/vr/ - Retro Games

I got sucked into a spiral of watching youtube vids of a very autistic man explaining every little detail about RCT and now I've picked the game back up after like 15 years of not touching it.

Anyway to install OpenRTC on an old winxp laptop? It's no longer suported, and I cannot find the old version that supported it.

>>8181742
Marcel Vos claims another victim.

>>8181876
Are you unable to install the x86 version? I haven't had issues on older hardware, but I haven't tried anything below x86 Vista.

>>8182168
It's just so interesting, I don't even want to use the micro-coasters

>>8182971
micro-coaster spam is so soulless. what's even the point of playing the game when you just do that?
I can forgive doing it on bullshit scenarios like rainbow valley though

I wish more of our players made time lapse construction videos

Been messing around with Side-Friction Coasters of all things lately. Obviously not terribly exciting or interesting but adds a bit more focus to scenery/terrain design which I've always neglected a bit. It's a nice little alternative to the Junior Coaster in a way.

>>8183326
looks cute, mate

After learning so much about the game I do wish ride stat requirements had just been listed in the coasters' descriptions. Not knowing how much you can charge and working it out is part of the game, but things like lateral G requirements and tall drops are literally the purpose of certain rides, they should have a number associated with them.

>>8182168
Fuck that guy and his accent, a few gamer YTers rub me the wrong way and he's one of them.

>>8183662
Don't know if it's his grasp of English but his voice is fucking grating.

>>8183704
it's the cadence
he's like RCT's version of Chills

>>8184374
Yeah, you're right. He raises and lowers his voice constantly and it's awful.

>>8181876
I'll reply to myself, I found a recent build that works on winxp x86. Hope it helps somebody else.

https://github.com/OpenRCT2/OpenRCT2/releases/tag/v0.2.6

>>8182189
The x86 version works on Vista and onwards, the one I used gives a "denied access" error. You need a version compiled for XP, the one I linked works on 2000 also.

>>8182981
micro coasters, specifically the half-corkscrew shuttle, are absolute bullshit and if I had control over the next update of openrct2, I'd personally program the game to punish you for that specific model of coaster.

>>8186220
One could just add a minimum length component to the scoring equation to make them properly worthless.

>>8186237
sure, but I want to absolutely positively nuke this one specific exploit

>>8186267
Just make it force name the ride "Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks" or something.

>>8186297
remember when RCT2 got a patch that killed the TOGO ultra twister bug? like that, except on a smaller scale

>>8182981
Honestly if a scenario sucks so bad that we're going to boring scam it to death, why not just alter the scenario to be something where you actually play the game?

>>8186267
There are similar ones with a train that goes half up a loop or another small trick. Mini-screws are the most efficient but if you don't make a qualitative change, the next runner up shitride takes the exact same position in the game.

>>8186405
Those piss me off, too. Just make a shuttle loop. God damn.

>>8188354
kek

why do the looping coaster trains look so odd to me when vertical?

I remember playing RCT1 with my older brother for hours on end, being absolutely amazed by how fun this is, I even got the RCT2 with expansions for my birthday later - however, I dont remember this game too much now, that was years ago. Is this game easy to get back in? If I dig up my old polish retail copy am I good to go? I'd like to just have fun and build customized rides

>>8189464
Rather than the retail version, why not go with Open RCT2? It's literally the first link in the OP.
To answer your question though, it's easy to get back into short of mental retardation.

>>8181742
>>8182168

He must be riding the algorithm now, seeing a lot of his shit across my feed as well

What's your wishlist for mods/ORCT2?

