/vr/ - Retro Games

>>8102910
There are not enough 90's girls with drill hair.

>>8102910
gee Mikae i'm sorry i was late for our date but i had SAVE REMI FROM HER KIDNAPPERS THAT WANTED TO RAPE HER AND THEN RANSOME HER OFF but did you have to GO AND FUCK THE GUY IVE HATED SINCE KINDERGARTEN???

what a cunt

>>8103980
That was my fav girl from TL.

>>8102910
Are there any dating sims on the same level of quality as Tokimeki aside from Mitsumete Knight?

did any of these kinds of games get localized?

>>8102910
It is pretty much like Tokimemo but with better looking characters. Aside from the PS360 release, it was the last time Sparkster made an appearance.

>>8105068
My favorite game is Kakyuusei
It's similar at first glance with the phone calls and dates and state events during certain seasons, but it lacks the entire stat-raising gameplay system so it's a simpler game. It has a couple of things Tokimemo doesn't, though, like Doukyuuse-style town map exploration.

>>8105878
>state events
*date events

>>8102910
Sentimental Graffiti.

>>8102910
>doing the Sarah route blind
>get the Chrysalis Flower event
Well shit, guess I gotta restart and befriend the princess

>>8106748
BASED AS FUCK. I just bought this for the Saturn; waiting for it to be delivered. First time I played it was when it got released in the west on PS3 for some reason and I loved it. Can't remember a damn thing about it though.

ive been playing flowers kokoro no hana recently because i love sayooshi
its a totally different game than that but its still pretty nice
posting best girl (the teacher)

>>8105112
>Transparent Tokimemo case.
Not bugfixed ver. 4

>>8109895
I spent more time with it on Saturn anyway, I guess that one is bugfixed since I didn't run into any in my playthroughs. The PCE one was just cheap from a recycle shop.

>>8110927
>Dramaseries
What's that like? I don't know much about the supplemental material.

>>8106748
I always smile when I remember that the MC of this game got hit by a car and died a virgin according to the sequel.

>>8105068
No. The reason Tokimeki Memorial 1 is so good is because everything about it is great: the music, the art, the careful balance between mostly realistic scenarios and dialogues and crazier anime/sentai/robo sequences, the challenge level, the satisfying grind through multiple playthroughs trying to figure out how to win Shiori. The little loving touches like this photo album you get as part of the ending. It's not good because it's a dating sim, it's good because everything was well-thought-out and given attention and care.

Every game after it missed the fucking point, even Tokimemo 2. The art is just disgusting generic anime, the music is usually stock, the girls are stereotypes, there's no difficulty or stakes. They focus too hard on magnifying the flashier aspects of dating interactions because that's ostensibly what it's about, but they forget to make a well-rounded experience altogether.

>>8112182
bumping this

>>8110927
>>8112393
>>8112393
Dogimagi Imagination

>>8112182
I played the Nijino Saki one when it came out but all I remember now is kicking soccer balls a lot

Is it any good?

>>8102910
How the fuck do I get sparkster to appear

>>8116123
bump

I'm waiting for the PS1 version of Tokimeki Memorial currently. It's been sitting in the customs office for over two weeks now, I don't know what the fuck they're doing with it for so long.

>>8118653
I've got both the ps1 and sega saturn version

>>8106748
After Tokimemo, Mitsumete Knight, and Sakura Taisen, I remember that being hyped up as the next big date sim game. There were like 12 characters and the preorder bonuses had you choose one without knowing a damn thing about any of them. The game was quite boring, and a huge failure by comparison to the aforementioned titles.

>>8112182
Mostly like digital novels. For fans, as Saki was pretty popular being the sporty girl. The second one focused on the annoying girl that would exclaim something in English then the exact same thing again in Japanese. The 3rd one was with the childhood friend that has ridiculously high standards and the pity girl when the game realizes the player is so bad with everyone. I have not played Selection yet though.

>>8114079
Doujins can have strange titles to disassociate themselves from the source material.

>>8105112
>>8110927
>>8119092
Holy shit, the amount of SOUL in those pics. I wish I had picked up more older games and a white Saturn when I went to Japan two years ago.

I recognize that Tokimeki is great but damn is it stressful sometimes. Bomb diffusal simulator.

