/vr/ - Retro Games

Some of them look too much like generic anime high schoolers and not street fighters, but they still manage to be "cooler" than Street Fighter designs

The best character designs are those from Fatal Fury, not KoF originals nor SF

>>8227998
>Does anyone else find the kof character designs meh and unappealing?
yeah I guess, they probably look cool if you're 14, at least I thought so back then

>>8228026
I feel they’re trying way too hard to be “cool”. But it just ends up coming off as lame and uninteresting.

>>8228026
I agree, fatal fury, as well as snks other ip’s had way more interesting character design.

>generic anime high schoolers
lol

>>8228039
Someone on here posted a story about the SNK offices where one guy kept free weights in his cubicle and was overheard saying "Oh man I need a pump!'
and starts doing bicep curls in the office.
Funny story but I think maybe you just hate cool people because you're lame

>>8228039
>>8228045
KoF originals are usually designed to be like "fashionable" which is not exactly something you think of when it comes to fighters, characters like Terry Bogard, Yamizaki, etc in Fatal Fury look like they'd fit in a martial arts movie, street ruffians, martial artists, and gangsters, etc, not fashion models

>>8228056
>not fashion models

What? literally just talking about Iori Yagami, why do chads make you people seethe so much? everyone else looks l like a straight up martial artist

>>8228051
I think the sf3 characters are way more interesting and cool. Although they are kinda weird when you’re not acquainted with them.

>>8227998
No, everything in KoF02 is based because I liked playing it as a kid, dropping pesos in the MAMEbox and cracking open an ice cold Fresca while Chaccaron Maccaron is audible in the background through the doorway which only closes through a metal shutter, before getting ass raped by some Mexican kid playing 3 God Rugals
Americans will never truly understand
https://youtu.be/zwqu5XAHRGk

>>8228060
>MAMEbox

Oh wow, so not even a real neogeo? I thought they were all over latin countries

>>8228061
They are. As well as in China. There is still a huge surplus of neo geo 1 slots you can buy, for pretty inexpensively too.

>>8227998
>I have no strong feelings about KOF characters. They're meh.
>I better make a KOF thread

>>8228061
For my specific area, most of the machines I encountered were MAMEbox or possibly hacked Neo Geos or something. There were some real machines out there. Sometimes a machine would look legit and then just be gutted for a MAMEbox. I don't really know how universal any arcade experience would have been across all of Latin America

>>8228058
KoF characters are so designed to be like Jap idols that they made an actual idol group out of the characters lol, you're just delusional. And if they don't have super suave designs like that, they tend to just have bizarre sort of fantasy/anime looks that aren't based in any realistic thing which is fine here and there but isn't as fitting to me in this context.

When I say martial arts designs, I mean characters like Andy and Kim, aka martial arts attire. You don't expect these j pop looking dudes like Iori, Benimaru, Kyo, K', etc to be the guys on the back alleys getting into brawls. Fatal Fury got their non martial arts inspired designs/streetwear designs right to me, characters like Terry, Billy Kane, Duck King, etc look like they represent parts of street fighting culture. Terry looks like your average bar guy stereotype, Billy Kane looks like a street punk, Yamazaki looks like a gangster etc.

>>8228069
every thread /v/ posters make are bait/troll to get replies

>>8228080
This isn’t even meant to be a bait thread. I’m genuinely curious if anyone else feels this way towards kof.

>>8228039
We're talking about SNK characters, not Street Fighter

>>8228103
Street Fighter characters tend to have zero "cool" factor lol, maybe later ones they added in the series, but all the retro ones are cartooned out stereotypes of different cultures

It's just you. They're fine.

