/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8138102
Some of this art makes me wonder what the game could've been like if it wasn't on the GameBoy Advance. It could've had a completely different feel if it ended up on N64 or GameCube.

This in particular looks 2000s as shit.

>>8138113
I like this one the most.

This one looks really odd considering the tone of the game. It's easy to see Peach, Bowser, Prince Peasley, Mario, and Luigi, but I can't tell what the Toad looking thing on the left is supposed to be.

>>8138113
....is mario doing the fucking sa1 pose

>>8138151
Looks like shit

>>8138163
Looks like it. My guess is that they may have been wanting to imitate the attitude and style of Sonic at that time to make Mario seem more "cool." The art seems to come from a guy who was credited as a sound engineer, Isago Fukuda.

>>8138173
It's my least favorite of the bunch which is why I posted it last. Here's a fake N64-styled Superstar Saga render instead.

>>8138102
Something about the coloration and posing reminded me of this book cover, even if it's just using existing renders.

I used to read the author's novelizations of the Pokemon anime, apparently this was an original story. It used bits and pieces of locations from Super Mario RPG, but with Luigi and Yoshi involved. Only thing that really sticks out about it from a plot summary is that Wario takes the place of Booster, and throws buckets from a plane. That, and there's a sticker with a Bob-Omb render we don't see anywhere else.

Really impressed by some of those landscapes.

>>8138201
The Bob-Omb render, fwiw

>>8138201
this one's weird since it mentions smrpg locations but no mention of geno, mallow or any boss from the game.
i think they do mention frogfucious tho which is fucking crazy since square owns him too lol

>>8138201
Can't get over the vibes of those shitty Boo renders. It was rare they actually looked like that in the games though. I can only hope there's more upscaling projects like the Render96 mod for Super Mario 64 that actually makes the Boos look like their original prerenders.

Yoshi's Island is still my favourite Mario. Followed by Mario World and Mario 3. The 3D Mario games are alright, but they don't hold a candle to classic 2D Mario. Maybe I'm just nostalgic.

>genuinely wanted them both in smash since i adore smrpg
>get called faggot and cringe by zoomies since they're not le epix final fantasy 7 wank or epix third party character from the playstation
i want to die

hello everyone! mario fact autist here, any games or characters in specific you guys would like to know more about? or any specific plot points, objects, really anything specific.

>>8138258
idk shoot away

>>8138243
Yoshi's Island is a comfy vibe, it's a shame we didn't get a proper 3D Yoshi game similar to how Donkey Kong and Wario got 3D games, would've been amazing to explore 3D environments in the SNES Yoshi's Island artstyle.

>>8138258
Spill everything you know about Superstar Saga.

Question - the meme goes 'Bing Bing Wahoo', but has Mario ever said 'Wahoo' in any of the games?

>>8138270
long jump in 64 retard

>>8138254
The people who shit on Geno and Mallow have never cared about Mario worldbuilding, hating them is considered trendy. I'd love to see an actual appearance from them, doesn't matter if it's Smash Bros or an actual Mario game.

>>8138262
this reminded me of Yoshi's Safari because shoot, so here's a Yoshi's Safari fact.
Probably well known at this point but the original damage sprites had Yoshi's nose bleeding.
>>8138268
I know a lot but I'll dump a bit in the next few posts I make. For now, Did you know that the sound for a battle starting is the same sound as the Power-Up sound in SML2: Six Golden Coins?
>>8138270
What >>8138273 said, although I probably wouldn't have called you a retard.

>>8138258
Have the Donut Blocks always been as lengthy as they are in Super Mario 64? Something about the art in SMB3 and World made me feel they were more narrow, but we never see them anything but head-on within the game.

Also curious about the early variations in Luigi's personality, I see occasional pieces where he's played up as greedy (that OVA) or hotheaded (the live-action movie) and it makes me curious how other media handled it. Especially how Nintendo moved towards the timid Luigi (around the Paper Mario/Superstar Saga/Luigi's Mansion era if I'm not mistaken?)

