/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 4.0 https://rentry.org/6hwzi
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfunv4

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8112368
Please use spawnflag 16 for your level exit triggers.

/vr/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT
Info here >>8091348

VRSKINS 4.0
Taking submissions

=== NEWS ===
[9-09] Serious Sam classic games get the (unofficial) ray tracing treatment
https://github.com/sultim-t/Serious-Engine-RT/releases

[9-09] Doomuniverse opens, a new forum for doom related things
https://doomuniverse.com/

[9-07] Rainbow Six mod that combines all classic R6 games into one
https://www.moddb.com/mods/rainbow-six-black-ops-20/downloads/rainbow-six-black-ops-20-release

[9-05] Quakespasm 0.94 out, fully supporting DotM
http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/Quakespasm.html#s5

[9-05] Dread demo released
https://youtu.be/ZxhO1ZCOZ-M

[9-04] Alkaline Jam released
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62095

[9-03] Hedon 2 has been released as an update to the original for those who have it on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1072150/Hedon_Bloodrite/

[9-02] Dege is restoring the ATI TruForm tesselation renderer for DgVoodoo2
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=83037

[9-02] DBP39: Carnage Oasis is out
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2271/carnage-oasis

[9-02] vkquake 1.11.0 released
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.11.0

[9-01] Zero Master releases demo pack, beats every UVMax record for Plutonia
https://youtu.be/oYVlPv5s8Uc

[9-01] Crusadoom, a Crusader inspired mod for Doom
https://www.moddb.com/mods/crusadoom

[8-31] FTE now fully supports DotM
https://quakeone.com/forum/quake-talk/quake-central/283211-quake-enhanced-is-out-now?p=283384#post283384

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/vr/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT ANCHOR POST

>half life
Disgusting, ruined the golden age of fps games

>>8127046
Ok halotard

MOVE

>>8127028
a fitting thread title

>>8127028
>Opposing Force
Based

reminder that valve never confirmed if adrian shephard was canon or not

>>8127028
Organ Grinder is BACK!
https://www.twitch.tv/tastyspleentv

QCDE duel is over, DBT took it like a bitch, Action quake 2 and QW laterv

So in case the other dude is already asleep, IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. I'M SURE A FEW OF YOU GUYS CAN POST A THING OR TWO OF SOMETHING YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON BEFORE THIS THREAD IS OVER: MAPS, MODS, SPRITES, YOU KNOW THE GODDAMN DRILL BY NOW.

>>8127046
>Disgusting, ruined the golden age of fps games
Oh, no, it ruined the age of games such as Last Rites, Terminator Rampage, Killing Time, Alien Trilogy, Nightmare 3-D, Terminal Velocity and Depth Dwellers. What an absolute shame.

>>8127071
Doombringer looks fun as fuck.

>>8127072
made a trailer
webm dropped the last 5 seconds off, but owell
>>>/wsg/4114224

>everyone in the quake remaster multiplayer has 100+ ping
shame, i was looking forward to playing but i guess no one on the west coast na plays it

>>8127072
I think the study is starting to come together really nicely.

>>8127143
I tried a few days ago and had the same issue. Also west coast. I couldn't find anyone who wasnt skipping around like a jumping bean...
I can't play atm tho, I'm going to a petting zoo!

>Crap-Life as the OP image
Yep.
>>8127167
Have fun at the zoo, Anon

>>8127203
>ban evading

>>8127215
I've no ban to my name. Crap-Life is just a bad game and undeserving of being an OP image + name.

>>8127161
the skull-bookcase really pulls the room together.

>>8127161
Too many doomcutes and comfy stuff but I hope it is actually fun to play it

I am playing Zone 400 and using that as a learning experience for mapping. Each map contains less than 400 lines. It has an all-original soundtrack and perhaps the levels are merely a vessel for his MIDIs but the megawad is still good. I can't make anything fancy so I will use this as one of my references for maps that are acceptably boxy and fun.

>>8127268

>>8127072
Posted this before, slowly building up an office-in-hell map.

>>8127268
Zone 400 doesn't look particularly impressive, but the encounters are actually really smartly designed. Pcorf has really improved, I would no longer call him a composer first and designer second. He's fully competent at both now.

>>8125939
Yeah, near the end.

>>8126762
>>8126759
>>8126736
>>8126689
Hey anon, instead of loading your map in Boom Format, make it load in MBF21 format, you don't need to do anything else and you can just start applying the new functions and stuff.

>>8126226
>>dude just run backwards and nothing can hit you lmao
>serious sam
Thats just objectively inaccurate, because almost every enemy in SS is faster than you. You cant keep running backwards forever, eventually they'll catch up. I would actually say it has one of the best enemy rosters ever in FPS.

>>8126731
>block land monsters
Thats an option in MBF21? Damn, thats useful. For some reason, GZDoom (UDMF format) has "block flying monsters", but not this. When would you ever want to block flying monsters but not walking monsters? Ive only ever wanted the opposite.

>>8127318
and projectiles will hit you
and there's hitscanners
and the sheer quantity of enemies will push you to the wall eventually
i have problems with serious sam but the enemy roster is not one of them. it's nicely exhaustive and the designer knows how to make groups that cover each others' weaknesses

>>8127152
dame da ne
dame da ne
dame na no yo

>>8127072

I downloaded the Halloween resources from OP but the OTEX textures are still wrong. Is that not the latest version?

How exactly does sound propagation - i.e. ACTUAL transmission of sounds through the map - work in MBF21?
For example, I noticed how when I place imps in the void, I can still hear them grunt.
Or when I lower a floor a few hundred units and several doors away I can still hear it.
When I have a closet in the void connected to a room I can still hear them in the next room (again with a door).
So does that mean sound is still transmitted through the void? I don't really understand it.

>>8127581
Also, are GL light modes broken in DSDA-Doom or something? If I change it to anything but "GLBoom", it looks fullbright. But on "GLBoom", its almost pitch-black without any illumination around you. This is on brightness 160, which is reasonably dim in both software mode and in GZDoom's hardware mode.

>>8127616
where even is the brightness slider in DSDA doom? i can't find it for fuck all. i've been having the same problem

>>8127616
>>8127623
DSDA is based on prboom, isn't it? gamma control is one of the F keys.

>>8127623
Not talking about the brightness. You can adjust that with f11. What I mean is that, in the OpenGL options, you can choose different styles of lighting. And all of them seem to be broken.

>>8127623
f11 while playing.

>>8127625
>>8127627
oh okay yeah the gamma button right. also i noticed the brightness was absolutely broken in the newer versions of DSDA doom. Everything looks super bright. So i just kept using DSDA 19.7

I think Shaders is the lighting setting thats suppose to be "normal". I did notice with DSDA doom that i'd have to turn my monitors brightness down from a normal setting.
The "boom" setting in DSDA doom is just totally dark

Who would win, doomguy or steve from minecraft?

