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I just finished building an arcade stick, recommend me some arcade games. Any genre is fine.

>> No.8125081
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GnG
Cuphead
Ironclad
Armored Warriors

>> No.8125093

Alien Vs. Predator

>> No.8125097

>>8125071
Why would you get a stick with that button placement? Start should never be too close to face buttons.

>> No.8125106
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>>8125071
bust-a-move on a stick feels nice

>> No.8125108

What's that case? Some pre-made DIY? I have a SS pad PCB around, would be fun to make a stick.

>> No.8125205

>>8125108
Looks like an 8 arc/Qanba stick.

>> No.8125207

>>8125097
Street Fighter Zero 2

>> No.8125221

>>8125207
How does that game use start any differently?

>> No.8125229

>>8125221
I think Dan Hibiki has a special move where you can spam his taunt with the start button.

>> No.8125389

>>8125097
I have normal hands instead of hams, so it would never be a problem.

>> No.8125392

>>8125108
It's a Qanba RAF Q4 crystal case. I bought the case by itself and built everything.

>> No.8125850
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how moddable is the qanba drone? or should I look for a case like OP?
thinking of making a seimitsu parts one rather than the sanwa I currently have

>> No.8125993

>>8125850
I just googled it and like 20 videos come up. it looks very easy. 6 screws and then you just pop parts in and out like legos as is the case with most sticks.

here's something I found you should keep in mind tho:

The default Qanba stick in the drone uses a Korean style connector, so in order to put in a JLF you need the 5-pin connector to plug into the PCB.

>> No.8126080

>>8125392
Look nice, in Europe Mayflash are the only sticks moddable that are of some quality. I wanted a metal plate like yours but a case like that is costly.

>> No.8126085

The Sailor Moon game is the best. Don't need to bother with any other arcade games after playing that one.

>> No.8126117
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>>8125071
Ah yes, a fellow man of culture I see. I really like the color scheme you got going there. Generally I'm not the biggest fan of displaying artwork on a stick, so I would've probably preferred an all black background. But it does match really well with the crystal case I'll give you that. In any case, it looks much nice than my default panel which I don't really like but like hell am I going to spend any more money on this thing. I already spent waaay to much on it and it doesn't even really show.

What I don't like from my own experience is the feel and sound of those translucent Sanwa buttons. They look great but I can't stand using them. The inserts / plungers on those are constructed very differently from the regular opaque models and they rattle and sound very different as a result. That's why I changed them out pretty much immediately after buying the stick even though the transparents often look nicer. With the rim piece it doesn't make a difference and so I kept them.

I feel that default black dustwasher you got can't really hang with the rest of the piece. Translucent smoke maybe? https://focusattack.com/sanwa-jlf-cd-translucent-smoke-shaft-matching-dustwasher-set/

I'll post some games in a minute though.

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>>8126117
Pic related are all my current MAME titles

Adding to those the following (many might be already on that list and I just noted them down bc I wanted to try them soon):
Alien Storm
Alien Syndrome
Big Run
Black Tiger / Black Dragon (J)
Cyberbots
Dungeons & Dragons - Shadow Over Mystara
Dungeons & Dragons - Tower of Doom
Ghosts and Goblins
Golden Axe The Duel
Growl
Haunted Castle
Kaiser Knuckle
King of Dragons, The
Knights of Valor 2 Plus
Märchen Maze
Mega Man: The Power Battle
Metamoquester
Monster Maulers
Osman
Outfoxies
OutRunners
Pretty Soldier Sailor Moon
Rastan
Rompers
Sliptstream
Smash TV
Snow Bros.
Valkyrie no Densetsu
Violent Storm
Voltage Fighter Gowcaizer
Oriental Legend 2

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And also this:

Get you a stable remap going!
"What's the matter, boy? MAME forgot your buttons again? That sucks!" -"Tired of having to reconfigure your inputs all the time? You're about to lose it and ready to give up? Wait! There's yet hope."

