/6hwzi
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfunv4

VRSKINS 4.1
https://www.mediafire.com/file/urs0pu1uwryuigi/vrskins_v4.1.pk3/file

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8215938
Please use spawnflag 16 for your level exit triggers

/vr/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT
Info here >>8234437

=== NEWS ===
[10-17]Ashes 2063 Episode 2 to be released on 22nd of October(remove this news when its released)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=69612&start=375#p1202447

[10-15]luciusDXL Released Some The Force Engine gameplay for Dark Forces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOnNjCdsswM

[10-11] REKKR: Sunken Land released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1715690/REKKR_Sunken_Land/

[10-09] Temporal Tantrum hotfix
http://drive.google.com/file/d/1xA3xJpDECRW40sq_3YZfqoky9MhDZ87U/view?usp=sharing

[10-08] Dario Casali is playing Doom again
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125038-playing-through-punish2wad-28-years-after-making-it/

[10-07] Aliens Eradication TC 2.0 is out
https://www.moddb.com/mods/aliens-eradication-tc/news/aliens-eradication-tc-20-releajtwpdse

[10-7] Quake steam release update
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2310/view/2943653788150871155

[10-7] Ion Fury updated to 2.0
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/562860/view/3020218154028769491

[10-6] Doom runs on TempleOS
https://itrunsdoom.tumblr.com/post/664254099550863360/templeos-yeah-it-runs-doom-if-you-dont-know

[10-2] Unfinished BURL TUMD build released
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SCj8rKbSg1q34af5Z2RHKUJVKiY4Bnyo/view?usp=sharing

[10-1] Supplice has a demo on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1693280/Supplice/

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=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 4.0 https://rentry.org/6hwzi
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfunv4

VRSKINS 4.1
https://www.mediafire.com/file/urs0pu1uwryuigi/vrskins_v4.1.pk3/file

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8215938
Please use spawnflag 16 for your level exit triggers

/vr/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT
Info here >>8234437

=== NEWS ===
[10-17]Ashes 2063 Episode 2 to be released on 22nd of October(remove this news when its released)
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=69612&start=375#p1202447

[10-15]luciusDXL Released Some The Force Engine gameplay for Dark Forces
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOnNjCdsswM

[10-13]Quakewulf is making another Quake 2 Map with Brutalist art
https://twitter.com/Colonthreee/status/1448404640220000256

[10-11] REKKR: Sunken Land released
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1715690/REKKR_Sunken_Land/

[10-09] Temporal Tantrum hotfix
http://drive.google.com/file/d/1xA3xJpDECRW40sq_3YZfqoky9MhDZ87U/view?usp=sharing

[10-08] Dario Casali is playing Doom again
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125038-playing-through-punish2wad-28-years-after-making-it/

[10-07] Aliens Eradication TC 2.0 is out
https://www.moddb.com/mods/aliens-eradication-tc/news/aliens-eradication-tc-20-releajtwpdse

[10-7] Quake steam release update
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2310/view/2943653788150871155

[10-7] Ion Fury updated to 2.0
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/562860/view/3020218154028769491

[10-6] Doom runs on TempleOS
https://itrunsdoom.tumblr.com/post/664254099550863360/templeos-yeah-it-runs-doom-if-you-dont-know

[10-2] Unfinished BURL TUMD build released
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SCj8rKbSg1q34af5Z2RHKUJVKiY4Bnyo/view?usp=sharing

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Quack

32X Doom is back. https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6269/

Doom rendered by checkboxes
https://healeycodes.com/doom-rendered-via-checkboxes

My laptop is a decade old and I really don't think GZDoom is going to run well on it, the Hedon demo ran like absolute dogshit on it and because lel I know it's never been well optimized. This laptop used to be able to play Metro 2033 back in the day, too.
also
>can't install linux because the amount of configuration needed for this early dual GPU setup is fucking insane

Will PRBoom+ be able to run a decent amount of megawads/mods without melting my fucking machine?

>>8245882
>life worse+
I really don't need this

>>8245946
Use FDWL at 200p or 400p widescreen. It'll run great.

https://youtu.be/L_4MhHAv8h8

>>8245882
>usp=sharing

>>8245765
>quack
>final boss is a sitting duck
Bravo, Id Software

>>8245882
>funny please
>boring fucked

>>8245882
>crazy ability became 4chan

>>8245946
I ran Skulltag/Zandronum on Windows 98 and Windows 2k machines and they ran fine. If you don't need GZDoom's fancy graphical features pr mods you can run a sourceport on a machine two decades old, really.

>>8245395
Repostan' group photo in new thread. Good shitshow tonight boys.

>>8245759
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6269/
this just came out for the 32X version

/vr/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT ANCHOR POST, SEE NEWS POST FOR DETAILS
Get your maps in tonight, stragglers, beta comes out tomorrow.

ayy lads, how would you recommend one get started making maps? Im about to finish plutonia on pistol start uv and while I know its not a big accomplishment in comparison to others, I feel good about it. I want to start being creative with my dooman rather than just consooooming.

>>8246010
read the OP links

>>8246010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIh3EmorY3A&list=PLCE835098C82D8F24
Only real tangible advice I can give is that you should start off with something simple, one mistake I see with a lot of new mappers is they're way too ambitious, making these huge maps that leave behind all the good ideas after the 2 minute mark
just remember to have fun

>>8246010
Start practicing. Intuition is your best guide and you only get that by grinding your maps against feedback.

>>8246028
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCE835098C82D8F24
meant to link the playlist

>>8246006
>tonight
ohh boy i thought i had until tomorrow at 23:59

>>8245953
Nice
how's the compatibility for some of the fancy mods?

>>8245975
Now that I think about it yeah that would probably work out, and there's mountains of old WADs and shit I haven't touched yet anyways

>>8246010
John Romero's Level Design Tips
https://youtu.be/ptHurafdCoQ

Have people playtest your maps for feedback. Until you get good at mapping, don't ignore playtester advice. "The playtester is always right" should be your mentality.
If they're kind enough to give you a demo, it's not a waste of time, you should watch it. People don't play your maps like you expect, especially when you're new to mapping. You'll see where you need to make adjustments based on their playthrough. Maybe they got lost for a long time, or ran out of ammo because where you placed the ammo was obscure. Maybe they found a way to cheese your fights.
Make three practice maps before submitting to a community project. No idea why noobs would want their shitty first map to drag down the quality of a WAD, especially since playtesters are going to be so bogged down teaching you how to do fundamental shit you should already know how to do, that there's no time to refine the actual gameplay or layout.

>>8246006
Map Name: Devil Garden
Author: Anonymous
Playtime: 15 minutes
MIDI: "Moongrains" from Plants vs Zombies

Since this is map 28 I tried to make something pretty difficult and a bit slaughtery. It even might be too hard so your feedback is useful. I included a startup demo to prove I can beat it and I show off the secrets at the end. Freelook will make it look bad in places but it shouldn't break anything gameplay wise.

https://mega.nz/file/im4ySJhB#kny0QOFhWGHWB4EU8bZnVu73Ur6r2Kxi-aG-WE6y-sc

>>8246010
>>8246164
A couple more thoughts...
You are going to play your own map better than anyone because you know exactly where everything is and what traps are coming. So be more generous with your items than what you yourself need. Playtest your map without secrets and without saves. If you're having trouble beating your own map saveless, it's not gonna be remotely fair to expect anyone else to.

>>8246006
UPDATE FOR MAP23: Scared Stiff at King Boner's House of Fisting
Balance changes as well as support for difficulty levels. Check the included txt for specifics, basically the start is much easier now.

Diablo 3D coop is SO FUN

>>8246210
>>8246006
Forgot the link.
https://files.catbox.moe/wdxij1.zip

>>8245946
Can't you use LZDoom? It's designed for weaker computers and still has the massive mod compatibility that GZDoom has.

https://ufile.io/5rc703m0

>>8246245
>LZDoom
holy fuck thank you, I didn't know shit about that

>>8245736
Is it possible to beat Dark Forces with DarkXL or will it stop you from completing the game? DosBox is not working for me at all.

>>8246371
I was completely unable to beat the final level (door glitch in the final boss battle)

>>8246006
Alright listen.
I'll wait your WIP maps until tomorrow at 23:59 PM

in case if you can't/have nothing/don't show up tomorrow you have 24 hrs to send me an e-mail with some explanation showing your interest with the project so I can let you finish your map until 29th. otherwise i'll unclaim these slots and just gonna work with the submitted maps.
>e-mail
vaeros.studio@gmail.com

Also Beta comes out around Wednesday. I have to check out some stuff, maps and graphics yet.

