/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8130626
NOT RETRO

like this

>>8130632
It's common courtesy to investigate the rules of boards on the internet when you first join them.

>>8130626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJVjxqxZm60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PXCIPlGosQ
or you could just emulate I suppose.

>>8130660
Part of the reason I made this thread is because I thought there was a support or something? Was I hallucinating that?

>>8130626
Boomer is someone born in the 1950s r retard. What r u a low iq lefty?

The term your looking for is millennium since that's when TR came out

>>8130697
"boomer" has mutated to mean over 30. we might just be done with naming specific generations.

>>8130626
>enjoying the nuRaider games
The old ones are rather different (and better).
>What's the best way to play them in this day and age?
Use OpenLara for the first Tomb Raider.
Peixoto patches for 2-4.
Legend, Anniversary, and Underworld should run on modern machines without any tinkering.

>>8130632
>NOT RETRO

But, It was released in 1996...

>>8130781
Perfect, thanks.

>>8130715
Meaning that today's generation is too stupid to understand meanings to what they go to.

Pathetic

>>8130806
I'm 62 years old

>>8130806

>>8130632
t. falsefagging GBA/PS2 zoomer

>>8130715
imagine explaining memes, newfag

>>8130626
Emulate then on Duckstation
Skip Chronicles and AoD

>>8130626
I would play on ps1/dreamcast if you can. The graphics have a bit more charm on console and it just works unlike the PC which needs a patch to fix music etc. They play better with a controller too.

If you get frustrated easily, I think all of the PC games let you save anywhere whilst a couple of the ps1 games have limited save crystals. 3 in particular is more difficult on ps1.

I'll probably get flak for that, but Lara was always better than her games and deserved better. Fuck Eidos and especially fuck squareenix.

>>8130969
i don't have to

>>8131227
based

>>8131420

>>8130626
>being a boomer and enjoying the nuRaider games.
should have flushed yourself

>>8130626
By playing a real game like pic related

>>8132987
>real game
>posts a video movie

>>8132993
Your waifu is also dogshit

>>8130626
PS1 is really easy to emulate, just go play it.

>>8132987
>Real game
>posts the shittiest game of the trilogy
Lmao

i realised that while me jacking off i found out that Fortnite is teh worst game ever ;)

>>8133262
Fortnite is better than nulara games, so you're wrong.

https://www.tombraiderforums.com/showthread.php?t=214355

>>8133338
Pretty much the only one I disagree with is Anniversary on WII. 360 is better, and the PC port of that game is based on the PS2 version.
The Legends trilogy overall is best on 360. Only the Underworld PC port is good, but it's also missing the exclusive DLC, if you want the full experience.

>>8131227
3 is ruined on pcs. basically makes no medkits run worthless

>>8133429
retarded self imposed challenges are worthless

>>8133338
Loading screen images a plus? Maybe when those games came out since disc drives back then were slower and could load as much data as quickly.

>>8133502
>were slower and COULDN'T load as much data as quickly
was what I meant. I like the ps1 versions, but since getting the pc versions, I haven't had much interest in going back except for maybe TLR and Chronicles.

I emulate the PS1 versions and use savestates to emulate the PC's ability to save anywhere. Of course it makes the games much easier; but I had TR3 on PS1 as a kid and don't want to go through that again, nor do I want the shitty lighting or poor gamepad support of the PC version.

>>8130626
Best way to play them is any way that lets you save scum. The controls are way too ass to do the same jumps over and over and having to start a sequence over.

>>8131227
Steam has a "Big Picture Mode" where you can use controllers on games without support. They have a custom user template specifically for TR that controls exact like it did on ps1. I used it.

>>8133243
Based.
1 > 2 >>>> 3. I allow 2 > 1 types though. They're on par for me.

Forgot about the action adventure game 101 block puzzles and how much combat there is, probably not going to stick it out as much as I like the tombraiding concept of the game.

>>8132993
>>8133243
The shittiest MGS game is better than the best TR game.

>saved anon's dump of the entire franchise a while back to download when I feel like playing the rest of it
>check it a couple days ago
>all the links are dead

>>8134876
>the shitty lighting
explain

>>8133338
jesuschrist...

>>8135471
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA
Here you can find 1, 2 and 4 but without FMVs

>>8136192
>but without FMVs
Am I missing out without them. That was the only way I knew what the fuck was happening in the first game.