Introducing:
By default MAME instantly resets any button configuration that is being loaded or currently in use if the specified controller is not connected or drops connection while the program is still being executed. Scenarios like this include a wireless controller going into sleep mode, a weak battery giving out during gameplay or a cable pulled too early. But there's a solution: Write your own remap file using a stable controller ID and MAME's devicemap feature today - MAME won't forget your buttons ever again!

How to:
1. Connect your controller of choice.
2. Go to Control Panel > Device Manager > Human Interface Devices > HID Conform Game Controller > Your Controller > Properties > Details > pick Hardware IDs from the drop down menu and note it down.
3. Write a text document like pic related to permanently map your buttons to player 1 using your controller's hardware ID*** (see 2nd post). Save as a cfg-file and name it a single word without any spaces or special characters.
4. Put the new cfg-file into a directory called 'ctrlr' inside your MAME program directory. Create it if it doesn't exist already.
5. Open mame.ini > Under section '# CORE SEARCH PATH OPTIONS' set 'ctrlrpath' to 'ctrlr'. Under section '# CORE INPUT OPTIONS' set 'ctrlr' to the name of your remap cfg-file. Leave out the file extension.
6. Delete 'default.cfg' in the 'cfg' directory of your MAME installation. Your remap is the new default now! This step might not be 100% necessary but it autogenerates a new one anyway if needed.
7. Done

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Rohga: Armor Force

>> No.8126136

>>8126134 continued

Result:
MAME won't ever forget your buttons again. Doesn't matter if your controller loses connection, goes into sleep mode, the battery dies or you pull the cable too early. It's Plug-and-Play now and will be recognized 100% reliably by its hardware ID.

Advice:
If you are using an 8-button arcade stick the layout illustrated below is highly recommended as it is the most suited default across all machines, offering you the NeoGeo 4-button top row and 6-button layout a la Street Fighter at the same time.

1234
4567

Note that none of this prevents you from making further adjustments to input settings on a per game basis from inside the MAME GUI if necessary. MAME creates a config file for every game you boot inside the cfg directory and those have precedence over the default which we have redefined here.

Documentation
https://docs.mamedev.org/advanced/devicemap.html

***DISCLAIMER (see 1st post)
Controller button names and enumeration as well as hardware ID will vary. Figuring them out is up to the user. It is recommended to create a game specific remap including all physical buttons first and using that as reference. It will be located in the cfg directory.

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>>8126134
>>8126136
As a single image

>> No.8126141

>>8125071
>>8126117
Both look pretty sweet, the picture background on the first one works for me due to it looking like the oldschool pixel art.
If I made my own I would have two choices, fake wood panelling like those old hatchbacks, or just cover it with anime girls and rainbow colored buttons just to be as obnoxious as possible.

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>>8125993
I don't see that 5-pin connector for sale over here. Could I get two of these and swap the connector on the end, or is it a different one?

>> No.8128384

>>8126117
Very nice, I like the blue case.

I tried a clear dustwasher, but really hated the look of it. I was thinking of getting purple maybe, but I haven't ordered anything yet.

I agree with the sound/feel of the clear buttons. They are also almost impossible to take out without breaking the tabs. If I were to start again I would go for siemetsu screw ins for sure.

I do like the buttons tho, so I will just leave it as is.

>> No.8128391

>>8126138
Amazing, thank you!

>> No.8128401
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>>8126141
Yeah the lack of good 300dpi high resolution artwork that I would have wanted on my stick is what pushed me towards pixel art.

You can find something you love from an old game, screenshot it with an emulator, then scale it without any filters. This guy is the 1st boss of R-Type, and it's scaled up 10x.

Usually you just print the artwork as-is, but I decided to get it laser etched for a nice custom look.