>>8228061
I don't know about mexifags but I can describe the small town arcade scene in brazil from 2001-2005 when I was there
Every dingy street corner had a neogeo with some kind of KOF, most common ones were 97 and 98 and later 2002 but I saw each one at some point or another besides 94. Bootlegs started popping up around the 2001 era with stuff like "crouching tiger 2003". Soccer games like Virtua Striker were also very popular.
Other fighting games I played during that time period were SF Zero 3, Tekken 3, SVC Chaos, SFEX 2+, Samurai Spirits 2/3, Garou Mark of the Wolves, Last Blade 2, SF2 (both normal and Rainbow Edition), a nigger-rigged PS1 bootleg of Garou Densetsu Wild Ambition, and Project Justice on the NAOMI. At least some of the Neo Geo games seemed legit (they had the original marquee art anyway.)
As for non fighting games Metal Slug X and 3 were common, I remember 1ccing 4 when it came out, 5 didn't appeal to me that much. I recall 1ccing Raguy (aka Blues Journey) and Top Hunter. There was Puzzle Bobble, Sonic Wings 2 and 3, Pulstar, and assorted novelty crap like Miss World 96 Nude (I think parents might have complained but there was definitely more than one cab of that floating around for a while)
I remember one hole in the wall had Pump It Up OBG (this was before PIU really took off)
One of the bigger malls had more unprofitable games (aka boards that only supported 1 or 2 games) like Scud Race, Daytona USA, a PS1 bootleg of DDR 3rd Mix, Virtua Fighter, Killer Instinct, Time Crisis, etc
The soulless MAMEboxes started popping up around 2004-2005 around the same time as the kof 2002 bootlegs which I immediately hated for ruining the game balance. I left for burgerland around this time. I went back a couple years ago to visit sao paulo, all of the arcades have fallen into complete disrepair even though there is still a good selection of games, I only saw 2 KOF games throughout the whole city and neither of them worked properly. Goodbye childhood.

>>8228147
Oh thanks for your story, for awhile there I would play free to play online games and google translate with Brazilians. They thought I was Portuguese till I said something really weird and got found out. Took longer than I expected

>>8227998
I like some of them, but too many are just forced emo cool.
>oh look at my hair.. and my pose.. i'm looking down, dont mind the weird flaps on the front.. or the fact that i cant see shit because my hair covers 90% of my vision.. oh so dark.. the darkness and the emo and the feuding with the other clan blabla dark powers

Meanwhile Terry's like "HUBBA HUBBA LETS PLAY BASKETBALL"

Japan became weird in the late 90s, too much focus on "le cool emo boy".

I mean, look at that picture.. the only two cool ones are Blue Mary and Billy Kane and they started with Fatal Fury.
the rest are drawn by some artist who was wondering how faggy he could draw these newcomers without people realizing that the good times are over.

>>8228158
>how faggy he could draw these newcomers

I've noticed that sort of thing spikes when young people don't see a future for themselves.
"whelp, might as well be a fag"

>>8228173
rent free

>>8228176
Honestly though, no one likes you people

>>8228189
rent free

>>8228158
Iori was introduced in 95, way before Emo was a big thing.

Are there actually people out there who see a character like this and say "Now that.. is my kinda character!"
Goddamn, I miss the days when they'd just draw ripped ninjas and karate guys.

>>8228206
Looked like him and his group were what? night club people?

>>8228158
>Japan became weird in the late 90s, too much focus on "le cool emo boy".
>the rest are drawn by some artist who was wondering how faggy he could draw these newcomers
Woah friend, your masculinity is getting a little toxic there, might want to cool it a little.

>>8228206
>>8228216
I thought his design was inspired by visual kei

>>8228219
>your masculinity is getting a little toxic there, might want to cool it a little.

>>8228216
His job is a musician so kinda

>>8228216
look up visual kei

>>8228227
Hey buddy, why do you already have an image like that ready to post anytime? Is there anything that says about you?

>>8228231
no i dont see it, looks too david bowie and less faggy mall goth

>>8228234
Theyre all in my folder marked "cool dudes"

>>8228237
>"What inspired this design?"
>here is what inspired this design
>"Nah, I don't see it"
Ok

>>8228158
>le cool emo boy
iori is more goth than emo, zoom zoom

>>8228241
oh like you know anything, I bet you're retarded. No offense

>>8228213
>Are there actually people out there who see a character like this and say "Now that.. is my kinda character!"
Of course

>>8228242
>zoom zoom

Or ya know, I'm just not a faggot who follows this kinda stuff. like you..