>>8119386
so just like in real life

>>8119386
You’re better off if you just try not to neglect anyone rather than defuse the bombs as they come up. If you just wait for them to happen, eventually you’re going to pop like 3 to 5 at once and have no way to fix it.

>>8116120
Satoshi Urushihara?
Is there a VN about volleyball with Urushihara's character design? Damn, if that's true, this is really the time I decide to learn about Nipponese runes.

Is there a list of recommended dating sims anywhere? I tried looking on that /v/ wikia page with recommendations, but surprisingly couldn't find anything on them.

Is there any other official dating sims or similar elements that actually been released in the West? I'm aware of some fan translated games. but something that actually got released in the states? I know Sakura Wars 5 did came over.

>>8120721
I also aware of True Love being localized in the States.

>>8120721
All I can think of are eroge like Season of Sakura (although I'm not sure if I consider them a pure dating sim).

When JAST USA began distributing and locating various eroge a decade/fifteen years ago

>tfw a Sailor Moon dating sim was never made

>>8119092
Damn granite countertop anon has a negative opinion about a game he's posting about?

>>8112393
the reason tokimemo1 is so great is because yuina is in it

>>8121463
Based

>>8121463
This

Is learning japanese required to play all these old charming sim games?

The PSX and Saturn games may have some more scenes and features, but my favorite version of Tokimeki Memorial will always be the PC-E one, such a great use of the CD-ROM format on this console.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G14bzGaFf_4

The BEST opening, IMO. And I'm a big fan of the PC Engine graphics. Furthermore, I also like the voice acting in the first version the better, although the voice actresses are the same, in the first version they feel different somehow, although this may be just me.

>>8121593
The PC Engine was an absolute beast. I can't imagine what it must've been like to play Tengai Makyo back in '89, and then see the SuFami and MD's paltry offerings around the same period with mediocre audio, and voice acting being a complete impossibility until the Mega CD a couple of years later.

>>8121593
>The BEST opening, IMO.
Back then I definitely preferred traditional videogame cutscene graphics over FMV, 'cause video compression wasn't great so FMV had blocky artifacts. Plus, unless you have serious budget & talent, trying to make a fully animated opening will just look cheap, like compare the PC-98 opening of YU-NO to the Saturn one.

The true way to use Tokiemeki Memorial Saturn version's exclusive self-confess option is to make girls hate you and then ask them be your girlfriend to see what they say:
https://youtu.be/5VhKdjA4ghc?t=244

>>8121813
>nozomi
lol

Got these babies in. Probably gonna start Tokimeki soon since I've never actually played it. I'm wondering if I shouldn't play the PCE version because I just happened to get a Mini the other day. Maybe play the Saturn version and then check out the PCE just to appreciate the aesthetic differences? There's no way I can play through it however many times on both consoles.

>>8121836
Supposedly Shiori is more difficult in the PC Engine version, so there's that.
I honestly didn't find Shiori hard in the Saturn version by the time I got to trying her, but I don't remember how many times I played before going for Shiori

This is the only game I own that could fit in this thread. I got it for free, is it any good? Never tried it.

>>8121861
I only played it once but I got blond shota boy
I didn't get the best ending though, had to confess to him myself
I remember the game having a bad load-time problem which seemed to be because the game spins down the drive every time it finishes loading anything. Check and lemme know if yours does that to.

>>8119092
sakura taisen is shit
>recently played PS2 port

What about Strawberry Marshmallow

Any yuri dating sims out there?

>>8121919
Looks like my type of game.

>>8119092
why do you have so many classic dating sims
please be honest anon

>>8121836
The PCE engine version on the PC Engine Mini is great because that way you are assured to play the latest "4FA*T" release, which may be more difficult to buy at 2nd hand marketplaces, since most sellers don't clearly photograph the disc, and it was a late release so it is way less common than the previous revisions. And you can't tell the difference between 3FA*T and 4 FA*T just by the case.

>>8122241
Unfortunately not retro but the Tokimeki Memorial Girl's Side 4th Heart game releasing soon for the Switch will have two date-able girls

>>8121919
Good, though the main problem is you can't fuck the marshmallows

>>8122723
simple.

2D>3D

Hatsukoi Monogatari

The artworks on the manual of Tokimeki Memorial is so good, as well.

