/vr/ - Retro Games

I may get the Steam version if that's the only options for PCs because I loved playing it emulated. But I'm holding back to see if they fucked it up.

probably ps3

Is this out yet? It looked kind of smeared and blurry in the videos.

I'm getting it when it goes on sale. Which, since it's published by Capcom, will be never.

>>814450
>Steam version
I didn't even know they were doing that, pretty cool if the port ends up being good, even though:

>netplay for the CPS2 games
You can play both on GGPO or Supercade flawlessly.

>>814493
>But I'm holding back to see if they fucked it up.
If Iron Galaxy is in charge like the majority of the ports, it oughta be real nice.

>>815835
Although the flaws with GGPO/SC involve no drop-in/out play and it's limited to two players.

cleric was her

fiter is a fagit

I'll get the Steam version simply because it is what my other friends have.

>This includes a reprint of a Shadows over Mystara guide from an arcade book series, two disc CD soundtrack, a reprint of a Capcom Secret File for Dungeons & Dragons: Shadows over Mystara, instruction card & sticker set, two rubber coasters, a clear folder, a code redeemable for a PS3 theme designed by Capcom artist Bengus, in a limited edition box.

HOLY FUCK, JAPAN THIS IS HUGE

WHY DIDNT DARKSTALKERS GET THIS

Why is Elf considered a separate class?

>>816290
Old AD&D rules if I'm not mistaken.

>>816290
D&D 1st edition rules

Dwarf, Elf and Hobbit were actual Classes

>>816321
Huh, weird

There's a demo for the game now on Steam.

>delicious brown girl

g-gurk

I'll just keep playing them on my Saturn.

>>816234
mfw this makes D&D even bigger in glorious nippon

SMOOTH MODE

SHITTY SNES FILTER

Is there any Beat em up brawler as complex as this from the arcade era?

Both girls are so good and fun

40-minute preview from PAXEast 2013:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw9UksgxrvQ


swollenmember.jpg

>>816861
Nothing else came close. Saves, multiple paths/endings, loot everywhere, side-scrolling brawler action, etc.,...

Can I play split screen?
Can my bro and I play split screen online (drop in out) together
I can't find a solid answer...

Okay guys, I've just dicked around with the demo, taking some screenshots for judging the various filters and shit.
You want me to upload them?

>>816950
>split screen belt-scroller
you are this retarded

and yes, you can drop in to your friends game, or vice versa.

>>814450
>shit filter
What does it add other than that and a border with tips taking up more screenspace?

>>816321
It's not weird if you first realize that D&D was and still is a fairly fucking terrible system and that they had no fucking idea what they were doing. D&D 3/3.5 are the best versions of it but they're still poorly designed. D&Ds strength was never in the system anyway, it was in the secondary goal after the whole war sim, which is people role-playing.

>>816950

>>816975
Thats not what I meant

>>816979
Thank you, this pretty much answers those questions.

I want to get it on ps3 but afraid the update will brick me...

>>816992
seriously are you a ratard?

>>816993
Sorry I'm just so used to saying split screen instead of Local Multi-player...
and that is very insensitive I prefer the term "mentally cheesed"

>>816980
D&D is at its worst when you take the rules verbatim and rules lawyer it the fuck up, but that's a story for /tg/.

Suffice it to say that it is what you make of it, and the people you play with determine your level of enjoyment.

I got it on steam.

It's a pretty good port. I'm no fan of the smooth filter.

Pixels all day erry day.

I don't have any friends.
Is there online matchmaking with randoms?

>>817034
I bet we'll be able to band together here on /vr/ every now and then.

None of my friends would play Mystara with me.

Hope more arcade games come to steam at reasonable prices.

Configuring MAME is a fucking bitch at times.

>>816941
Saves? WTF. You mean the Saturn version?

And it only takes about an hour to beat the game from start to finish using a single life (which is easily done with some practice). No saves are necessary.

>>816939

lmao @ those players constantly doing the kick attack. That's a sign that they're BUTTON MASHING.

SHadow over Mystara is possibly the only beat'em up in existence that discourages button mashing.

