/vr/ - Retro Games

What are your thoughts on PC 98 fan games?

I don't speak fucking japanese and no pc98 games are gameplay focused enough to allow me to play
And I can't afford to order a pc98 on ebay either

Are physical copies of PC-98 games as obscure as they seem, or am I looking in the wrong places?

As per usual!

THIS IS NOW A LAKERS THREAD

>>8127547
hmmmm...bobs

>>8127526
That neko emulator for the PC-98 works like a charm and there are rom dumps online too, no need to order the original hardware.

>>8127547
Based.

>>8127562
I have a working PC-9821 but I totally understand why people rely on emulation in this case. It can be a hassle.

>>8127562
Emulation isn't real
>>8127924
And you can't give it to me? Or teach me japanese? Fuck this

>>8127941
If you pay for the machine and shipping.

>>8127941
a number of the games are translated even some of the untranslated games are fully playable for non japanese speakers

>>8127562
>>8127924
>>8127973
>>8128082
These are not certified Lakers posts! You will only be blessed with grand oppai and hueg pauldrons if you keep it Lakers!!!

>>8128271
It'd be something if there was Lakers content that wasn't
- official
- nsfw
- Natsune
The overlap in this Venn diagram is very small to the point it doesn't exist.

>>8128390
I posted a screenshot of gameplay. You could upload a screen of your favorite maps/enemies?

for me, it's strip mahjong

>>8128271
>>8127547

>>8127547
Other than the girls having large breasts what's the appeal of Lakers?

>>8129049

Did someone say Lakers?

>You find a floppy disc lying around on the street.
>You insert it in the floppy drive of your DOS-compatible computer and execute the program you find inside.
>The program takes a while to run and the FD activity light blinks continuously, although there are some moments it turns off entirely for a while.
>Pic related finally comes out of the screen. Thankfully, she is alive, although unconscious.

What do you do?

>>8129338
I'll take "Things that will never happen" for 100, Alex"

Been thinking of playing the sequel to Dragon Master Silk. Eventually.

>>8129403
You never know

>>8129338
>>8129414
I'll give her what she wants... pauldrons .

>/vr/, time for your daily dose!

>>8129186
based

I've been using the following website lately, which has reviews of lots of PC-98 ADV games. Probably you already know about it but I have found it to be pretty useful so far for deciding which games to try.

https://advgamer.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-979.html

>>8129839
lethal injection? OH BOY!

>>8130245
Wrong, it's an enema for anon.

>>8129186
>dont

people rave about the visuals on pc98 games and I won't disagree about them over that but some of these pc98 games have a killer fucking soundtrack. How the fuck were they so talented back then they could make simple stuff into some really comfy music?

>>8130539
And what about the excellent manual aesthetics in lots of games?

>>8130539
Come on anon, post some songs you like!

>>8130554

Interview.

>>8131186
>a third of this page is talking about Natsune's tits

>>8131191

>>8128964
What's wrong with your setup m8? L@L
>>8129186
Yep, make it and keep it LAKERS!!!

>>8131186
>>8131191
>>8131194
So, why do three guys appear like they work in the JAV industry?
The one in the middle, in particular, appears to be a low-level yakuza.
Anyway, I hope they were successful in breaking into the video game industry.

>>8130539
Good OST:
- Desire; Eve (Umemoto)
- Viper CTR
- PC98 Raidy I
- Night Slave
- Cosmic Psycho

>>8127509
>tfw you want to play pc-98 games
>don't know japanese
why do i gotta be so stupid /vr/os

>>8131273
You can learn anon, even if you are actually stupid (which I doubt). It may take awhile, but the language is just confusing more than anything. Don't believe retards who say it's impossible or too hard, I'm a dropout who has never achieved anything and I learned Japanese so I believe you can too.

>>8131273
>>8131334
If you don't want to spend years learning japanese, you can also get a version of Neko project that works with a text hook so you can automatically google translate and get more or less basic understand of what's going on.

>>8130539
I can't find the song by itself but power slave sex song always makes me fucking laugh. It sounds like a damn puzzle or trivia game song.
https://youtu.be/lI7Z2AVhZqQ?t=5987

>>8129839
Time sure flies~

Who could have guessed that 30 years later Folles would star in her own game(while wearing cute chinese clothing no less!)

>>8131191
and that's a good thing!

>>8131202
emulators is shitting itself if we do a little bit much alt+tab

Quick, how will you save her?!

>>8132673
Remember him that despite making up only 13% of the videogame titles, PC98 games were 48% eroge.