>>8119740
If in real life I had ten girls chasing after me, sure.

>>8119838
Just hard to get past the mentality that other games put me in. That focus on one girl, clear, repeat.

>>8121593
What version is the PC version based on?

>>8123052
>What version is the PC version based on?
IIRC it's a port of the PSX version, albeit with a higher resolution

Pic related is the guide ("full version", was expanded when compared with the previous one included as a supplement of 1994/7 PC Engine Fan magazine) and the postcard included with the "Premium Pack" mail order-exclusive release.

>>8123069
If there were a gaming museum I think it would be successful.

>>8102910
So does anyone here know how to get Holy Knight in Mitsumete Knight? My only guess thus far is that it has to do with your stats.

To all the anons posting these cool weeb games, do you read Japanese and even play them?

>>8122767
Oh holy shit, that's good to know. Thanks for the info, anon.

>>8124427
I know enough to get by, and for any unknown vocab or confusing sentence structure, I resort to a quick google translate.

>>8124427
yah I learned Japanese in the 90s

>>8124427
Yeah, I had no interest in retro games until I recently realized I could use the Japanese I learned years ago to explore the libraries of the consoles that weren't popular in the US. I don't know why it didn't hit me sooner; probably because I'm one of the few who didn't learn the language expressly to play games, not that there's anything wrong with that.

>>8124427
I worked overseas for my company. It was either learning quickly or spending 4 very long and frustrating years in Tokyo.

>>8124427
Yeah, actually after learning Japanese I discovered a lot of games and other media I never knew even existed before and realized how much I like some of them. I will definitely never regret the moment 7 years ago when I decided to start learning this language.

>>8124427
Well, I'm still learning and playing games like this is a great opportunity to do some reading and learn new vocabulary. I feel like I'm on a good enough level to understand "everyday language" in these games/manga/anime/whatever without many problems. Of course I have to look up some words here and there, especially where there's military or political terminology, like in most mecha franchises. But it doesn't detract too much from the experience and learning this way is fun.

>>8124427
Yes? It's 2021, you should really know Japanese by now.

I'll never really understand people who have nerdy weeb hobbies for most of their teenage years, don't grow out of it in their early 20s, and are pushing 30 while thinking "uhh, I guess I'll just spend the next 60 years of my life reading and waiting for translations". I hit 25 before I couldn't stand it anymore.

>>8124427
Yes I've been living in Japan for a few years, and have re-bought my childhood collection, but in Japanese.

>>8125185
Updated photo. Have only played half of these....

>>8121919
Anon has it! >>8125196
...wait a minute, are they the same person?

>>8125231
Yes, you can see Ichigo Marshmaro in the last photo too, between キミキス and サクラ大戦.

>>8120721
If you haven't played Sakura Wars, be warned that it's not really a good game. It requires no more brain cells than average anime trash.

>>8125231
haha yeah same person :)

Here's a copy of Princess Maker 2 I picked up at Hard-Off

>>8125185
>>8125196
Good taste

>>8125284
>kodomo no jikan
ayyy

>>8125284
Nice collection, but what the hell were they thinking with those 2CD cases? I mean, they're cool, but also taller than standard jewel cases and they clash af, especially with the Playstation label on top being just the logo. And here I thought PS3 cases were bad with their different labels.

>>8125250
Aww it's not THAT bad. Way too easy, but it's cute. The second one gets like a tiny bit harder. But they're cute.

>>8124497
>can't find the prismaticallization iso
>or the marionette company iso
>except behind the allmyroms paywall
Maybe I should just buy them off ebay

>>8125464
could settle for the PS1 versions

>>8119157
Guessing you like the artstyle of '90s Japanese pop media. Admittedly, there is a flair to the varying styles that is quite appealing to me too. The suitcase limitation is rough, but Tetris-ing everything in is quite a challenge and you have to constantly account for the amount of space you have left. Plan your next trip well.

>>8121401
That is a funny episode. I can keep going, since it isn't the first time that has happened. I absolutely hate the Mortal Kombat games. Or see the following:

>>8121912
Not going to disagree with you. It is a large portion of what sunk Sega, since they put so much money into it for so little return. As much as they spent Isao's money on Shenmue, they did the same with the Sakura Taisen series and they had no turning back but to continually double down on a losing plan.