>> No.8128526

>>8125071
requesting sauce on the case


recs:
blazing star
metal slug 6
darkstalkers
espgaluda
dodonpachi
densetsu saphire
liquid kids
spinmaster
any of the cotton games

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>>8128526
forgot fuckin image omg i am literally a sleep deprived retarded faggot
i cant do anything right
no matter what it is i ruin it everytime

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>>8125081
>armored warriors
first post best post

>> No.8128536

>>8128528
>Snes mini
>Gay looking arcade stick
>Having an arcade stick at all
>Mac keyboard
>Weed sticker on the monitor
lmao you're a massive faggot

>> No.8128547

>>8128536
>>Snes mini
complete retail library
its the japanese one because i wanted rainbow famicom controllers for the hacked wii
>>Gay looking arcade stick
official sega product - sanwa/Seimitsu everything, metal chasis
>>Having an arcade stick at all
why are you in this thread
>>Mac keyboard
royal kludge mx browns
>>Weed sticker on the monitor
covers ugly HP logo &
my old roommate worked at a dispensary so they were free - i dont smoke retard

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any mame experts know why I get this error message when loading a save state twice? It only happens in one game, Soukyugurentai (st-v bios game), and only when I try to load a save state more than once. I can load 1 save state fine, but the second crashes

>> No.8128602

>>8128549
i despise mame
its like retroarch and mame devs are competing for the worst UI ever invented

>> No.8128606

>>8128602
Mame I understand why people despise it but retroarch I do not, shit is simple as fuck

>> No.8128609

>>8128602
>mame ui bad
i remember when everything was command line based, that was annoying, this is better

>> No.8128613

I use my stick for anything that doesn't require analog sticks and in general its been a superior experience to pad. Big recommend.

>> No.8128632

>>8128547
>wahhhh some stranger on the internet was mean so now I need to type out a whole paragraph justifying my shit taste
still a massive faggot, lol

>> No.8128645

>>8128536
>seething about someone owning an arcade stick in an arcade stick thread
cringe retard

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>>8128547
>>8128645
Stick looks fine as well. Now if it had this button layout I could understand the criticism.

>> No.8129034

>>8128632
>>>/reddit/

derails thread
brings absolutely nothing useful to the conversation besides attention seeking sperglord behavior

typical

>> No.8129037

>>8128632
>completely refuted and wrong about literally everything
callhimafaggot.gif

>> No.8129060

>>8128384
FocusAttack sells button plungers separately btw if you dislike the feel that much.

>> No.8129153

>>8129060
do they ship worldwide?

>> No.8129207

I just use the RAP4Kai, personally. I just wish I have more to use it with.

>> No.8129313

>>8129153
They do. But not to Mexico. *sshhh* They also totally lied to customs of their own volition about the value of the shipped goods that I ordered so I wouldn't have to pay import duty, which I very much appreciated since otherwise I would've had to drive a long way through the city to pick up some plungers, buttons, 2 tiny springs and an actuator gate - basically a bunch of worthless plastic really.

>>8128384
>They are also almost impossible to take out without breaking the tabs.
I think I remember it being a little finicky but I didn't have a huge problem switching them out. Certainly didn't break anything. Maybe this is for you:
https://focusattack.com/buttercade-snap-out-tool-for-pushbuttons-30mm/
https://focusattack.com/buttercade-snap-out-tool-for-pushbuttons-24mm/

Little pricey though if you ask me...

>> No.8129825

Anyone got experience with Seimitsu sticks and buttons?
What arcade machines used them, as when I was visiting Japan, the arcade machines I tried out all seemed to be Sanwa.

>> No.8130004

>>8129153
If you need something closer to Europe then ArcadeWorldUK.com is reputable alternative to FocusAttack.

>> No.8130023

>>8129825
>What arcade machines used them, as when I was visiting Japan, the arcade machines I tried out all seemed to be Sanwa.

SNK MVS U1/33
SNK MVS-U2/33
SNK MVS-U4/33
Puzzle! Mushihimetama

>Pretty much all SEGA machines from the Astro City onwards use the same size control panel plate and are interchangeable (Eg Blast, Net, VS City). Konami Windy panels are also the same size. Taito Egret 2, 3 and Atomiswave SD panels are interchangeable as well. A SEGA panel will fit one of these Taito machines, albeit with gaps, whereas a Taito panel won’t fit a SEGA machine.