>>8132693
>tfw 48% only

>>8132184
Man this game sucked hard, I refuse to believe it wasn't rushed for a little extra money before shutting down the company. It really hurts, I loved this character...

I really want to play Dragon Knight IV but afaik there's no english patch for it and it seems story heavy

I love stories about a guy who time travels to undo his past, so I'm vainly hoping someone knows of a patch somewhere that I missed

>>8133027
To be honest I just dig the Lodoss rip-off.

I'm sure it will translated someday.

>>8133027
>>8133091
Hey I was right, and it's going to come out sooner than expected :)
https://utreon.com/v/2DVvE9fuakM

>>8133096
Well fuck me then, I had no idea. That's great news.

>>8127526
>no pc98 games are gameplay focused enough to allow me to play
Flame Zapper Kotsujin
the ending is even in broken english but anyway nobody cares about it

Honestly? It probably takes less time to learn Japanese reading fundamentals than it does to wait for something you want translated to come out. Yet even if it is translated there's still a layer between your understanding and the author's intent.

But then there's also the problem of learning Japanese and discovering that your media is less smart than you originally thought.

Has anyone played Slayers? Is the SNES version inferior or superior?
(If I'm not mistaken, the PC98 version is a dungeon crawler, but the SNES version is a classic JRPG.)

>>8132707
Alicesoft will never go full SNK-autism, starting to buy the rights of Sogna, Elf and Zyx games.

what key do pc-98 vns typically use for the backlog function or did it not exist back then

>>8133846
I don't think it existed back then.

what are the best animated pc98 sex scenes

>>8134038
Love Escalator

>>8134038
>animated
I don't think there are many...

>>8134038
Sogna's games

>>8134061
same company who made SISTERS

>>8134078
Fake taxi, before it is cool.

>>8134038
>>8134083

Hey look it's my wife.

>>8134636
I have this saved on my computer from a decade back, but never found out what it's from. I'd love some source so I can sadpanda it.

>>8134642
hey buddy...the filename's right there.

>>8134642
>>8134645 speaks gold.

>>8131431
I wonder if anyone got that working with DeepL... I personally found the translations from there not as gibberish as Google Translate for some reason.

>>8134710
Well, is there a way to make Textractor use DeepL?

>>8134723
idk bro. maybe?

MY QUEEN

Bros my Hiragana went well but why am I struggling so much more with katakana. Then after that I actually have to learn vocabulary.
Kanji on top of that is so intimidating, I'm struggling to stick with it

>game is on pc98 and saturn
>have to choose between better graphics or voice acting
shit

>>8135073
what game

>>8135073
Saturn has more colors too

>>8135037
>Kanji on top of that is so intimidating
It is, but, it's genuinely attainable. It’s just a matter of time.

There was a fantasy series I read as a kid called Myth Adventures. The protagonist is an apprentice mage, and the first book starts with him struggling and failing to light a candle with magic. A couple of books of shenanigans and adventures later, there's a chapter that opens with him lighting and snuffing a candle over and over again just to marvel at how easily he can do it after all he’s been through.
Even though Japanese is just something I'm used to now, from time to time I still marvel that I can light the candle. It's pretty cool.

Also I recommend Myth Adventures; it’s a fun series. It’s in English and won’t help your Japanese studies, though.

>>8131273
>>8131334
>>8131431
learn japanese

>>8131270
I know Kantori did art for another visual novel on the PS2, but I don't know what else he did beyond that. I imagine they all went by pseudonyms, as "made that strat rpg porno series you were jerking it to in the early 90s" doesn't sound like it sets the resumes a glowing.

>>8130539
one of the big things is that the instrument choices don't suck
some soft bells, some nice bass, almost nothing too harsh or buzzy even though the sound chip is directly related to the one in the Genesis
and one huge thing composers do is detune channels slightly from each other to give the sound some richness

>>8127509
>nothing special at all
That could be said for every single Japanese computer game.

>>8127547
that "art" looks like shit

>>8131202
This thread is for LAMERS

>>8136245
Hmmm no, you're just a big homo.

there is no porn chess game on these computers?

>>8135106
not the poster but maybe steam hearts? and he's not talking about the gameplay graphics I think.