>>8134876
save crystal scarcity is exaggerated. you will find enough of them. first level can be completed without even using one, then use them before a hard jump you know you will fuck up. then after you die, you gonna keep doing that jump and will eventually perfect it where it's no big deal anymore, so not much progress gonna be repeated

>>8130626
>being a boomer
I highly doubt that. What are you 70 years old?

>>8136424
hownew.ru

Buy a physical PS2 and physical copy of the game.
As it was meant to be played.

Be warned that the original games were 95% exploration and 5% action.
The blocky 3D maps are big logic puzzles and you will spend most of your time pulling levers and figuring out how to get where you want to be.
Oh and the jumping puzzles. Lining yourself up perfectly... and realizing that sometimes you need to jump facing backwards instead of forwards because Lara's backwards jump has different arc.

>>8136514
based swedish weeb

>>8136501
>PS2

>>8130626
Given that the original Tomb Raider was originally developed as a Sega Saturn exclusive, playing it on the Saturn is the way to get the most original and authentic experience of the game IMHO

>>8136521
I mean the controller will be virtually the same, and that way they can play PS2 games as well.

>>8130626
Only the original game is any good. The rest had too many urban environments and doubled down on the shitty combat.

>>8136550
TR:LR is waiting for you bro. Play it

>>8135651
Not that anon, but the PC versions had different brightness settings compared to the ps1 versions (although much less noticeable in TR2). Usually, the contrast was cut down by around .5, but in 3's case, all animated objects (Lara, NPC's, anything animated) had the brightness altered even further making those darker compared to the pc version. You can use dgvoodoo to get the contrast sorta back to what the ps1 version looked like, but the animated stuff will not match.

>>8135471
Give it some time, anon. I can't say for certain, but that dump usually gets posted in these threads eventually.

>>8137117
Okay, I will be patient and download everything when anon delivers again.

>>8130697
10/10 if bait
0/10 if real

>>8136519
>swedish
???

>>8138390
Look at the alarm clock.
But the truth is those clocks are sold at Ikea. I don't speak any Swedish.

Original Womb Raider was creepy. No music, just footsteps most the time.

>>8138728
fuck off out of here mate

>>8130626
I never seen this posted on here. I sure found some quirky stuff like overlapping or non euclidian rooms.
>http://www.evpopov.com/

>>8140010
Doing dynamic culling on map geo wasn't exactly new when TR came along.

>>8136237
Considering all the normal versions you find online have them and run just fine with minimal tinkering, I don't see why you should deprive yourself
>>8137117
Thank, I didn't know.

>>8141462
post a better Lara, i'll wait

>>8141540
I cropped this image from the comic, wish I knew how to add transparency instead of those white pixels.
Andy Park is the best artist when it comes to depicting Lara.

>>8137542
this.

>>8130626
Steam, unironically

>>8142962
What does steam have over gog?

>>8141584
anon, it was only an excuse to post sexy laras
>Andy Park is the best artist when it comes to depicting Lara
based and park-pilled

ps1 + crt tv
thank me later

>>8137117
>different brightness settings
It was more than that, TR3 on PC had the same lighting system as TR2, while the PS1 version had a brand new lighting system.

Damn, I really hate that I have to bump best vidya girl's thread.

>>8130626
Retroarch (Beetle HW or Duckstation core)

Best atmosphere, crispy low-res like TR was designed for, plus PGXP to fix the PSX's polygon jitters and affine texture warp.

The water caustics in TR are done by varying color values on a per-vertex base, right?! That would explain why underwater areas are rather densely (and sometimes wildly) tessellated.

>>8145550
Clever way of doing faux refractions; simply displace the geometry below the water surface.

>>8130626
get duckstation

>>8138728

>>8130626
Old Tomb Raider was way better. The tank controls were actually deeply intertwined into the game so it gets ruined if they ever remade it without them. If you are one of those guys who bitches about tank controls then stay way the fuck away because Tomb Raider might as well be the picture definition of the concept. The games were the GOAT action adventure games of their era and I refuse to accept anyone claiming otherwise.

>>8147304
Who are you talking to? In these threads no critics is accepted anyway.

>>8147304
You're right because of the grid-like nature of the level design, but tank controls the way TR does it physically hurt my hand, so I will still complain.

>>8147304
My only problem is them making walking so exaggeratedly slow.

Post the most rare Lara you have.

>>8149591

>>8149591

_____ raider

>>8149591

>>8151145
jesuschrist if it wasn't for the abs...