>>8246526
What timezone?

Quake 2 might be the last shooter that I prefer without any texture filtering. Unreal and everything afterwards I play with it on.

>>8246006
here's my map https://files.catbox.moe/k4nda5.wad

>>8246605
I just wish I could get widescreen software without fucked viewmodels

>>8246805
in yamagi try r_gunfov

>>8246526
Is MAP32 submitted? I submitted MAP31 without secret exit because I didn't believe it was. I plan to expand it before 29th to add secret exit if is going to be necessary.

>>8246245
why would you suggest outdated lzdoom when gzdoom already has GLES2?

>>8245759

Golden souls 1 remaster got announced and released https://batandy.itch.io/goldensouls

>>8245946
>>8246245
>>8246262
LzDoom targets older and lower end machines, it was discontinued but its functionality was rolled into the latest versions of GzDoom.

Just use the GLES stuff in new GzDoom.

>>8246006
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Px-cm8N656PE3xsqSk88YEHSMV2bqt0a/view?usp=sharing

Version 2 of MAP26.

Map Name: The Other Dario
Author: Washing Machine Enthusiasts
Playtime: 15-20 mins
MIDI: "Profondo Rosso" by Goblin (MIDI conversion by anonymous)
WAD file name: MAP26_vrspooky_v2.wad

Changelog:
>Fixed nodebuilder errors (hopefully)
>Added difficulty settings
>Added some detailing
>Lowered ceilings in the red area to discourage cacos from flying all over the place
>Added a teleporter next to the red gate that goes back to the red switch
>Added a chaingun to the lowering bridge and replaced boxes of rockets with boxes of ammo to be more suited to fighting skellingtons
>Replaced shotgun ammo in alcoves in the blue room with rocket ammo
>Prevented satyr from using yellow teleporter
>Reconfigured yellow teleporter to chain teleport the player to where they can see the yellow key door
>Added lowering walls around the yellow skull key to prevent sequence breaking
>Added a secret trigger to start crushers to kill the teleporting cyberdemons
>Replaced 4 trap walking rockets in the final area with spectres
>Replaced 2 starting spectres in the final area with ambush walking rockets
>Moved back King Boner in final room to be more of a threat

does the beta ween map submission require the ability to actually finish it?

>>8246605
Q2 needs higher res textures and better details to look like a 1998 game, Unreal has that.
i wish id had released the raw and non compressed textures for the S3 Savage cards.

>>8247437
Does GZDoom still collect telemetry?

>>8247571
why do you ask if you know the answer?

>>8247574
I don't know the answer, that's why I asked.

>>8247593
sure thing you don't

>>8247571
It's opt in. If you have a toaster computer you should opt in to give statistics that there's still people out there using GzDoom on old machines.

>>8246598
EDT (UTC/GMT-4)
>>8246950
Nope.
>>8247531
>does the beta ween map submission require the ability to actually finish it?
Not really but if you want to, go ahead. if not then make sure to put an exit linedef somewhere.

>>8247626
I'll add an extra barn anyway, but depending on whenever MAP32 would turn out, I'll put it to different use.

My fav Dario map is Crossfire from Half-Life, none of that Plutonia stuff

>>8246371
>>8246442
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=390640277

I'm in the mood for Doom RPG mod, with all the abandoned forks and dodgy compatibility I gotta know, what's the best (or at least most stable) way to play it?

My search engine skills are failing me, after searching online for TheCraftyTitan's Doom Hack I've found YouTube comments saying that the beta from April 14th, 2010 (the only one I can find) is not the latest one, do any of you have a more recent build?

>>8246605
I for some reason love thief 1 and 2 without texture filtering as well, even if 2 was made with it in mind.

Dark engine looks fucking great crisp, some resemblance to quake actually.

>>8246950
I'm workin on MAP32. It's ALMOST finished. I gotta crunch hard but it'll ((hopefully)) be worth it, and (((hopefully))) b4 the deadline.

>>8248110
Same here, the textures look too blurry with texture filtering.

>>8246817
Not him, but quake 2 has fucked up first person view model to the point the entire gun clips over 4:3 aspect, railgun and phalanx are notorious for this shit

>>8248258
Yamagi has a few options to mess around with it, I still wish it and KMQ2 had as much choice to mess with it as Quakespasm does for Q1.
>>8248110
Very nice, I've got to try this on my next replay of it.
When I swing over to System Shock 2 and Deus Ex, I prefer the filtering on. Might be something tied to the setting and overall style, but I'm still having a hard time figuring out where my preference comes from.

>>8248272
Yamagi is run by people who instead of innovate the damn engine and fix issues, they keep purist and stagnated, it doesn't help either that DFRetro shilled them, and KMQ2 later cant run Oblivion and other stuff due to the lack of source code and incompatibility, but it has the innovative and advanced stuff thanks to Lazarus, which YQ2 despises it when Q2 supports it since 3.14.

>>8248272
SS2 definitely looks better filtered, there was a dev from Thief saying they specifically went with bold lines to make the von braun more stylized.

It shows, SS2 is a beautiful looking game. Super comfy with the higher res textures.
Thief however kinda benefits from no filtering, especially the first one. It really fits the weird dark grunge steampunk setting like a glove.

Its one of the things I hate about dishonored, it tries to hard to look crazy, while Thief looked kinda off but normal until it looked crazy if that makes sense.

>>8245759
>REKKR: Sunken Land released
so it began, trannies successfully pushed paid mods, im never EVER gonna spend a single dime on a wad, never. I don't pirate, but I will every single paid wad on steam, and I'll play it as it's supposed to, for free, as I always did in the past, nothing's changed, my conscience is clear

>>8248342
I legitimately don't understand the hype for it, I tried it and its pretty fucking dumb game.

Hedon is gross but at least it has effort.

>>8248352
hedon is different enough I guess, yeah

>successfully pushed paid mods
Remember to hide and redirect /b/-tier trollposts back to where they belong.

>>8248415
Wasn't master levels also sold for money? That's a better example desu, or worse depending on how you look at it

>>8248426
It's kind of a weird thing to talk about in general, especially for Rekkr which has been out for a few years already.

>>8248415
shall someone show the cd's full of sold wads?

>>8248459

>>8246018
>>8246028
>>8246029
>>8246164
>>8246185
Thank you so much anons. I appreciate it.

>>8248476
/thread

>>8248342
I bought it on Steam and I'll buy it on GOG too if it ends up on there.

>>8248352
>>8248381
hedon is terrible

>>8248342
Revae here, I'm going to break into your house and steal 5 dollars. Deal with that when you fruitlessly search your pockets for change next time you go to buy a bag or Doritos.

in quake 2, do the stroggs have any main alien species behind the cyborgs or is it mostly a mystery, so you only fight the creations they made using other species like humans?
are they like if the only enemies in doom were possessed humans, so you never witness the true demons behind them?

>>8248558
How so?

>>8248352
it's the only wad that can challenge sigil's claims to the throne

>>8246212
that looks fucking awesome

I fucking love caco clouds
great to look at
great to kill
I just FUCKING LOVE them

>>8246006
https://mega.nz/file/bUtmFbIB#IjVj4uH5Ed0zxNe9Cl8biWGUqq9TWNmWiV1d5FpRK7Q

Version 2 of Map15
Name: Shadow over Silverspring
Author: Bartekmil
Playtime: 15-20 minutes
MIDI: "Cemetery" from Castlevania Dracula X (there was a complaint about the midi being too loud - Im still looking for a different version of the same track)
wad file name: MAP15_vrspooky_v2.wad
Changelog:
>Finally added the secret exit and some secrets, if you've tested the secretless map before I can give you a hint: The orange pentagrams should make you look around for ways to activate it and if that is not enough look behind church windows
>Fixed the visual glitch in the garden cloister and some unalligned textures, there still maybe more so I'll be thankful for feedback
>Changed some encounters like the cloister and the penultimate hallway to prevent cheesing through them and, I hope, make them more fun. Still not sure how to fix the red skull dungeon beyond giving you an incentive to pick up SSG before attacking the archie and giving a chainsaw
There's probably still a lot of polishing to do, so let me know how I fucked up

>>8248602
The most you get at the end is finding out the Strogg leader is a brainjar with a robot suit.

