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DOOM THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD - Last thread: >>8112357

DOOM/II/ULTIMATE/FINAL/64/CHEX/QUAKE/DUKE/HERETIC/HEXEN/ETC
Gameplay, WADs/Maps/Mods, Source Ports
All other 90s FPS welcome
~ Let's post like gentlemen ~

FAQ/PASTEBIN
http://pastebin.com/hzDnLpct
OP PASTE
http://pastebin.com/TWNE3nZZ

SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME FUCKING DOOM
(or Quake, Duke, Marathon, Thief, Deus Ex)
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

Same thing, in video format:
https://youtu.be/ietb4JwaaXA
https://youtu.be/CGj4gXyCzg0

IWADs and more (>6 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
PortaDOOM: https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases
Quake Trilogy (2020-11): https://pastebin.com/Ucb11XhU
Downloads for various /vr/ shooters. (Includes Doom, Quake, Douk, Blood, and more)
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q
https://mega.nz/#F!GtEQTISJ!CCJGyPEEEsZasc1PMXicUA
More /vr/ shooters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ppJLNvQEPfP4FsOCQBak1TMvPUIswCac
Half-Life WON version
https://pastebin.com/4Hva72v7
Doom Shovelware
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Xy-YDWytlEa2CS9rit-PUgcieh4MrGzR
Fileplanet archives
https://www.quaddicted.com/files/mirrors/ftp.planetquake.com/
Doom RPG series
https://mega.nz/#!Y7AjEawA!Ta2RQuOC235v0wQoLtVR7HJoN7bsiawkujSlq8A1Da4
4CHAN DOSPACK + Win98 games (pre-configured):
https://mega.nz/folder/CldGAahb#yn_8LkRHraywPgKJMp5pqA

== INFO/LINKS ==
OFFICIAL DOOM WIKI
http://doomwiki.org/

WHERE TO FIND WADS
Vanilla/Boom: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/4-wads-mods/
ZDoom: http://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=19
/idgames: https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/

TUTORIALS/UTILITIES
https://pastebin.com/7vKYWYp0

RESOURCES
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewforum.php?f=37

== /VR/DOOM COMMUNITY ==

THREAD ARCHIVES
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/text/%22doom%20thread%22/type/op/

MAKING NEW THREADS PROPERLY
https://pastebin.com/8mDnrsrB

IMAGE DATABASE
http://vrdoom.booru.org/?page=post&s=list

OUR WADS
https://pastebin.com/5sKRiJzS

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=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 4.0 https://rentry.org/6hwzi
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfunv4

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8059171
Please use spawnflag 16 for your level exit triggers.

/vr/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT
Info here >>8091348

VRSKINS 4.0
Taking submissions

=== NEWS ===
[9-07] Rainbow Six mod that combines all classic R6 games into one
https://www.moddb.com/mods/rainbow-six-black-ops-20/downloads/rainbow-six-black-ops-20-release

[9-05] Quakespasm 0.94 out, fully supporting DotM
http://quakespasm.sourceforge.net/Quakespasm.html#s5

[9-05] Dread demo released
https://youtu.be/ZxhO1ZCOZ-M

[9-04] Alkaline Jam released
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62095

[9-03] Hedon 2 has been released as an update to the original for those who have it on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1072150/Hedon_Bloodrite/

[9-02] Dege is restoring the ATI TruForm tesselation renderer for DgVoodoo2
https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=83037

[9-02] DBP39: Carnage Oasis is out
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/2271/carnage-oasis

[9-02] vkquake 1.11.0 released
https://github.com/Novum/vkQuake/releases/tag/1.11.0

[9-01] Zero Master releases demo pack, beats every UVMax record for Plutonia
https://youtu.be/oYVlPv5s8Uc

[9-01] Crusadoom, a Crusader inspired mod for Doom
https://www.moddb.com/mods/crusadoom

[8-31] FTE now fully supports DotM
https://quakeone.com/forum/quake-talk/quake-central/283211-quake-enhanced-is-out-now?p=283384#post283384

[8-25] New KMQ2 test build
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4108/new-kmq2-test-version-2021

[8-23] Tastyspleen and jehar to interview Philnemba tomorrow
https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1429935692021477379

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>> No.8121019

>>8120996
Doom 2016 is not meant to be a clone of either of the 2 Classic Doom games, nor of Doom64. Also, it looks like whoever is playing Doom2016 in your Webm seriously sucks at aiming, which is not the game's fault per se.

>> No.8121024

Will the new Powerslave port bring interest in Powerslave mapping? How the hell do you map for it anyway?

>> No.8121034
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does anyone else pronounce GZDoom as cheesy doom in their head?

>> No.8121036

>>8121024
Its in the Kex Engine like Blood Fresh Supply.

>> No.8121038

So what does taking a shit on a sector toilet feel like?

>> No.8121045

>>8121019
Doom 2016 Eternal feel like evolutions of Quake more than Doom. Nobody has the balls to do a modern shooter without vertical aiming.

>> No.8121052

>>8121034
I pronounce it jizzy doom.

>> No.8121056

>>8121019
It reminds me of that time Mark made a video to demonstrate how Brutal Doom is obviously much faster than Doom 4, and it's glaringly obvious that he's trying to play as slow as possible in the footage of the latter.

>> No.8121060

>>8121034
gzdoom and hustlasdoom

>> No.8121069
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Seppuku Station > Hollywood Holocaust > Cradle to Grave

>> No.8121070

>>8121024
It'd be real cool if it did, even if the output isn't much. Are there any fan made mapsets for Powerslave at all?

>> No.8121076

>>8121045
Lack of vertical aiming wasn't a decision in Doom because they thought that would be the best design, it was just thought it wouldn't be necessary for the limited use of verticality in the original levels.

>> No.8121078

>>8120996
nice TAS faggot.

>> No.8121079

>>8121019
the webm is just a reverse to another where someone showed slow footage of e1m1 and put it next to someone jumping around and quickswapping in 2016's first hell level
bait vs bait, really
>>8121045
evolution in the sense that it's different and not a true improvement in every way
the arena combat is partially meant to compensate for the fact that they can't base combat over enemy placement like in most retro fps games

>> No.8121080

>>8121076
Cool. Anyway. Speed and lack of verticality defined Doom regardless.

>> No.8121083

>>8121045
>no vertical aim
Yuck!
>>8121056
I've played brutal doom and doom 2016 however and I find brutal doom v21 harder (good thing) and yes it is possible to play faster than doom 2016.

mouse sensitivity is faster in brutal doom than doom 2016. I have my mouse sens set to max in the latter and like 4 vert/horz 2.5 else on former.

>> No.8121084

>>8121079
Evolution is the wrong wording. I meant more the fact that it feels far more similar to Quake than Doom.

>> No.8121090

>>8121083
i'll also mention i max fov on the latter btw

>> No.8121091

Where's the Halloween Anchor post, dumbass.

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/vr/ HALLOWEEN PROJECT ANCHOR POST. REPLY TO THIS POST WITH ALL HALLOWEEN PROJECT RELATED THINGS. SEE NEWS POST FOR DETAILS

>> No.8121105

>>8121045
That's not a question of balls, that's a question of having a frontal lobe to not restrain yourself to a mechanic that's needless.

The primary reason you can't look up or down in Doom is because Carmack thought the perspective distortion in their software renderer looked like fucking garbage, which with any kind of later renderer is a moot point entirely. Yet still, Doom 2 and Final Doom makes a lot more use of verticality, lack of vertical aiming be damned.
Saying that a Doom game should lack vertical aiming to be true to the originals is kind of like saying that a Wolfenstein game should only use right angle incremental block walls with no height or light variety to be true Wolfenstein 3D, when Return To Castle Wolfenstein was the actual peak of the brand.

>> No.8121106

>>8120995
John Romero has a BIG SMELLY BUM

>> No.8121107
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>> No.8121115

I'm gonna be honest anons, I'm not enjoying Doom 2 anywhere near as much as 1. I'm at the suburbs mission now. The Super Shotgun is fun and the new enemies are cool, but the levels just don't cut it for me.

>> No.8121125

>>8121115
Vanilla Doom 2 is boring as hell, play it with some gameplay mods

>> No.8121126

>>8121125
My autism prevents me, maybe after I finish it.
I just wish I hadn't started it on Ultra violence

>> No.8121128

>>8120996
i like how you only took footage from the first level in doom '16 to make your point. no bias at all.
>>8121045
project warlock has vertical aiming, but it can be disabled (and it's not like you even need it).

>> No.8121134

I really fucking hate doom. I prefer playing it with gameplay mods because I'm too poor to get a computer that can play games on proper 3d engines.

>> No.8121135

>>8121115
The midgame of Doom 2 always felt kinda sucky to me, I think it gets better in the last third of the game.

>> No.8121137

>>8121079
I thought that webm is from the Kotaku or Polygon review or something.
I remember some publication getting shat on because they posted a video of them playing it and it looked just like that.

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>>8121134
you ain't missing much. Honestly Doom mods have provided better FPS content than 98% of the shit out there today and that's been out for the past 6 years.
Doom good, Doom mods good.

>> No.8121169

>>8121115
It's a mixed bag of a mapset, though I think it's worth finishing for perspective alone, and I think it does have some good levels to it.

>> No.8121172

>>8121135
Yeah, the pacing feels awkward in the middle, and it has some weak and mediocre levels stacked closely around there, IMO the best levels are in the first and last third.

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>>8120993

>> No.8121203

>>8121135
>>8121172
my personal least favorite map is map17, but at least it's followed by courtyard which is pretty fun

>> No.8121208

>>8121203
Map 17 isn't a level I'm very fond of, but Map 12 is the one I like the least, it's a Sandy map where Sandy doesn't do anything Sandy.

>> No.8121210

>>8121070
There were 2 maps made for Powerslave in the Realms Deep map jam.

Which is what made me to ask. I didn't know you could map for it. I've never heard of fan maps for it before. What the heck are the tools? Where is the community? I hope the new release expands it.

Unfortunately Ion Fury got fucking fuck all for a community besides like 3 guys making about 15 maps in 2 years.

Turok had a level editor made by Kaiser himself which only spawned about 10 maps in like 5 years.

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>>8121175
What about other kinds of furniture?
Also, does anybody have some Boom fuckery at hand I can make the legs not look so shitty?

>> No.8121216

Imo only way to enjoy vanilla Doom 2 is playing it pistol start. That actually makes ssg feel like an upgrade and makes maps feel way more unique

>> No.8121217

>>8121125
>>8121134
are these posts satire?

>> No.8121225

>>8121210
Are the base game Ion Fury maps good at least?

>> No.8121228

>>8121217
The first one certainly not. Doom 2 IS boring as fuck. Recently replayed Doom 1 and had an absolute blast.
With Doom 2 I get bored no later than Dead Simple. So yeah, Doom 2 only gets enjoyable with gameplay mods. Without gameplay mods, there's no way around pwads.

>> No.8121232

>>8121216
The team didn't design with pistol designing in mind same as having the game run at 35+ fps or higher than 240p.

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>>8121101
You want mound? Too bad, here stone circle, fuk u!

>> No.8121243

>>8121217
Doom 2 is legit boring dude, I can play the first one in one sitting and I start getting bored during E3. I'll take one break and then finish it. Doom 2, I want to take a break after every map after Tricks and Traps

>> No.8121246

How are Doom 64's maps? I'm thinking after I finish 2 and Final Doom to play 64, although maybe that's too much Doom and I should try out Quake instead.
Depends on if 64's maps are better or worse/same as 2.

>> No.8121249

>>8121246
A little Baron-heavy, but not bad.
Don't play it all at once, you'll burn yourself out quickly.

>> No.8121256

>>8121217
Doom 2 can get messy with its level design. That’s part of why Plutonia was a godsend, an official release making good and fun use of D2’s assets.

>> No.8121257

>>8121246
I think they're great.
If you feel at all experience at Doom, I suggest playing on Watch Me Die difficulty, because it'll feel too barren otherwise.

>> No.8121259

>>8121214
Try playing with this.
https://www.doomworld.com/tutorials/fx7.php

>> No.8121271

>>8121237
Le phallus circle stones!

>> No.8121275

>>8121246
64 starts off very slow with its techbase levels, but after that, it gets good, better than Doom 2. Its aesthetics give it more replay value. It's held back by the lack of revenants or archviles though. The remaster has some really good endgame levels in its new episode

>> No.8121280

>>8121228
>>8121243
Huh, Doom 1 is the more boring one for me, but it's probably because it feels too easy except some of Episode 4's levels. Doom 2 feels a bit more challenging even if it has more levels i hate.

>>8121246
It's definitely worth it, I'd say it's one of the best official campaigns next to Plutonia. But as one anon mentioned Doom 64 likes to spam Hell Knights and Baron too much to make up for the lack of challenging enemies like Revenants or Archviles.