>>8228158
>forced emo cool
More like stylish and late 90's japanese goth. Iori and others gives KOF a more topical look than SF. Just because it's different doesn't mean it's bad.

>>8228213
>Now that.. is my kinda character!
This but with Momoko

>>8227998
The best character designs are those from Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting, not the originals, with a few exceptions.

>>8228697
But nobody expects guys from 90s J Rock to be fighters, that's the thing. It doesn't fit the narrative really. Whether its emo or visual kei or goth or w.e is irrelevent, none of it fits in a martial arts setting.

>>8228056
Yeah, KoF stuck out like a sore thumb compared to other high-T fighting games at the time that copied pop culture of the 1960s-80s. The original characters followed modern trends in Japan/Asia

>>8228147
Thanks for the story anon it was a good read

This thread reminded me of an interesting interview.

https://www.siliconera.com/snk-developers-talk-about-how-some-of-the-classic-arcade-games-were-made/

>Famitsu: SNK’s game character designs were full of various traits earlier on. Did the development heads tell you to design them like that?

>Kuroki: “Not in particular, it just so happened a lot of the designers liked them like that. (laughs) However, when we saw the character designs from The King of Fighters, we were like, “Wow!”

>Famitsu: Meaning?

>Kuroki: “We were thinking, “The main character is wearing a school uniform?” and “Wow, he’s got such small arms!” The Fatal Fury series was always about macho fighters.”

>Famitsu: However, Rock and Terry in Garou: Mark of the Wolves were more of the cool sort of character.


>Kuroki: “That’s because the dev team talked about it at the start of development. Things like how our character design senses were outdated. (laughs) Looking back at the Fatal Fury series, it’s nothing but old men with mustaches and other macho characters. We thought, “this is a bad trend”.”

>“Garou: Mark of the Wolves ended up cutting down on that element, and adding a bit more of what the markets wanted.”

>Famitsu: Because of KOF, the number of female fans began to increase, right?

>Kuroki: “Around the time Garou was in development, the term “moe” started to be used. We thought, “We want to add in moe, but what is moe?!” and had a lot of trouble with it. Thankfully, some staff were familiar, and Hotaru was created with the teachings of those staff members.”

It's interesting how such a shift on design philosophy occured within the same decade.

always found their designs more boring and generic than other fighting games

For me, it's Whip.

>>8228719
Leona was a hit too.

kof has some of my favorite designs in any game. kyo especially is peak fighting games
they look like human beings who fight, rather than FIGHTING GAME CHARACTER. you can make guesses about their life just looking at a single frame
every other game with a sumo character just draws the generic fat fuck japanese man in a diaper. kof has a demure rich kid who's spent daddy's money trying every sport until she settled on this one

>>8229174
You just like generic outfits because you're a boring person yourself.
you're like those fat acceptance people who don't wanna workout so they try to normalize being fat.

Except you're too lazy to be amazing, so you like when your games feature vanilla bland fuckers.

>>8229187
This comment was typed with bloated, candy stained fingers.

>>8229187
yes because a leather jacket with the sun on the back is much more generic than a fucking karate gi.
check out these street fighter cosplayers! so many little ryus and makotos. i even see akira from virtua fighter

>>8229174
>they look like human beings who fight
Normal human beings don't street fight, much less J pop waifs with metrosexual hair cuts. Terry is a cool design, and he looks like he fights, he looks like a street tough guy. There is a difference and a middle ground between Ryu le karate man and Kyo, a waify high school kid with a stylish haircut designed for little girls to swoon over. Nobody believes Kyo is a tough guy.

I love this kind of posts, I check 4Chan every week or so, because sometimes I find interesting posts. But mostly trash, then posts like this one, that reminds me I'm an outsider here, and it's feel good!

>>8228060

Test

>>8229360
I can't read that language but I'm guessing that sign says you can't play rugal, because it caused to many issues between players?

>>8229360
what cabinet even is that? the fire emblem arcade cabinet?

Your face is meh and unappealing. Most of KOF's designs are peak fighting game character design. Iori is a 90's fighting icon.