>>8122723
Because they were really cheap $1 finds in the junk bins.

>>8125645
I had one of those boxes as well, the Sakura Taisen 1 on the left.
Haven't actually played it because I killed my Saturn but cool box full of stuff.

>>8125250
>be warned that it's not really a good game.
In terms of gameplay, sure. It's a story game where the gameplay is just a delivery mechanism for cutscenes. It's kind of funny how hard Red Company got shafted in the west, they released some of the biggest titles of all time and they're barely even known because they made them for systems that were fucked like the PC Engine and Saturn so they never got translations.

>>8124427
I know Japanese, but I'm just lurking this thread, the oldest game I've played for more than a few minutes is Rance 2.

>>8125921

>>8125952
Based

Angelique Special. The start of the otome game genre popularity. The PC-FX version is the best one, with full voice acting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXgj5uB_X0

>>8125952
favorites of those?

>>8126020
Houkago Nyannyan Club

>>8125952
And people say PC has no good exclusives.

>>8126923
I know this is a joke but most of those if not all of them are also on consoles

>>8126962
eh only 3 of them

>>8125464
>>8125507
https://archive.org/download/ef_Playstation_1_Asia_Collection/PS%201%20Asia/Prismaticallization%20%28Japan%29.zip

>>8126996
Utawareromono - PSP
School Days - Playstation
Air - Practically everything
Maple Colors - PS2

Uhh that's all I recognize I think

>>8127012
oh shit Maple Colors is on console, didn't remember that one

>>8126997
I bow to your skills

>>8119386
>>8119838
>>8121813
I haven't played Tokimeki Memorial yet but IIRC you're supposed to round-robin the girls

>>8128635
you can hang out with your preferred girl almost exclusively but every 2 months or so you should go out on "pity dates" with the others to avoid getting bombed. Also the more they like you the more often you have to hang out with them to avoid a bomb.

>>8121463
当然ね。

TokiMemo online character popularity survey from 1999. Rate people's taste, anons.

http://www.big.or.jp/~tokimeki/an/c.htm

>Mira the least favorite.
>Yuina that low.

H-How is that even possible?

>>8130919
>Yumi that low
Well-deserved

>>8130919
One of the best girls, she didn't deserve it.

>>8130941
>Implying your friend's little sister is not likable in all circumstances.

How are the ports of the first Sakura Taisen? I know it's probably best to play the original, but how about the Dreamcast or PS2 versions?

any good English translated ones? :(

>>8131446
Never played the original.
But the PS2 version has 3D graphics for the battles and there's something different about the turn-based system, but I forget what. You can read the Wikipedia article.

>>8130962
She just waltzes in in the second year, then loves you, then bombs you

>>8119092
...How long have you been playing these games? Also, I know nothing about Sentimental Graffiti except that some artist continues to make doujins of it even nowadays.

>>8131882
>then bombs you
Not if you care about her like she deserves.

Real specific question for Mitsumete Knight here.
Are there any CGs for Teddy you need to be tutoring Sarah for? I'm in the second year already.

>sentimental shooting
lol wut

>>8131474
lol EOP

>>8130919
Mira is essentially the secret character, as you have to raise your appearance to aberrant levels to get her to even appear. I wouldn't be surprised if many players have never even seen her in the game.

Miharu Tatebayashi is #1 because she's the meme character and possibly because you get her if you do just kind of middling in the game, so she's a common result. If you make an online poll and include a joke answer, people will choose that so they can feel """""funny."""""

Shiori is next for obvious reasons. The rest are just expected variance in small sample sizes.

>>8130919
Only saw footages of the game but I thought she was cute and today I found she's the highest ranking here
Guess I'll check some of the games out

>>8125343
PS1 jap cases formats are all over the place
You got the thick boxes similar to the PAL ones but with sturdier black plastic, another type of thick boxes for 2 CDs games, regular 1 and 4 CD cases but some with black plastic for the inner part and some with transparent, and also quite a few unconventional releases using digipak cases. Not to mention collector stuff like the Square Millenium series

Any with lolis and english?