>> No.8121287

>>8121246
Oh there is the occasional bullshit puzzle, like a trigger that you activate by staring at a certain wall for a few seconds, so you will need the occaisional walkthrough. It's still good. If you want, just skip to the map Even Simpler, the map after the techbase episode ends, as I think it's the techbase maps with the shitty puzzles.

>> No.8121289

>>8121225
Not that anon but you mean the regular levels?
They are excellent, they curve around and feel amazing to explore and find cards.

Dont give a fuck about making stuff for IF however. Who cares. If I cared enoguh maybe I would change shelly sprite for that ridiculous big tits fit one one and thats it.

>> No.8121292

>>8121275
Is the remaster just the steam port?
And there are no archviles and revenants at all or just few?

>> No.8121304

>>8121292
They aren't in the game at all, there's also no Chaingunners and Masterminds.

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>> No.8121309

>>8121256
>>8121243
Yeah the Doom II maps are all over the place but the core gameplay is fine. I can't imagine slapping on Brutal Doom is going to add much enjoyment, just play better maps.

>> No.8121310

>>8121304
That kinda sucks. I like the Archvile and Revenant a lot. They are some of my favorite enemies.

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>>8121292
None at all. There's also no reload animation for the SSG, the rifle and shotgun zombie look nearly identical, and there's no chaingunners either.
Still fucking great with a solid tone and atmosphere.

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>> No.8121327

>>8121292
They had to sacrifice some of the enemies for the sake of memory and storage constraints, sadly, though they do try to make up for it, the Pain Elemental is roided out to basically be Arch-Vile tier.

>> No.8121329

>>8121324
reminds me of using the money cheat in vtm:b

>> No.8121331

>>8121134
Fuck anon you literally not losing anything. In case you haven't noticed games are dying except for indie stuff.

I bought a new pc some months ago, loaded up control from remedy and rage 2, some other stuff, deleted them after a two weeks, and proceeded to instal emulators, classic games and low to mid budget stuff I was already playing on my potato.


We have digital foundry making videos about serious sam rtx, cards which simply are almost impossible to get.

Crazy times.

>> No.8121338

>>8121324
To be perfectly honest if you toned down the abs a little bit, and made her face more like shelly with more light brown hair she would be great.

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>>8121310
Yeah, but it is what it is. Arch-Vile may not have been easily feasible for the way they went about doing the port, if it's anything at all like the PSX port. The Arch-Vile was cut from that port because he has a LOT of frames, and apparently resurrecting or spawning monsters is a full no-go for that engine.

>> No.8121367

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y9bo3xMuOk

>> No.8121369

I don't know what the fuck to do in Titan manor.

>> No.8121382

>>8121367
I'd like to see them do this to the HD versions, it would look much more appropriate.

>> No.8121383

>>8121382
Yeah, everything looks a bit out of place there.

>> No.8121390

>>8120587
Honestly I'd rather use Doom 64 Retribution, than any of Kaiser's shit tier ports. At least i can change what i want and enjoy the game how i want at 200 FPS
doom 64 ex steam.
You can't change fuckin shit
you have to sit through like five minutes of movies.
the game runs like shit
all of kaisers work is fuckin trash and i'm tired of people pretending it isn't fuck off

>> No.8121393

>>8121367
now talk about serious stuff

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>>8121390
Am I missing anything going through the GEC version of 64?

>> No.8121409

Is there a way to play Nehahra with music using Mark V?

>> No.8121414

>>8120993
I can't get over that flushing that toilet makes hitler appear.

>> No.8121415

>>8121406
idk what that is desu thats a different thread from where i got doom 64 retribution

>> No.8121419

>>8121406
>>8121415
my bad brainlet moment. idk i've never played that version of doom 64. I mean its probably the entire game, idk it wouldn't be. check the doom world thread there and see what they say about it

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>>8121415
>>8121419
It's been fine so far, I just haven't messed with 64 in forever to know the tiny weapon differences, and whether or not the mod is too fast/slow with some of them.
I keep flipflopping between filtered or not as well.

>> No.8121451

>>8121427
i just went to that doom world thread and watched some video of the mod. it seems like doom 64 to me. 64 has just enough differences to normal doom to throw one off.
i played dead simple the other day on watch me die and died like 6 times before i beat it. i was like
>bro i'm really gettin blown out by dead simple
>wtf is this shit
maybe thats what it is. its just been a while to get back into the groove

>> No.8121489 [DELETED] 

I continued to work on my engine until yesterday. I'm not feeling to well after my first jab on Tuesday. I have trouble getting out of bed.

>> No.8121497 [DELETED] 

I continued to work on my engine until yesterday. I'm not feeling too well after my first jab on Tuesday.

>> No.8121505

>>8121497
I guess it gave you alzheimers as well

>> No.8121508

>>8121505
Yeah but at least he doesn't have alzheimers.

>> No.8121509

>>8121505
Maybe he's not having trouble getting out of bed anymore

>> No.8121525

>>8121292
Brutal Doom 64 adds in revenants but its very unbalanced and totally ruins whatever fun might have been had from bd 64.

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>> No.8121545

I continued to work on my engine until yesterday. I'm not feeling too well after my first jab on Tuesday. I have difficulties getitng out of bed.

>> No.8121547

Hey guys, you ever get the feeling of Deja Vu?

>> No.8121550

>>8120995
Doomuniverse opens, a new forum for doom related things
https://doomuniverse.com/
It's described as
>cleaner than Doomer Boards, but with less heavy-handed moderation than Doomworld
I for one embrace change

>> No.8121553

>>8121525
Brutal Doom 64 is also held together with prittstick and bits of twine.

>> No.8121556

>>8121547
the new matrix is gonna be trash.

>> No.8121568

>>8121525
>chainsaw ammo
lol

>> No.8121569

>>8121550
>admin is the person who did the rejected prcp2 map

alright, cool.

>> No.8121570

>>8121550
> no sourceports section

>> No.8121580

>>8121246
lots of switches that open doors on the other side of the map. In the Void is one of the best Doom maps ever though

>> No.8121585

>>8121307
Why did they do it?

>> No.8121590

>>8121569
I think he lurks here. Not sure what else to make of that information though.

>> No.8121602

>>8121585
To be more edgy. Make everything 64 shades of brown or green in the process.

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I made a cursed couch the other day. I think I should make some more cursed furniture.

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>>8121585
>>8121307
>new caco looks like a pain elemental
>new pain elemental looks like a caco
Did they switch these two during development or something? This is weird as fuck.

>> No.8121614

>>8121553
probably but thats not my point at all.

>> No.8121627

>>8121612
The new Pain Elemental design feels deliberate, it looks dramatically different from the original Caco and Meatball, and it has two mouths to spit twice the misery.

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>>8121606
Looks comfy, reminds me of SH2's labyrinth, the daddy rape room.
Here's my non-cursed comfy couch.

>> No.8121632

>>8121553
>>8121614
its just the revenants in BD64. the levels just are not designed for them to be there and the revenants are literally just the chernobog skelly from blood put in there with rockets on its shoulders
the way the rockets move is weird and slow and very hard to avoid. and they're always set to tracking mode.
he'll put 7 or 8 of these guys in a tiny room and you either
>get blown out
or cheese the bfg every encounter. its very very unbalanced how he added them
he shoulda just added the
>brutal shit
and no new monsters
well the spider mastermind addition was good but thats it

>> No.8121634

>>8121612
D64's Pain elemental is unique but ugly as fuck

>> No.8121637

>>8121550
Whoever runs this, could you make the layout a little less soulless and mobile

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>>8121627
>>8121634
That doesn't do much for me to explain why they swapped color palettes, or why the 64 caco now has arms while the pain elemental doesn't.

>> No.8121642

>>8121606
That couch is huge. It's made for Cyberdemons.

>> No.8121652

>>8121550
Am I allowed to criticize Israel on that forum?

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>>8121101
Hey, so we put in a cool chandelier sprite, though it replaces one of the hanging corpse sprites, and I wonder if it would make more sense if we just added it as its own separate decoration? After all, hanging bodies is a pretty spooky thing, so I think we should have them.

Also, I wouldn't mind the Duke style spraying water animations for making fountains and stuff.

>> No.8121658

>>8121612
>fires two extra aggressive lost souls at a time
>trying to bodyblock him from making more results in a free instakill
>looks spooky as fuck when silently floating around in the darkness
I wish they gave the other demons a similar treatment

>> No.8121664

>>8120995
Serious Sam classic games get the (unofficial) ray tracing treatment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y9bo3xMuOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFUwx8zLKfE

https://github.com/sultim-t/Serious-Engine-RT/releases

>> No.8121671

>>8121653
I mean there's already over 9000 different hanging corpses, do you really mind ONE missing?
If anything, we need more chandeliers, and bigger ones, generally more lamps.

>> No.8121675

>>8121632
you forgot the invisible chaingunner and two headed dog meant to be that cut 64 enemy

>> No.8121678

>>8121664
Interesting. Now it looks like the early 2000s renderings I did. What a time to be alive.

>> No.8121680

>>8121653
>I wonder if it would make more sense if we just added it as its own separate decoration
Yes it would. I dunno why we'd replace existing assets when we can create more new things than we could possibly need using dehextra

>> No.8121681

>>8121642
It's kinda hard to make a couch that is made for a brick-shaped man.

>> No.8121684

>>8121664
>>8121367
I'm glad your favorite tuber made a vid on this but its been out for a month now

>> No.8121685

>>8121671
I was thinking that we can throw in a GLDEFS lump later and make the chandeliers have dynamic lights. Also it won't conflict with any possible mods down the line.

>> No.8121703

>>8121664
WOW SHINY
ALSO MIRRORS

trash...

>> No.8121705
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Unused Doom 64 cover art

>> No.8121712

>>8121675
its been a while since i played. but thats right he did add those guys and another zombie with the helmet and rifle weapon.

>> No.8121719

>>8121705
pinky thicc

>> No.8121721

>>8121705
literally 'ps1 doom cover, but on nintendo', so fucking awful

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>>8121664
>for path tracing to work and for light to propagate around the scene, textures need normal maps
DF one again showing his technical prowess...

>> No.8121727

>>8121705
Pretty unfitting for 'Doom 64' but would've been great for as the cover for a port of the original Dooms to the 64.

>> No.8121730

>>8121705
Oh the humanity, that cyberdemon has TWO rocket launchers!

>> No.8121734
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>>8121664
>for path tracing to work and for light to propagate around the scene, textures need normal maps
DF once again showing his technical prowess...

>> No.8121735

>>8121705
Blow it out your ass

>> No.8121737

>>8121705
if they had ever released the original doom on the 64. they shoulda used this cover. i wonder how the original doom woulda ran on n64. how close it woulda been to pc

>> No.8121739

>>8121705
pinkie with human eyes is fucking me up

>> No.8121740

>>8121705
INCREDIBLE SOVL

>> No.8121742

>>8121705
aka the good version aka Duke Nukem 3D

>> No.8121746

>>8121069
Seppuku Station could have been great but they fucked it up, the beta version of the map had a better layout

>> No.8121749

>>8121737
>i wonder how the original doom woulda ran on n64
If Doom 64 can handle 32 maps and more monster types than the original, I'd like to think it would at least work.
"Ultimate Doom but like Doom 64" also sounds like a fun idea.

>> No.8121756

>>8121746
Great for Wang Bang

>> No.8121761
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>play Back to Basics
>reach some secret room that doesn't count as a secret for some reason with the picture of some dude with a microphone
>leave, utterly confused

>> No.8121763

>>8121756
Even for that the beta layout of the map would have been better with the floors interconnection with the room over room

>> No.8121765

>>8121763
k *shrug*

>> No.8121768

>>8121749
i bet they coulda basically did the entire game of doom 1 or doom 2 probably besides the icon of sin idk though how n64 programing works. so i can't say that for sure.
but if the 64 can pull off duke using a form of build specific to the 64. i bet they coulda did the originals pretty well.
i'm gonna say doom 1 probably better than doom 2. cause honestly i don't think the n64 is pulling of the chasm at all lmao

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>>8121746
I have to dock a point simply because of this asshole and thinking it was a good idea.

>> No.8121779

>>8121664
Still lacks many features, but could be promising in the future

>> No.8121783
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>>8120893
>>8120886
>>8120846
What's the difference between Doom and Redneck Rampage? One has infighting, other has inbreeding.

>> No.8121784

>>8121768
Doom 1 would work for sure, Doom 2 on the 64 would need something done to the archvile because >>8121364 explains how he wouldn't work 1:1 to what he is on PC.

>> No.8121791
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>>8121761
finnish memes

>> No.8121798

>>8121784
ahh that makes sense then. with the archvilles and memory issues. it woulda been a cool idea though ultimate doom in doom 64 style
honestly if one was a
>console pleb
as people say and owned a n64. that console really did have FPS on lock if thats all they had
>duke 3d
>doom 64
>both quake games
>goldeneye
>perfect dark
the list just keeps going

>> No.8121809

>>8121791
Eh, I thought so. Mind to explain? Apart from spurdo, Spede and what came over from ylilauta to KC ten years I barely know anything about finnish memes.