>The two biggest manufacturers of arcade controls in Japan are Sanwa Denshi and Seimitsu. Most of their joystick models will fit most of the above control panels provided you have the correct mounting plate. Newer machines are wired with a 5 pin connector for joysticks, older models have individual spade connectors for each microswitch. Bear this in mind when purchasing new joysticks.

https://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/Main_Page

>> No.8130226

>>8128526
Qanba Q4 RAF Crystal. Not really sure they're available to buy any more.

Thanks for the recommendations

>> No.8130238

>>8129060
That's actually a good idea thanks.. keep the outers transparent and get solid centers.

Thanks

>> No.8131201

>>8130238
Yeah dude, that's what I did >>8126117 I just couldn't get used to the sound. Hammering out combos on Sanwa buttons just has this distinct sound to it that's engrained into my brain. I was very disappointed when I got the stick and the sound was very off. Bought some opaque plungers and that fixed it.

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>>8125071
>Qanba Q4 RAF Crystal
hows this?
i need a retroboard and various adapters for /vr/ systems

i wanted a one size fits all
is this cringe choice?

>> No.8132508

is there any case that easily suits a Brook? Or ones that have a good pcb?
Does PS4 compatibility come with a tax?

>> No.8132667

>>8132379
I own an old Qanba stick and its the best stick I've ever owned. That crystal stick looks fine, just buy a few replacement buttons with it as they do eventually break.

>> No.8132684

>>8132379
Look up what parts they put inside. Not all Qanba sticks are fully equipped with Sanwa or Seimitsu components though that mostly concerns the buttons and not the joysticks themselves I believe. That is a much older model at this point so try to find some long term reviews on it if you can. Qanba hasn't always had the best reputation but they stepped their game up at some point.

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>>8132684
That crystal one looks a lot like my old q4raf. If its got the same parts its worth purchasing.

>> No.8132701

>>8132684
Q4raf sticks are excellent sticks. If that crystal has the same parts its worth purchasing.

>> No.8132749

>>8125071
Violent Storm
Dodonpachi
Money Puzzle Exchanger

>> No.8132761

>>8132701
The Q4RAF is indeed great. I own one >>8126117 The thing is, while the Q2 Crystal isn't as old as I initially thought it was (it likely came out after the Q4RAF in fact) and merely looks a lot like some of Qanba's older models, it has neither Sanwa nor Seimitsu parts inside. None. At all. Neither the buttons nor the joystick are made by either of those companies. And that is a dealbreaker. It is THE dealbreaker. Absolutely don't buy that stick. Like I said, not all Qanba sticks have good parts in them. That one has no good parts in it.

The only exception here would be if I value for money was of no concern to you at all because you were going to mod it anyway. But then I personally find modding mainstream sticks with such recognizable familiar looking cases to be unsatisfying. I'd rather get custom case instead.

>> No.8132770

>>8132379
see
>>8132761

>> No.8132776

>>8132761
thanks anon

its $100 bidding war
ill let it go

probably would have checked the buttons on desktop pc first though

>> No.8133736

>>8125071
Gals Panic

>> No.8135396

>>8132379
Looks great, I like those crystals.

>> No.8137450

Any recommendations for a fight stick that works with Nintendo Switch, PC (fighting games and emulators) and is decent quality? I don't play a lot of fighting games but I do have some for SNES, Switch and PC that I would like to use a stick for. I don't mind spending 50-250$ (CDN) and if it's on Amazon and it's customizable at all (backgrounds) that's a bonus.

>> No.8137467

>>8137450
Hori make a Switch version of their RAP4 which should be in budget. Otherwise there's Brook Universal PCB custom builds, or Mayflash with a stick and button swap.