>>8138296
In Yoshi's Island, not World, my bad

>>8138273
Thats Yahooooooo! WAHOO is what klonoa screams autisticly

>>8138292
at this point i'd even settle for them to show up in the gacha mario kart
i wouldn't even care i'd paypig for them

>>8138270
He has a Wahoo in Mario vs. Donkey Kong, IIRC the noise for jumping on a spring
https://youtu.be/CSH9JU4Iplc

>>8138296
I thought they were shorter too, weird. I specifically remember playing 3D Land and dying because I missed a jump to the small donut blocks in that one ice level. weird.

Luigi's personality was all over the damn place, especially early on since in-game there were usually very few distinguishing features between the two bros. There is a Mario Bros. Atari 2600 and 5200 commercial that shows Luigi as a bit cowardice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnU-2HRJNO4

Not totally familiar with a lot of really old mario media (anything pre-smb) but there probably is more.

I miss German wario/90s Wario

>>8138379
blegh thats the worst wario

>>8138394
Have a rotten day

>>8138341
Thanks anon, great compliment to the DK Jr. ad from the Rare Marios thread. Also found this in the recommended videos, bizarre to hear a "here we go" pre-Martinet https://youtu.be/Amu1jfsM65c

Older Mario media really feels like a rabbit hole with strange alternate rules

>>8138394
You mean the most iconic Wario.
I GOTTA WIN, OH MY GOD, SO EIN MIST, BWUAAA.

>>8138470
>OH MY GAWD

>>8138470
Have a rotten day!

>>8138258
Can I ask about music tracks or is that outside of your knowledge range?

>>8138558
it depends on the track, but I might be able to fish some stuff up or know a bit. hit me with it

>>8138102
why is the artist's name censored

>>8138258
Do partners in time.

>>8138151
A variant of..?

>>8138213
>no mention of geno
Based fuck that literal faggot puppet

>>8138681
go back to smash threads in /v/ you absolute daft cunt

>>8138598
I had a question but after second reconsideration its probably way too autistic and requires actual hours of research so I don't blame you if you have no idea.

I was gonna ask if this list is accurate. I'm making a Smash Bros music list where every game from every series is represented by an original track. The ones for Mario in pic related are the ones that have no original tracks (aka only remixes of existing tracks), or something else otherwise stated.

Is this accurate?

Ain't never played no Mario game. Hope a nes or something falls in my lap with a copy of mario. Mario seems cool. Always wanted to play mario rpg.

>>8138689
>noooo don't talk about my gay ass fag puppet with manboobs
Neck yourself you sore negro

>>8138703
Mario RPG is my favorite game in the series and in general.

>>8138705
He's a possessed action figure, that's probably the joint for the top part.
That's just my interpretation.
The design is still stupid.

>>8138695
The cd version of mario teaches typing 1 has a unique rap song made for it on the disc

>>8138720
Nice! That will count. Will add it to my other list and remove it from the one I posted.

>>8138258
Anything from Sunshine?

>>8138661
No clue, could've been early titles for Superstar Saga, dates, or other information that isn't supposed to be leaked. We apparently know who the artist is, but the blurred text does make it seem kind of fishy.

>>8138695
Mario Advance 2 has a few extra songs, as well as Mario Advance 1. I'm unsure about Mario Advance 3 but Advance 4 definitely has new tracks

Aswell, I think Super Mario Run's results screen music is unique? some of the comments on yt video say it's just the beat to NSMB Wii's Bonus Game, not totally sure about that however.

Apologies if you already knew some / all of this by now. These are the only ones I know off the top of my head.

>>8138695
Might not count, but I think some of the stage music from the Mario Bros. minigame in the Advance titles is original?

https://youtu.be/cx_rP3ggdBo

>>8138664
The title screen / boot up noises change depending on who is in your party on your save. If you're currently playing as only the babies, then you will only hear and see the babies. etc.
>>8138789
Super Mario Sunshine is, as far as I know, the only mainline Mario game without a unique invincibility theme. Come to think of it, were there any actual power-ups besides Yoshi and Fludd?