>>8248602
From what little I've cared to peek into, it seems the Strogg are just an amalgamate of various humanoid species unified under the idea of chopping their hands off and replacing them with machineguns

How do I lauch up a wad with doom4vanilla in boom

>>8248686
Have you tried dragging and dropping it?
Or, I suppose, since it seems to be Doom 2 format, drop it into boom's folder and create a shortcut for your boom executable and add "-file doom4vanilla.wad -complevel 2" (Replace file argument with actual name)

>>8246006
>>8248660
FUCKKKKK
I forgot to remove one boner
https://mega.nz/file/7ZNVQQQR#en79rUuEEkSkoiMM4yXQCwdNOGr44rs07itXMf9_x_8
here's MAP15_vrspooky_v2.5.wad

>>8248686
make a shortcut and add
-iwad doom2.wad -file d4v.wad -deh d4v.deh
this is for PrBoom+/DSDA, if you're talking about OG Boom then I dunno if it's the same

>>8248602
My understanding is that the Strogg are more like a cybernetic system than a species. The system just collects organic beings to use as components.

Maybe the original species that built the system has been long since recycled for Stroyent.

>>8248637
It really is. HIGHLY recommended if you like Diablo and Doom.

>>8248718
If quake 4 expansion had continued on, we would see their origins.
https://imgur.com/a/gQUnZ

>>8248575
steal some better sense of humor too while you're at it, dumbass namefag

>>8248740
goblins, goblins with goggles, goblins with walkers, goblins with walkers and goggles, goblins with walkers and penis guns...
in serious, some of these designs are pretty slick, especially the deformed tank commander things

>>8248740
there's this one recurring design that i wonder if it inspired the carcass in doom eternal

>>8248298
There's absolutely nothing wrong with how Yamagi is being developed. It's essentially just aiming to be a continuation the original engine.

>>8248663
RoboCain?

>>8248786
It's a lumpy, stitched up flesh thing on a mech tripod, I'd bet on it
and some of Eternal's city levels were inspired by concept art done for Call of Doom, which would've been around that same timeframe

What's a good map editor for Doom that's light on resources? I just want to mess around a bit without memory leaks.

>>8248815
Does UDB have memory leaks?

>>8248815
Okuplok

>>8248834
Dunno, I've only used DBX for a bit but the crashes were killing me. I don't really know where to go next. The main ones are DB2, UDB and GZDB, right?

>>8248847
Nice reading comprehension

>>8248815
Sunlust

>>8248852
UDB is most modern. I don't know what system requirements there are.
DB2 is fairly old and deprecated, but still works.

>>8248859
>>8248847
Stop you aren't funny.

>>8248787
and yet the original engine was open for inovation, Yamagi could be Q2's own Quakespasm with expanded limits.

>>8248765
seethe

>>8248875
/v/ is the other way, kid

>>8248867
Combat Shock 2

>>8248852
There's also Eureka and Slade's built in map editor.

>>8248887

>>8248924
How's your halloween map going?

>>8248867
Valiant

>>8248867
hffm

>>8248934
>>8248931
>>8248896
>>8248859
>>8248847
Thanks for giving me the list of maps to avoid, suckers!

>>8248924
i see you're expanding your vocabulary one word at a time

>>8248940
Italo Doom

>ctrl + f "deleted"
>15 results

>>8248958
welcome to DW 2.0, enjoy your stay

Where the FUCK is that RotT remaster
They said it'd come out 2021 and the year's almost over

>>8245736
Now that Doom Sl*yer is in, hopefully this will bring interest to hardcore smashfags to do a cool mod with Doomguy in it.

posting in this general almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter

>>8248708
Hey thanks it worked

>>8248972
At this point I bet they're going to delay it. It's been over a year since the announcement and there hasn't been any news since then. We know it's still in development at least: https://twitter.com/3DRealms/status/1438770374494363658

Personally, I was all but certain that there would be a trailer at Realms Deep back in August, but nope.

>>8248685
Seems like a pretty solid unifying factor, honestly. We should try it irl.

>>8248985
Shoulda been a full fighter instead of the jew mouse advertising shill.

So I tried to showcase Brutal Base in my unreleased WIP (in progress) RTX-mod: Relit & Retextured, in 21:9, and it became a bit of aesthetics overload for me.

>>8249181
I can't believe this is all based on stock textures from Quake 2 (neural upscale here, though).

The joys of silly coop okuplok

>>8249108
SMASH AND BASH

>>8249181
>>8249185
RTX is a good idea but plagued with a garbage source port for single player as base for it, with tons of incompatibilities.

>>8249253
I am aware. It looks ok in screenshots, though.

>>8249258
i know, i wish someone could do a fork of it that doesn't need the RTX triggers to make it work

>>8249226
What server?

>>8249275
The one that has Okuplok and 6 people playing. This is absolute ridiculousness,

>>8249108
>>8248985
Hopefully no.
Getting more retards into the modding community is not a good thing.
Smash Bros fans are some of the worst

>Looking up some Wolfenstein 3D mods or at least based on it
>Find out one which seems promising called Wolfenstein 3D Retold
>It's made by the same creator of the Isabelle companion mod
>Turns out they've been inactive for over a year

Did the whole Isabelle lewd animation,made them leave the internet entirely?

Anyone can suggest some good mods for Hexen?

>>8249341
Diablo 3D
though I guess that's all doom heretic and hexen combined but still real good

Dario Casali just posted a playthrough of Plutonia 2 on DW.

>>8249336
I hope so.

>>8249497
Yeah, he uploaded the first 4 maps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1qCn1keXK4

>>8249336
The fun part is realizing other companion mods could be like this and that the authors are just smart enough not to get the 'safe' version of it mixed with the smut one.

>>8246006
>>8248121
Sneekie Peekie of MAP32, BIG sooprises await the corner. I'm gonna call it a night here though ;)

>>8246006
https://files.catbox.moe/up5f01.zip
MAP06 WIP
Map Name: Beneath Bloodstone
Author: Wolpertinger
Playtime: ? (map unfinished)
MIDI: Nine Inch Nails - Down in it
I currently have half a map. I'm not going to make excuses, but I am going to keep going at it. If the amount of progress I made today is any indication, this will be finished and polished within the next few days. I'll keep posting updates.

>>8249185
>>8249181
lookin good

Coop Strife is fun

>>8246006

https://www.mediafire.com/file/bqrn6lsn9a8iru0/MAP29_vrspooky.wad/file
A heavy work in progress. I think I may just be too slow to complete this thing.
Map Name: Autumn Mausoleum
Playtime estimated: No idea yet.
MIDI: Stalker -- Hexen.

Honestly, I didn't bother claiming a slot, because I'm not certain I have the speed or ability to finish in time.

>>8249763
>Honestly, I didn't bother claiming a slot.
it's fine. but at least it's gonna be a very hard map, right?

>>8249770
It's fairly tame right now with what is there and probably a bit too easy for a near end map. The latter parts I'm trying to plan right now is hopefully going to be way harder. I thought I'd try to make the difficulty gradual, and by mid-way just turns it all the way up.

1. Platoon contains answer to Apocalypse Now: Lunatics Get Shot.
2. Shellshock being based over Evolva being expansion of Eradicator over crowds (quick solo shotgunner, hard, true form of Serious Sam) contains elaboration of answer to Apocalypse Now: Lunatics Get Shot Midday Regardless To Fuck.
3. Haze parodies Angel Devoid in self-expressionary aspect of actual homeless expressing addendum toward Farewell to the King, adjoining previous: I Will Applause With The Trigger.
4. Homefront original well as Spec Ops: The Line are, strictly external information using, perfectly consistent with Haze. Note: Shellshock and Haze both entertained copious Army input. Russian Army Strictly Excluded.
5. Lunatics Simply Seem to Get Fucking Shot.
6. Shellshock and Haze express strictly in the direction of War.
7. Battlefield 2142 is rumored to have had a valid Single Player Campaign which got canned unconditionally due to Operation Flashpoint fanbase uproar think Lads, Russian Army angle general direction regard.
8. External information at a request: Global Operations is no equal of America's Army end of communication. Both conceptualized repairs of Counter-Strike kinaesthetics and onward.
9. Other words, Special Mode or not America's Army is more than a look and feel upgrade over Counter-Strike, which is more of a case Global Operations direction.