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>>8137467
Here's a couple different ones I was looking at. Do any of these jump out as being good? The most 'pro' fighting game I would play is MeltyBlood on PC and on Switch. The most classic games I would play are Street Fighter 2 SNES on PC and a bunch of shmups for SNES on emulator or possibly Switch SNES emulator.

I guess the biggest thing for me is the joystick itself. I don't like the mushy feeling ones, I like the snappy ones if that makes sense.

>> No.8137690

>>8125071
Where did you get the parts/how do you build one (Amazon, eBay) ? Compatibility (USB, USB-C etc..) ? What systems will you be playing?

1943 on NES is really satisfying with a joystick. Basically any 2d anime fighter from early 2000s on PC is good (melty blood, eternal fighter zero etc....), Shmups on SNES (if you dont mind slowdown) or Genesis. Touhou games are hit and miss with a stick. I suck with a stick but my friend is great at it.

>> No.8137710

>>8137502
the mini one isn't that good, but the full size hayabusa one should ge.
that may flash looks expensive for something without the 'good' buttons and stick, so unless it has them you'll be adding another $70 or so for a joystick and button set ot fit in

>> No.8137756

>>8137502
I think those Mini sticks are made for little people. Do you have a growth hormone deficiency or the like? Otherwise I think you're legally not allowed to buy that. Don't buy a small stick.

>> No.8137821

>>8137756
>>8137710
>not the mini

Lol I was seriously considering it as a casual player and maybe to play with a friend. I'm not a serious fighter by any means but it's good to know it sucks.

Looking at some reviews of the Hori Real Arcade Pro with Hayabusa stick and buttons and people complain about the Square Gate. I always assumed the gates would be a circle shape so you can do rotational inputs? Am I understanding this wrong? Octagonal gate sounds like it would make more sense to me.

If I'm gonna spend over 150$ I want it to have premium parts (without splitting hairs) and not feel like I need to add more expensive parts later.

Are these sticks pretty universal to use on other systems and PC? Is there a decent guide I could read instead of wasting your time with basic questions like these? This is all new to me

>> No.8137868

>>8128528
I have the same stick. I modded it to be compatible with all major systems and PC.

>> No.8137902

>>8137821
The stock hayabusa parts are perfectly fine and a square gate is fine for rotational inputs. If rotational inputs are your concern then you probably want to be more focused on spring weight and how tight your stick is. Square gates are pretty much standard on most levers but if you want an octo gate it's a cheap and easy mod. I don't think circular gates are that common because you still want at least some kind of angles for demarcation of directional movement.

>> No.8137954

>>8137821
square gate is pretty much the standard and the same as most Japanese arcade machines if not arcade machines worldwide. It's pretty easy to do the motions on, and you don't actually need to ride the gates to register inputs.
As I understand, the Switch should just work with PC but I haven't used much switch hardware on PC myself. That Hori is Switch and they do a PS4 one and as far as I know they don't work on each other. There are a few (more) universal sticks around, and I think that Mayflash might be one of them.
I also just read that some Mayflash models actually do have Sanwa (one of the proper arcade part makers) parts so if that model does, that might be the better option.

>> No.8138048

>>8137821
Have you ever even used an arcade stick before? If not then I would seriously recommend you to watch some Youtube videos about Sanwa or Seimitsu joystick. And I'm not talking about fightsticks in terms of a complete product like you are shopping for now but the joystick component itself. Search for terms like JLF or LS-32 and then check out some teardown, maintenance or comparison videos to even form an understanding of what it is that you are buying.

A round restrictor gate? Nah, man. While those do exist they are uncommon for a reason. You're not buying a PC flightstick here that has an analog range of motion. Joysticks like these are essentially glorified d-pads. There are 4 microswitches in there much like the ones you find under your main mouse buttons. Just 4. Up, Down, Left, Right. With those you can get 8-way directional input when you hit two switches at once, e.g. down, left or up, right you get the picture.

