/vr/ - Retro Games

It's a human thing you wouldn't get it, rigger.

In a world filled with bloatware shit that takes GBs of memory to get running people find things like this fascinating. Nobody would try to meme you into thinking the early Doom ports were superior or even anything beyond mediocre at best. It's interesting to see how they worked around the limitations of this shit hardware and managed to get anything going at all though.

Jaguar doom was the best console doom and is #2 after dos

>>8128846
Pic related is best console port

>>8128820
They’re trannies, they’ll be dead soon

>>8128820
Curiosity thing, I guess, and apparently the Jaguar has a small but strong homebrewing scene, so maybe they could learn from it. That's not any graphical assets or anything though, that's just the source code for the Jaguar port of Doom.

Personally, I'd be more interested to see the various mockups of new content that had supposedly been made for the 3DO port. There's been a little bit of it released, some production stills from some unfinished FMV sequences Art Data Interactive wanted to implement, which got nixed, but supposedly there were concepts for new weapons and monsters which were never implemented or even remotely finished, and that's mildly interesting to me. I suspect that's just one of those things which are lost to time, however, and I don't lose sleep over it.

>>8128846
Playstation Doom is a lot better overall.

>>8128820
Why do faggots shill this shit?

>>8129227
Shill what? I don't see any product.

If this dumb Jew bitch had just stayed anonymous she could have shadow dropped the content online.

Instead these morons care about online clout and e-fame and have to announce what they have so they are liable and can't actually release it. Many such cases.

Why are hoarders like this such massive attention whores?

>>8129362
This

>>8128846
>>8128871
>>8128998

None of the console ports got it right and i played them all. If i had to choose one, it would be the SNES port. It's not saying much, but you can't argue it.

>>8128871
This was my first taste of Doom. Played it for like 8 hours straight.

>>8128871
Garbage

>>8128820
Hey, that's really cool for William Salvador Heineman. I wish him all the best and good luck in his future endeavors.

>>8129390
No it wasn't. Why lie?

>>8129362
*tranny

>>8129362
Many such cases!

>>8128998
Apparently it does have Jaguar Doom's assets as well, though barring some minute palette differences, they have to be 99% identical to the original assets or the other console port assets.

>>8129383
Really? I like the weird music in that port, but it runs like ass. Check out Doom 64 also, though that's more like its own game than a port.

>>8129390
No, that's the Saturn port, the Playstation port ran well and had some nice new content. Some changes for the better, some changes for the worse, but overall very enjoyable.

>>8129417
Horrible sound & music, horrible controls.
Console peasant.

>>8129425
Fuck off poorfag peasant. Console owners need to be ridiculed and beaten.

>>8129449
The music is different, not horrible. The controls are fine for a gamepad.

>Console peasant.
I had a C64 and an Amiga and I have owned various Windows PCs, you schizo.

>>8129236
>words mean what one dumb kid imagines they do

>>8129458
No it's shit.

>>8129549
Being different from the original doesn't make it shit.

>>8129227
Incel AIDS. They can't keep this garbage in their shitty general because they want everybody to be as miserable as possible.

>>8129362
E thot who can't get likes for her face or body but still craves likes, oy vey, many such cases.
She got what she wanted there will be no dump.

>>8128820
>I liek chocolate milk
>Awww yisss
>Anime gurl avatar
I know Doom and it's fans are peak Reddit, but this borders on parody.

The PS1, Jaguar, and 3do ports have PC sourceports now if you want to play them accurately with a mouse and keyboard.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/111024-psydoom-081-psx-doom-port-reverse-engineered-for-pc/

https://github.com/team-eternity/calico-doom

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Phoenix_Doom

>>8129590
>>8129362
E-thot? Isn't this just the original port dev showing development material? Anyway, no staying anonymous with this, they'll deduce that the source of such a leak is the one guy who Carmack Fedexed a copy to.

>>8129836
Fair point, but plausible deniability is plausible deniability. She's jewish, 100% she has a good lawyer in her family.