10. Electric device called Joystick might have an alternate mode of operation. Which is rotating it 180 degree and operating it offhand, not with the palm but with fingers. The criterion of compatibility is as follows, maximum sensitivity should produce Dead Zone Evaporation bug. Offhand-finger the manner, operates it Just So.
11. One can play Quake 3 Arena the botmatch on maximum difficulty using twoanalogue, offhand to hitchlessly glide Without Picking a Box, no jumping lest strictly adequate. That is played in sort of a meditation alike, with machinegun, gliding the levels you know the back of your hand, rethinking them in the back of your mind regardless.
12. Rumors this constitutes valid the playthrough of Quake 3 Arena.
13. Which gets continued canonically in Unreal Tournament 2003, not 2004 how ever.
14. Joystick-reverse complementary For Re Lax is canonically rumors considered Graphic Tablet In Touch. Criterion, in Windows part sensitivity-concerned (mouse), there is That One Sensitivity Mark, seventh counting from one from the left if I am not in mistake, producing raw input OS concerned. It Should Be Just Right Zero Accelerated.
15. Joystick-reverse-maxsense + Graphic-Tabled-Touch-7 this seems to converge to.
16. America's Army is, rumors first and foremost, Single Player Botmatch contextualizing an actual undercurrent in Quake 3 Arena Played So disclosing its origins. As such it veers off Quake 3 Arena in the direction of complete independence of Unreal Tournament 2003, mutually compatible both, both Single Player Botmatches.
17. Other Words, UT2003 is Q3A-2, A'sA is Q3A-0.
18. Rumors, Battlefield 2142's Single Player Campaign got canned was essentially Q3A-0-2 disclosing the origins of UT2003's botmatch addendum to ward Q3A.
19. Nevermind.
20. Shellshock and Haze complement in essention.
21. Nevermind in general.

>>8246006
OK, The deadline has passed.

i've only got 3 WIP maps (4 to be exact because of Map32's anon) not bad but not good either. I expected worse desu... At least we're almost at 20 (We have 19 (planned) maps in total so far)

So what the hell happened to the 11 taken slots? MIA? giving up or some shit?

If you're one of them and want to continue collaborating on this project, you have 24 hrs from now to send me an e-mail at vaeros.studio@gmail.com, or you're fired.

I wanted to make a spook map, but ive been too fucking tired and busy to work on it, good luck boys

>>8249905
Rest well and sleep tight, anon. Have pleasant dreams.

>>8249892
P.S. Evil Islands portrays Russian Army Deserter.
Soulbringer portrays Englishman Dominator Striking The Right.

>>8249952
P.P.S. External Information: True Mirror's Edge.
Nevermind, Farewell.

>>8249995
P.P.P.S. Neotokyo complements Mirror's Edge over BF2142, depicting Yamakasi essentially modern Africanig. These are the third ones.
Global Operations continues Re-Volt that being Dreamweb-oid. Pixels on the screen might as well just be pleasant.
Unknown direction: max-7 Never mind as well.
Nevermind.

>>8250029
P.P.P.P.S. Finally.

Opinion from a Russian-speaking among other a country. Killzone Shadow Fall did NOT have ANY access to Bombass engineering if any and did NO prophesizing ESSENTIALLY on its part.
Bombass, external lead using, DIFFERS from KSF in being it so that skin is literally dirt so that the pumice won't help, they simply like it. They abhor doing clean it should rip those people.
Engineering-regard, final days of Dignity's Maidan being active reminded me heavily of the Bombass escalation dynamics pre Slavyansk exoduss. Someone was clearly having a gig.
The character of that gig was too miniscule for the human matter at active in Bombass which was a gradient from over yonder means Russian, spilling forth, like that piss, flowing where it might. Differing locale to locale somewhat subtly. In other words, Bombass crowd combative was Russian Army's sort of a relative dear to heart. These be dangerous people they can be rocket. Those were more of a maniac making use of mutual understanding. Actual you know stalker alike. Writing LERA with a stain just below. Haven't ever greeted that LERA in life. Just so she passes.
You see it's convenient not to be looked from above.
That is Bombass.
Someone Dirtying Hands. With a cock and beyond. Very imposing.
Someone other just didn't mingle on that. Now. That afore mentioned is absent from Killzone Shadow Fall In Entirety.
What IS present is Modern Conflict Engineering which is newspapers stitched...

>>8250105
...You find Every Fucking Dossier and that drivel starts slowly stitching together until you remember that bit with a star beyond the derelict station the area it takes on a screen
it having melted parts of the station through windows 5 gameplay minutes ago.
The game is someone's delusion. Depicting delusional fuckfaces as System. Think Fail Safe.
That System killed one de facto Escaping that System Not Realizing Escape Was Taking Its Place. Hellgastia was survivable. There were traces of homes. There was a fuckface however, that was the answer, it failed.
Getting a shot at that fuckface she clicked back into System having taken the note. Fucking Dead.
Again, this is pointless, game ultimately falling apart telling, this is a retell. Distorted by halfwits bravading agendas. What did the person stating that misrepresent not distinguishing vitals? Completely Unknown Subjectively.

External Information: Milestone over Long Story multimediat Dreamweb Amiga: Pixels on the screen.

Not being there is Ruins of Myth Drannor speaking.

Minus Ruins of Myth Drannor, both Dreamweb-oids, Killzone Shadow Fall falls short compared to R o M D.

Towards Haze: How Dare You Judge Them!!

Why I Would Never.

Completely Haze-incompatible.
RoMD is. Nevermind.

Dario answered some questions on Doomworld, the only noteworthy one is
>I think if I came back to Doom mapping I'd revisit the 90's style and scale of maps but who knows?
In his youtube vids he replied to BigMacDavis that he watched his videos, with him and Decino I guess he kind of kept up with Doom

Going through A.L.T. Somehow doing the UV-Max saveless pistol start routine in its entirety feels wrong here. Allowing myself a few saves here and there.
I'm at map 08, this has been... interesting so far. I enjoy the departure from the "normal" Doom stuff. You could say my Life is undergoing a bit of a Transformation.

>>8249497
literally who?

>>8250259
Half of half of Final DOOM

>>8250259
the guy that created duke nukem

>novelisation of Heretic
yes or no?

https://twitter.com/tweet2doom

Twitterbot that plays Doom

>>8250356
How about... Why? I mean, it can be good and I would be personally interested in some expanded Heretic/Hexen lore, but how you would go on with extending it for a novel?
TFW I actually had some ideas for how the series could've been continued... Yeah, these questions are rather hypocritical.

>>8248985
keep the pedos out of the greatest modding scene of all time
you know it says a lot when they care more about digestable content like drawings and memes than playable things that keep games alive and are secondary proof
doomguy is too good for smash, which does not apply to shantae or geno

Do Heretic 2 and Hexen 2 have any interesting gameplay mechanics or features to warrant a MetaRaven mod?

>>8250509
Who's the third high-contrast guy from the right, and where is he from?

>>8250518
meant to be for >>8250516

Just beat Ultimate Doom on nightmare for the first time, and am half way through Doom 2 on nightmare. Honestly when I first tried nightmare I thought it’d get tedious after awhile but I had lots of fun because I approached it like a puzzle.

I can’t wait to go through 2 decades worth of WADs over the next couple of years. What are some ones you guys recommend?

>>8250507
A lot of 90's non literay media had some pretty WTF novelisations.
I've had this idea stuck in my head for quite a while, and the main gist of it is kind of a "bootleg Heretic" novel - everything is recogniseably Heretic, but different enough not to get copyright striked (protagonist is still an elf named Corvus, to maintain connection with original)
With items and weapons having familiar function, yet different form - for example "Phoenix Rod" becomes a Bow (because he's an elf after all), enchanted by the Phoenix spirit Corvus meets along his journey, Mystic Urn contains ashes of said phoenix and has regenerative properties, Tome of Power becomes "Soul Tome" that feeds on the souls of his enemies to empower him, and so on.

In the world of Porthal, Sidhe people do not die of old age - when they grow tired of like and start looking their age, they fall into a magical slumber of "renewal", and are placed along with things they made themselves within "renewal chambers" which other races would call "crypts", as they can not discern between slumbering sidhe and a dead one since they cant feel life as sidhe do. After a dosen centuries or so sidhe awaken, former life a distant dream, their will to live renewed, and their skills quickly returning to them, they are met by their bretheren and live on.

Anyone know how to fix transparent waterfall in Tears of the False God from Arcane Dimensions not rendering properly on FTEQW? Inb4 use Quakespasm.