Now when you move the stick it pivots around a point along the shaft where it sits in a halfspherical socket. But the shaft extends fruth down beyond that point past the socket. That part of the shaft logically moves into the exact opposite direction of where you are moving the top part with you hand on the handle. That lower end down there is what you hit the switches with to activate them and they make clicky noises mouse buttons when you do so. They are actually wired up mirrored. There's a restrictor gate down there to limit your range of motions. Square is standard, there's also octagonal, circle (makes no sense) and actually 2-way as well.

>> No.8138051

>>8137821

>>8138048 continued
When you move the stick you're working against a spring. These can be modded and changed for a higher return-to-center tension, and there is the actuator piece around the bottom of the shaft for more girth. That can also be switched out for a bigger one so the switches activate with range less motion - this makes it easier to hit diagonals (read: 2 switches at once) but a little harder to hit straights because the diagonal "zones" take up more room.

I small stick like the mini you linked generally isn't recommended because it's actually uncomfortable to play with, not necessrily because it's build quality is inferior. You just don't have much space to rest your hands on them and they are lighter. That makes them move on your lap or the table and you don't want that. You want a weighty stick sitting firmly on your lap so that it doesn't move around and you can input clean motions and hit buttons reliably. For this reason, felt on the underside or any other anti-slip precaution implemented by the manufacturer that gives high friction on your pants are a definitive plus.

I don't have any goold links to post anymore. Maybe try the WayBackMachine for BYOAC Wiki (Build Your Own Arcade). That side was godlike for building sticks and cabinets.

>> No.8138084

i hate fighstick newfags so much

>> No.8138091

Is that 8bitdo stick for switch any good?

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>>8138084
don't be rude

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>>8137902
Okay I looked up the thing about the gates and it makes total sense now.

>>8138048
>have you used an arcade stick
For fighting cabinets, yes and they felt fine to me. But the other day I was playing a 'modern' pacman machine and the joystick felt like a stick in a jar of peanut butter with no feel for directions and I got worried that these amazon fightsticks might feel like that. I will look up some videos on the different types of brands and look into it a little more on my own.

The Switch fight stick looks fine to me but some of the ones posted in this thread look crazy good by comparison.

>>8138091
It looks decent and it changes the button designations if it's in PC mode or Switch mode which seems cool. It's also easy to open and swap out parts but I imagine most sticks are like that.

>>8138084
I was totally expecting to get shit on a little more but this was really helpful.

>> No.8139042

>>8138797
>>8138652
I wish I can shit on you but you already got help. fightstick newfags are annoying as fuck though.

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>>8139042
y..y..you too

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>>8137690
I ordered the case from Canadian joysticks, and most of the parts from focus attack.

It uses USB through an IPAC2 board for PC, and an MC Cthulhu board through RJ45 for NES, SNES, Saturn, TG16/PCE Dreamcast, N64, Gamecube, Xbox, PS1, PS2, Atari, Commodore, Master System.

I also put a 6 button Genesis controller in there for 6 button Genesis support.

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>>8125106
also check out "Pop'n Pop", it's like puzzle bobble mixed with space invaders (and chaining like puyo)

>> No.8140109

>>8138797
>but I imagine most sticks are like that.
There are many that are not, though it's much easier now for most. Generally the more expensive ones are easier to mod, but conversely come with good parts straight away.
These days most are easily moddable with a few gotchas (e.g. uses Korean style connector/will fit a JLF but not a stick with larger internal switches like a Seimitsu etc.)

>> No.8140352

>>8125071
Dungeons & Dragons: Tower of Doom
Dungeons & Dragons: Shadow over Mystara

>> No.8140509

>>8126134
I finally got around to setting this up this morning after my inputs were dead again.. This is great, thanks!

>> No.8140514

>>8140352
This^
But replace both with any other Capcom beat em ups, I recommend AvP and Armored warriors

>> No.8140519

Totally new to arcade sticks, had no idea you could even DIY em like that. Is it possible to custom build like you did and get adapters/some way of compatibility with old consoles, like say saturn to ps1 to dreamcast etc?