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>> No.8121825

>>8121809
i don't know either, i just looked up that wad maker's email ends on .fi, and the wad is from 2007 so the meme is super obscure

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>>8121783
Hot damn!

>> No.8121831

>>8121550
I could definitely see myself using this if you add an off-topic sub-forum and a more broad editing sub-forum (for both resources and help)

>> No.8121837

>>8121825
Dude, it's by fucking ESPI, how do you not know it and how did you not know he was finnish?
But now I am confused, are you finnish? And why is a meme from 2007 supposed to be obscure? 2007 still saw some of the great, classic memes.

>> No.8121843

>>8121069
Seppuku Station is pretty awesome but I have to rank it last because it doesnt have all the skips and shortcuts like Cradle To Grave.

>> No.8121847

>>8121324
VOIDPOINT... HIRE THIS MAN!

>> No.8121851

>>8121069
All great maps and you can drive people to absolute frustration and even to the verge of crying if you know your ways around them during MP. I have some vivid LAN party memories of that.

>> No.8121870

>>8121827
I though RR was crap game, but this looks fun as fuck.

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>>8121843
>Cradle to Grave
When you enter the main building, some of the cultists are placed facing away from you so they don't immediately shoot and give you some time to react. This is hilarious because it means this whole time, the game has had an easy solution to this "instant 'scanning" meme - and yet the first episode is filled with deathsquads aimed at entrances. It also doesn't help how they made higher difficulties improve their accuracy, as well as pumping up their numbers.
If someone cared enough, I guess they could have "fixed"/changed this as early as the game coming out: One of the first things I remember reading about mapedit is extracting and then editing the original levels.

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>>8121870
I'd go straight to Rides Again and skip the original, unless you really want to see how they designed the environments. It still has some weird choices with level design but not like the first Redneck Rampage.

>> No.8121884

I am really glad the 4k size limit for the Halloween maps was scrapped. I don't think I could have realized the concept I am going for.

>> No.8121910

>>8121870
gg

>> No.8121926

>>8121069
Seppuku Station is just so fun to secret hunt in. It's not all just wall humping, but swimming, jumping through and into windows.
It's just fun to explore and getting the master key early so you can just open up the entire trainstation makes it easier.

>> No.8121949

>>8121870
I understand that the expansions fix a lot of the flaws.

>> No.8122010

>>8121871
I still can't figure out how Blood's enemies came out the way they did. Cultists are pure evil while the rest of the bestiary is mostly harmless melee.

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>>8122010
It depends on what difficulty they expected most people to start on. Even with Lightly Broiled they go from "pure evil" to "what are you smoking" pretty quickly as you can see here, the previous two difficulties make their accuracy even more embarrassing.

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I'm streaming HDest Shores of Hell saveless. Come on by if you want.

>> No.8122107
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newfag here, I recently got into doom and remembered this board existed and I'm impressed with its current state..everyone actually talks about the games like they were released yesterday unlike in the other boards >vg were people become jaded after a few weeks and just post politics or coomer shit.

just wanted to say you faggots are amazing, never change please

>> No.8122191

>>8121324
Unironically good

>> No.8122194

>>8122107
Vr much like vrpg and vst were a god send, now you can actually talk about games and let /v/ and vg descend into hell.

God I hare really fun Thief threads here and Homeworld threads on vst.

>> No.8122202

>>8122102
cool good luck

>> No.8122301

>>8122107
>y unlike in the other boards >vg
I follow 3 different vg threads just as niche as retro fps general and that's bullshit.

>> No.8122341

>>8122301
It was wya worse before weeb shit was kicked off.

>> No.8122369

>>8121734
I feel like the ogre just likes saying "normal maps" without any cohesive reason to.

>> No.8122373

>>8121427
If you could somehow keep the sky filtered but the level itself unfiltered i think that'd look nice

>> No.8122375

>>8121532
>police wads
SWAT Doom when

>> No.8122376

>>8121671
we need a chandelier store map

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I've recently gotten into watching decino videos on YouTube. I always get a kick out of him saying cyber demon. Chybah deemon.
Haven't played doom since the 90's, I am impressed how big of a community it still has.

>> No.8122396

>>8121310
It has more monsters then D1 but less then D2 but uses them well and the added campaign Lost Levels uses them very well, give it a shot.

>> No.8122402

>>8121427
Definitely made with filtering in mind. Those sky pixels are too massive.

>> No.8122415

>>8122373
This is what I want, as I prefer the unfiltered look everywhere else. That invuln orb on the bottom is really doing it for me.

>> No.8122429

>>8122386
You should get back to playing. It's so easy to set up. Just downloading gzdoom and then dragging and dropping whatever wads or mods you want

>> No.8122462

>>8122429
I just may. Seems it will run fine on my older computer.
I think I still have the floppies for Doom 1 in storage. Wonder if they still work or if they are worth anything?

>> No.8122485

Decided to give the first few levels of HFFM a run with D4V, and holy fuck is bearhouse a hot start. I played through the stock levels about a year ago and didn't notice too much of a difficulty shift there, but dealing with mancs and summoners in close quarters here is a nightmare.

>> No.8122489

>>8122485
>holy fuck is bearhouse a hot start.
You ain't seen nothin' yet.

>> No.8122495

>>8122489
I'm glad I put piss easy so early in the map progression. It's an easy breather level to not discourage the player for what's ahead.

>> No.8122509

Just finished Master Levels and I think Black tower and Titan Manor were the worst fucking maps of the set. Loved Paradox and Mephisto tho.

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Lovely donut here btw

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>> No.8122580

>>8121327
I wonder if they could have ditched the hell knight (or baron) to make enough room for the revenant

>> No.8122593

>>8122375
From The Files Of /doom/ Squad

>> No.8122603

>>8121427
>>8122402
I guess one solution is to take the moving sky textures and then upscale them 2x or 4x? They're smooth clouds so there wouldn't be any definition lost.

>>8122485
Prepare your anus.

>> No.8122605

>>8121105
quite possibly the most based and RTCWpilled reply in here, nowadays

>> No.8122606

Do you think BUILD could have competed with Quake if they kept improving on it? For example no sprites, all voxel objects, higher res textures, improved lighting, new sector effects, more stacked floors, etc.?

>> No.8122608

>Decino doesnt know to slowly back away while chainsawing
>he thinks the chainsaw is bad because pinkies bite him

Well that makes me feel proud. Better than Decino at something.

>> No.8122613

it takes more skill to mouse look and vertical aim

plus its faster

>> No.8122615

>>8122606
yeah a good game is still a good game. but they coulda probably did some really crazy stuff with build if they wanted.
cause the craze back then really did seem to be
>lets jump to the latest and greatest engine

>> No.8122619

>>8122107
That's because the people who find their way here usually love Doom more than they care about new videogames or 4chan drama shit

>> No.8122624

>>8122606
Probably not, the majority of players back then were obsessed with whatever new shiny graphics engine came out.

>> No.8122625
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>>8121101
this new palette makes everything look pretty funky, what do you guys think?

>> No.8122626

>>8122606
No, I love the games but the Build engine was a mess and back then engines and GPUs were improving rapidly not to mention around 1998 people were slamming any and every 2d game.

SiN proved you could make a Build style game in 3d but sadly Half Life overshadowed it.

>> No.8122639

>>8122606
No, because it's still BUILD and adding even more things to that engine spaghetti would have been foolish. Besides, the craze at the time was having everything be polygons, if it was 2D it would get trashed even if it was a good game.
Though the guys at 3DR were definitely trying to go down that route of having everything be voxels, evidenced by the surfaced screenshots and files in beta builds of SW.

>> No.8122640

>>8122626
>>8122624
>>8122615

What can you do in early polygon engines that couldn't be replicated in BUILD, using 3d floors and voxel objects? It would just take more work. If you look at some of the high detail maps the community puts out, it makes me think it could've hung on longer than it did if they busted their asses to make it look as good as its competitors. Imo all it needed was higher res textures, a proper lighting engine, all voxel objects instead of sprites and a lot of stacked sectors to recreate proper 3D level design like Quake and Unreal had.

>> No.8122642

>>8122625
What'd you change on it?

>> No.8122646

>>8122625
>Skelebro in jail

Free my man, he innocent

>> No.8122652

>>8122512
I realize that we missed a fantastic opportunity to build one or more sector goatse in HFFM.
Perhaps that's one of those things we'll get around to if we ever get around to doing that expansion pack one day.

>> No.8122653

>>8122625
i like it

>> No.8122669

We should do Chillax for Sunday Night Shitshow.

>> No.8122670

>>8122669
Sure thing, the queue was empty anyway.

>> No.8122671

>>8122669
prob should do that with dakka

>> No.8122672

>>8122642
didn't change anything, just has a weird green hue.

>>8122653
yeah, it's not too bad, but I think the green hue is a little funky, that's all

>> No.8122678

>>8122646
he committed one too many boners

>> No.8122686

>>8122640
it's pretty sad that voxels never really took off since i think they look miles better than the 3d models we had until very recently.

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>>8122678

>> No.8122710
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Doing a quick poll for my own research purposes. What is your favourite level (or levels) from each of the following games:
Doom
Doom 2
Quake
Duke Nukem 3D
Blood
Shadow Warrior
?
You can skip the ones you haven't played.

>> No.8122719

>>8122710
E1M1
Dead Simple
E3M4: Satan's Dark Delight
E2L6: Tiberius Station
The train level
Water Torture

>> No.8122724

>>8122710
>Command Center
>Haven't finished Doom 2 or Quake
>Babe Land
>Haven't finished
>Don't know the level names but the 2nd level

>> No.8122726
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>>8122710
Perfect Hatred
Refueling Base
Azure Agony
Too hard
Spare Parts
The one in the ship

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>>8122710
Doom - E2M2, E2M4, and E2M8 have stuck with me forever
Doom 2 - MAP32, MAP07, MAP08, MAP10, MAP05, and MAP04 come to mind for me. A lot of those are saved just by the music alone.
Quake - The first level of every episode was pretty cool cause of the music.
Blood - The Carnival, Boat, Train, First Level, Cave Level, and Hellhound boss are obvious favorites.

>> No.8122761

How do I get Quake Enhanced to play and feel exactly like Quakespasm? Everything feels kind of off

>> No.8122764

>>8122710
i don't remember level names

doom - that big confusing one in episode 2 with all the crates
doom 2 - the plutonia slaughter secret map
quake - dissolution of eternity in its entirety
duke - the starting level because i have never played anything past it because i only had the shareware version as a babby
blood - plasma pak in its entirety
shadow warrior - the one with the least obtuse key/switch hunts

;)

>> No.8122770

>>8122710
Doom e2m6
Doom 2 The Inmost Dens
Haven't played Quake
DN3D Dark Side
Blood- The Overlooked Hotel
SW - Water Torture
You didn't ask but for RR it's Uranium Mines

>> No.8122793

>>8122710
>Doom
Phobos Lab
>Doom 2
The Crusher
>Quake
That castle one early in the game, can't remember because I haven't played Quake since the 90s
>Duke Nukem 3D
Hollywood Holocaust
>Blood
The Overlooked Hotel
>Marathon
The Rose
>Marathon 2
6000 Feet Under
>Marathon Infinity
Eat the Path

>> No.8122798

>>8122710
E2M5: Command Center
MAP29: The Living End
E1M8: Ziggurat Vertigo
E4L9: Derelict
E1L4: Dark Carnival
E1L1: Seppuku Station, sue me

>> No.8122830

I hate when devs add items in deathmatch only areas but forgot to remove them in singleplayer/coop like tnt map 15 or plutonia map 30.
Any other examples?.

>> No.8122832

>>8122710
Doom: E1M2
Doom 2: The Gantlet
Douk: Death Row

>> No.8122860
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Fire!
H-H-huh-Hu-(help)-Huh-H-H-h-hH-ha-hah-hAAOOOWooaaahaaaa

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Powerful

>> No.8122885

Has anyone made more maps than 40oz? He averages like three per month.

>> No.8122889

>>8122873
Gotta do the straferun now, boy.

>> No.8122890

>>8122608
I don't back away, I just ever so slowly pull the chainsaw to the left and I never get bit

>> No.8122893

>>8122889
Or use tnt31.wad
Or Id Anthology wad
Or PSN wad
Or the wad from the Unity port
Or just use ZDoom/GZDoom with the original since it fixes all problems

>> No.8122929

>>8121719
I think that's supposed to be a baron.

>> No.8122932

>>8122893
holding forward and strafe seems a lot quicker

>> No.8122953

anyone got any good wads/maps that are nice and slow, tyson style or with good ammo scarcity that have some good use of environments and lights? i'm in a spoopy, slowburner mood

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>> No.8123005

Why the fuck is GZDoom is so gucking bloated? I should be able to run doom on core2duo with no problems.
>>8122386
You probably want to install GZLauncher to easily mix and match wads and source ports. You probably should play with prboom+ unless some mod requiers gz specific features.