>>8250553
Corvus however wakes up without the meeting party, his posessions stolen, and someone rummaging through the chambers, plundering the riches and draging his sleeping brothers and sisters away. Thus he meets the "Tormented" - horrific undead abominations with souls bound to twisted bodies so they could feel pain even in death, and finds his land conquered and devastated by the "Lord of Despair" that claims to be a God and uses the pain of the Tormented to fuel his dark powers. Every sidhe that was found was sacrificed in the grim rituals, and most members of lesser races are either turned into Tormented power supply, or gruesomly altered beyond recognition to serve a purpose in the forces of Despair.

Corvus denounces said god, and sets out to free the Tormented (by killing them all), destroy Lord of Despair, and save his people, regardless of how few of them remained.

In the distant worlds of the Grim Dark Fantasy, there's only Despair.

>>8250518
main character from zpc
https://www.spriters-resource.com/pc_computer/zpc/sheet/139065/

>>8250554
FTEQW cant deal with 8 bit alpha channel

I play hexen2

>>8250571
I played Hexen 2

>>8249341
Hexercise

Some people mentioned that a bunch of MBF21 stuff doesn't work properly in GzDoom. Someone should submit those bugs to their bug report so it can get fixed.

>>8250553
>A lot of 90's non literay media had some pretty WTF novelisations.
I know at least about DOOM and Shadow Warrior. Question is how to make it not "WTF".
>for example "Phoenix Rod" becomes a Bow (because he's an elf after all)
Anon... In Heretic 2, Corvus has a weapon called "Phoenix Bow"... Yup.

>>8250590
I know. That's one of the things to fill the gap between the parts and some inexplicable changes. - like Durnwood staff going from a stick that serves only to annoy enemies, to a Murderstick on Fire (Corvus puts Sabreclaw tail blade on it, then enchants it).

Just finished Spaceship Sadgron. It's always impressive when someone manages to create a completely different look for a game with nothing but stock textures. Using any light that isn't the standard red also helps.

>>8249609
The fact that they could've made more projects with no issues but decided to be horny like the average Animal Crossing fan and left it in the game.
Regardless on how much Doomworld reacted,it was all so fucking stupid

Fuck Doomworld and fuck ZDoom forums. Doomer Boards is the only based doom forum.

>>8250554
VKquake

>>8250636
>Doomer Boards is the only based doom forum.
40oz pls

>>8250171
I stopped at map03 or 04 but from what I managed to get through A.L.T is pretty kino, really puts the stock textures to the extreme and jogs your imagination, gotta finish it some day

>>8250634
>>8249609
>>8249336
Makes me want to make porn companion mod just out of spite

>>8250664
do it

>>8250671
And I make it Lusty Argonian Maid companion, so everyone gets assblasted and goes into anti-furry cringe rage

>>8250664
Jenna Jameson companion mod.

>>8250664
Doesn't that Call of Duty anime Doom mod already have a "girlfriend" companion option?

>>8250682
idk, do they strike lewd poses?

>>8249336
Nope he is still working on it, just that real life is taking a toll on him with the studies and whatnot.

>>8250579
>gzdoom
lol why even bother

About Gzdoom.
I'm trying to get some screenshots but after getting the lastes version (didn't update it in a while) I can't.
But I still get the folder for the screenshots

>>8247334
It's not Golden Souls 3 but I'll take it. Funny thing is there kind of already was a GS1 remaster with the unofficial Super Golden Souls

At the risk of getting face fucked does anyone have a link to the most recent version of REKKR Sunken Land? I hate to pirate but I cannot spare 7bux cdn to buy it atm.

>>8250760
Here Anon, I'll hook you up:
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/s-u/sigil_v1_21

>>8250579
Graf said something to the effect that only the last version fully implements MBF21.

>>8250806
LOL good one

>>8250640
Yep that fixes it but I want FTE's real time lighting not boomer tier prebaked,

>Doom

>>8250878
forgot your basedjak

>>8250579
Mbf21 works like shit in the latest version of Gzdoom because it's still beta.

>>8250760
Give a contact info.

>>8250760
just send a PM to ravae in DW or somewhere and tell him to give you the mod for free and fuck off poorfag

>>8248792
>It's a lumpy, stitched up flesh thing on a mech tripod, I'd bet on it
Makes me realize how close he is to the mancubus, and the cyberdemon, arachnotron, and mastermind are all pretty heavily "cyber augmented".
Thinking about that, there seems to be a thin line between "what is Quake/Q2" and "what is Doom" that got muddied around Doom 3 and Quake 4's time. These guys in particular just seem like demons to me.

>>8250545
Ancient Aliens
Alien Vendetta
Back to Saturn X

>>8250934
No need, Revae reads /vr/

>>8250940
And then there’s this asshole, coming through looking like a shitty Strogg.

>>8250964
tank wheels and bfg sound like cool features for a new demon concept but yeah, he looks too stroggish
though it was also cool getting your bfg from your asshole boss

>>8250918
ha

>>8250934
ah at least one of the responses I expected fair enough I will now fuck off.

>>8250987
If you're too slow it's not my fault.
7JVIZ-CFVGD-RGQFJ

>>8250996
>7JVIZ-CFVGD-RGQFJ
thanks I got it

>>8250996
I am >>8251002 as well
and yes I am the anon that asked for a link dont worry the right person got it, sorry I didnt give contact info but I have trust issues with this place


once again thank you.

>>8250987
>ah at least one of the responses I expected fair enough I will now fuck off.
yeah dude, how someone who wants to play his mod can't even put just fucking 7 bucks to support him, especially when this dude is one of our artists/creators from this board... how embarrasing lmao

>>8251017
Welcome.

>>8251026
You are not wrong it is quite embarrassing.
I hope you have a good day sir.

>>8251027
Still many thanks when I get the money I will gift them a copy of Sunken Land. I will pass your kindness on, thank you.

>>8251037
>>8251027
and by "them" I mean someone else on this board or elsewhere, fucking two thoughts having a crash at once.

>>8250934
>>8250948
I thought about asking him, at least as a joke, but then figured that it would be too shameful. I've already got too many free shit from people in my life and should make sure that I can at least afford stuff on my own or even give back to the world.
>>8251017
Here's a tip for you, poor anon:
If you want to get some freebies from Steam, make sure to wait for sale and preseed with caution to gifting threads on /b/. Aside from some spergy beggars and rare invasion from board's usual inhabitants, those are pretty neat and you can actually get some gifts from there. Just don't be greedy.

>>8251040
Thank you for the advice.

>>8250964
>>8250974
Come to think of it Doom 3 and Quake 4 felt like they swapped some of their designs.

Doom 3 marines look like a redesign of Bitterman armor from Quake 2

Quake 4 marines for classic Doom ones

Which is the best GZDoom version for Ghosted 2? Latest version breaks it.

>>8250723
Because it's one of the most popular ports and it's embarrassing if our maps are straight broken when they don't have to be.

>>8250812
4.7? Supposedly not.

>>8251187
that's the sourceport problem not the maps.
DSDA and Woof works just perfect.

>>8251193
Sure, but I think that the sooner GzDoom can play it, the better.

>>8248660
>>8248702
Here's my specific feedback: Please add a berserk to the start of the map, killing stuff with the shotgun and chaingun exclusively is a real slog. The arachnotron near the blue key card is stuck because he doesn't have enough room to move around and face the player. The final yellow key door can only be used once, so if the player decides to backtrack they will be softlocked. The requirements to get the secret exit are too obscure and tedious, and using instakill floors without any telegraph is a bad practice. It'd be much better if you just replaced the radsuit/invulnerability room with the secret exit room. The plasmagun is kind of poitnless now that you removed the archvile since you get the bfg almost immediately afterwards, but I suppose you had your reasons. Otherwise it was pretty good, looking around for the secret keys was entertaining.

>>8251195
I agree, but it's not really our responsibility.

>>8251203
>>8251195
>>8251187
>>8250812
>>8250579
I'll fucking do it. Anyone who knows, tell me what bugs you've experienced with this project and GzDoom.

>>8251193
Woof is based. You know, it just hit me that I only used an advanced port once in 2021 (to play Heartland). You don't really need to step outside of Fabian's programmatic universe to get the most out of Doom anymore. Crispy and Woof are just the fucking best, with DSDA and UM somewhere in the distance, and then nothing.

>>8251195
so you're asking to downgrade everything from the project just to make it compatible with a beta implementation of mbf21 for gzdoom? bad idea.
graf has one fucking job

>>8251223
>so you're asking to downgrade everything from the project just to make it compatible with a beta implementation of mbf21 for gzdoom
I don't see me making that statement anywhere, I'm not asking anyone to make changes to the project for the sake of GzDoom, I'm asking people to report the bugs found so that they can be fixed, so that GzDoom can eventually properly play the project.