>> No.8140528

>>8140509
Glad to hear it. I hope it makes your MAME experience that much more enjoyable. Back up that custom remap file by the way so you don't have to do it all over again.

>>8140514
That's funny.

>> No.8140551

>>8140519
You can always hack one together from an old controller you take apart and then solder the buttons and joystick to its PCB. Problems arise when you want compatiblity with multiple platforms from a selfmade stick like that. That's when you're better off with PCBs that are designed for stick building and come with support for multiple platforms. Or you buy an adapter. What the best solution is will depend on what systems you want to play on. Look up the following products for example:

Brook Universal Fighting Board (with Headers) - PS5 add-on PCB now available.
Brook Wingman SD Multi-Console to Sega Dreamcast/Saturn Converter
Brook Super Converter: PS2 to Xbox One Adapter
Brook Super Converter: PS3/PS4 to NeoGeo Adapter
Brook Wingman XB Multi-Console to Xbox One/Xbox 360 Converter
Brook Wingman NS Multi-Console to Nintendo Switch Converter
Brook PS3/PS4/Switch Wireless Fight Board

You get the idea. Brook has got your back. But of course cheaper adapters are out there. No matter what you buy, always look up user reviews. Specifically for input lag testing, connection stability etc.

>> No.8140554

>>8140551
yeah ive seen brook, all those options made my head spin so i just chose to wait to look into all this again for another day. PS1/Ps2/Saturn/Dreamcast/ are what im looking to play.

>> No.8140772

>>8140551
Do those Brook converters introduce input lag? I'm specifically interested in the ps4 to switch

>> No.8140930

>>8140772
I'm not familiar with every single one of these adapters - actually I'm not familiar with any of them. You're going to have to do your own research here. All I know is Brooks Universal Fighting board is one of the fastest PCBs out there but maybe that's not true for every platform it supports either. It's a complex product.

Concerning the Switch dongle, this video makes it look like there's a huge amount of lag when he's using it with a DualSochk 3. It could be the dude's monitor but I doubt it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho8EyGqdWZM

Maybe the Mayflash Magic-NS is better in that regard but I'd probably just get the Brook Universal. That shit has everyone beat afaik. It supports:
>XBOX SERIES X|S, Xbox One, Xbox 360, PS4, PS3, Wii U PC, Switch, NEOGEO mini, PS Classic and MD mini.
>Support play PS4 Games on PS5!
And there's a PS5 add-on now I saw for like 25 bucks or whatever.

>> No.8141024

>>8125071
Out Zone

>> No.8141026

>>8140519
>compatibility with old consoles, like say saturn to ps1 to dreamcast etc?
https://arcadeshock.com/products/brook-retro-board

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>>8141026
thanks, this looks nuts. the cables to go with it arent too expensive either.

>> No.8142337

>>8140519
Mine has that functionality, yes.

There are two options: Brook Retro Board and MC Cthulhu. I went with the Chtulhu because it's much cheaper, and they do the same thing. They support exactly the same list of consoles, despite what the website for Brook will tell you.

>> No.8142473

>>8142337
seems like the mc cthulhu is just barely cheaper than the brook, but ill look into it.

>> No.8143220

>>8142141
Well, if you go all out with that then you're probably looking at a +500 dollar stick overall. You'll need a custom case too, to accomodate all its features. Looks like it would need two ports (1x USB, 1x RJ45) in addition to a start, select and of course the home/guide menu button for the later consoles. If you want that too look nice, that exceeds the number of through-holes found on the sides of most cases out there I'd say. Together with the necessary adapters that's a pretty hefty investment for an arcade stick.

>> No.8143223

>>8143220
SSSHHEEIIIIT i was looking to spend max $150~. I have no interest in recent consoles either, i just want this for my retro needs, being able to use it for PC is a nice bonus.

>> No.8143243

>>8143223
If you get the Retro Board alone it's automatically 100 dollars cheaper because you don't the Universal Fighting Board. That thing is ~100 bucks alone. The Retro itself is like 60. Another 60 for the stick, I dunno about 20 for all the buttons. Get yourself a cheapish case. Maybe even from a broken stick that you mount or hotglue a Neutrik USB port on. And you're in business.