>> No.8123010

I really don't care for Doom, but I kind of want to map for it just to see how a map from someone who doesn't like Doom and never played much of it would turn out.
99% says it's gonna be shit, but who knows.

>> No.8123014

>>8123005
If you don't want to use mods, you should probably play on PrBoom+ or Crispy Doom.

>> No.8123023

>>8122608
he does back away, watch his Going Down map 3 walkthrough

>> No.8123025

>>8123005
graf probably doesn't care much about optimization at this point

>> No.8123032

>>8122608
Pinkies mostly bite through on fast, but generally chainsaw is less effective than berserk unless you fight a single monster.

>> No.8123037

>>8123023
I was just watching Doom But Something's Not Right E3 and he gets bit while standing still and complains that the chainsaw isnt reliable, maybe he learned since then

>> No.8123041

>>8123014
And if you DO want to use mods, try LZDoom

>> No.8123073
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basically I've just been playing brutal doom v21 recently

but should I just hop into project brutality?
https://youtu.be/P69yb00MfRo
2bh Im just trying to get a feel for the game right now and like become proficient and 2 be honest project brutality looks so complicated

also how hard is the master levels dlc and is sigil cannon? is there a website that'll show me all the secrets for that mega wad?

>> No.8123076

>>8122625
Looks nice. Do you also hate that we can't have bigger doors? It's either the tiny 64 wide or one of the huge 128 doors.

>> No.8123079

>>8123010
I mean will you go in blind or will you research something like Romero's rules first?
Because even someone who loves Doom and has played tons of wads will most likely make a shit map the first time round. It's a skill to develop like other skills.

>> No.8123082

>>8123010
Do you have much experience with Doom, or did you just not care for it when you tried it?

>> No.8123089

>>8123010
It probably won't be good, yeah. There are a lot of design elements you take for granted when playing Doom and you only appreciate them when they're gone.

>> No.8123093

>>8123010
Responses to this are retarded, if someone that doesn't like Doom were to map for Doom they wouldn't make it a Doom style map. It would be more like The Revenant Problem or that tower defense mod

>> No.8123095

Decided to play throught the Build trinity for the first time ever. Started with Duke3d and I've been playing on Come Get Some with no quicksaves which has been pretty tough sometimes. I've heard that both Shadow Warrior and Blood are quite a bit harder; if I wanted to save the hardest game for last, should I play SW or Blood next?

>> No.8123102

>>8123095
SW has enemies that one shot you but if you have good reflexes and get used to backing up and reacting asap after you open a door it is not a hard game. If you can't do that however it's harder than Blood

>> No.8123104

>>8123073
project brutality is really fun and adds new challenges to the game. It stops being doom but it becomes something better. Just play on the hardest skill with their hud UI mod and it's great.

>> No.8123112

>>8123005
>>8123025
they added a new renderer to a version thats suppose to replace LZ Doom. Called GZDoom Gles. It still has the other renderers as well.

https://github.com/drdteam/gzdoom-gles

>> No.8123115

>>8122885
There's this guy called OBLIGE, he makes so many maps, he can push out a megawad in a day.

>> No.8123116

>>8122710
Mt. Erebus
Tricks and Traps, The Crusher, The Pit, Suburbs
Castle of the Damned, The Nameless City
Incubator (E2L2)
The Siege (E3M2), Breeding Grounds (E4M2)
Dark Woods of the Serpent, Bath House

>> No.8123118

>>8123005
>>8123014
>>8123041
didn't ask

>> No.8123136
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>>8123079
I would definitely look into general guidelines including that.
>>8123082
I did beat both Dooms a few times but nothing really stuck in my mind after I was done, did it just to broaden my vidya views. I enjoyed HDest for its radical departure from the formula, for what it's worth. I'd say Doom is a game I can respect but not love, if that makes sense.
>>8123089
I mean like a more long term thing. First try in anything is always just practice, of course.
>>8123093
Ehh, I would still try to make it Doom, but kind of like David Byrne made the song The Overload, making a Joy Division-like song only hearing about JD and never listening to it (key word "kinda", my first reply already contradicts this). It's a fun experiment if nothing else. That, and I'm no Byrne. Could and probably will turn out blander than your average myhouse.wad

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for better or worse, i am now a part of you

>> No.8123139

>>8123137
You're doing a pacifist run, right?

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>>8121324

>> No.8123156

>>8123137
>Benelli M4
Pff, they wish, their guns were nig tier as fuck.

>> No.8123158

>>8123137
I'm more offended at that ugly ass sprite.

>> No.8123159

>>8121101
I want to make the Chaingun more fun, can we make it shoot a tiny bit faster? Just a little bit?

>> No.8123163

>>8121101
Keep the chaingun as-is.
Make swapping to and from the pistol faster.

>> No.8123175

>>8123158
Where's your entry in the history books? Oh right, you are a nobody.

>> No.8123181

>>8123175
I'm just a peckerhead that's spent too much time on his own mods. I can safely say that gun is awful.

>> No.8123190

>>8123181
didn't ask
don't care
plus you're not a mass shooter

>> No.8123191

>>8123112
I'l check it out.

>> No.8123193

>>8123190
you still can't draw.

>> No.8123196

>>8123193
I'm doing this for 20 years. Also drawing is for fags. Cools kids do 3D modeling.

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>>8123175
here's my entry
*whips out dick*
suck on my knob bitch

>> No.8123213

>>8122710
Mt Erebus
O of Destruction
a tossup between Grisly Grotto and Ogre Citadel
the one where you escape prison
Overlooked Hotel
didn't play

>> No.8123215

>>8123206
>shits out Daikatana
credentials retracted

>> No.8123229
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>> No.8123232

>>8123229
I like the silhuoette of the impaled body on the cliff.
By chance, did you took inspiration from the Halloween DBP? The building looks weirdly familiar.

>> No.8123234

>>8123229
Look out, there's a rocket flying at you!

>> No.8123239

>>8123229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNMIlubmwOQ

>> No.8123240

>>8123232
No, Morbid Autumn, actually. So much so that I consider this a sequel to MAP04 of that wad.

>> No.8123250

>>8123175
>one of a dozen low skill, low effort le Columbine mods for Doom
Surely this will mark the pages of history!

>> No.8123256

>>8123250
No, but Columbine did. :^)

>> No.8123259

>>8123240
Well fuck, that's what I meant. But I thought that was a hallowwen project. ffs I have so many mandelas recently I am starting to question my sanity. Or maybe the matrix is going under heavy renovation.

>> No.8123273

>>8123256
Then what are you waiting for, do another one (in minecraft) :^)

>> No.8123276

>>8123273
You'd have to. In-person schools are a thing of the past.

>> No.8123283

>>8121203
Whats so bad about map17?

>> No.8123284

I honestly expected better of the retro shooter thread than juvenile edge of the yesteryear. Do you not have anything better to do?

>> No.8123289

>>8123284
Nibba I think you're lost

>> No.8123293

By the way, what happened to GOOME anon?
Are you still alive? Did you get drone'd?

>> No.8123305

For first time I'm gonna play Shadow Warrior, Blood and Powerslave. Also the Blood expansions. Question is, should I use BuildGDX or Raze? Which one do you prefer and why? What are the pros and cons of each?

>> No.8123308

>>8123284
At least we got new official Quake expansion, which was very good.

>> No.8123309

>>8123305
BuildGDX, because it just works.

>> No.8123318

>>8121761
Sometimes secret rooms are intentionally not tagged as secret so that its not required for a max run.
Often such kinds of secret room requires a more obscure method than usual to reach, and may act more as an easter egg or reference, rather than your typical secret.

>> No.8123319
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Holy shit, Spin Cycle is neato. Glad I didn't miss this one.

>> No.8123324

>>8123305
raze, because it just works

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>>8121324
I will now play your game

>> No.8123328

>>8123284
What juvenile edge? The Columbine stuff? That doesn't get much mileage here usually, because most of us aren't teenage girls on tumblr.

>> No.8123340

>>8121324
>playing as a woman
>in a doom clone game

>> No.8123346

>>8123340
doom was going to have character selection with 4 different characters with different stats, one of those was a woman iirc

>> No.8123347

Where the fuck is the ROTT remaster?
>>8123319
Like a lot of secret Duke maps it's actually a map for deathmatch and a pretty neat one at that.

>> No.8123348

>>8123340
duke nukem clone*

>> No.8123350

>>8123319
It's a pretty popular map people copy sometimes, I played it first in a clone in Sven Co-op before playing Duke

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>>8123284

>> No.8123354

>>8123352
LMAO got'em

>> No.8123356

>>8121101
Can we maybe try to agree to a certain graphical setting when mapping?
I am currently doing some light effects and in software mode they are barely noticeable, whereas in GL mode they are because everything is generally darker.
So if I try and adjust it to GL it might be too bright overall in Software mode and if I do it in software, it'll be too dark in GL mode.
Currently I am doing everything on Software mode, Gamma Off.

>> No.8123357

>>8123340
The eternal Doom virgin

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>>8121324
Here, I fixed Ion Fury

>> No.8123363

>>8123324
Shill your garbage elsewhere

>> No.8123365
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>>8123360
Finally a spiritual sequel to Trespasser

>> No.8123368

>>8123363
why are you mad tho?

>> No.8123369

>>8123360
stop

>> No.8123372

>>8123360
Now they just need to jiggle and display your health

>> No.8123375

>>8123356
Well, we're doing MBF21, which means primarily compatibility for ports like DSDA, which is played in software, so I'm assuming we're going that route.

>> No.8123383 [DELETED] 

>>8123346
but it doesnt

man strong. woman weak
ever wonder how women get murdered by the dozen so easily in south america? because man strong. woman weak

>> No.8123390

>>8123215
>crafts Sigil
Credentials reinstated

>> No.8123397

>>8123305
GDX for Blood for the difficulty sliders

>> No.8123404 [DELETED] 

>>8123383
getting killed in a shithole like south america sounds easy as pie both for men and women

>> No.8123405

>>8123397
shill your garbage elsewhere

>> No.8123410

>>8123375
>which is played in software
Is that a law or something? What prevents me from choosing the GL renderer?
But ok, if everyone is only playing on software anyway, that's fine with me.

>> No.8123413 [DELETED] 

You see, I think I pinpointed the problem with Shelly and the likes. It's PENIS ENVY. They, as characters, are very insecure about their sex and thus are trying way too hard to out-macho Duke and Wang. They're "men with boobs", as Anita Srakissaki would've called them, except they are ashamed of their boobs as well, thus being forced to wear sensible tactical gear while Duke and Wang just put on whatever the fuck they wanted. Duke was not above wearing a pink shirt and watching Oprah, but Shelly wouldn't be caught dead doing something "girly". And creators have to indulge those characters, making them hypercompetent and infallible, otherwise the whole illusion falls apart.

This, in fact, can be one step further. Let's call it "TRYHARDS VERSUS NATURALS". Bad protagonists are always trying to be something, but good ones don't try, they just are. Doomguy never pretended to be anything more than a placeholder whose entire function is to hold gun and have something to shoot at in multiplayer, and it was good enough for people. Doom was about gameplay, not the guy making faces on the HUD. Doom Slayer, on the other hand, is trying to simultaneously live up to all the stale memes AND have a serious backstory, and comes off as a huge cringelord in the end. Lara Croft was described as "Indiana Jones with boobs" back in the day, but she never tried to actually be that, she did her own thing and we liked her for that. NuLara is trying to subvert male gaze, be a female character that Anita would be proud of, she can't even have pistols as her iconic weapons because guns are not woke (even though she still uses them), and in the end she's just a shadow of her former self. Donte vs Dante, Shadow vs Sonic, we can see the pattern everywhere.

>> No.8123414

>>8123397
>sliders
You can play with Extra Crispy spawns without Extra Crispy health pools

>> No.8123416 [DELETED] 

>>8123413
meds

>> No.8123423 [DELETED] 

>>8123416
Reddit that-a-way

>> No.8123426 [DELETED] 

>>8123423
Meds. Now.

>> No.8123428

>>8123410
Not him, but theres not really much you can take advantage of with GL renderer in DSDA, outside of maybe better performance for some people.
On top of this, Woof, the other port with MBF21 support, only has software renderer.

>> No.8123430

>>8123356
I'm doing everything in software mode.

>> No.8123434 [DELETED] 

>>8123426
I don't know where your damn meds are, try looking for them at your own house instead of asking people at anonymous imageboard.

>> No.8123435

>rapid fire hitscanner deals 1 damage
>but its damage doubles with each successive hit, resetting after a brief period of not hitting
did any game ever do something like this

>> No.8123439 [DELETED] 

>>8123434
You need to take your meds now before you devolve into having to (you) your own rally shitpost attempts like that nigger in the last thread.

>> No.8123443
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8123443

People play in open gl?

>> No.8123445 [DELETED] 

>>8123439
Meds. Now.