>>8129362
you get mad for this type of things faggot? lmao what a pathetic little whore

>>8129362
>she
>hoarder
Anon, I think you need to look up some things.

>>8128871
This is based on Jaguar Doom.

>>8128871
No it's not. The new music and lighting does not fit the game at all. You can't go super spooky but still have the normal ass gameplay of Doom there's a reason id ditched it being a straight up horror game early on and I'm sick of you fags who watch some cunt on youtube praise this port suck it off. Jaguar port was the best port from that era, in fact it was so good a lot of other console ports were built off of it.

>>8131596
>More levels some of then exclusive
>Doom 2 enemies in 1
COPE

>>8131596
>No it's not. The new music and lighting does not fit the game at all. You can't go super spooky but still have the normal ass gameplay of Doom
Personally, I don't think most of the new sounds fit the classic monsters, and I much prefer the original soundtrack with its varied mix of high tempo themes and tense atmospheric tracks.

That said, I also think the combined effect of the sounds, 'music', reverb, and colored lighting makes for a distinct atmosphere, not better than the original, but also not bad. The originals on PC are still much superior, but I personally find the PSX version enjoyable for what it iis and I see what people enjoy about it.
I think that Doom 64 goes the full way though with new graphics and levels to go with the 'music' and sound, and makes for a much better game than PSX Doom and really being its very own game distinct from the original.

>there's a reason id ditched it being a straight up horror game early on
I don't think Doom was ever full on horror at any point in development, they were always aiming to make it a fast game one way or the other, and the horror aspect is absolutely there. Doom isn't a horror game, it's an action and exploration game, but it has deliberate horror themes going for it, levels like E2M6 are full of dark and oppressive tunnels and cruel traps, set to a slow and ominous theme literally dubbed 'Sinister'
Calling Doom a horror game isn't right, but saying Doom has no horror is incorrect, because it definitely has some deliberate horror to it scattered around the games.

>>8129391
i see what you did there

>>8131596
>>and I'm sick of you fags who watch some cunt on youtube praise this port suck it off.
Who? Why do people keep coming up with this retarded cope whenever they find themselves disagreeing with a common opinion? There's a lot of versions of Doom, and a lot of people played them, for many PSX Doom was their first time playing it back in the 90s and early 2000s, and to them it's often preferable to the original because it's what they grew up with.
People have plundered this or that aspect from PSX Doom for decades now, to then put into their own .wads on PC, because they like it and want those things in their levels, this predates the existence of YouTube, much less whatever e-celeb you've got a gripe with who likely sprung up only in the last decade.

I think that Aubrey Hodge's music is kind of boring, and is strongly inferior to the original music in Doom, Quake, and Quake 2, only really working at all in Doom 64 (and even then, I still find it mostly lacking), but I also don't flip my fucking lid whenever I encounter someone who prefers it to Bobby Prince's or Trent Reznor's original work.
I don't blame some faggot on YouTube for that, I blame them having worse taste to me and I don't take it very personally or look for (frankly imaginary) reasons to angry.

>>8131596
>Jaguar port was the best port from that era, in fact it was so good a lot of other console ports were built off of it.
The Jaguar port ran well because Carmack had the patience to exploit its bizarre hardware, at the expense of ingame music.
The reason that the Jaguar port was used as a basis for other ports wasn't so much because that port was the most efficient possible, it was because it was already written and could be adapted for some of these other systems. This still meant a bunch of rewriting though, the PSX port had lots of work done to adapt it to its machine, and it's got music as a result. The 3DO port used the same code as a base, but it was an obscenely rushed contractual obligation port which runs like dildos, it has barely any work put into adapting it to that hardware (because there was no time).
Looking at the GBA ports, the first is based on Jaguar Doom, and it runs fairly poorly (especially with lighting variation on), then the second one does the smart thing and just runs the game in an engine designed for the GBA, and it runs a bit better.

The Nintendo 64 game I'm pretty sure doesn't use the Jaguar as a base at all.

>>8129590
>>8131394
hmm