Most posters in this thread are showing how young and tasteless they are, lmao

>>8227998
Yeah, other than Mai I don't really like them. Wasn't this after the Street Fighter guy left SNK too to found DIMPs? I like Last Blade and Samurai Showdown ppl but KoF I sleep, nigga.

>>8227998
I really like the art in the games, I just find beat em ups in general meh and unappealing

>>8228697
Look at this fucking retard. He looks like a deviantart OC.

>>8229801
whats ur taste faggot.

>>8228697
what is the efficacy of having his legs tied together? like if it's just for walking around, whatever, but he's in a fighting game

>>8229328
yeah he and Iori "gay emo ginger with tourettes" Yagami both look like they should be sticking their wiry fingers in middle aged women's slashs for money at a cheap host club.

>>8228147
Are you american and came to live in Brazil or the other way around?

>>8229636
Exactly.

>>8230008
He purposely does it to give himself more of a challenge.

>>8230128
yea, and he doesn't like fighting apparently. snk gave him a lot of weird traits.

>>8228697
play Gals Fighters on the neo geo pocket color, he wears drag and goes by the name "Miss X"

>>8229328
oh, i have that.

>>8230272
back art is a damn mess though, makes it look like a bootleg, but it is legitimate, these things had spine cards that were regularly lost when the wrap was removed, that is where the barcode and a bit more info tended to be.

>>8230272
nobody probably cares but disc picture too.

>>8230157
He's an edgelord but I think he's one they purposely made him ridiculous for fun. I really love the fact that originally he was tsundere as fuck with Kyo since he thought if they ever became real friends their rivalry would end. That and canonically all he actually cares about doing is playing saxophone, in 97 the Orochi team literally challenges him sinc ehis act is more popular then their's.

>>8229174
Mate Hinako is my favorite char but don't try to make excuses. Most snk designs are bland and boring. At least the gacha fixed some.

Had no idea so many people thought KoF designs were bland, I like them better then SF's designs overall but darkstalkers is better then either.

>>8229328
>Muscular build
>Hot headed
>Wields fire
>Nobody believes Kyo is a tough guy.
Gotcha.

>>8230042
I'm an american who went to high school in brazil

>>8230294
Reddit might care

>>8229360
Soul.

>>8228273
>Or ya know, I'm just not a faggot who follows this kinda stuff. like you..
any millenial knows the difference between goth and emo, it was part of the mainstream culture in the early 00s. the only way you wouldn't know is if you were too young to know what was going on in the world or were so poor you couldn't afford cable

>>8228697
Not going to lie, Iori was one of the characters that immediately drew my eye when I was first seeing King of Fighters. I just thought he was a badass. He has kind of this gothic element to him, definitely.

>>8229773
>what cabinet even is that? the fire emblem arcade cabinet?
What does it look like? It's just a generic MAME box with a bunch of random shit shoved into the display because having a totally blank arcade machine is lame and they used whatever the bootlegger at the minisuper had

>>8231731
>the only way you wouldnt know is

I'm Gen-X you faggot, I had better things to do than keep track of every culture change.

>ooh life is sooo empty i'm gonna dress differently to express myself!

Goth, emo.. all the same kinda crap.

>>8231790
>he's so desperate to not look stupid he's resorted to LARPing
kek

>>8231798
What? that's your reply? "no ur not lol"
Maybe wanna throw some "k boomer" in there too?

>>8227998
>meh and unappealing

I WILL CHISEL YOUR GRAVESTONE - SLEEP WELL!

>>8229084
>and adding a bit more of what the markets wanted

This world is done for XD

>>8230294
I do care ! I fucking love fatal fury and real bout! I will never forget the first time I saw tung fu rue during the second round, raining and thunderstorm, the EPIC music (four thousand years of Chinese history) ! And suddenly tung go full hulk King Kong chest beating, bam bam bam ! Street fighter 2 didn't have anything like this...
https://youtu.be/ORewJWZRrxI

>>8232515
falcoon is a creepy nerd and most of his designs are bad. there's some stand-outs but all the shittiest kof designs are on him
he probably wanted to get fujos into kof

>>8228069
>I like thing
0 replies instant page 10
>I hate thing
470 replies, every one of them extensive accounts of technical reasonings, comparisons, married with childhood anecdotes, and picture examples, thread reaches bump limit.