>>8250940
What always separated OG Doom and Quake for me was how the 3D nature of the latter changed the gameplay with new features and limitations (rooms over rooms, fewer monsters with more health, different methods of secrets and traps)
With the modern era and the lack of 90s limitations, the current id software seems to be splitting them up by having one be singleplayer and the other being multiplayer. They'd be competing with themselves a bit otherwise, and they aren't exactly pushing new tech with each release to draw people in.

>>8251223
>graf has one fucking job
What? Bowing to Boom autists?

>>8251201
Oh, and a couple more nitpicks involving movement. There's a few places where you put impassable lines in front of normal geometry for seemingly no reason. Next to that one middle texture chain by the satyr and around the pillars in the mancubus/revenant room. It's very annoying to be running into invisible walls for no reason. There's also a slightly annoying blocking corpse decoration hanging in the supershotgun room. Similar principal.

>>8251287
Compatibility with popular maps and their common formats. GzDoom has its own capabilities for advanced maps, but still what people will play 99 times out of 100 is Vanilla and Boom maps, because it's what people make the most out of.

>latest version of Hideous Destructor removes the "Go Fuck Yourself. -MGMT" message when forcing a used mag into a Z66
soulless

>>8251337
Use one of the Boom ports then, sperg.

>>8251365
What?

>>8251373
Now the gun itself interrupts the legal warning with an error message, instead of the player interrupting the legal warning by telling the gun to go fuck itself.

>>8251375
which STINKS

>>8251365
Idiots on the Discord kept misunderstanding it and asking about who/what was being told to fuck themselves by who. I suppose Matt got tired of seeing it.

>>8251390
He had it coming for using discord 2bh.

AAAAAAAAAAAAGH

>>8251440
Almost as loud as Rich Evans

>>8251390
the epic humor of HD is being erased by these fools, I simply will not tolerate

>>8251434
>>8251390
It's good to know I can just get a bunch of people on Discord to bitch about something I want changed.

>>8251440
ahaha

>>8251390
>>8251458
I wish enough people would bitch at him for a player handedness option rather than tying what hand the revolver draws with to the IWAD you're using, especially since he's now further differentiating Doom/Freedoom with lost souls becoming electric meatballs and shield items in place of spirit armor.

Note to self: Never listen to or even acknowledge discord should I ever make a popular wad.

>>8251458
Sad but true. People who can't identify and avoid sticking their necks in high pressure environments will get worked over every time.

>>8251467
The Liberator now also ejects differently based on the IWAD.
I don't understand why he even began doing the whole Doom/Freedoom split to begin with.

>>8251286
>With the modern era and the lack of 90s limitations, the current id software seems to be splitting them up by having one be singleplayer and the other being multiplayer. They'd be competing with themselves a bit otherwise, and they aren't exactly pushing new tech with each release to draw people in.
I don't think it would be an issue where they'd be competing with themselves, just that nowadays 'Doom' is a much more recognizable and *marketable* name. IdSoft now has several hundred employees to account for that make those kind of decisions riskier.

>>8251492
also, what is this?

>>8251492
Because he prefers Freedoom, and it has certain design differences that warrant different mechanics (Chaingunners wear helmets and don't lose limbs in their death animation, so they have the same armor and incap handling as jackboots and marines).

>>8251501
Check the commented Github issue - he added handling specifically to change how the exit sign on Freedoom Map01 looks, because apparently those guys don't know about the trick to have a ceiling with a different light level from the floor.

lel I was wondering what Erik was doing nowadays since Dario came back, his facebook banner is him as Doomguy fighting viruses
can't put the link hiroshimoot thinks it's spam
uploaded in 2019 too, despite last being active years ago. I guess he still likes it

>>8251501
>>8251506
I think he's referring to the map26 section, honestly I'm curious what that's about, too. In-game, it just summons and kills a bossbrain to end the map as soon as it starts, but the associated text makes it sound like it has something to do with petty chatroom drama.

>>8251506
I get the Freedoom issue, what I want to know is what the Discord raid shit is about

>>8251506
Can you do coop hdest in freedoom?

>>8251536
Yeah, as long as every player is using Freedoom. The process is the same as Doom HDest co-op.

>>8251501
Oh, but you probably meant the other stuff referencing Discord, not the actual additions of the commit. Some idiot kid has apparently made it his life's work to raid and harass the HD server (which doesn't actually belong to Matt, or he'd probably keep it to Discord). The same kid also submitted a map to Freedoom, so Matt put that scripting in to render his map unplayable.

>>8251536
Sure, I don't see why not. You can't mix and match Freedoom and id because of the differences, but otherwise it should work fine.

>>8251550
The mysteries and wonders of community autism. If the kid's map is actually a part of the latest Freedoom release, it seems a bit faggy to catch random people who don't know anything about this into the crossfire, but if it's some kind of pending submission then it's whatever.

>>8251084
The Quake 4 armor I can see working for a 'Doom' game, while the Doom 3 armor is broadly Quake 2 inspired. Not having gloves is pretty big, too.

Now that the dust has settled, is Hedon actually a futa?

>>8251372
Fuck you.

>>8251467
>>8251492
I really hate a lot of developments he's done in general. FreeDoom is lame as fuck in tone and building the lore around that is terrible taste.
Nerfing the Blursphere was fine with me, but the way he just destroyed player movement recently is also terrible taste.

>>8251449
Maybe it could be forked as Classic Destructor or something.

>>8251613
Now there's an idea.

>>8251609
Freedoom has been the focus for years.
>player movement
It's all-around better now than it ever has been. Were you mistaking crutching on the broke-ass fist lunge for actual mastery of movement?

>>8251645
>Freedoom has been the focus for years.
And it was always a bad decision.

>Were you mistaking crutching on the broke-ass fist lunge for actual mastery of movement?
No, I must have been mistaking it for FUN, how silly of me.

>>8251645
Wait what is this blasphemy?

>>8251656
The floaty and lifeless movement which Matt put in the latest version of Hideous Destructor. I have yet to find anyone who likes it.

>>8251660
Oof. Looks like I won't be updating any time soon then.

he amount of gameplay and major rework mods getting dropped itts is ridiculous, I?ll never be able to play them all.

>>8238531
mano give me the sauce

>>8251506
>>8251501
>>8251492
>>8251609
>>8251645
fascinating to see so much freedoom comvo

question tho', isn't the point of freedoom to be identical to doom in gameplay?

>>8251662
Fine, it's alekksandar.

>>8251648
Yeah, as I thought, you can't articulate any meaningful problem with the movement changes. You just don't like them because they are changes. How'd you manage to trap yourself like this? You had to learn so much to get anywhere at all in HD and now you're hung up on minor differences in the movement that barely affect the low end of play and massively benefit the high end.

>>8251656
That's the power of the new reduced gravity, fall damage that scales normally instead of arbitrarily fucking you after a certain hard limit, and the fist lunge as of the last stable release. Platforming on the whole is a lot easier and more consistent than under the old physics, and actual combat dynamics haven't changed at all. Higher bulk is more viable with less time wasted on extra trips, that run was done with an 800 bulk loadout. I haven't even gotten into the shit you can pull with walljumps and really taking advantage of midair crouching.

>>8251685
I prefer my Hdest to work like ghost recon 1, slow tactical methodical. I think I'll turn off all these new changes.

>>8251673
As a project itself, yeah. But a mod like HD introduces mechanics that aren't always compatible with both designs. Lost souls in id will set you on fire when they latch onto you, but Freedoom's new sprites aren't flaming skulls anymore, so they do an electrical attack instead.

>>8251693
but why would you try to latch HD into freedoom?

weird behaviour -should- be expected

>>8251689
Then for that sort of play especially, what's it matter either way? Pie cutting hasn't changed in the slightest.

>>8251698
Because that's the author's own decision, to support Freedoom (and cover himself in the unlikely but not impossible event that Bethesda/Zenimax ever tries to fuck with the mod community).

>>8251705
He made a compatibility patch to freedoom? nice

>>8251685
>fall damage that scales normally instead of arbitrarily fucking you after a certain hard limit,
shitty change desu. past a certain height injury is unavoidable and grave.

>>8251685
has HD completely abandoned the realism-oriented gameplay?

>>8251710
It just works with no extra patch, using filter folders to load different code and assets depending on the IWAD. He's also got ZScript functions that can check for lumps and differentiate accordingly, for things like default pistol handedness or the color of the BFG's dynamic lights.