>>8130626
>and enjoying the nuRaider games
The originals aren't for you. Try life is strange instead.

I just want Lara to thrive.

>>8154291
Then Square Enix needs to close down Eidos Montreal. Or Square should go altogether.

>>8140010
https://noclip.website/
You'll like this as well.

>>8136550
>>8130626
Agree the 1st is the best by far. You're exploring actual tombs. You can really feel the emptiness and impressive ancient archeology.
Then starting with the 2nd game you're not even exploring tombs anymore, instead dumb places like modern Venice, except there are no civilians in the city

>>8154414
You're exploring tombs in 2 as well. For 3 I think the aztec ruins count too. As for 4, we're back in the pyramids.

>>8131227
Unironically this

>>8130626
GoG version. Old Tomb Raider games are really cool.

>>8154396
This is cool, they even have PS2 games.
I guess they ripped the level files from the disc? I don't see any other way.

>>8130715
only zoomer faggots think this

>>8154396
I've never seen this website before. Really cool, thanks.

1 and 4 are 'tomb' raider games. 2 nad 3 are half tombs; half garbage city tour in uninteresting places

>>8130626
I'd recommend playing the fan-made custom crossover Resident Evil Tomb Raider game "Tomb Raider: Biohazard". It's a series of connected custom levels, takes place in Northern Ireland in 1993, before Resident Evil 1.

>>8154414
>>8158179
>>8154424
>>8154414
2nd game has the Great Wall of China level. That alone makes it worth playing.

>>8158179
Can't you select level pathing on TR3? If so, were would someone start and go through if he wanted to get rid of the boring half gargabe city tour and then go into the half tomb in the second segment of the game?

>>8164964
You go into military base first because you will lose your equipment

>>8165705
This make me wondering how many times was Lara captured? And if there a possibility something could happen to her here?

So I've recently begun a TR series play through. I'm replaying most, if not all, on PC. I'm not adverse to modding (I'm using TombATI for TR1 currently, and it works like a champ, along with the higher resolution cutscenes.... no texture packs though)

I don't really get people that bitch about the PC version of the game. I had it up and running in less than 5 minutes and am even using a controller (right click game in steam library - properties - controllers - use steam input) and it works just like the PSX version.

What bugs me a bit is finding out about Underworlds lack of DLC on the PC version. Is this just straight up lost media now? I don't think the X360 servers work anymore (could be wrong) and I would have t get a 360 to boot (hard to come by in my region, although I COULD order one online). Is there ANY way to play that DLC on PC? Last I checked there's still no 360 emulator, so wtf do I do?

is the DLC even worth it? I remember those three (Legend, Anniversary, and Underworld) having a sort of trilogy storyline. If I don't play the DLC am I missing out?

>>8165865
I heard one of the dlcs is pretty good (not the doppelganger one).

>>8165843
I can't tell if this is a photo or rendered

>>8165880
Look at the top right

>>8165705
>going to nevada first
It's the best of the 3 paths you can choose though.

>>8165865
The games aren't even worth it. Anything past TR5 is shit, arguably TR3 is the last "good" TR game, TR4 is only half good and 5 feels like a community map pack for TR3 with graphics from 4.

>>8165880
It's the chromatic aberration that puts you off.

>>8137542
I occasionally make not-knowing-about-the-redefinition-of-"boomer" posts as bait, so it might be. I've also made one post unironically the first time I saw the meme.

Some others I'd recommend include insulting the intelligence of anyone who says "wa la" on /ck/, as well as correcting deliberate misuse of pallet/pellet/palate/etc.

>>8150808

This looks comfy unironically

>>8154396
Thanks, stuf like this is pretty cool! I really love peeking behind the scenes, especially on retro 3D games.

>>8130626
Waht's your favourite Tomb Raider game Lore-wise, and why?

>>8165865
>I don't really get people that bitch about the PC version of the game.
Because on a mountaintop saddle making enthusiast board unless you play the emulated PSX version on a modified Xbox running a virtual machine of Linux you are not doing it right.
>there's still no 360 emulator
Xenia works with a few games, I don't know if Underworld is among them.

>>8167425
I'd have to pick TR3 or 4.

>TR1
Love the game for the classic that it is.
The spaghetti-and-meatballs aesthetic of the Atlanteans really breaks the immersion for me.