>rework the economy entirely, or implement some intuitive set of environment variables to allow it to be done by scenario. Would be interesting to tweak the relative values/costs of individual elements or entire categories (i.e. make paths globally more expensive, or staff, etc) and just adjust the magnitude of all the dollar figures to be more in line with reality
>place the whole game on a functional day/night cycle, where the park opens every morning and closes every night, and you progress through a certain number of days per month (maybe five or seven?). Generating and burning through a few thousand guests across hour-long days would generate a lot more money relative to the time elapsed and would make charging $100k-2M for rides make more sense
>deeper management mechanics on the logistics side .. would be interesting to have trash collection and water/electricity delivery mechanics, basically a SC3k-lite sort of deal, and how you'd have to structure the park to include all those additional facilities.
>more staff types like food service, trash collection, engineers, ride operators/pilots


As it stands my enjoyment for simulation part of the game has basically dried up .. as others noted in here it's effortless to cheese with micro rides and void mazes, etc, so the most I take from the game is just getting aspie about aesthetics because playing the simulation side just feels like using the cheat menu with extra steps

>>8191703
I want transport rides to function as transport rides

>>8191703
Apply the covered/uncovered property to preexisting custom rides, like the Swinger.

>>8191703
autocomplete coaster like in RCT3/PC

>>8191703
Multiplayer with separate parks/finances. Or some crafty deal where multiple parks/scenarios compete for a shared guest pool

>>8191703
this >>8191708
Plus:
- Guests dying if you have underfed them and not allowed them to leave (starving people should leave your park, nobody just wanders around a foodless place to die)
- Security guards given some function or another. Like finding snacks guests carry to avoid buying your food. Leads into the above as well.
- Immediate complaints from guests if you charge anything at all to use a bathroom. That's just some bullshit and everyone knows it.
- Automatic digging as a tickbox to turn on in the track construction and path construction menus. Get rid of the pointless steps, if I'm pathing into the ground I'm already clearly intending to dig it.
- A cheat that just shows you the max price of a ride for its stats. Not everyone wants this, there's strategy and a whole game to finding out the right price on your own, so just put it there as a cheat.

>>8191703
hotels/campgrounds & whatever rct3 has that isn't in openrct2

>>8191703
>pay-to-enter scenarios actually work
>steep-to-level transitions for wooden coasters
>larger corkscrews
>banked incline track for Arrow coasters
>overbanks
>diagonal brakes

>>8191703
"Cinema coaster" that goes from screen to screen, stops, does a drop/elevation/turns after a couple seconds there, goes to another. Like the spider-man ride at Universal or the Star Wars thing at DW (and probably a bunch of other things at DW but I've never seen), but more exposed to view so that you can see it from above. It's on rails, it has a path, so it can actually be done without being wildly out of ballpark for an RCT ride.

>>8192761
sounds like a dark ride overhaul would be welcome

>>8191703
I want RCT1 scenarios, that work *EXACTLY* like the RCT1 scenarios in absolutely all aspects, except with a fast forward button. Mainly in terms of pricing, I wanna be able to charge for park entry + ride entry, and I want scenarios to be unlocked through playing and shit. I don't mind additional options being added like new rides or scenery stuff being available, I just don't want all scenarios unlocked from the start and having to choose between money making options.

>>8189316
Since when did looping coasters have vertical track?

>>8193976
That's LIM track. You can tell by the weird loop.

>>8193859
is anyone gonna tell him, or should I do it?

>>8194081
That the dual pricing sucks super bad and is totally implemented already in ORCT2, or that someone made the RCT1 recreations?

>>8194142
both

>>8194142
you don't even NEED the RCT1 recreations, you can just point OpenRCT2 at a RCT1 install and it'll work off of that.

And dual pricing ALWAYS sucked, even in RCT1, it's never as good as free entry/paid rides. Still better than paid entry/free rides though.

>>8193859
bruh.

>>8194315
I'm really happy that anon got every single thing he thought he was looking for.

>>8191703
I only want a fictional woodie version of the Twister Coaster that has most of its excessive track elements but goes clackclackclack like a woodie and has the speed loss rate and intensity of a woodie.

>>8194482
The RMC wood hybrid is in, Anon.

>>8194572
>no loops
Into the trash it goes.

>>8194572
Does it really have launched lift hills, sloped banked turns, loops, half-loops, large half-loops, corkscrews and barrel rolls?

>literally one wooden coaster in modern history had a loop
>RCT players, on every map:
>wooden coaster loop
>wooden coaster loop
>interlocking wooden coaster loops
>wooden coaster loop

>>8194472

I hope for someone with enough autism to create the 4-row wooden coaster cars.