>>8127670
you're mom

>>8127670
Win at what? Deathmatch? Chess? Go? A debate on the merits of the philosophy of Nietzche?

>>8127709
>Nietzche
Whoever wins, you will already lost.

>>8127686
>ESL hands

>>8127724
>you will already lost
See: >>8127726

>>8127726
>>8127734
Sorry, wanted to write "you will lose" and then changed my mind. Doesn't change the fact that when trying to sound like a smartass you should have the "smart" down first, you know?

>>8127740
Kek seethe

>>8127743

>>8127035
Reposting from last thread because I don't know if anyone has noticed.
Found some bones on R667. They fit size-wise and I adjusted them to look more alike. Not sun-bleached, but also not fresh-bloody. Just something that could be sitting in a crypt or something.

Post those sprites without that background.

>>8127783
meant to >>8127768

>>8127783
Cyan is transparent.

>>8127768
>>8127783
This one is from "skeleton decor.wad"

>>8127768
>>8127783
This one is from a "Wolfenstein Gore" wad.

>>8127837
>>8127846
Ty, i'll save them.

"Spram's Metroid"
it plays like a metroidvania. i enjoyed it

>>8127869
looking good anon

>>8127902
wad?

>>8127913
C'mon now anon, scroll up, it's the first Metroid related post.
This seems kinda like shit though, the weapons feel awful.

>>8127581
>>8127035
Come on man, how are we supposed to start our maps if half the textures are broken, a week after the issue was reported?

>>8127923
Oh, ok

>>8127913
Spram's Metroid. spoiler webm (if you care)

>>8127923
yeah the combat suffers from the Metroid theme. enjoyed the nostalgia trip regardless

>>8127931
It can be done right. Term did it years ago, and I'd like to think I did halfway decent a few years back.
I gotta give this guy credit for not just stealing Dreadnaught's weapons, mechanics, and sprites though

>>8127072
Made an area today

I've been stumbling my way through Hideous Destructor,

I kind of hate having to guess what a good key binding set would be, get some muscle memory in, then later realize that it wants you to hold this key and that key at the same time and have to rejig it to make that more comfortable.

Are there no "generally recommended" key bindings for HD?

>>8128093
Maybe you should stick to console games, my zoomer friend.

>>8128093
I'm pretty biased since I have four additional buttons on my mouse. Beyond that it's just recommending basic stuff like making use of the function keys and keeping a reference card nearby, your phone can help there.

>>8128093
Not really, you'll need to fuck around with stuff to get a feel for what's comfortable for you, but I'd say absolutely vital keys are:

fire
altfire
jump
crouch
reload
alt reload
zoom
firemode
sprint
unload
switch item left
switch item right
drop weapon
use item
use
Strip armor (very useful to quickly remove backpacks and put armor back on too)

From there you'll find yourself making other binds that're convenient for your playstyle. Like I have extra binds for

equip medikit
use backpack
use bandaging
use DERP
place DERP on wall
call DERP back
detonate doorbuster

Best thing you can do is just fuck around and find what's comfy for you, anon. Stay persistent and practice.

I just played Hedon.
It still sucks.

>>8128114
Is there a way to make 'cl_run' not just a toggle? I.e. holding space makes it "false", letting go makes it "true"?

>>8128128
And this is strictly for HD, since it toggles between a jog and a walk while holding the "run" button activates the sprint.

>>8128128
Oh, that's just the toggle run key, that's a default GZDoom bind

>>8128075
Ribbiks-ish

Is there a command-line option for DSDA-Doom to make it show fps?

>>8128149
Type idrate in game. Most vanillish sourceports have that option.

>>8127926
you can literally start mapping without using them for a while anyway, that's not an excuse

>>8128109
>>8128114
Fair enough, I'll fuck around with mouse buttons and function keys.
I do have a lot of mouse buttons, I just usually keep OS shit like swapping between tabs and windows on them.
Maybe I'll try putting every gun action on the mouse

>>8128101
(You)

>>8128128
alias +holdtorun "cl_run 1"
alias -holdtorun "cl_run 0"
bind space +holdtorun

>>8128163
thanks

>>8128217
>Caleb sucks Shelly

>>8128217
>lmao vanilla lack space

>>8128179
No, because they have the wrong names and arent formatted correctly, so if I started mapping then Id have to go back and change textures when they were fixed.

>>8128217
>bullshit slaughter
words of wisdom

>>8128217
>lol unlike vg
>40oz bad

Soooo.... why did that crusher not kill me?

>>8127030

Not sure if this has been posted before but here's a shit load of Retro FPS magazine scans - https://imgur.com/gallery/R755A

>>8128217
>hope meme shot start true fury
school shooting incoming

>>8128217
>futa fly
god no

>>8128274
>the most important PC game ever
>single player mode feels like a beta version

>>8128193
Lifesaver! Console commando!
>>8128134
HD makes things weird with it's three movement states while standing.

I just got to Spirit World in Doom 2.

>>8128274

Full archive of Computer Gaming World - 1981 - 2006

http://www.cgwmuseum.org/galleries/index.php?year=0&pub=0&id=500

>>8128350
Some excellent cover art over the years

>>8127072
running my mod through TNT to see if the gameplay loop is good. no webm because guns need reworked.

>>8128264
>120% armor

>>8128318
Considering we are still playing Quake, the ad wasn't that wrong.

>>8128438
nice

Does anyone know that wad that turns the demons to JRPG encounters? Someone on the shitwad stream was talking about it last night

>>8128695
Second this information.

How come there are no women enemies in doom?

>>8128818
Mastermind.

>>8128818

>>8128818
mother demon in doom 64

>>8128823
cacos are trans

Any point to using Quakespasm or Quakespasm-spiked over vkQuake these days?

>>8128834
trans isnt a gender though and i dont see penis

I had this feeling for a long time that cacos were the cuter demons and I dont know why

>>8128335
it's one of the better maps imo

>>8128831
First time I got to her I played doom 64 I think on watch me die and beat it in the second try. That demon gun with the three artifacts is just op lmao

>>8128128
Instead of a toggle I'm experimenting with

bind shift "+speed; cl_run true"
bind z "cl_run false""

So the behavior doesn't depend on what state it's already in, it's always the faster jog after I let go of sprint, and I can just tap sprint by itself to set always run on.

>>8128836
some mods are designed for qss
arcane dimensions being the big (and best) one

>>8128252
Oh, I guess I may have to go back to fix various textures on my map once that is addressed, that is great.