>>8138846
It's in every copy of every game titled Mario Advance, don't see why it wouldn't count. The same game and music is also in Superstar Saga!

>>8138846
Doesn't the Mario Bros remake in all the Advance games feature its own unique looping music the arcade original never had?

>>8138863
Nvm im retarded thats what you were saying.

>>8138863
>>8138869
Yeah, unless it's a remix of a song I've never heard. It uses remixes of SMB1's overworld and underground music in some areas, so I wouldn't be surprised if the "main" music had another source.

>>8138847
I believe the same is also true for Bowser's Inside Story where it will switch between Mario & Luigi or Bowser saying "Nintendo" depending on who's in the party. I can't tell or remember if the instruments for the title theme are different though.

>>8138847
Not unless you count 1-ups and Yoshi.

>>8138847
Not an invincibility theme but it sounds like it could've been one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eypXhf8mlkM

>>8138846
There you go! Seems to be an original arrangement, I guess it makes sense why I couldn't find it in the playlists I had since a lot of people seperated it. I think it counts since Advance is the name of the collection of both remakes specifically. Thank you, added.
>>8138830
I'll try and do a deeper dive on the Super Mario Advance series but its hard since even some of the seemingly unique tracks are remixes as well. For example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osh5zUc85TM is a remix of a Super Mario RPG track, out of everything.

As for the Super Mario Run results screen theme, it does seem to be unique! But its not quite what i'm looking for in the project but I will certainly note it down just in case. Thanks!

Always makes me smile a little when music from one subseries pops up in unexpected places.

https://youtu.be/a658NJUBZ9o
https://youtu.be/nPJTki45Ogg
https://youtu.be/gSTh7giLQco
https://youtu.be/ltJ8flrw52g

>>8138943
Super Mario World on GBA felt like a completely different game from the SNES version, which is a bit weird considering all the other Advance games feel pretty similar to the games they're remastering.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEqDZWhJOT0

>>8138957
how so? looked and felt pretty similar to me. do you get that same feeling from playing SMA3 compared to YI?

>>8138963
I swear there's levels I played in the GBA version that are slightly altered from the SNES version, the one I remember in particular was the Ghost House with the green orbs feeling different which I think they altered so it was easier to fly through. They're technically the "same game" but the controls and overall feel of the games are different.

I never played Yoshi's Island and SMA3 extensively enough to understand each game and the differences between them. I ended up playing the GBA version first when it came to Yoshi's Island actually.

The only Super Mario Advance game that I think is superior to it's original version is SMA4: Super Mario Bros. 3.

>>8138295
Speaking of the gigaleak, were there any other Mario art assets that were leaked that are of note? I know that some Super Mario 64 renders were found, is there anything else like that?

>>8138952
The mario rpg music in fortune street was a nice surprise. Too bad square didn't throw the characters from it in as playable.

>>8138984
No art assets as far as I know, though plenty of unused mario graphics, sprites, etc. from various games

>>8139001
Shame. I really want to see the more of the artwork we have in high quality like the one's you've been posting.
I guess maybe i'm being a bit too greedy but we still have 2 more TERABYTES of stuff to go through. They have to have a lot of it since Smash Ultimate spirit artwork uses very clean scans, right?

>>8139010
I'm not sure, never was a big smash guy. Stuff like that is pretty much another language to me

>>8139010
In the meantime, there's shit tons of fanart too. I feel like the only official artwork that would be interesting to find would be the ones that feature concepts that aren't used in any game or feel like their own original piece.

>>8138292
>pea soup colored bowser

No retro, but I miss Thunder Dragon's fan games. They were the best.
>Toad Strikes Back
>Toadette Strikes
>Psycho Waluigi

>>8138270
he says it in a few of the Gamecube games IIRC like Sunshine and Double Dash

>>8138201
Oh god, I actually remember that book. It was bizarre, being entirely centered on solving word & number riddles to save the day.