The best way to avoid getting the kick attack to come out in your combos (which is done by holding the button for too long) is

1) either be as fast as takahashi meijin

or

2) TIME your combo attacks. THis takes a lot of practice, but it can be done.

or

3) be a pussy and use autofire

#2 is your best bet if you don't want to be seen as a pussy like with #3.

>>817251
>easily done
Well, not really.
I got really close with the elf, gave up at the cave stage.

>>817254
Well then choose a class that can actually take hits. Like the fighter. The elf is the most fragile character in the game. Even moreso than the magic-user who has an infinite defensive invulnerability chain, and an awesome spell that makes him immune to everything but dragon fire.

>>817021
How is the multiplayer mode? Is there a waiting room where you can chat with others?

Can you play using a keyboard?

>>815835
>If Iron Galaxy is in charge like the majority of the ports, it oughta be real nice.

Apparently they are only in charge of the US ports. Capcom is doing the JP versions themselves and with some of the OG crew for the retail version. Kinda has me thinking of importing it since it has a nice LE too.

>>817272
oh shit. if capcom is doing the japanese version themselves i hope they update some shit and fix some bugs.

>>817272
It would be nice to compare the differences between the two versions. As, usual, modern Capcom's choices leave me as baffled as ever.

Hey guys.

Very bad news.

Keep in mind, that this is coming from me, a guy who has been playing Shadow over Mystara ever since it came out. I can beat the game with every single character without losing a life. I know this game like the back of my hand. I wrote a good portion of the wikipedia article on this game especially concerning gameplay and character specifics. So, please, understand that I know what I'm talking about.

This release is complete and utter shit. Complete and utter shit.

1) The default filter is hideous. I mean absolutely hideous.

2) If you use the DEFAULT filter then you get slower frames.

3) If you remove the filters then you do not get pixel aspect ratio, which means ugly pixel art. Furthermore, it doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel like 60 fps. Unfortunately, most people will leave the game on the default filter and that may cause compatibility issues with people who are running without any filters because they run at different frame rates.

3) The guys at Iron Galaxy shamelessly copied quotes from the wikipedia article, word for word at times. LMAO

Wow, talk about a shitty release. Those retards at Iron Galaxy just massacred this game for the Western Hemisphere.

My advice for you:

Do not get this. I was hyped up about this release at the thought of playing with others online, but this release is just completely fucked up.

Stick with your Saturn copy.

Stick with MAME and GGPO/Kaillera.

Wait for the official Japanese release which is done by Capcom themselves, not some shit third-party group like Iron Galaxy who probably doesn't even have a single developer who knows how to play the game properly.

>>818080
>those 3 things
$14 vs $100 bub. Tell me where to find a Saturn copy under $80 and I'll consider it.

>>818137

Just download the mame version.

I never said to do ALL 3 of those things. Those were OPTIONS.

Fine, then. I'm not going to stop you. Go buy the Iron Galaxy release. The filters are seriously hideous, and when you use them you don't even get the proper frame rate. You don't want to use filters? Fine, turn them off and get non-pixel aspect ratio for squished pixels.

Jesus Christ, this is how you do a limited edition.

>>818080
The sad thing about hearing that is that Darkstalkers Resurrection was a super great port. A shame to hear all that.

>>818080

I'm playing it with some bros right now and not having any issues. I'm using the default filter and I don't really see the issue here. Things aren't as jaggy but they aren't necessarily blurry for me either.

Also, I'm not experiencing any slowdown.

Perhaps its your TV?

YGSIU

commencing superior Alt versions dump

inafternoonegivesashit

I watched some videos of the Saturn version on youtube and didn't see a score table. Is there any incentive to one-credit the game?

>>816854
Good man.

>>818715
> Is there any incentive to one-credit the game?
Wut?
You joking?

>>818832
So is there a score table? The video I watched was of a guy who beat the game and never died, so maybe there is, I don't know.

>>818832
Just answer the freaking question!

>>818897
Just answer the freaking question, PLEASE.

Say it.

>>818715
Yes, you can see the score once you beat the game

>>818704
>dwarf
>not MTrs (manly tears)

>>819196

The /fa/ tripfag?
u wot m8?