>>8251714
Yeah, I had noticed that the first fall on erkatane.wad map09 became lethal when it used to be rarely survivable. That map is a total edge case though, the change has made a lot more average drops survivable.

>>8251724
If anything it's doubled down a bit. Gravity was changed specifically to make it more earthlike, because by HD's measurements, vanilla gravity is way excessive. The option for reduced player speeds was also canonized, capping sprint speed to about 30 km/h. Enemies don't just follow primitive and omniscient Doom AI anymore, they can climb and descend walls to chase you and forget about you if you hide and approach from another direction.

Violent Rumble mappers, how are things going?
I think at least one of you mentioned you were updating your map, and I know we're waiting on Analbuttsex II. Was anyone else working on something?
Also, Miasma District and Under Construction still don't have readmes. You don't HAVE to have to one, but you will be credited as anonymous otherwise.

I'd like to get things moving along so we can vote on a secret level, distribute the runes to unlock it, and get the initial release out.

Doom ports started being soulless with the release of the Xbox.
Change my mind.

>>8251736
Isn’t this gravity just controlled with the ‘gravity’ command?
>>8251756
>Doom ports started being soulless with the release of the Xbox.
Not just Doom ports.

>>8251756
I get what you mean, past a certain point there's no excuse for not being 1:1 with the DOS version any more, while objectively better, it's subjectively much less interesting.

>>8251768
He totally redid the entire formula for gravity. You can still fuck with sv_gravity to change its relative intensity to suit your own taste, but a lot of stuff under the hood depends on it and expects the default value.

>>8251739
I'm chugging along with my second map. Don't know when it'll be done, but you said something about releasing VR on other mod sites before Quaddicted, so hopefully I'll have it out in that frame.
Under Construction has been updated with some minor changes, but hasn't been compiled yet. I'll put up a link for it sometime tonight. If you want a readme with any information you think should be included (like secret locations or general info) I can provide, otherwise just mark it as Anonymous.
Also, if you need map source then it can be sent in the zip.

Based Japan ruining the joke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRfKPOSIiwE

>>8251458
You're honestly better off learning how to control and influence these people rather than yell into the void.

>>8251830

>>8251830
Which joke?

>>8251842
>You're honestly better off learning how to control and influence these people rather than yell into the void.
That's what the post is regarding, note the "get a bunch of people" to whine and influence the decision.

>>8251865
https://tcrf.net/Duke_Nukem:_Total_Meltdown#Regional_Differences

>>8249683
Mei, des machsch scho, Bua... und wenn a niad, dann gibts a Watschn, is des kloa?

>>8249897
MAP26 author here - if unclaimed slots are free again, I have an idea for a bossfight map I could put together quickly. Essentially it would be Doom 64's Cat and Mouse but with multiple spider masterminds (and some turreted arachnotrons), using UMAPINFO to end the map when all are killed.

>>8251875
>It's time to -BASH BUTT- and chew bubblegum, and I'm all outta gum

>>8251815
Map source is always nice to have so future Violent Rumble mappers can have examples of how things work, and for working out incompatibilities with future versions of the mod if you're not available. If you include it then any compiler settings you use would be good for a readme.

>>8251875
>your face, your face, whats the difference?
kino
PSX/SAT Duke port worth playing? I only played 64 and I thought it was interesting.
Like the new weapons and saving the babes

>>8251887
Will do.
>future Violent Rumble mappers can have examples of how things work
UC is my second ever Quake map, I think it'll be a good example of how not to do things. I didn't even realize brush faces could have multiple textures until you told me.

>>8249683
Mei, des machsch scho, Bua... und wenn a niad, dann gibts a Watschn, host me?

>>8251739
I was working on a small update to clock tower. Just small fixes I should have it by tomorrow or the day after.

Hmm, should I use Woof! or prboom+ umap for MBF wads?

>>8251736
dunno man,
you say are carrying 60kgs apparel, you are a soldier
fall 2 meters and land on your legs

there's a non-0 chance you WONT walk for the rest of the day.

>>8251875
>Your face, your face, what's the difference?
These edits are hilariously poor.

>>8250947
Thanks, I’m going through all the caco awards to find ones that look good.

>>8251964
I'd play Valiant before Ancient Aliens, it came out first and it's made by the same guy.

>>8245882
>immersive faggots

>>8251945
Woof or DSDA
Doesn't really matter which.

post 90s shooters with a full 3D engine like Quake.

>>8251894
the only thing worth playing from the ps1 version of duke is the unique episode it adds. you can find it on moddb and play it through eduke.
the saturn version of duke 3d while a really good console port at the time is not worth playing in any capacity besides just to see it. it only adds in like one secret level.
that isn't that good anyways. n64 version which you said you played is the best console port to play.

>>8252068

>>8250964
Total Recall was a good movie

>>8251739
https://ufile.io/oporm26m
Here's UC, should be everything needed and some things maybe not needed

>>8252070
I don't get it.

>>8252151
Quake 2's main character after cyborg messed with him

>>8251739
Miasma District anon here, I wanted to finish up one last secret area but had a lot of other stuff happening recently. I'll try to find some time for mapping tomorrow.

>>8252171
Ah, ok. I've never played Quake 2, but I might try it one day.

modern+ breaks the status bar in REKKR. fixed by turning down the scale factor doe

>>8252214
First I've seen that. What's your resolution/aspect ratio? I can't see the properties because I'm phone posting.

>>8251685
HDest is very realistic and challenging, but with the old movement you could do ballsy action movie shit, which if done the right way at the right times could be a real benefit, if you're willing to accept the risk, and if you do the right thing following through. To me that goes well with how in spite of the realistic wound handling and weapon mechanics, you still have wild bullshit like Zerk and outright magic, and the levels are still Doom level design: it's highly realistic yet very fantastical and exaggerated, full of things which could never be IRL, where in spite of realistic wounding mechanics and shooting mechanics, you can play an action hero if you think it's worth the risk.

Think about it: you can roid out and then punch a Cyberdemon in the head until he dies. That makes no sense at all, you'd collapse your arm like an accordion to deliver punches that could do that to a beast that size IRL (it'd be like boxing an elephant), but it can still be done if you dare, and it's cool as fuck if you pull it off.

The new movement and gravity feels lifeless and floaty too, it's supposed to be more realistic gravity, but every single person thinks at first that it's supposed to simulate being in a low gravity environment because of how awkwardly floaty that it is.
Did anyone actually find the fall damage a problem or nuisance in the past?

>>8252305
My normal resolution is 1920x1080 but modern+ makes it 3840x2160.

>>8252171
>Total Re
I love that in quake 2 you're not a hero. They treat you like garbage and the game even lets you kill survivors.

>>8252317
>Did anyone actually find the fall damage a problem or nuisance in the past?
Things like this, the unavoidable fall start of Ashes. You could fix it with console commando'ing in time and the rest of it was fine otherwise.
There'd be some drops made with Doom's no-fall-damage in mind that were a pain. For any real bullshit I'd run into I had gravity keybinds, one to set it low and the other to reset it.
>>8252329
This, Unreal, and Half Life all let you be an asshole and kill people from what I recall.

>>8252331
>You could fix it with console commando'ing in time and the rest of it was fine otherwise.
Seems to me like that conditional thing about HDest not always being fully compatible with every map, so approach them at your own risk, etc. Either way the console solves that problem.

>>8252328
Yeh, I'll look into that. Wonder why it cares. My monitor is only 1600x900, so I can't really on that. I'll just reduce the scale factor and bump the AA then I suppose.
I didn't expect anyone would want to use modern+ anyway. It was kinda a joke.
Though I sorta like the way bloom looks at a low resolution. So who the hell am I to judge.

>>8252362
>really on that
I accidentally the sentence.

>>8252362
I think its funny. Plus I like seeing it ruin the art style of Kekkr. But I have seen people use that filter at least with adventures of square (it doesn't look good though LMAO.)

>>8252317
You do know that you can literally bunnyhop, do some fucking crazy jumps and insanely fast rolls even at high bulk with the new movement?

>>8252331
Well Unreal let you kill the Nali anyway.
In RTNP you can kill humans, but they're enemy combatants.

>finally finished Sonic Mayhem for Q2
Fucking amazing from start to finish with a great ending to seal the deal. I haven't felt this satisfied and fuzzy since I finished a mapset in a long while, and it came from Q2 of all places.