>> No.8123448

>>8123443
I like having a wider field of view.

>> No.8123452

>>8123443
yeah, it's 2021, vulkan is the thing for several years already

>> No.8123453

Hey anon do you know how to peer-to-peer multiplayer on gzdoom/lzdoom

>> No.8123456 [DELETED] 

>>8123445
Ah the full circle of the chongers

>> No.8123457

>>8123453
just use zandronum ffs

>> No.8123459

>>8123443
Why is there pink under Doomguy's eyes?

>> No.8123462 [DELETED] 

>>8123456
>Unironic “no youing”
Yeah, buckle up…

>> No.8123463

>>8123459
his vision is augmented

>> No.8123464

>>8123459
His Mom just died

>> No.8123465 [DELETED] 

>>8123445
you probably think you sound cool but repeating the same meme phrase over and over makes you look like a drooling retard

>> No.8123468 [DELETED] 

>>8123465
meds

>> No.8123472 [DELETED] 

>>8123465
I'm amazed that the 'meds' shit is still being used so much. We really keep stale rhetoric around for ages these days.

>> No.8123473 [DELETED] 

>>8123465
Reddit. Now.

>> No.8123474 [DELETED] 

>>8123472
it's most likely one guy

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>>8123474

>> No.8123513
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Spin Cycle and Tiberius Station were both quite good! Episode 2 is coming dangerously close to redeeming itself!

>> No.8123526

>>8123513
Tiberius Station fucking sucks.

>> No.8123528

>>8123513
Episode 2 was first my least favorite. I eventually warmed up to it, realized how to herd drones, now it’s my favorite. 2D Duke had lots of over the top settings and levels, and him flying into space is the closest the game gets to that.

>> No.8123532

>>8123526
Blow it out your ass
>>8123528
Yeah, I'm liking it a lot more now that I'm getting used to dealing with drones. Doors!

>> No.8123540

>>8121532
>please brightness

>> No.8123545

>>8121532
>duke game maps
Make it happen

>> No.8123550

What is SWWM JZ?

>> No.8123558

>>8123532
They’ll also fumble around pipes for easier shooting and the holoduke can work.

>> No.8123594

which doom monsters are women?

>> No.8123617

>>8123594
None? Wait, I guess meatballs might be chicks.

>> No.8123625

>>8123594
All of them if you're playing the right mods

>> No.8123626

>>8123594
>>8123617
Isn't Spider Mastermind female?

>> No.8123632

>>8123594
mother demon...

>> No.8123639

>>8121705
that pinky looks like he has a pacifier

>> No.8123645

>>8123459
those are his actual eyes

>> No.8123664

>>8123558
The holoduke is bugged and the only enemy it works on is octobrain

>> No.8123678

>>8123664
I once had them all fly to mine in that one room during Occupied Territory.

>> No.8123691

>>8123459
he haven't sleep

>> No.8123707

>>8122710
>Doom
E1M6, E2M4, E2M7, E4M2, E4M6
>Doom 2
The Focus, The Crusher, Inmost dens
>Quake
The entire "The Realm of Black Magic" episode.

>> No.8123736 [DELETED] 

>>8123594
Spider Mastermind, end boss from Doom 64, and Boss Brain as of recent.

>> No.8123741

>>8122710
Fuck, I guess I just can't pinpoint the maps I actually like, the whole experience kinds smooshes together for me. At best I can point out which episodes I like or not.

>> No.8123785

>>8122710
the pain maze for quake. i don't have a favourite level for any of the others.

>> No.8123801 [DELETED] 

>>8123626
>>8123736
is this because of olivia or does it have some basis in the original games?

>> No.8123806 [DELETED] 

>>8123801
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Spiderdemon
>"You guess the Arachnotrons had to come from somewhere. Hi, mom. She doesn't have a plasma gun, so thank heaven for small favors. Instead, she has a super-chaingun. Crap."
As for Boss Brain, it is obvious if you followed the news about Joahnna Romero.

>> No.8123814

>>8123594
you can see both holes of a caco

>> No.8123819

>>8123443
Software has better atmosphere compared to fancied up HW but vertical aiming is nice a lot of the time, so I set up opengl to look like software

>> No.8123828 [DELETED] 

>>8123806
please be jokes

>> No.8123838 [DELETED] 

>>8123828
Don't worry, I'm joking. Doom II manual was written by GT Interactive and is probably not canon.

>> No.8123843
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Is 40oz the most prolific mapper in Doom history?

>> No.8123848

>>8123843
nice picture man
do you have a smaller version

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>>8123843
Nooooo he's fascist transphobe, all these maps were made by Hatsune Miku!

>> No.8123854

>>8123843
Marisa Kirasami

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>>8123852
No shit memes

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>>8123879
>cleric powers up his mace
Items are fun but I miss me tomes of power

>> No.8123907

>>8123895
classes > tome

>> No.8123910

>>8123907
This is why Hexen is great for coop but suffers solo

>> No.8123917

>>8123895
>>8123907
but what if classes with tomes??

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>>8123917
hubbased

>> No.8123924

>>8123917
good luck coming up ideas for that many weapons

>> No.8123946

>>8123104
>It stops being doom but it becomes something better
>PB is *better* than vanilla doom
Citation fucking needed
It's different, claiming it's better just gives you away as an idiot that doesn't understand balance

>> No.8123965 [DELETED] 

>>8123946
>demands citation on a personal preference and opinion

meds

>> No.8123976

>>8123946
It’s like saying Hideous Destructor makes it “something better”.

>> No.8124002

>>8123843
The high iq play is to have made a lot of Doom maps and not have a wiki page

>> No.8124024

>>8123843
>go to Doomer boards
>some faggot made a really spergy thread about how Doom was too brutal for kids and how he was scared or some shit like that
>it's 40oz
left and never went back. Forum faggots will be forum faggots, no matter the board.

>> No.8124045

>>8122710
Doom E4M1
Doom 2 Dead Simple
Quake E2M1
DN3D - never bothered
Red Water game - E6M4
SW - never bothered

>> No.8124054

>>8124024
> Doom was too brutal for kids
>he was scared or some shit like that
Was he talking about being scared when he played it as a child? Why are you so jealous of 40oz's extreme creativity? Envy can spur you to improve, but don't be jealous of him. Blowing out someone else's candle doesn't make yours shine any brighter.

>> No.8124062

>>8124024
That's just disingenuous. People on imageboards are also occasionally willing to show weakness (or more often, severe retardation) but we're anonymous here so next thread you might as well pretend to be an alpha chad and none will be the wiser. On a forum you can just pin an extremely gay post on 40oz because his name is right there, but let's not pretend same shit doesn't happen here

>> No.8124078

>>8124024
what's your problem with him, he raped your mom or something?

>> No.8124089

>>8124062
>On a forum you can just pin an extremely gay post on 40oz because his name is right there
The same applies to tripfags, so to all of you lurkers and outsiders wondering why they're so hated, this is why.

>> No.8124093

>>8124024
>>8124054
>>8124062
>>8124078
Not anyone of you, but I do have conflicting feelings about 40oz. I appreciate his work as a mapper, project leader and maintaining Doomer Boards. But sometimes the guy is little paranoid. Now he is spouting that Bethesda has a plan to destroy Doom and Quake communities and they are doing this with releases of remasters. According to him nobody will use source ports and play non curated content anymore, since all will migrate to Steam.

>> No.8124103

>>8123946
It is better. I don't come back and play vanilla doom because the shit is boring. But I come back to play mods because it actually makes doom fun enough to be worthy of coming back to and user created maps keeps things new. Your idea of balance is trash because doom's original balance is boring trash. Imagine fighting monsters who attack you once every few seconds because they need to go on a walk after attacking you once. Project brutality on their realism setting at least makes the damn game fun and challenging because original doom is NOT challenging even on fast monsters. Fast monsters just make monsters in your face traps lame but not unbeatable. If I am in charge of balancing any game, it will be balanced so well that people will be addicted to it more than drugs. Only people that wouldn't are the types that ruin mmorpgs anyway. No one cares about them except for the people that they manage to trick.

>> No.8124107

>>8124093
Na, that won't happen. These game companies would shoot themselves in the foot if they tried to do that. The only thing that would kill the doom community is the community getting older.

>> No.8124112

>>8124054
>>8124103
>>8124062
>>8124078
40 pls

>> No.8124127

>>8124107
Yea, I agree. 40oz just seems like little schizo by actually believing conspiracies like that.

>> No.8124142

>>8124127
Though I wouldn't put it past these game companies. They are full of liars, trannys, and conmen.

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>> No.8124152

BUILD Engine: the 1990s equivalent of Gamebyro.

>> No.8124168

>>8124093
>company keeps their games updated and ready to play on modern systems
>IT'S A CONSIPRACY

lol

>> No.8124171

>>8124168
Yea, the source ports have been doing that all on their own now for years. more like people being allowed to make profit with someone else's work while people that actually do work on the game keep it alive for free and see nothing in the way of income because of stupid laws.

>> No.8124175 [DELETED] 

>>8124171
didn't read

>> No.8124179 [DELETED] 

>>8124175
didn't read

>> No.8124204 [DELETED] 

>>8124112
Take your meds.

>> No.8124206 [DELETED] 

>>8124175
You lied

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>>8121101
I have some other suggestions for bone decorations; lifted these from R667. Size-wise they should match. The pile of bones would of course be bigger than the regular skeleton. I would maybe just make the lilly-white skeleton a bit more dirty.

>> No.8124218

>>8124093
>Now he is spouting that Bethesda has a plan to destroy Doom and Quake communities and they are doing this with releases of remasters.
You mean, re-releases*? But yeah, that's some dumb conspiracy bullshit.

>> No.8124220

>>8124093
Everyone's gonna move to Doom Unity, let's face the facts here, Nerve added TWO addons this year and if they keep up that pace they might add another next year, nothing can stop this juggernaut.

>> No.8124228

>>8124220
Graf would suicide bomb Bethesda Studios if they were to do something like that

>> No.8124243

>>8124228
As bad as Graf is, I don't wish death upon him because I don't want GZDoom spearheaded by any of the people that surround him either.

>> No.8124269

>>8122640
False 3D in build is a cluterfuck to do, much more complicated than a real proper 3D editor.

>> No.8124315

>>8124269
Works on my machine, especially with the comfort options of Mapster32. But it's easy in vanilla BUILD, especially since I've done it so often I can map blindfolded.

>> No.8124350

>>8124315
But why use aproximations in a wonky engine when you can do the real thing

>> No.8124436

It sucks that Build was so shit. Duke Nukem 3D has some of the best level design out of any FPS, but it's doomed to fade further and further into obscurity just because Build was cursed.

>> No.8124441

What opinions posers have on retro fps?

>> No.8124445

>>8124441
Try asking doomworld. Get opinions from people who registered past doom 2016's release date.

>> No.8124465
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I experimented with different sampling sizes of light sources. One sample for every eighth texel, resulting in a more pixelated look. I already did some clamping to introduce visible stepping into the AO.
As you can see different texel sizes don't mix well, especially when that global light uses regular sampling.
I won't do things like lens flares or glow without visible stepping/pixelation in them. It just stands out too much.

I also think I broke my sprite system at some point last week.

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>>8124436
Weird opinion, but alright

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8124479

Implemented bright spots from the windows.
Since it's more of a twilight sun, I tried doing that where the lower edge is a hard one, but the upper edge is fading a bit into the shadows. Since it's a rather subtle effect and not really noticeable in Software, here it is in GL mode for emphasis.

>> No.8124483

>>8124471
Sorry Ken Moneymountain.

>> No.8124486

>>8124479
Very nice.

>> No.8124494
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>>8124483

>> No.8124535 [DELETED] 

>Be Doom youtube Channel
>have a video section
>doom secrets
>slip in Doom "Officially counted secrets"
>Don't show Doom 64 super secret exit
>cause its not officially counted
>ohh sorry thats in my other monetized video section of
>unofficial secrets of the levels
>that ones only 20 seconds long
>easy coulda been in the other video
>but naaaah i need that five cents from the manscaped ad at the beginning of my video

>> No.8124542

>>8124062
https://doomer.boards.net/thread/1790/bunny-gave-me-mild-trauma
This is something I wouldn't even post anonymously, mainly because I am neither a retard nor a sperg and have something like a sense of shame.

>> No.8124562

>>8124436
No idea what got you to that conclusion, but I'm interested to hear a more detailed elaboration.

>> No.8124564 [DELETED] 

>>8124535
Your own fault for watching that shit, you zoomer retard.

>> No.8124565 [DELETED] 

>>8124564
kys faggot

>> No.8124570

>>8124002
Can't stop someone from making one for you.

>> No.8124573

>>8123459
real answer: that's how the sprite is, though someone re-sized that image with nearest neighbor to be the right aspect ratio. so those pink lines got doubled up and more noticeable.