>>8138681
>30-something man raging about a mario character

Recommend me some good SMW hacks, guys.

>>8138296
They were shorter in Super Mario RPG.

>>8138661
Cancel Culture

>>8139604
Yoshi Strange Quest

>>8138849
mario if he real

>>8138258
Why is it not advantageous to perform a half A press instead of a full A press?

>>8141835
no idea, ask pannen. He's probably in these threads that autistic motherfucker

>>8138258
What is, in your opinion, the proper mario timeline?

>>8141858
Timeline as in a plot timeline? I'd have to write one up. Despite what a lot of people think, there is a little bit of plot consistency. Stay tuned, I guess.

>>8141873
Based

>>8139604
You ever checked pic related?

>>8138849
mario if he real

>>8141858
>>8141873
So, as I'm starting this, I realize this is going to be a multi-day long, hell probably even week-long project. I'm going by what Kosmicd12 categorizes as a "mainline" mario game. but there is no clear consensus on what is and isn't mainline. So I used his list as reference, which has 18 total games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgqwB7Bx16Q

Here is what I have so far. What do you think, gentlemen? Feel free to give me advice or plot points I have forgotten or gotten wrong.

>>8142015
ah fuck, already see a mistake, should switch mario 1 and mario 2 (jp) spots. I'm making this up as I go along so shit like this will probably happen again

>>8142009
>toads impales on pikes
Yeah, no thanks.

>>8142015
Super Mario Bros. 1 and The Lost Levels happen parallel to each other in "parallel worlds" so they're more like, side by side
I also have tons of notes for the other games on where they appear in the timeline so if you need help just (you) me.

>>8142015
>>8142378
Also, if you want to do more games outside the main ones I have stuff for those as well, like BS Super Mario USA being a direct sequel and where the Yoshi's Island games fall.

>>8142015
>Not going to lie anon I'm getting schizo vibes from that image.

>>8142015
Not going to lie anon I'm getting schizo vibes from that image.

>>8142015
Don't let >>8142426 >>8142423 discourage you, anon. I want to see the full thing, schizo or not

>when does Donkey Kong 94 take place in the mario canon?

>>8142589
Its a retelling of the original Donkey Kong, so its before DKJR

>>8141858
>>8142413
Personally, I always go by release date order unless there's a significant reason. The Yoshi's Island games would obviously go Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Story (first entry in the franchise) -> Yoshi's New Island (interquel) -> Yoshi's Island DS (sequel). Then you have Super Mario World releasing between the first two Super Mario Land games, but Super Mario Land 2 apparently takes place right after Super Mario Land, while Super Mario World takes place sometime after Super Mario Bros. 3, so I usually put them in the order of World -> Land -> Land 2. Super Mario Galaxy 2, I'm almost certain, takes place in the reset universe[/note] after Super Mario Galaxy, so I move New Super Mario Bros. Wii before or after them (before makes sense since Peach seemingly starts composing her Galaxy letter during the NSMB Wii credits). But yeah, for the most part I just take the timeline as it comes.

>>8142642
I see it as "Donkey Kong 4" if anything since the ending looks like it could siegue into Super Mario Bros.

>>8139208
I remember him saying "Yahoo" in Sunshine. Did he also say "Wahoo"? I assume he must have at some point.

>>8142661
In the manual of Donkey Kong ‘94, it says “The familiar game of “Donkey Kong” is now a Game Boy title”, confirming that the original Donkey Kong, and Donkey Kong ‘94 are the same game.
Its like the SMB and SMB2 "parallel worlds" or SM64 and SM64DS being the same game timeline/story wise, just retold in a different way.
In DK for the GB it's literally the same game as DK, you go through the first four levels of the original game and then the story continues.