>>8195245
Well why the fuck is it in the game if not to use? I was perplexed to see it in ORCT2 honestly.

>>8194081
>>8194142
>>8194262
>>8194309
>>8194315
>>8194472
I should probably include that I don't actually want OpenRCT2 at all, I want RCT1 with an expansion pack that adds a fast forward button, I thought I'd made that clear.

>>8195421
You have a solution that contains literally all components you are interested in, and in a way where you do not have to touch or play any other things. No one will make you play RCT2 levels, just ignore them.

>>8195421
are you sure you don't just want openrct2 with an rct1 sprite pack?

>>8195401
legacy content
also faggots can't stop using it because
>muh stats
>loops go loop
also I'm pretty sure there was only ever 1 reverser coaster in real life, should openrct2 remove it just because it doesn't exist anymore?

>>8195447
I want Dr Pepper, not Mr Plibb.

>>8195463
This game allows you to make exaggerated, unreal coasters, so even though I don't like loops on woodies (especially the mismatched way they look), loads of user coasters are going to be works of pure fantasy with designs that don't exist IRL anyway. Certain RCT coaster types exist in multiple places IRL as a clone-stamped design, not as a generic type, which if anything is an even more consistent example, but the game allows you to construct something unreal with its pieces anyway because forcing a rollercoaster to use 1 prebuilt would be ass and 100% of players would agree about it.

>>8195480
If you are not satisfied, then go ask them for openrct1

>>8195450
What it looks like to me desu

>>8193859
Classic is for you bruh. Play anywhere. At work. Lose your job. Join the carnival and play the game I R L. Basically I've learned the real game is to set up a pyramid scheme to sell people overpriced souvenir umbrellas at $20 by luring them with rides. A decent coaster should fetch $10. Advertising is your friend. Handymen will not bankrupt you, spam them. Entertainers are the most powerful NPCs and can erase guests memory allowing them to wait contentedly in a queue of any length. They also prevent vandalism by making guests happy and possibly cooling down angry guests.

>>8195421
>>8195480
You're a fucking moron.

>>8195595
Bro. Classic is just the base game ported to mobile. What you are describing is Rollercoaster Tycoon.

More fucking around with coasters liable to fly off the tracks: Swiss Slopes. Cheeses things a little by going underground but that did also require better management of speed and lateral Gs.

>>8195806
I'm really enjoying these little coaster art pieces you're putting out.

>>8195841
It's a nice little escape.

>>8195843
>Bouvier Boardwalk
now I can't get MRS BOUVIER out of my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yq5tnoT3fo

>>8195848
I like alliterative names and I'll admit the reference came to mind.

>>8195841
>>8195848
I also redesigned Truffle Hunt (on the same map that I'm slowly working to determine the objectives of) to be what I consider both more aesthetic, efficient, and exciting.

>>8195912
Yeah it's very nice, I approve. I almost wish there was some way to create a scenario that mandated such creations and rewarded aesthetics.

>>8195927
I suppose the 'you must not let your park rating fall below 700' objective is that in its own way. It's obviously a difficult notion to quantify. Creating a realistic, effective, and beautiful park is a subjective but achievable goal and I think that's why the game has enduring appeal.

>>8195912
How do people get these cute little cut-away rides? Do you make them on tiny parks or is there some way to cut them out of a larger park?

>>8195960
Not totally sure if it's an OpenRCT2 utility as such but it's just a camera trick more or less! I also find the cutaway view option pretty useful for decorating rides, especially if your view is otherwise blocked by existing scenery.

>>8191703
Water parks

>>8195969
I have no idea how I missed that option, thanks for showing me! It does seem handy.

>>8195421
???
RCT2, and by extension, OpenRCT2 is a straight upgrade from RCT1. And I am speaking as someone who preferred RCT1 over 2 before Open ever came out

ITT: Autism

>>8197110
Do you know what website you're on?