>>8128818
I always liked to believe the Pain Elemental was a pregnant lady that gives birth to lost souls.

>>8128945
He's more like a portal to dead souls iirc

Wew they put a lot of thought into even friendly fire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2pIaB07UYo
"If you friendly fire but you're not directly targeting them they don't turn hostile" "Hey watch it with that thing"

How do I fiddle with the settings so that I can turn this into an assassin simulator?

I've been playing Tempus Irae for Marathon. It's actually one of the best level packs for this game. Best part is that they actually give you shotgun shells. These games seem to work best when they involve a lot of close quarters combat.

>>8128946
Thats a less fun thing to believe.

>>8128438
Can you please un-blur the revolver?

>>8128274
Honestly thanks a bunch for posting this

>>8129002
the revolver is an awful model render, so I absolutely will once I get to handling the graphics side.

is kinsle some doom modder or something? seeing him in quake mapping server and that guy gives off strong "doomworld tranny" vibes.

Dario:
>I got bored with being able to beat Plutonia all the time, so I borrowed Milo's idea (he made the last secret level in Plutonia, the one with a billion monsters in it). So I made my own variant of E1M1 and threw in even more monsters. I just loved grabbing an invulnerability powerup and wading through hoardes of monsters with the BFG, never knowing if I'd make it to the other side before the powerup ran out!. I also liked the way that you had to manage ammo and powerup resources carefully and there were lots of ways around the level. Co-op was a blast too. I could beat it every time, but I always had fun beating it. I got a few demos of other people beating it too, so it wasn't impossible!

Reminder that the maker of Plutonia is a slaughter map enjoyer

>>8129120
Lot of people credit Go2It as the one to popularize the slaughter map.

>>8127030
Temporal Tantrum (Test Version 3) is now out!

Featuring 19 MBF21-compatible maps by Brxyz, EnragedEggplant, LunchLunch and Washing Machine Enthusiasts (all from 2048 units of /vr/) across six episodes, with five custom enemies to fight.

See it in action here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXxCe8zvJXY

Download it here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xA3xJpDECRW40sq_3YZfqoky9MhDZ87U/view?usp=sharing

This is still a test release. Please let us know if you find any bugs or have any suggestions.

>>8128940
does vk not work well with it? and any reason to use vanilla qs over qss?

wanted to have the original experience for quake, did i do a good job anons?

>>8129150
The Casalis pioneered that kind of gameplay, they had dabbled in some maps like that before Plutonia, experimenting if you will, and Go2It I think codified slaughter as a genre, showing everyone how it's done.

>>8129231
Go 2 It was essentially Milo remaking Dario's Punisher.

>>8129262
If you look at that quote it's exactly the opposite of that, Dario got inspired by Go 2 It. He was even asked about Punisher wad there
>What was the deal with your Punisher WAD? Why did you decide to make such a big and hard level? Could you actually beat it?
>I got bored with being able to beat Plutonia all the time, so I borrowed Milo's idea (he made the last secret level in Plutonia, the one with a billion monsters in it). So I made my own variant of E1M1 and threw in even more monsters. I just loved grabbing an invulnerability powerup and wading through hoardes of monsters with the BFG, never knowing if I'd make it to the other side before the powerup ran out!. I also liked the way that you had to manage ammo and powerup resources carefully and there were lots of ways around the level. Co-op was a blast too. I could beat it every time, but I always had fun beating it. I got a few demos of other people beating it too, so it wasn't impossible!
The interview: https://5years.doomworld.com/interviews/dariocasali/

>>8129270
Oh wow, I never knew this. I always thought Punisher was first because it came out in 1995.

>>8129306
I guess since Plutonia was an official id release it took some time after it was done but for Punisher, Dario just uploaded it

THE CURRENT SITUATION IS LOOKING PRETTY GRIM

>>8128540
>we
Do you have a mouse in your pocket?
Haven't touched Quake in 20 years and not planning to change that.

>>8127035
So, what happened to project lead? Are you dead? Sick? RL caught up? Give us a sign of life!
I really don't want to continue working on my map if I have to replace every single texture when the patches are fixed.

>>8128818
People getting their kick out of gore, torture and abuse stuff should be on some government watch list.

>>8129193
No.
Go back to '96.

Why is episode 3 of Scythe so much harder, it feels like a different wad.

>>8129448
Because Erik suddenly felt like doing harder maps

>>8129441
I would if I could, bitch.

>>8129448
To episode 3's credit, it does still continue the small maps theme. Only map30 went for something a little bigger (and even then, its still not huge).

>>8129441
>>8129416

>>8128818
FreeDoom had snake girls as imp replacement back in the day, snake tits and all.

>>8129448
by episode 3 I thought you meant scythe x at first

>>8129487
Unfunny af. 90s Shelly still better. Boring flat brunettes can fuck off.

>>8129501
Brunettes are nice, I agree that generic designs are not.

>>8129501
Retard

>>8129454
But the jump in difficulty is so sudden.
>>8129478
Still small but fucking vicious, like I'm on Anger now and it's brutal.

>>8129507
>>8129509
>t. ugly ass mofos that couldn't get a blonde instead settling for the stale ass brunette

>>8129507
It's not like Shelly has any non-generic designs, just two different decades' ideas of generic.

>>8129517
Indeed, should have gone for "badass sexy cop" though instead of "female NPC mall security"

>>8128978
um still waiting for response

>>8129523
Stealing is wrong, anon. So is murder.

>>8129416
Mapping scene is second largest after Doom.

>>8129531
doubt it

>>8129529
i dont like reloading quicksaves every 5 seconds and dont lecture me dammit >:/

plus i want satisfaction after disposing of people in my way. I dont want to shoot someone in the head with an arrow only for them then to come after me trying to kill me (yes this has happened before

>>8129551
The proper way to play Thief is ghosting. Git gud.

Any anons that have played this or have more information about it? How is it like?

>>8129553
no the proper way is how I want

Im not going to let gay fag developers tell
me how to play my games

>>8129557
>your games

>>8129554
I wasn't really impressed. It looks pretty (and makes GZDoom chug like a hillbilly's gas generator), but the enemy roster barely deviates from Doom's at all. The not-cyberdemon can also kill itself with its own projects.

>>8129554
Looks and plays like Doom with some GZDoom sprinkles while being one of the worst running games I’ve played in years.

>>8129554
>seven skill levels
The fuck were they smoking?

>>8129554
>How is it like?

10 fps not fucking matter what I do.

>>8129563
imagine being cucked into playing the game how the developers wanted you to play

>>8129538
What retro fps has second largest mapping scene, if not Quake?