>TR2
Dislike the urban and industrial locations.
Dislike the Italian (hitscan) mobsters.
Not much lore behind the dagger of Xian.

>TR3
Dislike the confusing level design.
Dislike the London and Area 51 levels.
Love the meteor and ancient Polynesian lore.

>TR4
Probably the best game of the first generation.
Dislike some of the confusing puzzles.
Love the setting and locations.

>>8167425
TLR

>>8167512
>spaghetti-and-meatballs aesthetic
???

>>8167569
The Atlanteans are made of it and Great Pyramid is covered in it.

>>8167425
2, because fuck yeah dragon.
2 > 1 > 4 > 3
Didn't play the rest to completion. I put 4 above 3 because 3 feels more like a patchwork of """"homages"""" (more like rip-offs with how it's handled) than an actual story they cared writing about.

>>8167730
Speaking of TR2, can someone enlighten me on what or where the Floating Islands are?

>>8167408 >>8156271 >>8155320
Do a search on YouTube for boundary break, it's all about noclipping and freecam to look beyond game borders.

>>8167569
The Atlanteans have no skin, and Atlantis itself has a lot of biomechanical shit going on.

>>8167908
Aliens? Or some ancient civilization nonsense?

>>8167847
it's an alternative reality made by the mystic power inside the dagger. We don't know where did it come from and knowing its powerful energy and capabilities to change a human being into a giant dragon we can also expect that. There's no other explanation, but remember the TR3 lore too. Some kind of extraterrestrial shit going there.

Floating Islands is a surrealist world made to keep and protect the dagger and its true entity behavior (that's why of the green guardians and the insane and twisted traps and rooms you have to pass through).

>>8167946
Aliens. That's the twist of the story.

>>8167946
Ancient civilization.

>>8167847
Just my opinion, but the whole final section minus Home Sweet Home appears to be based on lore of the Tomb of the First Emperor, just with a whole lot less mercury. The Floating Isles would be the outer palace area, with the Dragon's Lair the inner. Could just be based on any other emperor's tomb, though, but that's the one it makes me think of. As for why the level is the way it is:

>Heather Gibson: The inspiration behind the Floating Islands came from a programme I had seen on the Documentary Channel about Chinese myths. In a region in China an optical illusion of floating islands is created by particular weather patterns. The Chinese believed that these mirages were real islands in the sky belonging to the Emperors of the afterlife.

>Jade and dragon fire inspired the colour palette and the Jade islands have a self-illuminating texture which gave them a magical quality.

So does anyone still have a Prima (at least I think it was Prima) walkthrough guide for TR4? I had one years ago when I was a kid and I distincly remember a part where it says something along the lines of "A towlhead will pop out around the corner, send him to Allah and move on."

>>8168918
Interesting. Is that from an interview for a magazine or something?

also, if you're gonna post some based comment like that, attach a cool lara

You can play the first one in browser it has the crystal save system and enhanced graphics.

http://xproger.info/projects/OpenLara/

>>8130626
Boomer is from the 1940-50
If your claiming you were around during tomb raider then that would make you a millennium.

So your either a liar and a shit talker zoomer, a nigger or a low iq retard

>>8170079
that looks worse than PS1 graphics

>>8154396
>https://noclip.website/
how is this being rendered in browser

>>8170085
Don't be a retarded contrarian.

>>8170084
>look I'm being obtuse, heh

>>8170085
>that looks worse than PS1 graphics

you're just wrong

>>8169857
It's from this interview:
https://tomb-of-ash.tumblr.com/post/100836774445/interview-with-heather-gibson

>>8170636
thanks bro

>>8170084
>The generation is generally defined as people born from 1946 to 1964, during the post–World War II baby boom.
>to 1964

>>8167425
>Waht's your favourite Tomb Raider game Lore-wise, and why?
The Last Revelations. Why?
Amazing attention to details, they went insane with this game. Deep down Egyptian mythology, even some puzzles based on this. I absolutely loved that they included ancient game of Senet or Cleopatra's flooded ruins in Alexandria, The final puzzle is based directly on ritual of weighting heatrs straight from egyptian book of the dead. Amazing game that tests your tomb raiding skills like no other TR game ever.

>>8130697
>what is slang

>>8133434
Playing video games is worthless too but it's fun so I don't get how you can sit there and write this drivel.

>>8170079
I guess whoever created this project was an n64 fan.

>tfw page 10 again

>>8178627
Ah, it was 2 weeks already. That's it.