>>8136337
I don't think there is. Tons of strip mahjong or card games, but no chess.
The closest to chess would be Wonpara Wars >>8134674

>thread devolves into how do I learn jap.
Every single time

>>8137292
It's not like there's a lot of conversation.
- Only a small number of games have been translated (and at best we discuss the quality of amateur translation)
- Excellent design (and the usual eroge stuff)
- Amazing soundtracks
- Breasts of the Lakers
- Various forms of waifuism (Lina; Natsume Tachibana; Erin; Asuka and so on)
- Some rare untranslated RTS / SIM is rarely mentioned.

This is how PC98 subjects usually function.

>finally her defenses are low enough for me to possibly kill her
>she sleeps me and kills me before I wake up
Literally impossible. Play Battle Skin Panic.

I was so disappointed when the "translation" actually only translates menus & items' name.

Don't

what was the platform like in terms of action games?

How obscenely adorable is that?

>>8137330
Natsune. Two N's.

>>8138167
>Two N
Subtle.

Which is the one where the tentacles 'get' the girls and then afterwards you get a 100% level clear screen like it's some kind of sex comedy. That was a good one.

>>8138167
>n cups
人間じゃない!

Hey, does anyone know how to properly rip pc-98 3.5in floppies?
I downloaded Multi Floppy Image Converter, and Virtual Floppy image converter, and a three mode USB floppy drive but I don't know what them and I'd rather not ruin my floppies.
I'd also take advice on how to just run the games off of them in like an emulator or something, if anyone knows how.
(I'm also 80% sure the floppies are HDs at this point)

>>8138167
>Two N's.
Donn't

>>8130564
>That Filename in Catalan
Where do you get that image anon?

>>8129186
more like Lickers

Brandish 3 translation when?

>>8139243
Wait is 2 even translated?

>>8140226
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/1442/
http://www.romhacking.net/translations/3327/

>>8139243
I thought the Brandish games got ported/remade.

>>8140318
God damn I know what I'm going to do this week-end, thanks anon!

>>8138978
Based

>>8140523
only the PSP version of 1

>>8140226
2 got translated fair recently
3 is untranslated and VT had some sort of translated that's hard to find on the web

>>8140535
Gonna nut bros.

>>8137225
>Wonpara Wars
thanks, looks interesting

>>8137330
>- Only a small number of games have been translated (and at best we discuss the quality of amateur translation)
3 years ago i used automatic translation with ITHVNR and given the level of japanese, everything was perfectly understandable. but then it started not working because google started blocking it and now i don't know where it's at. if anyone still uses that i'm interested to know

>>8130539
The sound cards in those PCs got the best yamaha FM chips, like the ones they used in the arcades, while consoles like Mega Drive got a budget dumbed-down chips with less channels/algos. The sound engineers were geniuses who knew how to use them properly, like Masahiro Kajihara, he not only composed his own music but also programmed a PMD music driver which was then used by him and many other composers to make music.
There is tons of great soundtracks, some of them are really obscure and I can't even find anywhere (PC-98 Slayers has some nice tracks, but it's not on vgmrips or youtube, only listenable through hoot).
Posting some tracks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMr8F9Boqqw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrzS-_BaIvQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51iID4__4JQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBy14Kpnhmc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiXUKgE_BS8

>>8146468
>hole chaser

>>8146468
Goddamn it this music slaps.

>>8139221
It's a snap of a page of the manual of Hatsukoi Monogatari. The PDF is at NeoKobe.

>>8146771
Reminds me of that scene from Back to the Future where Marty gets blown off by sound from a giant speaker.

>>8146771
Me too pantless anime girl, me too.

>>8131273
I've been enjoying going through Wani Kani so far. Teaches you the radicals, which then builds into kanji and then vocab. On level 7 of the total 60 (they estimate it takes about 1.5 to 2 years to get through it)

Caution though, it only teaches you kanji and vocab, you will need an other source for grammar. They say its best to start grammar when you hit roughly level 10.

If you do use WK, it can be easy to burn out because you will hit a point of having 100-200 flash cards a day (scattered throughout the day). I recommend using the phone app and setting the lesson reviews to no more then 15 (I use 10) reviews a session.

>>8146468
don't forget this classic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6CMur1Y8ds

>>8148918

>>8150039
>Popaye
Clever, but would a men's fashion magazine really be the sort of thing to publish a guide on how to have sex?

>>8149659
>if sex is so good why isn't there se...

>>8150551
Is there actual gameplay to Sex 2 or is it just porn?

>>8152378
they added actual love and hand holding.

I know it's a pc-88 game, but did you guy play Mirror's recent fan translation?
What did you think?

>>8152652
Link?