>>8129592
Douk

>>8129592
probably duke

>>8129592
most likely duke

>>8129595
Duke's mapping scene has been mostly dead for 15 years. Has there been anything else besides Duke Forever Mod, Alien Armageddon and World Tour?

>The Manhack Arcade[3] is a Combine establishment in City 17 that was cut from Half-Life 2. Located at the end of a business and commercial district between the City 17 Trainstation and Kleiner's Lab, it was to be visited during the first chapters of the game.[1][4] There, Citizens were to be seen playing a video game centered around piloting Manhacks and tracking fleeing human targets for points, unaware of the fact that the Manhacks they were controlling were actually killing fugitive Citizens in real life.[3]
Such a retarded idea it's weird they considered this in the first place

i think duke nukem is fucking lame

>>8129676
Blow it out your ass

>>8129676
I've been playing through Duke3D for the first time and I'm having a fucking blast. Because you didn't ask, here's my current ranking for map enjoyment.
Dark Side
Death Row
Red Light District
Raw Meat
Hollywood Holocaust
Lunar Reactor
Spin Cycle
Space Port
The Abyss
Bank Roll
Overlord
Tiberius Station
Launch Facility
Incubator
Toxic Dump
Lunatic Fringe
Occupied Territory
Warp Factor
Fusion Station

>>8129676
Blow it out your ass

>>8129684
I like Raw Meat a lot too, people shit on it but it's one of the better maps of E3 imo. I'm not seeing any from E4 or E5 so I guess you haven't finished it yet

>>8129697
Nope, still chugging through. Crazy that people don't like Raw Meat, robot geisha booba ftw; and those poor babes shackled underwater made quite an impression. Alien bastards.

>>8129684
i didnt fucking ask and you made me yawn
*yawn*
>>8129676
>>8129689
the good thing about doom is that the same cheesy one liners arent fucking repeated constantly thus ruining my experience

>>8129706
Eat shit and die

>>8129706
Rip and tear and you are big so you must have big guts gets repeated more than Duke quotes because of the zoomer Doom games lmao

>>8129705
Oh and the sushi conveyor with the human foot on it was hilarious.

>>8129710
>Rip and tear and you are big so you must have big guts gets repeated more than Duke quotes
thats because that quote is cool while duke quotes are just cringe one liners that are better off being turned off

>>8129676
Blow it out your ass.

>8129727
>thats because that quote is cool

>>8129432
Go have a water sandwich you tastelet

>>8129730
Lol too much of a pussy to directly give someone a (You)?

>>8129727
It's literally a delirious babbling of the man high on combat drugs.

>>8129487
Someone in the last thread said Ion Fury posts are not deleted. Then where, pray tell, is this post?

>>8129748
that was more politisperging than actual game discussion

>>8129748
This getting retarded, if we can't talk about new retro fps with retro engines. Where to draw to line? Why is REKKR Sunken Land accepted and Ion Fury not. Both new retro fps on 90s engines and sold on Steam. I mean of course REKKR should be accepted, but why ban talk of other identical retro fps games solely by taste. There should be clear rules.

>>8129754
Like it or not, but politsperging is an integral part of actual game discussion.

>>8129756
Ion Fury discussion isn't banned you retarded nigger, try starting a discussion actually about the game

>>8129760
I didn't read the discussion, so I didn't know it was just shitflinging. But good thing, if it is allowed.

>>8129760
This. I'm not a big fan of Shelly either, though the game itself is quite good, but the shitposting is annoying and lowers the quality of the general.

>>8128695
>>8128814
Are you referring to colorful hell?
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47980

>>8129760
>try starting a discussion actually about the game
Okay, I'll start. Game is okay, enemy roster is honestly meh, but don't you guys think that main character is bland and obnoxious?

>>8129764
No, you retard, it starts a turn-based combat each time you encounter a monster or something. I vaguely remember seeing this as well, but I don't remember the name.

>>8128350
Anon, time to play your daily dose of 94 shitwads

>>8129765
Main character is fine for me, and better than the original Pamela Anderson bimbo version. That would have been shit. Also I think it's cool, that they made a 90s style spin-off build game for Duke character, even though we can't get new Duke game.

>>8129765
>Game is okay
I'd describe it as 'good but not great'
>enemy roster is meh
Some of them are cool, sadly I find the basic cultist-type enemies really boring though; they're not even very fun to kill as they just sort of fall over. A good fodder-type enemy should be more fun to blow apart.
>MC bland and obnoxious
For sure bland

Can someone tell me which mod this shit uses for VR?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDUYLDtC5Qw

>>8129770
I liked headshotting the cultists.

>>8129767
Did you saw a gameplay vid or just a screenshot? If it was a screenshot it was probably an edit someone made. I know there is a Pokemon mod that allows you to catch enemies, level them etc but turning Doom to turn based sounds like it would make it extremely boring

>>8129771
gmod vr with half life source

>>8129775
thanks

>>8129770
>Some of them are cool
Centipedes looked cool but overall I don't remember any interesting monsters on the roster gameplay-wise, and there certainly was a lack of monsters that dominated encounters like archviles or shadow ninjas.

>>8129746
yeah and thats cool unlike cheesie oneliners

>>8129771
why is this unfunny shit so forced around everywhere?

>>8129786
IDK I just saw that its VR implementation is better than what Xash3D did

>>8129784
That's true, there's no real stand-out along those lines, at least not that I remember.

>>8129765
I hate Ion fury

I do not want to play as a girl. Girls are weak and belong in dress up games

How come I cannot kill women in my brutal doom v21?
additional question: are there girl enemies in project brutality?

I cant be the only one who wants to pick shelly up, throw her to ground and deliver a stomp with enough crushing force to send skull fragments and brain matter scattered all over the floor am I?

>>8129791
have sex

>>8129793
no

>>8129763
Speaking of Ion Fury I just finished it yesterday. Very anti climatic, and really badart. I agree with people saying she deserves better.

>>8129816
I'm hoping they spice her up a little in the expansion, although frankly I'm not holding my breath

>>8129821
Its not a bad boss fight. Its just a really boring evil guy and it just ends. Its kinda weird, just shitty art of an explosion and it just ends.
At least the levels are a nice journey.

Something went wrong. There is effort put into the game, but somebody forgot about putting some soul into it.

Contrast it to Amid Evil, Dusk or Elderborne, all indie, and very faint story but it is there and you have a more satisfying ending. And better story bits integrated into gameplay while playing.


In fact instead of the old guy I was expecting some twist like the dude was an AI, or some AI of his rebelled and became the true antagonist. Nothing happens. I guess the only sign something is happening is that everybody is dead in the city and HQ.

Man I I would kill for an action fps with some rpg elements like deus ex bu looking like Ion Fury. Can you imagine.