>>8195927
I bet this type of objective caveat could be coded by ORCT2 devs if they wanted - a scenery quantity mandate next to rides and paths you build objective. It wouldn't enforce things looking GOOD because only a really advanced algorithm could make sure you're being tasteful, but it would encourage and reward the effort. Scenery next to rides is already kept track of in mechanics.

Making a scenario like this *not frustrating* would require additional scripting though, because locating pieces of path or rides that "have too few scenery, fix in X weeks or lose" without some kind of highlighting to tell you where would be pretty unfair gameplay.

>>8197110
RCT always attracts autism. From garden-variety autists just trying to make a nice park, to the numbers autists, who need to maximize profits at every moment, to the antisocial autists who don't take the hint that they're annoying everyone in the server.

Sometimes I'm kind of thankful we don't have the weapons-grade autism that comes with the New Element crowd.

Back to making tiny dumb little parks between actual projects to try to refine some kind of design sense.

>>8199252
it's nice desu
I like that helix at the end

I like building small coasters to start scenarios.

>>8199252
very nice

>>8199252
That parking lot's done better than the scenarios that have premade parking lots.

>>8199287
Hydro Hills is difficult to make look aesthetically pleasing, but you're doing a good job so far.

>>8200920
Thanks. We'll see how long it lasts.

>>8199252
small park and carnival projects are superior

The need to sculpt landscapes and hand-pick scenery sets is killing my will to make the ideas I have.

Shrub is my favorite scenery to place using the scatterer. It looks completely innocuous in natural areas and if you do a complete fill of a space it switches to looking intentionally grown.

Just found this I had saved. Was it really 19 months ago?

>>8204431
>Refund
over my dead body

>>8204719
Damn fucking right. If you're unsatisfied with my park I just have a really short hedgemaze for you, no charge.

>>8204407
Mix in the quarter-tile trees and you have a pioneer plant set.

>>8204431
>disinfectant in the log flume
lul

>finish all the Beginner Parks, time to move on to Challenging Parks
>first "Challenging" park is Aqua Park, with a 900 guest goal for 3 years, where there are already four highly successful rides and a path system even a five year old would fix with a bridge in less than a minute
The expansion parks' jank made me forget they still didn't know what they were doing in the main game

>>8208140
I remember I legitimately struggled with Aqua Park when I was a kid. I also priced every ride at $1.00 so that's probably why.

[Flushing sound]

>>8191703
REMOVE THE LOOP "FIX"
I WANT TO MAKE STACKS OF THREADED LOOPS
Also remove the stat penalty for go karts that go underground

>>8195245
yeah and no park in history was a compact mess of launched freefalls on top of more launched freefalls but guess what i'm building anyways

>>8211024
Anon you have to tear some of those down, you have 5 more than the number that exist in reality

>>8211330
>>8211024
it's tower time baybeeee

>>8211024
Dunno about that

>>8211602
>cheesing the shitty overinflated "park value" goal with jewtowers
based beyond belief

>>8211604
>he didn't custom build any of them

>>8211024
>>8211602
my sides

>>8199287
Nice colors

I always build my rides with supports that match the map's predominant colors.

>>8213332
autism

>>8213376
It reduces the sense of visual clutter and highlights the track, anon. Don't you care about design?

>>8213332
I like this idea. Will need to try it some time.

>>8213376

Fellas, is it autistic to make your park look nice?

>>8214874
Autistic? No.
Artistic? Yes.

>>8199252
this looks fantastic. you should feel good about it.

>>8214874
No, it's only autistic if you do it wearing a fursuit.

>>8214874
inb4 someone posts that tiktok webm again of the jealous girl

Wooden Roller Coaster | Wooden Twister Coaster

>>8217995
The water on the right is better. Look at that italics 3D font. The waves. Convince me that the water on the left is better, you can't.

>>8218247
The water on the right is pool water.

>>8218293
I am now convinced

>>8218293
I had the same thought but didn't bother to post.

>>8218247
>>8217995
What if the water on the right is sparkling/seltzer water?

Admittedly that would still make it the superior option as far as I'm concerned.