>>8143625
>“The familiar game of “Donkey Kong” is now a Game Boy title”
So? That sounds like marketing buzz. The fact that the very next sentence describes the arcade portion of the game as "the familiar scenes of the first few stages" imply that Mario's been there before. Besides, it's already been confirmed to serve as a prequel to Super Mario Bros., and Super Mario Odyssey acknowledges Pauline's old and new designs.

Mario is a plumber who saves princess on the weekends
Just like me!
I am a 30 year old cashier and I play mario and save the princess in my free time !
Mario is the best series ever!
I don't understand why /vr/ pretends anything does what Mario does.
Mario trilogy, SMW duo, and Mario rpg to cap it off
It's the perfect run !

>>8139113
he's making his own indie games now i think, one is pretty much psycho waluigi stripped of all the nintendo characters and whatnot, it's called psycutlery

Speaking of "Donkey Kong 94", pretty sure the "official" name of the game is supposed to be "GameBoy Donkey Kong", since thats whats on the title screen.

Is mario real
At what point does the donkey kong series diverge enough to not fall under the mario game umbrella

>>8144920
It is the Mario series that falls under the Donkey Kong game umbrella, but only in games with Donkey Kong's name in the title.

>>8144934
So then are these threads a stealth donkey kong general

>>8144947
Yes.

>>8144958
Chunky kong is my nigga

>>8144947
You can bet on it.

>>8138849
Mario if he real

>>8138849
mario if he real

>>8141449
>Yoshi's Strange Quest

Isn't that hack filled with weird fetish shit?

>>8138849
mario if he real

Doing a second run of Mario RPG after my first attempt was glitched out in Booster's Tower upon equipping the Chomp with Bowser. Just beat Yaridovich. Has been really pleasant so far, no deaths so far except at Belome 2. Johnny is so cool; I like post-enemies that are chill like him.

>>8138849
mario if he real

>>8138102
I love the Mario and Luigi series, but unfortunately the games don't have replay value.

>>8139604
Mario's Mystery Meat. Bit of a meme game, but it unironically pushes the SMW engine to its absolute limits.

>>8139604
My romhack I worked autistically on around 2010 or so but ended up getting corrupted as soon as I patched a rom to test it out but for some reason I had no goddamn backups FUCK

>>8147238
Wish they would bring back weird characters like this.

>>8138296
They're that long for gameplay purposes. It would be pretty difficult dealing with them if they were shorter.

>>8138849
mario if he real

>>8138113
thats-a nice niche you got there sanic, I think I'll take it!

>>8138113
This is a great mario design almost on par with the fantasy manga mario

>>8142015
Are you still working on this?

>>8142015
Would you count spin-offs as non-canon material or is there anything that can explain why they take place? What about the stage play aspects of Super Mario Bros. 3?

>>8153751
Not him, but many of the stage play-esque elements, such as shadows being casted to the backgrounds, are no longer present in the remakes, so maybe that comment by Miyamoto is semi retconned?

>>8153751
and also, it states in the manual of Super Mario World that SMW happens directly after SMB3, so it has to be canon.

>>8142656
>Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Story (first entry in the franchise) -> Yoshi's New Island (interquel) -> Yoshi's Island DS (sequel)
Yup, you pretty much hit the nail on the head. Instead of the reason being "first entry in the franchise" though, New Island is obviously a direct sequel, but also DS has flashbacks to the first Yoshi's Island in the intro so DS would indeed come after New Island.
It's also where Baby Peach and Baby Bowser is first introduced and why Baby Bowser doesn't seem to state his reasoning for kidnapping Baby Peach in Partners in Time.

Oh, and one more thing, Yoshi's Story seems to come some time after New Island since Baby Bowser is old enough to speak in full sentences in Story like he does in DS and Partners in Time.
So, it seems to go:
>SMW2: YI -> New Island -> DS -> Story -> Partners in Time (Past)

Also a useful bit of information, ‘Prince’ Bowser (as he calls himself now) confirms that he left Yoshi’s Island “on his own terms.”