>>8129816
Don't tell me there isn't a final boss?

>>8129841
No, you fight a wave of enemies, and have to throw some bowling bombs inside a tube that eventually kills heskel. Its a cool arena however although the secret level baseball stadium fight with the mechs is better. And its mid game. And it ends every abruptly. Maybe there is a secret ending if you get 100%?

What are some good wads to coop with a friend? Also Brutal Doom or Project Brutality (or something else)?

If I told you this was a roman era ruin, would you believe me?

>>8129849
>What are some good wads to coop with a friend?
Bloom is pretty great
>Brutal Doom or Project Brutality
Neither, what the hell is wrong with you? Use Samsara or something.

>>8129849
>brutal doom/project brutality
>coop
Probably not since Zandronum's decorate hasn't been updated for years.

>>8129853
Yes kinda. Also dark ages color vibe to it. Depends on region the color vibe to it.
Pic related is a roman ruin in my country.

>>8129853
it does look so, apart from the red stuff

>>8129420
I'm still here, just attentive for more claimings and sprites suggestions since i'm still working on the project's stuff and others. as I said before you have to wait for the otex textures because I caught up with irl shit too.

>>8129853
forgot to say >>8129867
If you can find a better stone tiling texture it would look more roman, those stones look haphazardly medieval.

As you can see from my pic most romans ruins stone work are almost perfect, all the stone masonry is very organized.

>>8129853
Kinda looks the part. I'd maybe tone down the stark red into a more pale color.

>>8129865
Don't worry, Mark targets his spaghetti code towards Zandybam.

>>8129878
>>8129876
>>8129868
>>8129867
I tried going for a wall look like the left, but couldn't find a proper texture, so I chose something akin to the right one.
The red stuff is supposed to be roof tiles. I would have also preferred a less glowing red, but couldn't find anything for that.

>>8129896
I think it conveys pretty well.

arrg im duke the kem

>>8129874
Ah, good to know. Is there anything one can do to support you? I am the bone sprite dude >>8127768 - if you want to accept them I could already write something for the dehacked patch or so so you only need to throw everything into the wad.

>>8127035
I saw these spooky statues on Realm 667, anyone other than me wanna put these into their level? They apparently have ambient sound included but we can skip that and just have them for looks only.

>>8129841
Not like other FPS games have good final bosses lel. The only one I like is Blood and that's because if you increase the enemy limit to the max you can fight two bosses, actually makes it interesting. And that's a Buildgdx exclusive feature not even a main game thing

>>8129961
>GDX slider chad
My guy. It’s great how balanced Extra Crispy spawns are without the Extra Crispy healthpools.

>>8129954
I'd find a use for them.

>>8129980
Yeah. Looking at the frames, they have lit up variants, which with brightmaps/fake brightmaps would look pretty sick.

Does getting shot affect reaction time? I shot an idle chaingunner and he spun around and started shooting without walking first.

>>8130017
You must have made him flinch first.

thoughts on this?
https://youtu.be/wtn88-aiZjc

>>8130017
I think that sometimes monsters will leap towards retaliating immediately after taking a hit, yeah.

>>8129840
>Elderborn
Is this a good game? I've never heard about it until now, looks kinda neat.

>>8129592
Half Life

>>8130017
if a monster enters their pain state then they'll attack faster

>>8130139
underwhelming and short. Just 3 areas.
the combat is fine I guess
it ends at a point where you suppose you are halfway through, but nope - here are godly powers go slay some guys without effort to "feel the power" then thats it

What are some Quake 2 enemies that you would bring to Q1 for gameplay alone?

>Download Hideous Destructor
>Go to binds
wtf how can you schizos go with this

>>8130393
You really don't need all of them. The mod does have a learning curve though.

>>8130341
Some of the smaller flying things for sure, Quake is lacking those. Some of the guards for more variety could help I've played a few mods that have been good about this so it's hard to say.
I also don't know how much I enjoy fighting the Q2 enemies vs. how much I like their sounds and appearances. Enemies like the berserker look and sound great but they also function like dumber knights, they're not as fun to fight.

>>8130393
>Schizo
I don't think this word means what you think it means anon, even if you did somehow need all the keybinds, that would still fail to make someone a schizo

>>8128093
I could post my personal keybinds for you that I'd recommend, if you want. The idea being to have a functional start and then change it to your preferences.

I've been putting together a modpack for friends anyway and include that in a README.

>>8130341
Gladiator. Just a fun enemy overall. Could fit into Q1 roster as a slightly weaker Shambler, since you can sidestep rail shots.
Medic. Would work even better in case of Q1 because you can't gib enemies post-mortem.

>>8129853
not really, the columns look the part but the brick is too generic to be discernible

need more detail, prolly statues

>>8130518
>but the brick is too generic to be discernible
Didn't they build generic stone and mortar houses? Also I don't think everyone had statues at their place.

>>8130025
wow the spider demons actually do sound like women

plus when they are just a brain (still alive) you can play soccer :>

sweet!

>>8130025
pretty cool, glory kills and rainbow ammo drops are lame though

>>8130562
>t. slow paced gamer

>>8130518
What do you mean "too generic"? What's non-generic brick?
As mentioned in >>8129896 or also pic related, that's the kind of look I was going for.
If we had any white walls, I would have tried making one those, but I have to work with what I have. Though I am still bothered by the lack of pastels I could use for it.

>>8129939
>if you want to accept them I could already write something for the dehacked patch or so so you only need to throw everything into the wad.
Nice, that would be helpful. I really appreciate your help.

>>8130580
Cool. I just need a few more infos.
>What program are you using? WhackEd4?
>What format is it? Extended Dehacked, right?
>What frames should I use? Just keep going from 1301 on?
>Can the values just be added to the dehacked file in the wad or do they have to be added through Whacked?
>Any naming conventions? Something like HD1A0 (Halloween Decoration 1)?
>Should I just send them to you via email? Or post the sprites and text lumps here?

>>8130139
I liked it very much an on, it has some passion in it, cool style and fuck I miss dark messiah type combat.

Its lenghty enough.

>>8130025
brutal doom is already a nightmare of poorly thought out excess and pb is like 10 times worse
the weapons and cool and it looks pretty nice. good in a turn your brain off way
i get an aneurysm when i see someone say THIS IS THE BEST WAY TO PLAY DOOM BRO. the levels aren't designed for you to have 40 screen clear nukes, let alone a jump and climb.

>>8130497
>The idea being to have a functional start and then change it to your preferences.
Yeah that's the sort of thing I'm looking for, I'd appreciate it

>>8130025
Very, very bloated mod. Blurred sprites everywhere look awful. The amount of effort put forth by the team is impressive, but I don't find it fun to play at all.