Conflict breeds discussion

>>8232541
Fuck, that nuke really did a number on those guys.

>>8231959
ok boomer kek

Who are they trying to appeal to with this? are the majority of Japanese KOF players truly all metrosexual? I mean.. at this point you're kinda alienating yourself from the fans who just want a manly kinda game.

>>8228708
This guy gets it

>>8232515
This girl is weird-looking

>>8229084
>Looking back at the Fatal Fury series, it’s nothing but old men with mustaches
They do actually have a lot of those characters, I hadn't thought about it before.

>>8232541
in general i dislike falcoon's anatomy and silly faces but i have nothing against the designs

>>8229360
yeah i think they used some type of fortend called master multijuegos. im currently trying to make my own using a chinese viewlix

>>8229123
She is great too.

>>8232741
he's the choice for the equivalent of trolls or shitposters of that era

>>8232741
>muh manly
Just go watch some many men bedroom wrestling if you love it so much

>>8233717
Honestly though, no one likes you people

>>8227998
no, i like the the urban design of them, it gives you the feel they do other things besides fighting in a tournament. SNK was never afraid to go with the trend, even now with his chineses overlords (see shun'ei and isla), and i don´t have the nostalgia for the SF design to be gold standard in every other archtype of fighting games (beign a spic).

>>8232943
No, he just sucks

>>8233813
I really felt the series took a step down when he was working on it.

>>8233724
>noooooo you can't have character designs other than the ones i specifically say are ok (mentality swamped in retarded society memes of masculinity)

>>8228060
You know what weirds me out though? Through all the years I lived in Mexico and played on these MAMEboxes, I rarely if ever saw any Mexican kid playing anything besides these specific three games
>KoF02 (a hack)
>Metal Slug X (maybe sometimes a different one but usually X)
>Snow Bros.
Why did only these games appeal to these kids? I was pretty much the only kid who would bother playing stuff like Mega Man: The Power Fighters or Marvel vs. Capcom or whatever else. We're talking about machines with hundreds of games.
Also it makes me kek that I paid like 9 or 10 cents (at the time) per arcade play and in America you have to drop a whole fucking quarter

>>8233387
I miss seeing her legs.

>>8228059
>I think the sf3 characters are way more interesting and cool.
>Doesn't realise 3rd Strike ripped off SNK

>>8228059
most of the new sf3 cast were duds.
the game was a disaster for capcom at the time.

>>8227998
Yuri is a better waifu than Chun, Cammy and Sakura combined.

>>8234891
We also played tekino97, NeoBomberman, Shock Troopers 2, Spinmasters, and some futbol game where I live.
Also MS3 was played way more than X.

>>8235208
Hm. Bomberman is a maybe. That seems familiar.

Iori has some animations and poses that mimics the EVA-01

>>8235304
Which ones? He's been in the game before EVA aired.

>>8233813
I think a number if the Maximum Impact designs weren't great, but some were okay. The Soira brothers were basically classic designs.

A lot of people liked that booby spy blonde as well, even though I feel it was basic bitch stuff, and honestly SFIV did the design better though they just merged booby spy and Venessa.

SFIV ripped of SNK designs like nobody's business

>>8235641
Vanessa has much more longevity than C.Viper. You periodically see her in some people's favourite/waifu list but never her Capcom counterpart.

>>8235019
I like all of them except remy. He’s boring af

>>8235482
orochi iori takes some cues from unit 01 in berserk mode
orochi leona too, especially when she forms her hand into the vibro knife

>>8236384
I thought Leona's moves were based on tokusatsu?

Why do nip girls fall for those effeminate types?