>>817261

That isn't true. The Magic User is much more frail than the Elf. The Elf at least can block with the Shield where the Magic User must rely on teleport backdashes to avoid things outside of having a Displacer Cloak.

Am I the only one who liked the first game more?

>>819454

If you enjoy setting fire to your teammates that is lol.

>>819447
the elf tends to get hit more because she has the worst weapon reach out of ALL the characters.. REGARDLESS of whether you use a bastard sword or a short sword or the sword of legend. Her weapon reach remains THE SAME.

OTOH the magic-user rarely gets hit because
1) he has tons of spells, all of which are useful in crowd-clearing
2) his dash attack -> backdash "infinite" combo is very good and SAFE
3) he can cancel empty spell -> backdash repeatedly for invincibility. his backdash alone is godly
4) he has mirror image which he uses on enemies that are LIKELY to hit your character. thus he has no risk at all of getting hit on difficult enemies(bosses) that are LIKELY to hit your characters.

You're right though. the magic-user is more frail, but his style of play allows him to get hit less often.

>>819589

>Her weapon reach remains THE SAME.

Are you for real? That honestly can't be true.

She does have the best jumping downstab move in the game though and has a sliding attack (QCF+Attack) where as the magic user does not so reach shouldn't be that much of an issue.

I am boggled on why we aren't getting the special edition here. Am I missing some reason that this is Japan only?

>>819686
Because Capcom has a love-hate relationship with the west.
They want our money, but they passive-aggressively snub us at every opportunity.

>>819627

Oh it's true.

Also, the elf has SHIT reach on her QCF+atk.

and her jumping downstab is too situation-specific. no f-ing way is it the best in the game.

Hey, /vr/. Did YOU know that Moriah is a homage to Mariah from Jojo Bizarre Adventures?

>>819798
I played both games back at the time and I'm suprised I never realized it before.

>>819778
One more.

Notice how the hitbox does not cover the Slash effect? That's why that move whiffs so damn much. This is why the elf needs to be closer to the enmies than any other character when it comes to melee, and THAT is why she tends to get hit more.

Now.. if she had faster walking speed than the other characters (as is typical of female characters in beat'em ups) then that would make up for her short reach but EVERY single character has the same walking speed.

HOWEVER, on the plus side, her attacks typically come out about 1-2 frames faster than the other characters. but it doesn't make much of a difference.

(also, the magic user's dash attack comes out at 7 frames. which is the same number of frames for the fighter's normal slash. that's why it's so fucking good, and can be used in "infinite" combos when combined w/ the backdash)

>>819821

I always liked the Elf downstab due to the fact i can just literally stay in the air forever bouncing off people.

>>819798
Also the elf is a 'homage' to Deedlit from Record of Lodoss War. Which is like anime meets Dungeons and Dragons, for the uninitiated.

>>819821
That's pretty shitty. No wonder I always try her, then go back to the fighter.

>>820089
almost literally, since it's based on a campaign the creators played. although being in japan, it was probably sword world rather than dnd.

>>820204
They originally played DnD and then developed Sword World for license reasons.

This game is just no fun with infinite continues. It should have a max of 9.

>>819216
>ZYZZ
>Fighter
don't say that wasn't intentional.

>>820338
nigga iz you serious?

1 life is enough. especially considering that you can find healing items all over the place, and you have rings of healing that you can use whenever you want.

>>821627
I just completed on easy and it took me 30 credits, guessing I need some practise.

>>816979
>Co-op
>Local co-op
This is probably a stupid question, but does this mean I'll be able to play online with friends? I know local means we can do it together, but what if I wanna play with my bros on the East Coast?

>>821664
Co-Op usally means regional (eg. US, Euro, SE Asia), if not worldwide, depending on the game.
It's almost always platform specific, though.

>>821680
Yeah, figured it'd be platform specific. Just none of my friends who are interested in this kind of game live close to me, so only local co-op would be limited in use.

Thanks.

Got the PS3 version yesterday. Shadow just keeps going

>>819454
>No special moves
>less classes
>less items
>less enemies
>more blatant DIE NOW LOL bullshit token taking moments
Yes. Yes you are.

>>818080
You are literally the only person I've heard complain about any of those things in that post.

>>820338

It should really have a max of maybe 2-4 credits per player.