>>8133564
Sister Princess is probably the closest retro thing...
>English
lol

>>8133564
There's a 13-year-old in Houkago Ren'ai Club if that's loli enough for you
The 21st century re-release for Windows called "Casual Romance Club" has an English option
Of course they deleted the ages from the character profiles in that version.
Pic related is the Saturn version manual.
Fun fact: The original sex graphics from the PC-98 version are actually present on the Saturn disc, in Saturn resolution (640x200 anamorphic); they just aren't used in the game, Saturn version stops at showing underwear.

>>8133814
chest too big kek

>>8122784
Actually, after seeing the info released since I last read about this game, it seems those two characters will be just supporting characters for gameplay mechanics. It's a bummer although I'll probably buy it anyway since it's literally the only classical-style dating sim released since 2010

>>8130889

Where can I find more dating/ life sims

Anyone here play Fire Woman Matoigumi?

>>8135612
Man, I started that like two decades ago and then never got back to it. It seems pretty interesting and has a great voice cast.

>>8132103
I played them in the late 90s. Doujins have been great, I had >>8132345 on my computer then too. Which was a shooting game, where you can shoot the clothes off the girls of the game.

>>8125647
Well, the only difference was the mousepad in those boxes. There was A-type and B-type, the reprint is just A-type but with a sharper printing process which looks better. The PC version came with a nice pen inside a wooden box.

>>8137594
I find it kinda surprising that they added mousepads and even mice to these games' console versions. I mean, yeah, visual novels and stuff are more often associated with PCs, but I always felt that playing them using a gamepad is comfier than with a mouse. Pressing A on a controller all the time is a lot more comfortable than having your hands on a desk and clicking a mouse button. That's also what discourages me from playing a lot of VNs, not to mention that it's much easier for me to commit to playing on a console than on PC.

>>8137594
I'd check out the PC version if it didn't have awful mouse stuttering compared to the Saturn version, and if it didn't have awful DRM that makes reverse engineering the game a pain in the ass. There's the russian release that has a proper crack that doesn't need dinking around with SafeDisc drivers and disabling SecureBoot, but still. Almost finished the fan translation (Currently on Chapter 10).

SEGA should really consider remastering the first four games, with HD art, remastered videos, and uncompressed music/audio, then release them on Steam and modern platforms. I would buy that in an instant, especially if a turbo mode and a hard difficulty mode was added.

>>8137971
SteamInput allows you to bind KB/M inputs to a controller, and even then, most VNs nowadays seem to support controller input through XInput.
>>8139338
To add onto what I was saying, what versions of the PC versions for those games has the least intrusive DRM, outside of say the russian release with a crack.

How common in other games is the reply system from Sakura Taisen with limited time to choose your answer? I've started playing it a while back, but I sometimes find it necessary to pause the game (on an emulator) to check some kanji or whatever.

>>8140892
Idolm@ster does this. Don't remember much else, honestly it's areal dick move.

>>8140892
That system is probably designed to make the player feel like they are actually inside the conversation, so there is a necessity of thinking quickly whatever you'll be saying. But it's a pretty dumb system, anyway. And I don't think it makes the game more immersive than the standard non-limited time system.

>>8140892
Chaos;Head and School Days immediately came to mind, it's under the Timed Choices vndb tag

>>8137971
I am just more used to visual novels on PC. A comfortable PC setup can be achieved as well. Similar to FPS games, I'm just used to them with mouse+keyboard controls as that was what I got used to first, but unlike FPS on console there's not much of an acclimation process to playing visual novels on console as I remember being unable to figure out if I prefer "normal" or "inverted" on the right analog stick.

>>8139338
Does the Russian crack work on the Japanese version? Why is the DRM different between regions?

>>8124887
>i hit 25 before i couldn't stand it anymore
ssheeiiit im about to hit 24 and thinking its time to start learning weebanese. saturn was my boiling point.

>>8142235
Dunno. The Japanese DVD release uses SafeDisc DRM and can't be peaked at using a disassembler.

The Russian version uses an easily crackable version of SecuROM.

Applying that exe to the JP version does boot the game, but it results in broken russian fonts.

I was wondering if the CD releases were any different in terms of DRM. Maybe there's a place that has uploads of those that I can check out?

>>8137971
just get a wireless trackball, or map mouse movement to a pad

>>8126014
Someday I'll turn to otome games