>>8252381
Well if you want any of them to be permanent changes you can type one of these into the console:
"exec p_vintage.ini"
"exec p_vintagep.ini"
"exec p_retro.ini"
"exec p_modern.ini"
"exec p_modernp.ini"
Now you know. GZDoom wouldn't allow those to be executed from the menu for security reasons...

>>8252383
Crouching while jumping extends your airtime, too. Lets you do John Woo action dives, it's sick.

>>8252107
Based.
>>8252178
Alright, no worries.

Is he going to be okay?

is there a way to turn of voxels in nblood? i want to appreciate the sprites outside of editors and without the jank of gdx

>>8252443
Cherish this moment. He doesn't have long.

>>8252443

>>8252409
With these old shooters, level design makes or breaks the game, and stock Quake 2 levels blow chunks. It takes some in-depth knowledge of the enemies, weapons, and mapping features to make SP maps that stand out, and I'd say Quakewulf knows his stuff.

>>8249181
>>8249185
Fucking beautiful

>>8251875
>>8251884
>>8251950
>reverse dick kickem

>>8252535
>With these old shooters, level design makes or breaks the game, and stock Quake 2 levels blow chunks.
There's several backdoors to some stages that I've enjoyed coming across on a replay. They're otherwise unremarkable, brown, and filled with crates until it peaks in the final stretch, and in all areas: Fights, weapons, and level design. I also love the style they pulled off with the 'cyborg palace' near the end.

holy fuck what's with all these ridiculous quality wads being released lately?

i wish the twitch and youtube scenes picked up along with it; i think this stuff deserves lots of exposure. so much talent right now!

>>8251390
Being in the discord, I can say no one at all asked for it to change. It was purely Matt's decision.

>>8252821
I should also mention that Matt left the discord a few days ago. Probably couldn't handle the criticism

>>8252827
He's taking a temporary break so he can work out some big changes without having to deal with people shitting themselves over every individual commit.

>>8252329
>the game even lets you kill survivors.
Those guys beg you for it, anon. That's not being an asshole, that's mercy.

>>8252535
>stock Quake 2 levels blow chunks.
>tfw enjoyed the commercial Q2 family much more than SM
I guess I got filtered by the difficulty, the ammo starvation is too much for me.

>>8252768
Share some examples then.

>>8251492
something about just in case bethesda (at the time anyway) does something with doom wads he won't be one of the first to get fucked

>>8252768
What wads are you referring to? Significant amount of this year releases are Doominati circlejerk garbage and slaughtershit. Only DBPs and /vr/ projects are saving the mapping scene right now.

>>8252924
Eat shit sarais

>>8252924
I assume he means Fractured Worlds and Haste, presumably among other releases I'm not aware of.
Other great mapsets from this year were Bases of Zzul, Heartland and MSCP and all of those are made by "Doominati" or at least Doominati-adjacent.
Why deny the craftsmanship of these projects just because of their popularity?
I map for DBPs and /vr/ projects and I love them but I don't know that I'd say they're "saving the mapping scene right now."

Dario plays without pistol start

>>8253004
Sacrilegious, we should have him killed.

>>8253004
What did you expect? The trap at the end of Hunted should be a giveaway they had continuous play in mind.

>>8252768
I think there was much more quality wads getting released at the start of the year. It has been more silent for a few months. Has there been anything wortwhile after June, except Rekkr Sunken Land and few demos/teasers? I'm not trolling, but seriously asking. Recs are always good.

>>8253109
Ashes 2 comes out on Friday, so there's that.

>>8253109
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125238-judgment-32-map-mbf21-megawad-rc1/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/124790-atmospheric-extinction-a-boom-mapset-now-on-idgames/
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/124893-arceon-boom-compatible-mapset-updated-to-rc3/

>>8252878
>>8253109
Haste
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/124700-haste-%E2%80%93-17-short-challenging-boom-maps-from-difficult-to-slaughter/
fractured worlds
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/125253-fractured-worlds-version-12/

there are also a few other things i'm playing, but these are main interesting ones.

>>8253108
the BFG not appearing until the end of Hunted, when there's nothing left to use it on - aside from the final trap, which you aren't even supposed to win against - is another giveaway

>>8253227
Isn't Haste one of those neon pentagram cacoward baits?

>>8253004
Pistol start is a punishment for dying. Levels were made playable from pistol start in case player dies, but it was never intended way to play.
Your elitist ass may not like it, but it's a fact.

>>8253313
There are cases when it feels one way or another. E3M8 is probably the most obvious example of it being designed with pistol start in mind, bfg two shoots it otherwise and makes it a joke
Other obvious example, map 3 of Doom 2 has groups of enemies you can one shoot with ssg at the start and it feels like they were put that way specifically to show the power of ssg that you brought over from the previous level
I still think Doom 2 is more fun with pistol start but who cares I don't even play iwads without gameplay mods anymore

>>8253306
It's a boom map pack made by slaughter veterans (Ribbiks, Insane_gazebo etc.) and uses vanilla textures. Difficulty is also more casual and maps shorter. So no.

>>8253313
>it was never intended way to play
No, it really was. I think it was Sandy who said that continuous play was an oversight during testing.

>>8253361
Sandy says a lot of idiotic shit

>>8253321
>I don't even play iwads without gameplay mods

>>8253361
>continuous play was an oversight during testing.
>continuing from one level to another is the default operation of the game
Could I interest you in a bridge or two, my good sir?

>>8253367
Yeah, but there's nothing to contradict him on this one either. Did Romero even mention pistol starts?

>>8253390
pretty sure he designed e1m8b with pistol start in mind, you can check his vid on it

>>8253386
Remember how combos got started in SF2? Oversights can be utilized if they result in something the devs like, it doesn't change that these things weren't originally planned for.

>>8253410
Quake, and even Build games, play much better using continuous compared to just being an extra challenge in Doom due to weapon-specific enemies being present (zombies with explosives, etc.), if you needed a BFG to kill a cybie, for example, and the map didn't provide one it wouldn't be fun at all. This is unlike combos in SF which spawned an entire genre of games.

rockbox can play hffm alright - although its too fucking hard to play with no strafing and fatigued buttons, even on Jabroni, it was funny just to see it launch

>>8253474
It can play demos, so I guess that even if its absolute shit to play through anything but E1 from doom you can use it to watch demos

>>8253313
There is an interview where they say they didn't realize you could OHKO the Spider Mastermind with the BFG...

... because there is no BFG in the level. You can get the BFG from the 2nd level of that episode onwards.

The truth is that it is a lot easier to test/balance a level if it is a contained thing. Imagine having to worry about what kind of ammos/weapons/items the player got in the previous level.... When nobody even has the correct level order until very late in dev.

This is true for all old FPS that have "fresh starts". In Rise Of The Triad you even have lives, you die you use a life and restart the level open from a fresh start, and there is usually a weapon or two nearby.

There are some exceptions of course, like the first episode of Blood which is obviously designed for continuous play. Good examples being: the super secret of E1M1 gives a Napalm Launcher... but you can't get to that secret until pretty much all enemies are dead. Then, in E1M2 you can find a lot of flares but no flare gun, not even in secret places. Obviously there was one in E1M1. Fresh start is still doable but harder than intended.
Only the first of Blood is like that though.

There are cases where it is hard to view a level as "intended for pistol start" in this day&age but that's because they had a different take on balacing. These days it is assumed that secret places shouldn't count as part of the balancing; but instead the og Doom 1/2 made SOME of the secrets mandatory if you want to have enough ammo. A good example being E4M2, which has nowhere near enough supplies UNLESS you find the secret places.

>>8253367
That's true, besides he's a liar too.

>>8253621
>E4M2

Sorry I was thinking about E4M4 Unruly Evil, not 2

>>8253630
he just has a fuzzy memory at worst
he's not tim willits who actively tried to sabotage the studio

>>8253629
Wait, what exactly is going on here?
Also
>YOU CHEATED!
lmao

>>8253667
>Wait, what exactly is going on here?

The Lifeleech is being used as a turret

>>YOU CHEATED!

Level warp

>>8253629
Beautiful. Level and port?

>>8253695
>The Lifeleech is being used as a turret
I still don't understand, isn't that its secondary function? What's so special here?

>>8253740
I think it’s getting the big bad locked into a small room with it. Lovely ammo saver.

>>8253367
>guys, the pistol is actually a useful weapon trust me

>guys, the shotgun is actually a useful weapon trust me
Based Sandyboy

>>8252214
>filtering