>>8228061
He probably didn't live in the true Mexican arcade glory days, I used to go after school to the local arcades that had air hockey and billiard back when KoF 97 and 98 were brand new, 99 was definitely a wow moment, fucking ghetto zones though, because most of the time when an arcade button was malfunctioning people just yanked it (you could literally rotate SNK original cabinets buttons like a fucking screw)

There were like 3 arcade places near my high school (or equivalent to high school here in Mexico, called Preparatoria) and most of them had Neogeo cabinets, some Capcom ones with the most popular games (SF2, Xmen vs SF when it was brand new, Final Fight, etc)

Rarely did we ever see a CPS-III cabinet in here, mostly Neogeo ones, you can bet your ass every arcade place was full of DDR machines when the craze hit worldwide

>>8228026
Pretty much this, aside from Kyo and Iori. People remember Terry, Mai, and Geese, hence their guest appearances in other games. I guess there are a few other exceptions like Shermie but even other characters that originate from FF like Kim are more notable than a lot of the people exclusive to KOF

>>8232741
For anyone too obsessed into the Part 3, of course.

>>8229103
I don't know. She still looks like willing to make Leona her bitch.

>>8233717
Hey, just found some men bedroom wrestling thing called Gachimuchi and it has opened my eyes. Thank and fuck you!

>>8236816
It's the "I can change them" mentality. It's a pretty common wish fulfilment fantasy, maybe more popular with women.

>>8236816
the gay stereotype in japan is /fit/ protein junkies, since only men care about muscles. femboys are straight as an arrow by comparison because women go gaga for the boy band look
seems like alien logic but it kinda makes sense desu

>>8237281
That's survivor bias. Fatal Fury has a lot more forgettable fighters if you played the old ones, and only the most popular or strongest designs made it through to KOF.
There are also fewer KOF originals due to the main staples being from crossovers, and the unusual characters like Chang and Choi are more popular than Fatal Fury of AOF entries that share a similar role.

>>8236816
Different standards of beauty.

>>8236312
The weird blobmen weren't interesting.

>>8236831
>He probably didn't live in the true Mexican arcade glory days
Yeah I didn't get there until 2002

>>8237731
No way, man! You must lying! When I saw those women like men looking the exact opposite of us, I thought: "They must have the SAME standards of beauty". But it had to be you, the only one to give the "people die if they are killed" answer.

>>8236816
pretty boys are hot, retard

>>8236384
which is the vibro knife move?

>>8232819
>momoko with belly button piercing
What did the artist mean by this?

>>8232741
>Literally based on an JoJo character
JoJo pretty manly isn't

>>8232741
>Literally based on a Jojo character.
Jojo a pretty manly series.

>>8228242
>>8231731
>>8231790
Millennial here. I remember only emo/goth kids cared about the distinction.
That dude was definitely one of them haha

>>8228060
>MAMEbox

cringe

>>8234891

Credits cost the equivalent of a dollar in japan.

>>8239993
iori predates emo

>>8239978
Sure thing zoomer

>>8241654
not retro but didn't think I'd like her as much as I eventually did

>>8241654
>>8242394
She was a shit character until the manga fleshed her out a bit. Now she only looks like shit.

>>8232486
KAISER WAVE
>*Mozart playing in background*

>>8239978
jojo stopped being manly after part 4

>>8241654
No wonder Japanese birth rates are plummeting, they've all gone mental.

I didn't mind KoF, but that series introducing scrawny fashion models and children probably opened the door to anime air-dashers (Melty Blood, Arcana Heart, Under Night etc etc etc) where the characters don't look like they know anything about realistic or even fantasy fighting, they just throw their body around and that's a punch/kick/devastating super in those games. Capcom in their 90s run grounded their fighting games in fighting, even if the game was scifi or fantasy (Darkstalkers, Marvel etc). I took a break from fighters when anime games became more popular in the 2000s

>>8242579
Anime fighters came really from games like Asuka 120% which came before KOF. The cutesy characters mostly came in later KOF, apart from Athena but she's an older character than Street Fighter itself.

>>8242579
>Capcom in their 90s run grounded their fighting games in fighting
who
the fuck
cares
the genre doesnt have to literally only be street fighter and nothing else forever you ass clowns

>>8242579
Gameplay wise anime fighters were more influenced by Capcom titles. Darkstalkers for instance popularized air dashes, so much so that often people often claim it to created them despite TMNT Tournament Fighter beat it by a year. Capcom kind of played with the idea of "just how chaotic can we make a game that it is still playable" and lesser known devs would expand on that.