>>8130025
>Project Brutality
>HD textures
>Eternal rainbow drops
Thanks, I hate this

>>8130859
Here you go then, these are mine

---

Main Menu -> Options -> Customize controls -> Action

Fire: Mouse1
Secondary Fire: Mouse2
Weapon Reload: R
Weapon Zoom: Mouse3 (middle mouse button)
Use/Open: F
Move: W/A/S/D
Jump: Space
Crouch Toggle: C
Run: Shift

Main Menu -> Options -> Customize controls -> Weapons

UNBIND Next weapon and Previous weapon. We will need the mouse wheel for something else.
Weapon 9: X (this is so we can quickly access medical treatment)
Keep everything else the same.

Main Menu -> Options -> Customize controls -> Inventory

Activate item: Ctrl
Next item: Mouse Wheel Up
Previous item: Mouse Wheel Down
Drop item: B
Drop weapon: V

Main Menu -> HD OPTIONS -> Configure HD Controls

Secondary Reload: T
Weapon Fire Mode: Mouse4 (lower thumb button on my mouse)
Mag Manager: J
Weapon Unload: Mouse5 (upper thumb button on my mouse)
Taunt: M
Strip/Equip Armour: Z
Drop one ammo: I
Drop useless ammo: O
Cycle same-weapon stack: H
Lean Left: Q
Lean Right: E
Range Finder: K
Play Dead: N
Use Grenades: G

---------

Extra stuff that is not keybinds
My preferences

Main Menu -> HD OPTIONS

Server Preset: Normal
Reduce archvile spam: No
Passive sight view: Sights only
Sights visible when moving: No

- Toggle Zoom w/Rangefinder
I personally like having my zoom being a toggle, instead of holding it.

Name=zoomrf_on
Command=+zoom;wait 10;hd_findrange;alias zoomrf_tog zoomrf_off
Name=zoomrf_off
Command=-zoom;alias zoomrf_tog zoomrf_on
Name=zoomrf_tog
Command=zoomrf_on

Now, bind your zoom key to zoomrf_tog . Now thanks to this alias you have a toggle zoom key that also doubles as a rangefinder. Pairs very well with Ugly as Sin's "Focus Zoom" feature if you decide to use that submod.

- Custom messages for changing movement speed

Name=run_on
Command=cl_run 1;echo "Moving quickly.";alias run_tog run_off
Name=run_off
Command=cl_run 0;echo "Moving carefully.";alias run_tog run_on
Name=run_tog
Command=run_off

And then bound my walk/run toggle key to run_tog .

>>8130897
There's also a couple that I forgot to add here that are more specific, related to bringing up the backpack quick, placing DERPs on doors and using them, etc - because I felt like those were outside the scope of things for now, but I can also post those if you want

I did it!
I defeated the Icon of Sin

Overall, I didn't like it as much as the first one.
A good chunk of the levels, especially around he middle of the game, were a real bland slog to me.
That's not to say it's bad.
The Super Shotgun is fun.
I love the new enemy types. The Revenant and Archvile especially. Those are my favorites.
And I will say, the last handful of levels were great and I had a lot of fun with those.

I wonder what FPS I should play next. I could go with Final Doom, but I don't want to burn myself out on too much Doom.
What do you recommend anons? What FPS should I play next?

>>8130918
>placing DERPs on doors and using them
Quick keys for that are nice, but you can technically still use this function without them.

>>8130936
Play one of the Build engine games. Douk 3D is a good place to start there, then you can graduate to Shadow Warrior and then Blood.

>>8130937
Of course, which is why I figured including them in an already hefty list was probably a bit much for a beginner. You can always just use the console command for it. If they feel like it, they can always add those in later

>>8128945
>>8128946
>>8128991

I always thought he was three lost souls in a caco or something else like three kids in a trench coat. :p

>>8130936
heretic, after the build ones before returning for final doom

Why would one want to refine toxins?

What do you guys think of Moonblood as a beginner-friendly WAD, to bridge the skill gap between Doom 2 and Plutonia?

>>8130981
I dunno, why would I ever want to refine a toxic substance like e.g. crude oil?

>>8130943
What is the best way to play Duke? I know there is some Steam rerelease, but also source ports?

>>8131005
EDuke32, Raze, or RedNukem, each are good.

>>8130572
Simpler, more obvious brick

you are aiming for a level of ruins-realism only an archeologist would distinguish

You need to abstract it and make it more "roman" at single glance
the aztec levels in Back To Saturn X 2 are good examples of that

>>8131040
Honestly depends if he is going for a temple or house. The roman masonry for temples was ultra fine almost modern.

>>8131049
your average doom wad player won't recognize this at a glance.

now, if you actually WANT a realist mod, you shouldn't be caring what others think.

>>8131058
Yeah I know what you meant.

I would also just make an idealized roman temple ruin.

But let the anon make what he wants.

My 100% run so far

>>8131040
>>8131049
For the record, this will just be a simple rural farm-ish house ruin. nothing fancy. I would even omit the pillars, but without them it might be too obscure.

I just beat Quake 2 and the expansions. Fuck turrets. That is all.

>>8131075
Use the columns on the interior garden courtyard, and floor mosaics. pic related is a farmhouse inner garden.

I always loved how roman houses, where always gardens with a house instead of a house with a garden.

>>8131085
Sorry, this one's a "single block" house. No atrium, due to room constraints.

>>8130598
I'm the guy who made the custom monsters which is the bulk of the existing dehacked. I'm using DecoHack. The format is MBF21, editing it in WhackEd4 is impossible right now because it doesn't have support yet. I think it would be easier for project lead if I added them to my monsters directly and gave him the resulting deh file and wad. Just post a wad with the sprites you want, maybe a text description of what the frames should be for each. Naming should start with SPXX, XX should be whatever the monsters haven't used yet, check the vr_spooktember wad.
I'm also planning an update for the monsters, I'll make a separate post for that when I'm ready.

>>8131095
Oh, alright, I thought it was all one dude. But that also explains why that stuff didn't appear in Whacked when I loaded the vr-spooktober.wad.
Anyhow, here's the wad, readme inside.

https://files.catbox.moe/rqhf65.wad

THAT TIME AGAIN, FAGLORDS AND GENTLENIGGS!!!!!!

>SUNDAY.
NIGHT.
>SHITSHOW!!!

This time we're playan chillax wad, with lotsa cool stuff!

GET IN HERE!!! (ZANDRONUM):
104.128.49.2:10849
104.128.49.2:10849
104.128.49.2:10849

Hope to see you there! :D

>>8131017
Is this where I download Eduke? https://dukeworld.com/eduke32/synthesis/latest/

SHIT

>>8131135
what did you do

WHAT DID YOU DO?