Sorry for the wall of text but I think this info could be helpful when getting information for the timeline image

is mario trivia anon here? i’m playing super mario land 3: wario land and i’d love to hear some of his factoids about it.

>>8154870
I have an image of some Wario factoids here.

>>8155561
all of these facts are based

>>8155561
>He can bench press 200 kg
He can do even more than that.
Some of the bosses he's thrown around in Wario World are absolutely massive.

>>8155727
i wonder if this image explains the origins of toad: “people” who have ingested too much poison mushroom.

>>8138102
>mario general on /vr/

Is this an offshoot of the mario general on /vg/ or something

where did you fucks come from all of a sudden

>>8138270
Its Klonoa meme lol

>>8156254
No, I just got tired of people complaining in Mario threads here about how there's too many Mario threads on /vr/ and I wanted a place I could talk about my comfy memories with Mario.

>>8156702
Oh I see. I figured you were the /vg/ people (Yes, there are mario generals on /vg/ now after what seems like a decade of none materializing, but this one seems suspect as it was birthed in june in anticipation for Super Rush circlejerking, but the game was a dud and only zoomers remain that slavishly defend Super Rush and other weak Mario offerings... Which isnt my ideal mario community). Id say you may have a chance of finding better likeminded mario fans on /vr/ if you keep to it and avoid overdoing it as much. They have to bump their threads every hour because the sheer size of the catalog sends their teeny general down the Page 9 within moments. But seeing as most of Mario stuff pre-gen 6 is more or less good stuff, you wont have much trouble beyond forced SMB3 vs SMB3 debates. Id say /vr/ is a good spot to try for Mario discussion. Still, I dont see why anyone here would be complaining, a LOT of retro stuff is invariably linked to bingbingwahoo one way or another.

>>8138268
>Yoshi's Island is a comfy vibe
>>>/out/

>>8138268
We got croc 1 and 2, a series that began as a yoshi 3d game.

Tell me if i'm wrong but isn't this white stuff in Mario Maker 2 was originally made for SMB3 but never got used until now, as reveled by the giga leak?
>>8156765
i thought there was only the bowsette one

>>8156765
That, and it's possibly to actually talk about video games here.

>>8157854
Nah, that one was also a thing for a while, but this new Mario general was recent and is unrelated to bowsette posting. AFAIK there has never been a proper Mario general and there were only a few attempts made in 2014-2015 but they all failed, seems most people just didnt have any interest or motivation in them. This NEW one thats come about in June was made solely because a handful of zoomie children on /v/ started getting extremely drunk on hype and excitement over Mario Golf Super Rush, thinking that it would be a surefire hit that would instigate "/v/eekends" in a similar vein to MK8 /v/eekends (Because they probably missed out/are envious and restless). However it quickly became apparent that Camelot bungled the game with rng and fucked up the traditional mechanics, and a bunch of Mario Golf veterans started pointing this out and criticizing the game. They got ABSOLUTELY bootyblasted and started shouting down all critics until they were blue in the face and ultimately decided to hightail it to /vg/ in a vain attempt to shield their hype, but the end result is them having to bump their empty generals every few hours before it falls of from Page 10, because its failing like from before. Only difference now is that its zoomer Mario fans who are insanely bitter and spiteful, trying to force a dead general alive and pretend theyre open for all Mario discussions, but as soon as you criticize any game made past gen 6 they change their tune. Im pretty sure its only 5 or 6 kids in there at all times. Its pretty funny and sad. If you want you can go and observe them with morbid curiousity, or hell maybe bring up Super Rush's metacritic and watch them go apeshit. >>>351499851
I dont know how I feel about an intermitten general on /vr/, but surely it would never be as bad and miserable as the /vg/ one

>>8157860
Amen to that brother. Honestly, I do believe the userbase on /vr/ houses a higher caliber of Mario fan than those shitters over at /vg/.

>>8158001
this is almost sonic levels of autism

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