/vr/ - Retro Games

no n64 port
released in 2000 and not 1998
follower vs being a pioneer
take your pick

I thought it was considered better? More people have probably played the original, due to it being on N64 and PC as well.

>>8214791
Because MML2 is not as soulful. That first game's hub world is extremely comfy. Also, the Bonnes have less of a spotlight in the second game.

>>8214791
He looks retarded. Pretty shitty cover art

>>8214791
+ better graphics engine
+ better controls
+ removed that shit 'shield break' mechanic
+ loli butt

- music not as great as 1
- no comfy Kattelox setting where everyone knows who you are
- Volnutt's VA is different, worse, grating even
- introduces shitty side villains no one asked for
- that fucking quiz
- ends on a sequel tease that never gets resolved

>>8214791
not as good as the original

>>8214791
I think it's a great game, but it's a lot harder than the first one. Casuals already get filtered hard by most Mega Man games, so they probably think MML2 a piece of shit. The Class S license test would make them rip their hair out.

>>8214791
Cover is awful.

Why is it not as beloved as the original game?

>>8215297
I love them all equally

>>8215297
shittiest waifu ever. not even remotely cute.

All 3 of the games are fucking great, I wish we got a ps2 mml3

>>8215402
I really think the series could have been a hit if they had done anything with it outside of the PS1. Capcom clearly just wasn't quite ready to do this kind of 3D ARGP style game on PS1 hardware, plus it took a while for developers to really get a handle on things like how third person shooters ought to control. All of that was ironed out in the 6th gen, but Legends gets to forever remain this relic of slightly janky early 3D design, and it's a bit of a shame.

>>8214791
it had less heart and charm. legends just oozed with personality and the world felt alive: you felt like you were part of cattlelox island.

>>8215554
Legends 2 is how modern 3d action games control.

I actually prefer MML2 just for the non-dungeon action areas, which I wish there were more of. It might have the fucking water dungeon but in comparison all the ones in MML1 were also boring as fuck.

>>8215584
Maybe in a bare bones sort of way, but the 6th gen had Capcom busting out DMC, RE4, and Okami, and then you look back at Legends where you kind of just slowly strafe around enemies, for the most part.

>>8214805
>>8214903
>>8215572
Exactly, Kattlelox feels huge and enhances the exploration theme of the series
>>8215660
I think opposite of almost everything you said. I prefer MML for overworld and enjoy MML2's ruins. Specially Nino ruins

>>8214791
my favorite part of MML was the giant dungeon that interconnected more as you got new weapons
2 does the BIG EPIC sequel thing by making you travel around the world, so they couldn't have that connectedness. you just pick islands off a menu
gameplay is generally better in 2, especially the combat, and a lot of the set pieces are cool. but i never gave a fuck about those in the first place so i just got bored. plus the side quests are the worst shit ever. quizzes?

>>8215390
Absolute brainlet take. Shamefully offensive taste.

>>8214791
Second one really is a sequel in the truest sense, as in you’d need to have played the first one to fully appreciate it. Fleshes the story out a lot and expands upon mechanics from the first game. Unfortunately this doesn’t necessarily make it a better game for newcomers, and so it filters them a lot more easily than the first game does.

1 is a neat dungeon crawler exploration game with a great hub town marred by the fact that it came out before dual analog was a thing
2 has dual analog controls, but now has separate Ocarina of Time style themed dungeons that aren't very good and no hub town plus too many boring shooting gallery set pieces that feel like padding

>>8215297
Why isn't she as beloved as Tron-chan?

lowkey i wonder how many people just get their opinions from mmhp, i pretty much do

>>8216052
She's my favourite version of Roll. Very cute and hot.

>>8216082
Plus while Mega Man fucking her isn't incest in any way it still kinda feels like it.

>>8216095
this is probably why no one* likes roll in this games. they've clearly lived together from a young age, maybe forever, and roll is megaman's sister in the OG games.
*except degenerates

>>8216126
Incest or incest coding is like the most popular fetish ever. People want to be close to someone for a long time, and THEN fuck them. It's an understandable fantasy.

I've beaten the first one half a dozen times and cant get more than 3 hours into 2 without getting bored. It SEEMS cool. I think it's just my autism

>>8214801
It is much better (although both are good). The intro is a masterpiece and everyone should appreciate what Capcom was doing on the PS Fucking Single.

>>8216141
This is the way people lived for millennia, it's certainly understandable, it's the way we're supposed to be.

>>8216196
Now you're making it weird

>>8214805
This, the barren snow fields just didn't draw me in like the first game did.
it all just felt smaller due to the winter theme, didn't make me wanna go out and explore at all.

>>8216196
The issue is that people are supposed to have familial connections with whole community that they grow up around, but most people only have that with their immediate families in the current age.

>>8214794
Wrong.

It's because katalox Island is one of the comfiest and also most mysterious locations in all of video games, and the npcs are really alive too.

Legends 2 meanwhile takes place spread across a bunch of tiny locations instead of 1 big one. They wanted the game to feel bigger, but it ended up feeling smaller.

>>8215297
Because nobody played it. It's super rare

>>8214791
>Released near the end of the PS1
>Original was on more consoles
>Less memorable

>>8216052
Cause she's boring. Join the Tron army!

>>8214903
The gameplay displeases me, he didn't pick any of them up and throw them at the others or off the cliff.

>>8216926
put the specs back on and we'll think about it, toots

>>8214791
The whole part about the second key, Nino island and Glyde's fortress.

>>8215297
Just started it and already want to give up after the "bank robbery" mission and "please talk to your 40 legoboys".

>>8216356
>They wanted the game to feel bigger, but it ended up feeling smaller
Sums it up pretty well.

>>8218581
I loved taking to my little Servbots and advancing their skills with random items that suit their fancy. That type of shit will never fail to amuse or engage me.

>>8218581
Same except I dropped it the moment I learned I had to do those slow as fuck minigames whenever I wanted to raise their stats.

>>8218486
>"NOOOOO, I won't let them take the key! I'll take you all down with us!"
Again and again and again...

>>8219673
ever noticed he kinda sounds like pic related?

>>8216060
mmho.net isn't a good source to get opinions from instead of your own. It is the website that rated BN4 higher than 3, 5 and 6, and Kickstarted the meme of "only Mega Man 1-3 were good solid games, 4-6 weren't", even though 1 plays like garbage, 2 flickers like a motherfucker and 3 is incomplete.

Mml2 feels like a legit 3d mega man ganw while 1 feels like a 3d test room demo.

>>8216060
i like MMHP but you can tell she's a fan, not a critic. i don't think there's a single game on there lower than a 7/10. generally i agree with her on which games are better than others, though
>>8222492
>It is the website that rated BN4 higher than 3,

>>8214791
Character have worse faces