>> No.8124592

>>8123229
>>8123234
>just noticed the cyberdemon firing directly at you in the screenshot
this map is going to bust my ass, and I'm looking forward to it

>> No.8124607

>>8124562
There's a reason nobody makes Duke maps, while Doom and Quake are still getting enough fresh content every year to fill a landfill.

>> No.8124608

>>8124607
>never been to the Eduke32 forums

>> No.8124610

>>8124607
Because the Doom and Quake source codes got released?

>> No.8124612

>>8124607
How come Blood's got all these big episodic level packs compared to the other build bros?

>> No.8124618

>>8124612
Please forgive me, I'm retarded.
>>8124610
>>8124608

>> No.8124626

>>8124612
i think and i'm gonna say this as a guess the only old school build game that doesn't get maps and levels ETC is shadow warrior.
unless theres a map pack or something crazy then idk

Duke maps and mods are basically centered around Eduke 32. Theres no if ans or buts about that unfortunately. blood has some quality shit from all over the place.

The reason it seems like Duke and Co don't have much is cause its hard to know where to look.
With Doom its all just in one place. Like i knew about Id Games before i ever started posting here.
Duke content. not so easy to find unless you go on the Eduke forums

>> No.8124627

>>8124607
That's not even true. Under what rock are you living?

>> No.8124631

>>8124626
>what is xduke
>What is BuildGDX?

>> No.8124635

I'm new to Doom mapping. Is it true that the game doesn't support buildings with 2 floors?

>> No.8124636 [DELETED] 

>>8124631
>java

>> No.8124640

>>8124635
Not true, Going Down has like 32 floors

>> No.8124643

>>8124635
It's possible in UDMF. Now watch the Boom autists come out of the woodwork REEEEEing.

>> No.8124645 [DELETED] 

>>8124636
That's the non-argument that keeps creeping up.
Not even dignifying that with further answers at this point.

>> No.8124647

>>8124627
See
>>8124618

>>8124635
I don't know about modern mapping, but "true" room over room stuff was impossible with the original mapping tools.

>> No.8124650 [DELETED] 

>>8124645
playing on real hardware or a fucking emulator? yeah, totally not an argument for a gdx schizo like you

>> No.8124651

>>8124631
Eduke32 is basically the main game in town when it comes to Duke maps, mods and etc content.

>> No.8124653
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8124653

FRIDAY NIGHT FIREFIGHT TIME, WITH A TWIST! TODAY WE'RE PLAYING CAPTURE THE FLAG ON 32-IN-24 16. JOIN 104.128.49.2:10676 ZANDRONUM AND GET SOME FLAGS!

>> No.8124656

>>8124635
Yes and no. There's multiple ways you can work around it. You can use some hackery to create crude bridges in vanilla like in Scythe MAP01, but for creating full on rooms above other rooms, this is not feasible. In boom, you can create the illusion of a floor above another floor with silent teleporters. If you want an example from an anon here, check out MAP06 and MAP13 from HFFM. Advanced formats support actual 3D geometry, but beware that they're very resource intensive.

>> No.8124658

>>8124651
They got a Deathwish/Eviction equivalent over there? Bit weird to hear all this "eduke, eduke, eduke!" but no maps.

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>>8124650
>JAVA BAD! IT HURTS ME BRAIN!

>> No.8124667 [DELETED] 

>>8124662
wow real arguments here, buddy

>> No.8124671

>>8124658
so what the onus is on me to cater and post links to you cause a second ago you thought none existed? i just told you where they are. The Eduke forums

>> No.8124674

>>8124658
There are lots of ambitious TCs and map packs. Also a shitload of single maps that fly around since game release thanks to those shovelware collection CDs.*

*might be no indicator for quality, but that wasn't different with Doom.

>> No.8124676

>>8124671
>so what the onus is on me
Yeah it's easy, look at this:
>Valiant for Doom
>Arcane Dimensions for Quake
So go away.

>> No.8124678 [DELETED] 

>>8124676
nah fuck you. you got google bro

>> No.8124681 [DELETED] 

>>8124650
>>8124636
same schizo post, every single time

>> No.8124683 [DELETED] 

>>8124678
>Google instead of Bing, Yahoo or Qwant.

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>>8124681
ok schizo

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>>8124667
YOU gave no plausible argument in the first place. Are you just here to stir up shit?

>> No.8124692 [DELETED] 

>>8124684
You sound like a broken record. Might be better for you on >>>/b/

>> No.8124698 [DELETED] 

>>8124686
shitty vsync, shitty fps stability, shitty mouse support, zero customization. here's your arguments, now fuck off, retard

>> No.8124703 [DELETED] 

>>8124698
Are you mental? Who hurt you?

>> No.8124706 [DELETED] 

>>8124703
your mom hurt me clenching on my dick like crazy

>> No.8124718
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>>8124674
Giving Duke Hard a shot. Fun but nothing amazing so far.

>> No.8124751

>>8124718
Then get to work anon. It's always nice having more people in the mapping community.
You can find use at the eduke forums.

>> No.8124752

>>8124651
Did they fix the retarded doors in eduke already?

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>>8124751
If I get into mapedit it's going to be to make something for Blood

>> No.8124784
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8124784

I did it

>> No.8124787

>>8124635
It's true. Build engine games can do room over room however, so you should learn mapedit and make maps for redneck rampage

>> No.8124790

>>8124752
There is nothing to fix for compatibility sake. This is how the original wing doors (SE 11) in DN3D behave. If you want it fixed then fork eduke. The source is open and the fix you desire is actually not hard to implement.

>> No.8124796

>>8124790
The doors don't close when they bump into you in dos duke. I don't know why they added that behaviour but it made the game basically unplayable for me and I couldn't find any way to turn it off. Rednukem doesn't have this problem.

>> No.8124813

>>8124796
As intended. SE 11 needs to maintain the ability to crush players.

>> No.8124818

>>8124796
Alternatively, why don't you join us at the eduke forums, bringing your suggestions directly to the developer ?!

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8124828

Is there an interesting way to fight battlelords without the shrinkway?

>> No.8124834

>>8124828
Everything else is a waste of ammo and will likely get you killed on a max difficulty run.

>> No.8124841

>>8123843
I'd wager if you were just looking for total number of maps it would probably go to one of Xaser, Jimmy, Tarnsman or Skillsaw.

>> No.8124847

>>8124828
Battlelords are so unfun to fight. Whoever designed them was an idiot.

>> No.8124858

>>8124847
OK nerd

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>>8124834
>>8124847
Even shadow ninjas are better. Going to be speedbumpy if this "Duke Hard" throws more of these exciting encounters in the way of the levels.

>> No.8124880

>>8124869
No idea why people have problems with shadow ninjas

>> No.8124925
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>>8124880
Besides the one spawning behind you in the first level, you mean? It can otherwise be hard for people to adjust what's basically a spectre packing a rocket launcher. I'd have been nice and given them a unique alert noise that stayed loud regardless of distance, like the cyber or mastermind.

>> No.8124934
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8124934

Messing around with texture projection lights on the start map. Is this a bit over the top or should I keep it?
It fades in and out but I'm too lazy to make a webm right now.

>> No.8124939

Is there anything in lore that explains what the quake logo is supposed to be or represent?

>> No.8124940
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>>8124925
Or you can simply git gud

>> No.8124943

>>8124818
Nah. Sorry eduke dev, but I won't play your port when there already better alternatives.

>> No.8124945

>>8124943
Hardly, sour grapes.

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>>8124925
They're only rude through their introduction, then you're wary while playing.
They're a LOT more fun to fight than battlelords but not as fun as Caleb voodoodanceoffs.

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8124968

We post maps that are impossible to 100% on coop.

>> No.8124975
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8124975

>>8124968
>that cyber in map01
Bless multiplayer monster spawns

>> No.8124980

>>8124934
Looks cool, though I would've done fainter myself.
Is the startmap going to be a hub and each level will be accessed separately?

>> No.8124985

>>8124980
>Is the startmap going to be a hub and each level will be accessed separately?
Yes, it will also let you toggle modifiers without having to use console commands.

>> No.8125053

I did a comparison test with Blood: Fresh Supply and Blood with Raze.
Blood: Fresh Supply lacks some animations (like Caleb's hands going in air when he blows himself up with TNT) there are some bugs here and there with FS and the Raze version feels a lot snappier and lightweight compared to FS (jump psychic, climbling things, tossing Dynamite et similia), idk if these things in Raze are caused by GZDoom, i need to try Blood in BuildGDX for further investigation

>> No.8125070

I hate Spawns so much.

>> No.8125080

>>8125053
I've been using raze since I heard about it and i really like the way it handles blood over fresh supply. also its just drag and drop the zip of mods on to the raze exe and thats it.

i also noticed in fresh supply with death wish. my pc would lag when outside of
>calebs house

and looking at it from a distance. like once the whole thing came into view. it would lag
or whatever on the first stage noticeably but with raze it wouldn't

>> No.8125082
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8125082

Alright, is this another Boom bullshit issue? Whenever I place those chairs in a non-90° angle, I get this kind of slime trail AND some invisible blocking lines. I tried placing the chairs in a 45° angle, but that also doesn't work.

>> No.8125089

>>8125082
i think slimetrails happen when stuff isnt aligned to the grid or something like that

>> No.8125092

>>8124718
I have been eye balling duke for modding if only because I like the theme of it better than doom. Demons don't exist but aliens existing and wanting to hurt us seems more realistic. It's part of the draw for me personally. I mean what's more likely to happen? Alien invasion or demon invasion? Some people say they're the same thing then why do they get two identifications for the same thing? Boogie woogie demons don't exist except in christian fantasy but aliens existing, there most certainly is because we exist and are in space and the fact we naturally have already tried to reach for the starts implies there are others out there like us and unlike us out there who have as well. So having aliens unlike us invade and steal our chicks seems because they're incapable of reproducing on their own for whatever reason as a theme seems more realistic than the boogie woogie fanfiction. It actually makes it a bit more terrifying because the possibility of hostile aliens is just as equal as neutral and friendly aliens. And if the hostile ones are reaching us through space you can sure bet they're ahead of us militaristically as well. We'd basically have to actually fight instead of waiting for a magi rabbi to come down from the heavens because only he can defeat the demons :)

One is pure fantasy but the other is actually real. There is alien life out there because on our pale blue dot in the middle of space, is life.

>> No.8125102
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8125102

When playing episode-based megawads, I only play first episode, maybe second if I like the theme. No point playing any further, first episode is always the best and later episodes are always slaughtershit.

>> No.8125105

>>8125089
I checked and double-checked. All vertices are aligned, I don't even think there can be unaligned vertices in Boom format. I also rebuild nodes yadda yadda. No fucking idea what's going on here, but it definitely only happens when placing the chairs at an angle.

>> No.8125114

>>8125102
Based and chadpilled

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8125115

>Slaughter is... LE BAD because.... um... IT JUST IS OK!?

>> No.8125116

What's a slaughtermap? What other types of maps exist? To me they're all just maps.

>> No.8125126 [DELETED] 

>>8125115
shut up 40oz

>> No.8125152

>XASER'S SHiTWADS!
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/s-u/swads_x
can we add this to the shitwad queue?

>> No.8125159

>>8125152
>jokewads

>> No.8125160

>>8125116
There are a couple of qualifications:
>You don't like it.
>It was made by someone you don't like.
>You suck at Doom and don't understand how infighting works.
>The mob count in a room is bigger than a dozen enemies.
>You need to be spatially aware of high-tier enemies in a 30 year old game.

>> No.8125164

>>8125159
i dunno if it's good or not. i figure anon can play it for me

>> No.8125182

>>8124841
I just checked. Skillsaw has the second highest number of triple-A quality maps, as judged by me, first place being Sandy, ofc. Jimmy's speed diarrhea maps do not count, even if they did, he wouldn't be close to Xaser or 40oz. I think it's a tie between Xaser and 40oz so 40oz wins due do alphabetical order

>> No.8125189

>>8125152
I think Anon's more interested in wads that are bad unintentionally. Terrywads usually have more self awareness of how bad they are.

>> No.8125195

>follow doomkid on doomworld
>log in weeks later
>notifications are nothing but hundreds of doomkid posts

>> No.8125204
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8125204

>>8125195

>> No.8125208

>>8125116
>What's a slaughtermap?
Maps dedicated for special (Autistic) people.

>> No.8125213

>>8125116
Ever since someone called map07 of 2048vr slaughter, I've been convinced it's a term for "map I can't beat." Get good nerds.

>> No.8125224

>>8125160
It's not because it's muh hard, it's because it's repetitive and not fun

>> No.8125226

>>8125224
>it's repetitive and not fun
>>You don't like it.
Try reading

>> No.8125228

>>8125182
>Jimmy's speed diarrhea maps
This also describes 40oz's entire mapping output.

>> No.8125234

>>8125226
you're literally implying people don't like it because you think it's hard, retard

>> No.8125236
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8125236

>chaingunners still have chainguns on their dead sprites
>shotgunners still have shotguns on their dead sprites
>zombiemen, the only former humans that don't drop their weapon when they die, don't have a rifle on their dead sprite
WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN GOING ON ANYMORE

>> No.8125240

>>8125228
Brainlet still mad about map12?