>>8152734
Patched game + emu: https://archive.org/details/Mirrors-PC-8801-MC-English-Translation-v1.0

>>8152790
Danke

>>8152793
If you want to have extra fun, you can also try to figure out the actors and movies most of the characters were ripped from.
For instance, the two detectives are ripped straight out from a mid 1980s french movie.

>>8155107

>>8155107
>Waist 58 cm
>Bust 94 ? cm
lmao

>>8155968
Mystery weight too

>>8155107
Never got the appeal of cartoon proportions.

>>8155107
Why does she even need a lifesaver, those tits will either replace it easily or pull her straight to the bottom like a pair of cement shoes.

>>8127509
i've never played these and likely i never will, but some of the images from these games are heartbreakingly beautiful

>>8130539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS0MPBCwTVM

>>8158723
>the 80s-early 90s anime aesthetic is gone forever

>>8158723
>>8159248
You guys don't like the upgraded remakes?

OST Variable Geo PC-98, pure soul.

>>8158671
Sometimes I wonder if the sizes are just written randomly by the designers and developers, or if they are determined during the early planning stages.
Preparatory drawings: Erin is the same height as Jun.
Guide/Game: Jun is twelve centimeters taller than Erin.

Whatever the case may be, I tend to forget that the characters in these games are mostly manlets who are rarely taller than 180 centimeters.

>>8159248
Variable Geo was repurposed by GIGA, and all of the characters are pseudo-lolis. Feels Bad.

>>8159253
God, I hate these sorts of remakes. Why even remake it if you will give it shit art?
The Yu-no one also gets me, by god.

>>8159278
Why do japs love long legs so much?

>>8159902
Okay, fine, I won't ragebait you with comparison pictures of the two versions.

But what about Langrisser?

>>8160174
Hatred is a strong word but it works here. It's not like the original artist wasn't working any longer, they could've hired him. Why change for worse art?
And you can ragebait me all you want, I'm almost enjoying getting mad at this

Anyone got the fdi for this one? It's on youtube, but i wanna play it myself if possible.

>>8160241
I don't read nip, what's the name of the game?

>>8159278
I remember hearing a rumor about how initially the V.G. stood for "Virgin Girls" when it was under development and changed to Variable Geo before release. The game certainly has a lot of quirks.

In doujinshi Jun is paired with Terry Bogard because they both are American and can use Power Wave.

>>8160334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhH-jfHUlqs
Planets of Dragon. Can't find it in usual packs and places tho.

>>8159253
SOVL
soulless unironically VGH

>>8159278
>that feel when this anime was proto Queen's Blade

>>8160432
Sorry anon, I just have HDM and HDI.

>>8161010
Isn't that just preinstalled one? Upload it on anonfiles or something anyway, please.

I played EVO: The Theory of Evolution through PC-98 emulation. It's neat.

>>8158671
Is that by Kimura?

>>8160128
It's a Kimura thing, he always draws characters like that. He's also incapable of drawing a girl that isn't hot.

>>8160228
I dunno man, have you seen some of his recent art? They might've been been better off just using the original art.

>>8161420
How recent you mean? I have some artbooks by him and the art looks fine. Nothing like the Late 90's-00's of the Dragon Half dude or Masamune Shirow, Urushihara is still quite well

>>8161445
well the modern examples of his art I have seen are from like 7 years ago or more, so he might have improved since then. But still His digital style just isn't the same, and I don't think it ever will be.

>>8161509
What I could see from difference is mostly his art being brighter now but that always happens when someone goes from tradicional to digital, and that's easily fixable when working with a company.
But if it was something like Shirow's transformation, I would understand.

>>8161445
>Urushihara is still quite well
Isn't he half-blind now?

>>8161445
>>8161509
Again you can just check his blog for new images, here's one. . . You can just fucking L@@K. He's the same as 15 years or so back. That's not modern in any way.

>>8161659
Not that I know of but that "well" was a brainfart, I meant "good".

>>8161683
Yeah he can still do his job, it's just not like he was young, and Langrisser art can still be very good since that image I posted was a girl from Langrisser 3.

>>8161728
I mean Growlanser 3 AND Langrisser 3. Sry. So he's drawing girls he did 18 years ago, and 26 years ago just fine.

>>8161107
Here you go. Sorry I had to take a pic, the site wouldn't let me post the url.

>>8161681
>tfw bush-enjoyer

>>8161681
What's that artist called? I remember finding his hentai stuff at local comic shops as a kid, blew my mind at the time . Plastic Little?