>>8130598
Oh sorry for the late response, glad Dehacked anon/punch replied you back, he can help us a lot with this stuff since I don't know shit how to use DehExtra.

>>8131121
Also, Punch can you do me a favor... can you add/animate those sprites as well (pic related)? and add some of those sprites that anon asked >>8129954

If you wanna put more spooky decorations by your own just go ahead and send me the wad later. i think this would be just enough for the halloween decorations/dehacked stuff.

Is there a way to make movement and mouse in PrBoom+/DSDA feel like Crispy? It's just so... sluggish and unpleasant, whereas in Crispy it's, well, *crisp*.

>>8131192
turn off vsync

>>8131207
But I also have vsync enabled in Crispy.

>>8131215
Why would you do that
Why would you ever use vsync

>>8131215
Not all vsync implementations are equal. It's a night and day difference for me in PrBoom+.

>>8127028
Why does /vr/ defend and like Half Life now?

>>8131236
welcome back Alf!

>>8130025
Interesting. I'd play it without the nu-doom ammo drops and with faster monsters on realism setting. That setting really makes project brutality super fun. Actually have to hug walls and stay outside the lines of fire.

>>8130936
I second playing duke 3d if you have it

>>8131246
What difficulty do you recommend for a first timer?

>>8131128
SERVER REKT

>>8131262
I'd say medium. Aka let's rock. Is a good place to start for duke 3d.

>>8131262
Either of the middle two should be fine. Unlike Doom, the top difficulty does have rules to its respawning so it's feasible to beat it, but still not a good idea to dive into it before you know what you're doing.

>>8131263
Wait nevermind, somehow we survived one of the laggiest maps and it's still going

who is the luulubuu of the doom fanbase?

>>8131325
u

I like that the default secret message sound in PrBoom/DSDA is the multiplayer item respawn sound instead of that awful sounding gong (or whatever its supposed to be) in zdoom based ports.

>>8131375
Eternity engine uses the same sound. It's nice.
What was the original doom secret sound anyways ? It's been so long

>>8131387
>What was the original doom secret sound anyways?
There wasn't any.
It's been long indeed.

>>8131387
Vanilla engine lacked a message/sound for secrets.

>>8131391
Ah there wasn't even a sound lol.

>>8131393
This. Finding a secret was a secret if it was something you hadn't known but had something beneficial to it. Even if it was as simple as looking behind the couch at the corner.

>>8131391
Which is why some old wads have secrets that are very obviously broken (like a row of stairs all tagged as secret) in modern ports but you wouldnt notice while playing in DOS.

>>8131230
>Roasting your GPU to play a 28 year old video game

>>8131452
Dunno about AMD, but Nvidia drivers allow you to set a framerate limit.

Just made a tier list for Doom source ports. Had to make a fucking twatter account to post it.
>https://tiermaker.com/create/doom-source-ports-1244241

Man Hideous Destructor is really fun
I'm a retard so I drop these automatic weapons and pic another one once the clip is empty because I have no idea how to reload them

>>8131468
You're making the right call, reloading ZM66 rifles with partially used magazines will make the rifle through a fit and jam on you. Either only reload with fresh mags or just discard them when they're empty.

>>8131452
...you don't need vsync to limit your framerate anon, you're just showing your ignorance here

>>8131459
yes, AMD lets you do that. you don't need any specific software for doing it either. More often than not you can limit the framerate from within the game itself too.

>>8131468
I'm glad you're having fun but
>clip
>on automatic weapons
Anon you're hurting me, they're magainzes
The only clips in the mod are for the Boss sniper rifle and the Box Cannon (Mauser) from Peppergrinder

>>8131468
ZM66s demand fresh mags with the orange verification strip on them, but you can force dirty mags in by tapping reload again when the legal warning pops up if you absolutely need to. New York reloads are fine though, since the rifles themselves are everywhere.

>>8131468
You need fresh mags. You can distinguish them by the red seal on the top. You can force in a used mag by pressing Reload again during the reload sequence, but you shouldn't bother unless you're desperate because it jacks up the jam chance and sealed mags are plentiful. You're doing it the right way by just swapping dropped rifles instead of wasting time repacking the mags.

>he didn't play the original dos version on orginal hardware

The healer stalks is such an endearing track to me, it's just so casual and smooth sounding. I always picture some goofy shit going down in maps when I hear it.

https://youtu.be/u5kjih56qpk

>>8131495
Wasn't supposed to post that pic, oops

is 3DGE a good source port? i'm slightly interested in trying it for whatever reason. idk i saw this star wars mod for it and it was like Dark forces, anybody played this?

>>8131464

retard question but does anyone know how to link source ports in zdl for linux. using mint and lcferrums version

>>8130992
Pls respond

>>8131517
I'm on Linux but I've never used ZDL, sorry. I have to assume you just click Add on the SourcePort list, no...?

>>8131514
based

>>8131464
>>8131514
>No DSDA Doom
dropped

>>8130992
It's fun but I don't think it's that begginer-friendly, it has some really annoying parts and some really irritating ones
If you're following that Skill progression list thing at Doomworld, just skip Moonblood, you'll find better wads along the way

>>8131514

>>8131464
what's the skull one?

>>8131464
>tfw the only two sourceports you use are GZDoom and Zandronum
>and you kinda hate them both

>>8131464
Wheres F tier? Thats the only place Doomsday belongs.

>>8129156
Played up to "The Diabolist". Brilliant set so far.

>>8131464

>>8131532
Well, what else then?

Base Ganymede and Sigil are Doom 1 only, so not really relevant for a beginner because I want to expose them to the expanded roster of enemies. TNT goes from mediocre to absolutely terrible towards the latter half. Memento Mori is a historically relevant WAD but very very meh to play.

And then right after those comes Plutonia, so again, I'd love something to bridge that gap.

>>8131464

>>8131525
Figured it out. Had to go to the exact file Crispy Doom was in for the path, and I had no idea where it was.
I only just installed linux last night so i'm bumbling around trying to figure out where things are and how stuffs works as a windowsfag.
basically i was trying stupid shit first

>>8131560
That's understandable, glad you got it. Congrats on the switch by the way, hope you like it

>linux users not setting DOOMWADPATH or DOOMWADDIR
explain yourselves

>using linux
>not using it with the Dave Taylor port
Yikes

>>8131561
I've only installed it on a family laptop nobody uses, but thanks. I am genuinely interested in making the switch for my main PC at some point.
Now to get see about some wads and other source ports for doom on the go on this bitch.