I posted an interview >>8229084 where they discussed how they kind of took awhile to really target the moe audience since before then they were so focused on their casts being as "macho" as possible. That said I guess Nakoruru was probably the first really popular "moe" fighting game character depending on how you think about it. Outside of Japan she's not too fondly remembered but there she's basically the second face of SNK beside Terry.

>>8242406
what happened in that?

Some.

Like Bao is really dull. The big poofy hat is supposed to be his identifying feature but the drab yellow coloring of his outfit just sours it all.

>>8227998
opposite. i think the character designs in KoF have always been pretty cool, stylish even. the issue i have with KoF is it feels like there's a pretty decent anime story that isn't being told. it's like they have the character framework, but they've never bothered to fill in the details. which is fine because it seems like the systems they've set up in these games are pretty sophisticated. something i appreciate about KoF is it's always come across as the kind of fighting game for classy, mature individuals, which i can't say i am, so i've never delved deeply into any of these games.

i think in an ideal world the KoF games would be what you play once you've mastered SF and want a little more.

>>8244465
I don't know what they were thinking, or if they were trying to make him unpopular

>>8242579
>(Melty Blood, Arcana Heart, Under Night etc etc etc) where the characters don't look like they know anything about realistic or even fantasy fighting
they have magic powers in much the same way blanka is a green monster man who can summon electricity. dhalsim appears to weigh 80 pounds and has rubber bones. and ryu/ken/chun/guile/sagat/bison/fucking everyone can make "energy blasts". there's an interview with the artists where they wondered if the moves looked too stupid, honda's headbutt in particular, but the game was fantasy enough that they decided it was okay
>Capcom in their 90s run grounded their fighting games in fighting, even if the game was scifi or fantasy (Darkstalkers, Marvel etc)
how can you say darkstalkers characters looked like they fight? lilith is the prototypical battle loli and the characters include little red riding hood, a catgirl, a beegirl and a fishman
fighting games are cool because you can put a hitbox and stun duration on anything and it becomes a usable move. capcom knew that from the start. that's why we have street fighter clones instead of yie ar kung fu-likes

>>8244465
>>8244665
Bao was the new butt monkey character to replace Shingo

>>8236816
>nip girls
Haven't you seen the kpop boyband fever that has been going on for years here in the west?
Korean stuff is trendy now and that's beause their boybands opened the gates for them.

Girls as young as 13 and women as old as 30 drooling over skinny guys with no muscle mass, no hair anywhere besides the head, androginous faces and less testosterone than an american butch dyke.
No one thinks these guys look tough or manly, not even their drooling fans, but they do get pussy nonetheless. Teenage girls from all across the world would line up for a chance to fuck them.

I'd like to see how the lookism and blackpill communities explain this phenomenom. If looks are all that matters and the typical manly high t look is king, what explains the kpop mania and the craze going on over guys who look completely unmanly?

>>8242579
>Capcom in their 90s run grounded their fighting games

What is Sakura and everybody in Rival Schools then?

>>8244776
>lilith is the prototypical battle loli
She's the same size as Morrigan though, both ingame and canonically.

>>8244783
Except he's got like...insane amounts of potential so he's like some golden boy. Like he could even put Kensou to shame.

>>8243539
X-Men COTA is the base for Guilty Gear and the majority of air dashers, even though some games innovated mechanics first

>>8244776
Even if the fighting is purely fantasy, Capcom's fighting is animated with fighting principles in mind, like weight distribution and even correct form. Sure Sakura is a schoolgirl, but her standing FP has correct form for a punch. Even if a DS character transforms into a wrecking ball, the wrecking ball is animated to look like it has force behind it

A lot of air dashers are just characters..... doing things. Turn that into a full roster, of a full game, for an entire sub-genre, that dominated for a decade, while other fighting games were dormant unless you had access to hardcore tournaments somewhere in the world

>>8229084
This is kind of weird... Fatary Fury definitely had cool characters. Terry is super cool with his long ponytail, red jacket, and cap, and his attitude. There are big "Macho" characters like Big Bear, Lawrence or Krauser, but the Bogard brothers, Joe, Kim... they're all younger guys with a cool sort of aura.
Not to mention characters like Duck King.
In Real Bout the Jin brothers are like out of a 90s anime, with one of them being androgynous.
Garou is different from Fatal Fury because it ditched the bi-plane system, and changed Terry's classic outfit, not because it included characters that weren't stereotypical macho.