Not a retro game but i liked this remix i found
https://youtu.be/qj6wAat_mFk

>>8162438
Satoshi Urushihara

>>8135605
Anki never wants to work on my ancient computer. Woe is me

>>8146771
>slaps
Shine.

>>8134083
was sogna and umitsuki the only ones making animated visual novels for the system?

>>8162537
A couple of ZyX games (Trigger - Interactive Digital Animation), each consisting of three small episodes, incorporate various animated scenes.
The animations and drawings are of poor quality.

>>8160416
Yuka is hard to separate in my head from early 2000s web design

>>8162537
Himeya Soft did a few too:
Zenith https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp5-3r6KYus
De.FaNa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoCovI5Ek48

>>8164498
>2000s
bit erroneous

>>8162397
Wtf mang, I think all his girls are really good looking. His best are mages.

>>8160416
>VG max and Advanced VG 2 are really good fighting games
>series instead dies after just going eroge VN route

real shame,

>>8164778
yukatakeuchifan memories.

>>8159253
>>8160174
God every time I see these horrible redesigns I get so mad. But at the very least we got remasters of Desire and Eve: Burst Error that look really, really good. Probably because they used the original line-art.

>>8165360
Nice hoverhand, faggot

>>8165032
no idea what you think "bush-enjoyer" means, but it does not mean what you apparently think it means.

>>8165360
>>8165620
For me, it's Puddin'.

>>8127509

I find a lot of Studio Soft Wing's games really interesting. They're high on the "Man, I wish these would get translated" list (or the "Maybe I SHOULD learn Japanese list).

The Shiro to Kuro No Densetsu ganes, Destruction, Onryo Senki, they all seem interesting, with fairly minimalist and gritty art (with some neat visual tricks thrown in), which ranged from the chiptune to supplemental cassette soundtracks.

https://youtu.be/AXSA1IlUw-8
https://twitter.com/DragEnRegalia/status/1231702323983941639

>>8167293
>the "Maybe I SHOULD learn Japanese list
No such thing of you're over 20.

>>8161420
>>8161509
He's been doing covers for Comic Masyo every month for the last decade as well as illustrations for other magazines. He's still got the touch.
Shirow still does illustrations, for Comic Anthurium generally. Still blending oddly glossy or lifelike rendering with obvious CG and his... stylized anatomy for pinups. A bit better than what he did when he started messing with mixing CG in.

Westboo time...
Ultima; Wizardry; Syndicate; Popolous; Theme Park; Pirates; Civilization. Have there been any other Western titles released on PC-98?

>>8170001
https://www.mobygames.com/game/pc98/mechwarrior

>>8160432
It's on NeoKobe, tho.
https://ia800100.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/22/items/NeoKobe-NecPc-98012017-11-17/ASCII.zip

>tfw never got to experience games like these
>the only similar game I played was Knights of Xentar for an hour or so on my 486 DX computer.

Young me probably wouldn't have appreciated it as much as it deserves.

>>8169532
I started in my 40s

>>8169931
how can 3dpd ever hope to compete

>>8127547
いいでしょ!そんなこと、どうだって。それより、なんか用事があったんじゃなかったの?

>>8173541
用事なんかといえば分からないけど、橘さんのおっぱいを触りたい!

guess this is my oppertunity to ask: I have an old pc98 I picked up from what I assume was a factory, but Im kind of at a loss of how to hook it up to a modern vga monitor. Also is it safe to plug into a standard american wall outlet? Also after I remove the rust from the inside case, what do I do to prevent it from coming back?

no idea

>>8127547
懐かしい!コレ大好きだったんだけど,あんまり置いてなかったんだよなー。(´;ω;｀)ｳｯ

>>8173913
I don't know which models, but past a certain point PC-98 machines started supporting the GRPH+2 key combo to switch to 31khz video mode. I think you need to hold it down when booting?

>>8175609
>I don't know which models
https://nfggames.com/forum2/index.php?topic=5772.0
There's a post here that says
>you need a monitor that supports a 24kHz horizontal frequency, or a scan converter like the XPC-4. Some of the later V models can be switched to standard VGA frequency by holding GRPH+2 during boot, but older models (like the A mates and C mates, and all pre-9821 models) definitely require a compatible display.

>>8167293
care to post more examples of their art

>>8175000
>>8173585
>>8173541
HWAT IN TARNATION ARE YOU FOLKS A'JAW'IN BOUT?!

>>8127524
>PC 98 fan games?
Do they exist?

>>8169931
booba