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8125245

>>8125228
>This is a new IP

Also are we shitwadding tonight

>> No.8125254

>>8125240
Nah, AZ map 12 was the most interesting map 40oz has made in years. It's the rest of the boring waste of space shit that's the problem.

>> No.8125256

>>8125234
Calling something "repetitive and unfun" is basically saying that you don't like it. All subjectiveness and nothing of substance.

>> No.8125262 [DELETED] 

>>8125254
Ah, hello DW shill.

>> No.8125269

>>8125236
>shotgunners still have shotguns on their dead sprites
incorrect

>> No.8125270 [DELETED] 

>>8125262
>Calling someone a shill for not liking the output of a guy so lazy he tries to defend not fixing bugs as an artistic decision

>> No.8125282

>>8125269
Look closer.

>> No.8125324

>>8125236
What is the original image from?

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>>8125245
Alright. One particular Anon's revulsion has inspired me to play Memoirs of Magic. He said I shouldn't play it, which means all the more reason to play it.
>https://youtu.be/22rGcWMECns

This is for you, Anon. Enjoy the ride.

>> No.8125331

>>8125326
That was me. I'm not gonna be there to watch you go through this shit, but remember:
You're asking for it.

>> No.8125338

>>8125324
Green Elephant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA-j0j4DXiU

>> No.8125345

>>8125326
>too scared to pick bara furshit
NGMI

>> No.8125346

>>8124962
SW has the best looking rocket launcher in all of FPS history

>> No.8125350

>>8125345
If you're talking about the hawkman, he's the best character. The wolf monk has cool moves but it takes a fucking eternity to grind up XP to make them worth a damn.

>> No.8125352

>>8125116
Maps with an overabundance of enemies. Like you enter a 256x512 room and there is nothing but barons shoulder to shoulder. You'll know because the shooting never stops. The closest thing to a slaughter map in original doom is plutonia map 32.

>> No.8125354

>>8125350
Aren't they all bara furshit except for shota demon and skeleton?

>> No.8125359

>>8125354
There's a narrow ratman guy, and a normal ass human cleric too.
God damn this game frustrates me because it's got a lot of effort put forth into it, and the variety between the characters is pretty neat. But the gameplay and shitty boring cliche story are really bad.

>> No.8125381

>Lo Wang's sister's name isn't "No Wang"
wtf?

>> No.8125390
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8125390

the lewd skins

>> No.8125409

>>8125390
Source?

>> No.8125412

>>8125409
No, idtech 1.

>> No.8125413

>>8125381
IIRC it's bounced back and forth between No Wang and Tensei Yoka during Deadly Kiss' development.

>> No.8125487

Man, I can't decide between BuildGDX and Raze for my SW run. Never had this issue before with source ports.

>> No.8125492

>>8125487
SW is one of the few I don't like using GDX for, it reads my mouse weird sometimes.
One of those may have the option to disable bees if you get triggered or play without aim assist.

>> No.8125509

>>8125352
>You'll know because the shooting never stops.
you often have to not shoot in slaughter maps because you have to very specifically trigger in-fighting

>> No.8125518

>>8125492
Yeah, I've noticed a little bit of sluggishness with GDX, guess I'll stick to Raze.

>> No.8125557

I'm sure this gets asked a lot, but what the hell is up with normies loving brutal doom so fucking much? It's like every time I talk to someone in real life about Doom, nearly the first thing out of their mouth is something along the lines of, "Oh yeah have you heard of brutal doom?!" Is it just the youtube effect?

>> No.8125558

>>8125557
youtube effect and it's pretty much the only mod that got covered by shitty journalists, it's a little better nowadays but still bad.

>> No.8125559

>>8123443
Is this a TC or something? I'd like to give it a shot.

>> No.8125560

>>8125559
No, it's just a regular wad.

>> No.8125563

>>8125509
Yea. I tend to forget because I play on a mod where they don't in fight but it's persistent so I have the ammo to get the work done myself.

>> No.8125564

>>8125560
what wad

>> No.8125576
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8125576

What this megawad

>> No.8125580

>>8125576
Moon Forest

>> No.8125581

>>8125564

DBP37: AUGER;ZENITH

>> No.8125590

>>8125576
deus vult ii

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8125602

>>8125326
Yep, Memoirs of Magic is about what you expected it to be. An absolute shitshow of a wad. Great presentation, but holy fuck, the combat is awful, tedious and outright fucking bullshit in some regards. Ocean 2024, on the other hand, is a confusing nightmarish mess of bad art assets. It simulates the feeling of browsing Deviantart perfectly.

And fuck it, I might as well show this off too.
The model for my TC's protagonist is nearly done.
>https://files.catbox.moe/f9f4ji.png

>> No.8125603

>>8125602
Anon plays shitwads began 2 months ago and you're still at it. Based.

>> No.8125605

>>8125602
make the peen smaller
grotesque horsepeens arent fun
cute normalpeens ftw

>> No.8125607

>>8125602
>futa

>> No.8125610

>>8125603
Thanks, Anon. Hard to believe time's passed so fast.

>>8125605
Go big or go home m8

>>8125607
Of course. If Hedon is anything to go by, there are plenty of degenerates who would love a futa protagonist.

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>>8125602
I warned you dawg. I WARNED YOU ABOUT THAT GAME BALANCE.

>> No.8125616

>>8125605
>>8125610
Better yet, make the dick upgradable.

>> No.8125617

>>8125605
>he thinks that's grotesquely big
Anon....

>> No.8125618

>>8125610
>Hard to believe time's passed so fast.
Let me make it worse. 2048 units of /vr/ began development 435 days ago, friday night firefight began 246 days ago, and this board was created 3099 days ago (yeah, checkem)
Sleep tight kids

>> No.8125624

>>8125617
judging by flaccid size it's gonna be about 2-2.5 feet long when it's hard, so yes.

>> No.8125626

>>8125624
That's not how all dicks work, anon. Often bigger dicks are pretty much the same size flaccid as they are erect.

>> No.8125630

>>8125626
you have to take ball/peen ratio into account too
i know a few things about cocks anon, trust me

>> No.8125632

>>8125624
>2-2.5 feet long when it's hard
>he thinks that's grotesquely big
Amateur hours in here.

>> No.8125636

>>8125105
Slime trails just happen randomly, I think they don't appear in hardware rendering anyway. But the best and only solution for them is just jiggling the vertices around and placing them in a slightly different spot.

>> No.8125648

>>8125636
Look at the node viewer in doombuilder, and you'll probably see a very long thin sector. that's what's doin your slimes.
try to collapse it with your verts.

>> No.8125658

Even though there is already several ways to play Doom 64. Do you guys think if the Doom64.Wad file was ported to things like GZDoom and Boom.
More content would be made in the Doom 64 format?

>> No.8125660

What's your favorite TNT map?

>> No.8125673

>>8125602
>latex demon isn't futa x male
Excellent.

>> No.8125684

when are we finally making a wad for SNES Doom?

>> No.8125705

>>8125684
You mean hacks?

>> No.8125710

>>8125581
Thanks!

>> No.8125713

>>8125660
dead zone

>> No.8125723

>>8125660
Mount Pain

>> No.8125726

>>8125660
Heck

>> No.8125735

>>8125658
if doom 64 format was in dbx and udb i would j8tx4
doom builder 64 all the shit is scrambled literally scrambled and door creator makes doom 2 doors instead of doom64 up and down doors and i dont know how to copy sector colors and the automap is retarded dbx has easy automap stuff but 8n doom builder 64 you need to do it the gay way

>> No.8125767
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caco pog

>> No.8125787

>>8125390
not even a coomer but those actually look pretty good

>> No.8125794

>>8124635
you can with some portal trickery in gzdoom, play imposs

>> No.8125795

>>8125794
You don't even need GZDoom for portal trickery, actually. Take a look at HFFM

>> No.8125796

Revae just posted the trailer for Sunken Land on Twitter. Looks pretty good.
https://twitter.com/RevaeRavus/status/1436568562374627339

>> No.8125801

>>8125796
i don't understand the new hud. why would you put the numbers for armor in the middle?

>> No.8125808

>>8125735
You seem drunk but i agree. I wanted to make a D64 map long ago but the old editor is so slow compared to UDB, its frustrating. Especially coloring every area individually.

>> No.8125857

Is the quake 1's remaster multiplayer stuttery for anyone else? Even with lowish ping?

>> No.8125878
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8125878

Welp, you know what day it is, are there any 9/11 wads or mods?

>> No.8125889

>>8125878
terry.wad

>> No.8125891

how to turn doom into a hentai dating sim?

>> No.8125893

>>8125891
Wasn't the HDoom guy working on that? In something like 2015 he started working on that premise but I don't think he still finished it, just like HDoom lol

>> No.8125898

>>8125891
HDoom had a demo for that shit, but it never went anywhere.

>> No.8125906
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8125906

>>8123443
>>8125581
Looks nice. I'm really going to enjoy playing that 35 DBPs from now.

>> No.8125937

>>8125213
Was that Forsaken Stockades? Yeah, I beat that, but I still call that courtyard slaughtershit.
It was a bad map overall anyway. For reference, I liked Caliginous Cauldron even though it kicked my ass more than Forsaken Stockades, so get fucked with your shit map.

>> No.8125939

For what counts as slaughter map
Do you think Unloved turns into one after some point?

>> No.8125941

>>8125256
>All subjectiveness and nothing of substance.
Okay, let me make a map that is nothing but square room after square room with the samey encounters.
Then you have to describe without calling it repetitive and unfun, because it's all so subjective.

>> No.8125943

>>8125116
There's no definitive answer, but Doom has distinct diminishing return from monster quantity.

>> No.8125954

>>8125795
Wait, there are portals in Boom?

>> No.8125967

>>8125954
It has silent teleports.

>> No.8125972

>>8125967
But that's not portals. You can't even look through or anything. Man even just visual portals would already go a long way in Boom.

>> No.8125996

Where can I find an HDest playthrough of Toilet of the Gods?

>> No.8126068
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>>8125390
Nice.

>> No.8126073
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8126073

Ion Fury fan here, kind of disappointed that the expansion pack has been delayed until 2022 but I've been playing quite a few games in the meanwhile like Shadow Warrior, Soldier of Fortune and Douk.

Haven't been here for a few months, any new modern retro boomer shooters in the horizon? How did people take to the Quake remaster ?

>> No.8126092

>>8125967
Silent teleports are not really the same thing.
You can sorta fake room over room with them, but requires a bit of work to make the transition actually seamless, and generally very limited compared to actual portals.

>> No.8126094

>>8125660
Stronghold

>> No.8126116
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>tfw only about 1/3 of the map done
There are still so many rooms and pieces of architecture to do and enemies to place.....

>> No.8126121

>>8126068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSehhpW6stE
0:33
It also annoys me how when you search for Doom related shit Doomwiki is at the top of the results but for HL related shit combineoverwiki is in second page or so

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my immediate reaction to getting shot in the back

>> No.8126129
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8126129

It's really late into the thread, and really late over here but IT'S SCREENSHOT SATURDAY. I'M SURE A FEW OF YOU GUYS CAN POST A THING OR TWO OF SOMETHING YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON BEFORE THIS THREAD IS OVER: MAPS, MODS, SPRITES, YOU KNOW THE GODDAMN DRILL BY NOW.

SOMEONE ELSE BETTER REPOST THIS FOR THE NEXT THREAD WHILE I SLEEP OR I'M GONNA BE REALLY FUCKING ANNOYED WITH YOU BOYS.

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>> No.8126146 [DELETED] 

>>8126132
how is that game retro? I thought it was released in 2020

>> No.8126173

>>8125660
Pharaoh

>> No.8126178 [DELETED] 

>>8126073
Realms Deep 2021 has announced so many retro boomer shooters the market is going to crash soon, Shelly needs bigger boobs, also it's not retro (at least according to our tranny janny).

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i've justed learned that i can switch fist mode in brutal doom v21 with R and that I can taunt with H

>> No.8126185 [DELETED] 

>>8126146
2018.
it's tolerated here since it runs on a modified port of eduke.

>> No.8126186 [DELETED] 

>>8126185
It really isn't, it's just sometimes not deleted because janny is sleeping. I've seen posts about Wrath and GZDoom-based games being deleted despite having same excuse.

>> No.8126187 [DELETED] 

>>8126178
No, Shelly needs to be forgotten. Boring and unfunny in stark contrast to Duke, Caleb and Lo Wang.

>> No.8126192 [DELETED] 

>>8126186
Cry harder. It is.

>> No.8126194 [DELETED] 

>>8126187
I insist that we need to save her, otherwise we'll never be able to have good female protagonists in boomer shooters again.

>> No.8126195 [DELETED] 

>>8126192
fuck off zoomer

>> No.8126197

>>8125602
Your art is atrocious. Have you considered returning to DA?