>>8245268
>with one of them being androgynous.
The original idea was to have a character who had a split personality, one being masculine and the other feminine. Over time they decided to ditch the idea but there were people on the dev team who liked one personality over the other so they split them into two separate characters.
>not because it included characters that weren't stereotypical macho
Looking at Garou's roster it's definitely less "macho" comp[ared to FF2's roster. Characters like Rock and Freeman definitely feel more geared toward a bishonen audience and as that interview stated Hotaru was made specifically to appeal to the moe audience.

>>8228158
anyone who doesn't like Iori's design is basically not worth interacting with
and hell, Iori's personality is just "yeah, I do whatever the fuck I want"
he doesn't give a shit about the clan, he just wants to punch Kyo in his stupid face

>>8245869
>i only like dark and edgy characters

lol what a meme.

>>8228213
I like Bao, but I'm a shameless shotacon.
kinda want him to come back for gameplay reasons because fuck you, get zoned, but at the same time, there's a reason his story got fucking dropped even though it was built up to be important
pretty much NO ONE who isn't a fucking dirty shotacon fucker likes him

well, I guess there are the people who want to keep doing his degenerate max mode combo from 02UM
in fact, I'm pretty sure 02UM has dramatically increased his popularity just because it finally got people to play him

the last game to have solid character design all around was real bout and samurai showdown 4
everything else after that point is fucking cringe with some single character exceptions here and there

>>8245872
I like KOF's designs across the board. There's something for everyone.
but Iori's design is cool as fuck

>>8232741
he's literally just Polnareff from JoJo
to the point where I was confused as fuck back in the day since I only got into KOF after having played JoJo on PS1
I was also dumb and didn't know that JoJo wasn't a Capcom property, let alone that it was based on an existing franchise

>>8228059
the SF3 characters are largely just grotesque
it took me years to like them

>>8229792
you will never be a woman anon, so sorry

how do you get into kof? someone advised me on fightcade to just set the difficulty to level 8 in arcade and start playing. I've done this and although it feels like the cpu is reading my inputs sometimes, it feels a lot more manageable than playing against actual players.

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>>8244776
anyone know a good place to get fighting game sprites/gifs? seems like all the old sites have gone down over the years, spriters resource is available i know but it doesn't really have much for fighting games.

>>8246161
go to the guides for each character on the srk wiki. gifs for all the moves are there.

>>8246170
did you mistype snk wiki or did you mean the shoryuken wiki? either way i can't seem to find many gifs.

fighters generation has a bunch though

>>8246067
if you can play 14 somehow you'll learn the fundamentals quick. it's kof for humans. 15 is likely to be similar
there's no fucking way you will ever be good at any of the sprite-based ones though. the time for that has passed

>>8245916
Same with Paul from Tekken. Guile from SF is also allegedly also based on Polnareff but I don't believe it, he looks too much like Stroheim

>>8237708
Good point. I guess aside from the ones that made it into KoF I don't care much about 90% of the other FF characters, let alone remember most of them

>>8246243
id rather play 13. i've been avoiding 14 because it looks really unappealing.

>>8246276
13 is more fun but you quickly realize the game wants finger breaking loops out of you for damage. none of the other games have HD mode.
learning that takes away from learning how to play, which mostly involves playing with and around hops
actually if you haven't watched the DandyJ KOF Guide video you need to do that

>>8246161
Thefightersgeneration is a great resource for sprites.

>>8246289
DandyJ's KOF tutorial has really good presentation considering it was made in '09.

>>8244991
God I love this Sakura. She's so cute. You know when you like a female character just for being a cutie and don't want to fuck them? I mean, I'd fuck her, but that's not my point
Sakura in SF4 was like massively muscled like everyone else and it was fucking gross