>>8195843
Under the boardwalk... with a schlong in Jan's mouth.....

I didn't even know this was an award.

>>8220164
Yeah, you need a lot of toilets (1 per like 100 or 200 people) and fewer than X amount of people thinking "I need to go to the bathroom"

>>8220628
the original scenarios are so good

>>8220837
Yeah this is my first time going through them. What I liked about Mel's World is how it gives enough space but not enough smooth terrain, balances the difficulty.

>>8221001
I like that you can modify the existing coasters easily to improve them while keeping the soul of the ride intact. It's a nice touch.

Okay, doods, I'm at my wit's end. I just started getting into RCT and I just can't fucking figure out why my park guest number is stagnating. What am I doing wrong? I'm building coasters and rides as fast as I can afford them, my park rating is 999, what the fuck am I doing wrong? Like, I'm playing Future World and year three started and I can't break 700 guests no matter what I do. Help.

>>8222692
As I recall, guest cap roughly correlates with number of coasters, new ones having a bonus. You might try making a larger number of smaller coasters. Running an advertising campaign for a new coaster will also help.

>>8222692
build more rides
use marketing

I decided to try and decorate my rides based upon the parks main theme. With this one being a forest-mine I plan on using plenty of earthy tones.

>>8222914
>not Morning Woody

>>8222914
Don't max out the number of boats, you numpty.

>>8223125
Duly noted

This was rather interesting, part of me wishes I focused more on trying to fit the rides into the terrain but I was focused more on winning the scenario.

>>8222692
Advertise. Use all 4 advertisements as much as you can, I like to start 4 month ones as soon as my first rollercoaster is up while cashflow is limited, giving me room to build another coaster in that time, then the ride rakes in enough for the next one to be 6-8 months. Keep it continuous and bite off smaller ad bills at first until sudden 12 month payments don't interfere with construction now.
Get park awards (eligibility is checked for random ones each month but it's easy to make sure you qualify for many and cleanest+safest parks should be your always state anyway). Make sure you don't receive negative awards - their conditions are actually easy to spoil with 1 detail, like you physically cannot receive "worst food" if you have 3+ different types of food even if all the starving upset guest requirements in the world are met.

Take out increasing loan to afford the rides faster; interest rates are like hiring a staff member comparatively and you can just increase it as needed instead of the max as a bulk sum. 20 years would have to pass for a 5% interest loan to be a negative investment, 10 for a 10%, 6 and change for a 15%. These lengths of time aren't in the scope of park goals at all so they're automatically worth it, but even then getting revenue up sooner also reaps a higher faster reward for doing it anyway.

Also, there's apparently some caveat with guests who enter hungry, where if you don't give them benches to eat on, their script checks that they haven't found a ride to go on in X time from entry (because they cannot board a ride while holding food) and tells them to leave. Meaning a park with food stalls and no sitting places actually generates some amount of guests who enter, buy a sandwich and leave the park.

>>8223212
>Also, there's apparently some caveat with guests who enter hungry, where if you don't give them benches to eat on, their script checks that they haven't found a ride to go on in X time from entry (because they cannot board a ride while holding food) and tells them to leave. Meaning a park with food stalls and no sitting places actually generates some amount of guests who enter, buy a sandwich and leave the park.
Fuck it, I'm using that as an excuse to repost this.

Decided to try out some scenery this time around. The side walls could have turned out better but I was afraid that I would need to edit the entire mountain which would interfere with my log flume ride which went through it.

>>8222692
If the tips the other anons have shared so far don't help, post a screenshot of your park. There may be something else going on, and having a visual reference will help us figure it out.
>>8223894
neat water feature dude

>>8223164
I always like that original RCT maps had large landscapes to help with immersion, but nowadays I look at that space and thing about running hyper-twisters through it.

>>8224776
>nowadays I look at that space and thing about running hyper-twisters through it.
You reminded me of Vertigo Views from Loopy Landscapes which that coaster circling the entire park.

>>8225591
What a good fucking scenario. I must have played that one at least 6 times.