>>8131574
Get yourself DSDA Doom, it'll play anything you throw at it - vanilla, limit-removing, boom, mbf, mbf21. (except of course GZDoom-specific wads, but you just use GZDoom for those)

Speaking of which, if you're on a potato and do want to use GZDoom, check out the GLES experimental build, it's more potato friendly.

>>8131565
I just use relative paths with simple bash scripts. It works, so I don't care to change it.

>>8131554
If you want wads outside of that list, I'd recommend UAC Ultra, No Rest for the Living, Jenesis and Epic, imo they don't go that hard on the player, and, most importantly, are really fun to play

>>8131581
oh, and except Eternity-specific wads but there's like...one of those right now worth playing (Heartland)

>>8131586
Cubic Worlds by stewboy is worth playing, too.

>>8131584
>Jenesis
I was under the impression this got quite harder towards the end, no? Seeing as it's inspired by Alien Vendetta and other classic WADs like that.

And that's cool, I'm down for that, but I'm trying to find WADs that would bridge the gap between Doom 2 and Plutonia for a beginner.

I'll check out the others though, thanks

>>8127035
I'm really sorry but I'm un-claiming MAP18. Don't have it in me, turns out.

>>8131583
Ok but explain this>>8131569

>>8131565
I don't see a need to, because I just put all my WADs in the ~/.dsda-doom directory (symlinked to ~/wads) and that works

Setting my wad path to ~/.dsda-doom would be redundant because it already looks there

>>8131598
First two or three levels are really though, it gets really soft towards the end
Like two maps, 28 I think? and 30 had you killing another texture that spawns monsters, those levels are more of a drag than anything else, specially map30, but the rest of the wad is quite well balanced and fun

>>8131602
I play wads that use advanced source port features.

>>8131569
the funny thing about that port is that it no longer runs in binary form and trying to build it doesn't work because the source code is full of typos

Some retard thinks the Jaguar port is better than PSX one right now.

>>8131613
Did someone make it work?

>>8131620
i did, once

>>8131621
May i see it?

>>8131625
i did say once, like a very long time ago. it's probably still possible.

>>8131584
>UAC Ultra
This one looks super dope. Only played the first level but I can tell that this might be what I'm looking for.

>>8131626
How

>>8131635
you run "make" and fix whatever the compiler is complaining about.

>>8129954
Adding these now, should they just alternate between the unlit and lit frames? I'm pretty sure MBF21 has a "jumpiftargetclose" function that could make them light up or shut off if you approach them, would that be cool? I've also added the fountains from >>8131179, but not the second set in the rows because they look more like splash impacts to me.

>>8131638
On modern linux?

>>8131668
linux 10 years ago. one of the reasons the binary releases don't work is because of glibc iirc.

is there a game that's painkiller crossed with serious sam? (those count as /vr/ now right?)
like bunnyhopping around a giant map with fully navigable terrain + mowing down hundreds to thousands + the enemies are actually dangerous and have defined roles and you can't outrun or dodge all of them
i guess i should be asking if there are quake slaughter maps that actually work with quake's enemy behavior or tweak it so it does work

Does Rise of the Triad have worthwhile source ports?

>>8131560
>>8131574
Hey sup fellow linuxfag. If you're using Crispy-Doom, did you compile it yourself or did you install the package for it? If the latter, just keep in mind that the package is seriously outdated and whatever faggot maintains it clearly doesn't want to update it.

>>8131632
It's a competent techbase wad with older DOOM sensibilities, that is so well-made it can occasionally seem safe or dull the way BTSX does. I wish 40oz would be experimental more often. Too much Romero, not enough Sandy.

>>8131691
Not yet. Only tolerable way I found to play it was to run it in DosBOX and turn off all vertical mouse movement.

>>8131691
Rottexpr is the only decent one I can think of - and it really is only decent. Better than dosbox though.

>>8131689
The only slaughter map for Quake I can think of is QUCK from 2017. There might be more but I've never seen them

>>8131694
>BTSX
I never really got the hype with these. The only standout thing about them is the music, really. Episode 1 is okay but Episode 2 is pretty ugh.

>>8131708
>>8131689
Unforgiven by Tronyn.

>>8131709
Episode 2 is much better, IMO.

>>8131692
I installed the package. In that case I'll switch over to PrBoom+ or one of the forks. I think I actually meant to do that over Crispy, but I got them mixed up.

>>8131581
Cheers. I'll check this one out.

>>8131731
Their idea of difficulty is just "spam archviles lol". The encounter design is very boring.

>>8131734
DSDA Doom is the best and most actively developed fork of PrBoom+ nowadays. Your other option is the UMAPINFO fork (aka Grafboom), but honestly DSDA Doom is just better even if you're just a casual player that doesn't want to speedrun.

>>8131737
>Their idea of difficulty is just "spam archviles lol"
Oh you're that faggot.

>>8131741
What does it have over prboom-um?

>>8131742
Which one

>>8131741
DSDA is a fork of PrBoom+ 2.6um

Friendly reminder that we have our very own in-house autist-approved source port, From Doom With Love, which is a fork of DSDA-Doom

>>8131742
He has a point, I like BTSX 2 but the use of Archviles gets pretty predictable after awhile.

I stopped using dsda doom cause its latest version makes DNS connections with some pretty shady ips. Nah I'm good. It's a doom source port. I dont need it making dns.

>>8131757
Imagine spreading FUD like this

>>8131760
It's not fud at all. Upload the exe to virus total and check the relations tab. It does make dns with different ips. None of the other source ports I've used have a relations tab.

>>8131757
where's your meds

>>8131769
Bruh. The source code is available for anyone to see. You can just check.

https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/32eaac0cf4d94daec66ca91a168ddf44d1c29b10b2eb48319211dad603d474ae/relations

this is the relations tab of the lastest exe of DSDA doom. yes it does make dns

>>8131779
I think this is just a you problem, anon
Nothing here, compiled it myself.

Again, quit spreading FUD unless you actually present evidence that there is malicious code on an open source project that is visible to anyone on github (good luck by the way)

>>8131786
i just provided you proof. the latest exe of DSDA does make DNS with shady IP's. No other source port i've ever used had a relations tab. where its documented contacting domains and establishing a DNS. It does do that.

>>8131779
False positive based on how the auto builds are set up. Chocolate and crispy doom had the same issue for a while.

>>8131787
You did not provide proof, you provided an analysis of an EXE that we have no idea where you got. I showed you a counter example of my own, the DSDA-Doom binary compiled on my own machine from the source code on github, has nothing in it.

Go look at the fucking code you dweeb

>>8131792
yeah and fuck off. thats the latest version provided in the doom world thread 21.3. It does establish dns. Idc what you say. its not fud. Virustotal is right and you're wrong.

>>8131791
its such a false positive versions prior like 19.7 don't do it but newer ones do?