That last step you can even skip and just route the cable directly into the inside. But you won't be able to disconnect it as easily and would have to make sure no strain harms the PCB if you accidentally pull on it or anything like that. You can see it in that picture >>8139371 See how there's a cable going from the PCB to the outer case at the top left and there has been a USB port installed? That's the elegant (and safer) solution.

>> No.8143251

>>8143223
>>8143243
Actually, looking at that picture again >>8139371 I'm not sure what that is tbqh. But it would look pretty much the same no matter what. Maybe the stick owner can enlighten us.

>> No.8143262

>>8143223
A white person typed this.

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>>8143262
>A white person typed this.
what does that even have to do with /vr/?

>>8143243
>>8143251
i honestly dont know what i need, probably should take many steps back and actually learn what goes into a custom fight stick before i make any decisions.

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8143304

>wants to make a custom fightstick
>wants to cheap out
Maybe you shouldn't just build one.

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>>8143304
>wanting to not spend $500 on a single fightstick is cheaping out
well if that's the case then the scene just isn't for me

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Sayonara.

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8143357

Just buy a decent or even a sort of crap stick that has swappable parts. The stick was like thirty bucks and I upgraded the internals for about another fifty

>> No.8143482

>>8143267
the more compatible, the more pricy and more stuff needs to go in it. A good stock stick is straightforward though.
almost everything is PC compatible if that's your main platform

>> No.8143487

>>8143334
A custom stick compatible with just about every major console ever released however. Don't forget that little detail there. Buying separate sticks for less than half of those systems would already well exceed that number.

>> No.8143501

>>8143267
>i honestly dont know what i need, probably should take many steps back and actually learn what goes into a custom fight stick before i make any decisions.
That sounds very reasonable. You go and do that, Anon. First and foremost, make up your mind about what systems you actually want to be able to play on. Kind of important.

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>>8143251
There are two connectors for the outside. One is a neutrik USB for PC support, and the other is a neutrik RJ45 for old console support.

You can't just go without the connector on there outside, as it's soldered directly to the MC Cthulhu board. You make cables for each of the retro consoles you want to play, and they plug into the RJ45 jack. (If you went the brook retro route, you could technically go without the Neutrik RJ45 and plug directly into the board, but you'd have to open up the stick every time you wanted to play a different console.. just pay the $11 and get the Neutrik connector).

There is a guide here along with a really nice PDF version that explains it all: https://forums.shoryuken.com/t/rj-45-multi-console-cthulhu-arcade-stick-tutorial-ver-2/97185

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>>8143563
The cable that's going out of the case on the top left is from the Genesis pad hack. Neither the Brook retro nor the MC Cthulhu support Genesis.

So, I just suck a cheap-ass knockoff Genesis controller in there, soldered to the pads on the PCB, and ran the cable out the back.

If I want to play Genesis, I just pull that short cable out of the side compartment and hook up an extension cable to it.

>> No.8143574

>>8143563
>but you'd have to open up the stick every time you wanted to play a different console
Oh yeah, of course. Now I get it. You need all the different adapters because older consoles don't have USB ports. Sure. Didn't put it together in my head.

>There is a guide here
Wait, what? Were the SRK forums not dead at some point? I remember being bummed about it. Am I making this up? What's going on? Am I dying?

>> No.8143578

yes you are already dead

>> No.8143582

>>8143569
Huh! So that's the cable stored away in the the comparment box on the right, correct? >>8139371 I'm assuming you don't ever need to use that anymore. Could you? Would even work at this point? Thanks for the explanation btw. Really nice build.

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>>8143578
Oh no!

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>>8125071

Track & Field
Combat School

>> No.8143596

>>8143582
The cable stored in the right compartment is for genesis only. It's from my Genesis padhack.

See this post
>>8143569