>> No.8126203 [DELETED] 

>>8126195
*Gen-X
Watch your mouth kiddo.

>> No.8126205 [DELETED] 

>>8126178
>has announced so many retro boomer shooters

It already happened anon, almost none of those teasers will be coming out.

I think 3d realms had something going on here, but right now I only expect a couple of them. New blood stuff might have more chances they actually delivered tons of shit by now.

>> No.8126207 [DELETED] 

what if there was a doom mod that add female enemies in game, with boobs and stuff haha and imagine that you're also running brutal doom v21 and also imagine that you just got the demon strength powerup haha Imagine stomping her head in and ripping out her guts wouldnt that be so funny guys? lol imagine the blood

>> No.8126212 [DELETED] 

>>8126207
seek help

>> No.8126213

>>8122386
my friend, i was in a similar boat, though i also came back around 2010 and left again you're in for a treat.

this is the best doom has ever been; things like ribbiks maps have opened up a whole new style of gameplay, one not found in any other gaming

enjoy

>> No.8126216 [DELETED] 

>>8126212
hey haha Im just joking lol ;)

unless...

>> No.8126224 [DELETED] 

>>8126207
imagine instead of the regular imp/soldier death groans, a female imp/soldier voiced version when you shoot her arm or leg off lol

can you imagine? haha

>> No.8126226

to date only doom 2 and quake have perfected the enemy roster, and every other fps has some clear cut blanket method of evading all of its enemies

>dude just bunnyhop spastically and nothing can hit you lmao
painkiller
dusk
>dude just run backwards and nothing can hit you lmao
serious sam
>dude just run around or duck in and out of cover and nothing can hit you lmao
doom 1
ion fury
prodeus
>dude just shoot first to stunlock enemies and nothing can hit you lmao
wolfenstein 3d
rise of the triad
shadow warrior
>dude just crouch and nothing can hit you lmao
blood
>dude just dash and nothing can hit you lmao
doom *t*rn*l
viscerafest
nu shadow warrior
>dude nothing can hit you lmao
amid evil

not all of those examples are "retro" in the truest sense, but which of the aforementioned styles of engagement do you prefer to see in oldschool fps games? for me it's running backwards and prioritizing targets.

>> No.8126238

>>8126226
>doom *t*rn*l
didn't doom eternal also had weak spots and windows of opportunities?
the marauder had a brief shootable state based on the right distance
this is also about level design and encounter/how the level design creates the fights

>> No.8126239

>>8126187
While Blood is a good game, I never found Caleb funny. I didn't find the game itself very comedic either. It does have theme of horror cliches, but it seems to take itself (too) seriously. I actually found Ion Fury much more comedic. Or then I just don't get the type of humor in Blood.

>> No.8126243

>>8126239
Doesn't Blood have a Heree's Johnny quote in that Shining reference level? It definitely doesn't take itself too seriously

>> No.8126248

>>8126239
I think Blood is really funny, albeit in a different way than Duke or SW. Ion has its moments.

>> No.8126249

>>8126194
Anon we wont have decent style in games for at least two generations.

One of the most sobering things in life is being reminded things move slow. Social, economical, cultural etc.

I could imagine a Rage 2, which is technically amazing and fun to play, having some fucking soul , and campy stuff, from fan service sexy to gore and still be fun.

But it seems today everything is you are either a coomer, or play wtv trash comes out on ps5 and feel enlightened. Fuck I am rambling now

>>8126239
No way there is nothing in Ion Fury that is worth remembering only the levels and gunplay.

Blood is not meant to be funny, its about revelling in its Halloween lovecraft ambiance in a fun way. Its as fun as a goth trying to be a stand up comedian.
Which is why Bloodlines is a such great game. its still horror themed but it has genuine funny stuff.

>> No.8126250

>>8125581
>DBP37: AUGER;ZENITH
Playing this with BGC Doom was a great idea.

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>>8126186
>sometimes not deleted
It's never been deleted or discouraged during the time I've been here m8 and it plays really like the other build engine games.

>>8126207
I'm into guro (though more stuff like hanging that isn't as bloody) and I find people that do this kind of song and dance pretty insufferable. Like haha look how edgy I am for liking it xD.

>>8126187
EH, I think Shelly was alright. Sure, different from the iconic Build Engine protags but not terrible. Also it helped Ion Fury a lot that they had a running villain and a little back and forth between Shelly and Janus.
Like don't get me wrong, it wasn't the best ever, but not terrible either, it gave the game a little premise and sort of a continuity while preserving the structure of the game not BURDENED by the plot.

>> No.8126254 [DELETED] 

>>8126251
There is nothing fun about their interaction, its boring as fuck. Neither shelly nor the old fuck grab your attention.

>> No.8126258 [DELETED] 

>>8126254
I agree that the villain is fucking terrible. I don't even remember his name. To me, he's just 'old guy'.

>> No.8126260 [DELETED] 

>>8126251
didnt ask
stop projecting your deranged fetishes on me

gender equality. stop being a fucking pussy

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>>8126254
Well that's your problem I suppose?
I personally enjoyed it and am looking forward to the expansion pack. And hoping that more games with that graphics style will get made.

>> No.8126265

>>8126250
>BGC Doom
what is that

>> No.8126270

>>8126262
Yes I hope more get made.
Yes its only my problem, come on anon
They are both fucking boring.

>> No.8126271

>>8126265
Bubblegum Crisis Doom, v1.2 is "current" (as in 2001). It's not particularly well balanced, the Obliterator (Chaingun replacement) is hugely OP since it's got a cranked RoF and an ammo cap of 600/1200.

>> No.8126279

>>8126270
Man, it gets talked about every fuckin' time Ion Fury comes up; but I always have to agree. I wish the devs put a little more oomph into Shelly's character outside of "tough girl who swears a lot and drops pops culture refs" - she needed some sort of defining trait outside of that, and she doesn't have it.

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>>8126251
>Like haha look how edgy I am for liking it xD.
>Women can be "strong" main characters but NOOOOOOOO YOU CANT HURT WOMEN YOU PSYCHOPATH WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YO-

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>>8120993
>Map 22: Despair
That's a fitting fucking name.

>> No.8126287

>>8125092
Holy shit amazing pasta. Is this from some forum?


>>8126279

There is very little attention to both of them, and how they should interact and more on level design and hiding references.

Its a very sober game, the devs in charge of communicating the story through the level design and snippets of dialogue should've had more drugs or alcohol.

I mean its Ion Maiden is all about cybernetics and cyberpunk they dont even parody the genre enough. And oh boy they have material there.

>> No.8126290 [DELETED] 

>>8126238
even the marauder doesn't necessitate target priority, you still can just dash away and shoot the dog indefinitely/until other stuff is dead if you want to
he doesn't deal that much damage either all things considered
every enemy in eternal is exactly as braindead and inaccurate as the last and you can only fall to them if you stop dashing and glory killing, whereas doom 2's roster expects you to change up your movement a bunch to survive different scenarios

>> No.8126296 [DELETED] 

>>8126290
Yet everybody thinks Eternal is the endgame of fps.

Let me tell you I had more fun in borderlands enemy design. if you removed the op weapons later game.

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>>8126296
borderlands more like boredom-lands
*yawn*

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>>8126285
>"haha Imagine stomping her head in and ripping out her guts wouldnt that be so funny guys?"
sure doesn't read like someone trying to talk about their guro fetish.
Why don't you read the posts you're replying to before responding you low i.q negroid

>> No.8126308 [DELETED] 

>>8126305
kill yourself ypu fucking pussy

I would stomp in shellys head and rip out her uterus

>> No.8126310 [DELETED] 

>>8126296
Let's not go crazy now. Eternal is deffo better than yet another "play the game for 30 hours and then you get to actually start playing the game" shittery.

>> No.8126315 [DELETED] 

>>8126304
Just talking about enemy attack types. There is a whole bunch of them.

Quite a few games with heavy focus on multiplayer sadly did quite well and some of their decisions are pretty interesting. Like say the melee and range combat in Vermintide 1 is amazing.

>>8126310
Sure but we are talking about enemy types.

>> No.8126317 [DELETED] 

>>8126308
Jokes on you! She's a tranny!

>> No.8126319

>>8124939
It's Shubbie.

>> No.8126320 [DELETED] 

>>8126308
Again, you clearly didn't read the posts.

>> No.8126326 [DELETED] 

>>8126320
yeah I also forgot to post didnt read too

>> No.8126327

>>8125082
>>8125105
Merge the floor around the chairs into them to delete them, then draw them again. It's the only approach I can think of.

>> No.8126328

>>8126296
i don't wanna bully eternal more than i have to, i was just trying to point out that almost /every/ fps has one singular approach to all of its enemies
i think sam is the most complex non-doom because it does necessitate shooting certain things first to not die, and the enemies can work together well to box you in. that's why i picked it, but 80% of your dodging is from pressing S, so i had to do the meme.

>> No.8126338

>>8126226
interesting perspective, thanks for posting.

a related thing is the sheer variety of combat scenarios you get with doom 2, i guess mainly due to absolute fuckers like pain elementals and arch viles.

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>>8126296
>Let me tell you I had more fun in borderlands enemy design

>> No.8126409
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Is Half Life echoes any good?

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>>8126129
before the thread dies, here's a pic of the revenant sniper tower in my map. I really like how it plays and looks but the player is having trouble shooting over the castle walls, so I should probably lower them a bit more

>> No.8126425

>>8126409
No

>> No.8126426

>>8126409
Its amazing, its a bit of a show-off sometimes, but I love it.
A bit short as well.

But fuck I love how detailed BM feels, something about old engines pushed to higher levels of details and props\assets gets me off.

>> No.8126428

>>8126249
Bloodlines has most of its memey shit behind Malkavian, other classes get mostly normal dialogue. New Vegas also does a similar thing with Wild Wasteland, the le quirky shit is behind a choice and not forced on everyone, I liked it desu

>> No.8126430

>>8126428
I was mentioning outside malkavian shit. It has some funny moments and writing. Like computer stuff, the fat cop etc, There is a feeling devs were having fun.

>> No.8126438

>>8126409
it's short but I really enjoyed pretty much all of it. I think the only thing I disliked was the final battle, it's a bit of a non-stop slog. But everything else is great, it nails down both the comedic and horror that Half-Life had and is crazy detailed. Seriously the first chapter had so much work put into it, it's crazy.
And it's free, so why not try it?

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>>8126438
>>8126426

Thanks for the info yall

>> No.8126460

half life is overrated and is boring

Yeah I played it once and enjoyed it once but thats about it. The story is all the game has to offer. There is no fun gameplay

>> No.8126461

How much more time consuming is Half-Life/Sven mapping compared to (Z)Doom?

>> No.8126463

>>8126454
If you are one of those people that takes in the level design and just hangs minutes in it, in the end it does not feel short at all.

>> No.8126464

>>8126460
sven coop is fun

>> No.8126496

>>8126279
She is both uninspiring and boring compared to 90s shooter characters, while being comfortably milquetoast compared to the obnoxious and overdone performances from other modern/new wave shooters; it’s like she’s in limbo.

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>>8126463
Well I certainly was like that for Half Life and the expansion packs, I love the Black Mesa research facility.

>> No.8126507

>>8126496
Devs should have just gone all-in with the 90's shooter vibe instead of trying to ingratiate themselves with modern sensibilities at all. Yes, that means tits.

>> No.8126513

>>8126507
They should’ve just given her some more character appropriate lines. That’s all.
There’s even a chance of that happening with the expansion overhauling the campaign - assuming the normie majority isn’t already head-over-heels in thinking “she’s so badass” already.

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I'm fine with Shelly being "okay". They could try different approaches with the next character or something, in the end we're playing with a floating gun.

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>>8126129
Made this last night. Progress on my Halloween map is slow, but ongoing.
Gargoyles swarm the room when you shoot, and a Revenant spawns when you press the switch on the left.

>> No.8126605

>>8125705
I mean 1337 h@x

>> No.8126609

>>8125801
Middle is health. The armor is on the left. Before you pickup armor you can see the little helmet on the left, arrow on the right. Tthe bars there just being for flair, really.

>> No.8126617

>>8126543
Looks rad, anon, but
>chandelier right under the curtains
One gust of wind, anon. That's all it takes.

>> No.8126621

>>8126617
I wanted something to block the player from being able to jump out the window, but that was when the desk still had a chair you could climb onto. I guess it's no longer necessary.

>> No.8126625

>>8126621
Couldn't you just make the window linedef impassable?

>> No.8126645

>>8126625
No, because Gargoyles fly in through it.

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So like how do I get good to be able to comfortably play brutal doom v21 on harder difficulties?

>> No.8126658

Bit of a stupid question, but what is the viability of the blood source code getting completly reverse engineered à la mario 64?

>> No.8126660

>>8126647
Not as much as it would take to play Babel/Babel monsters + Final Doomer or Hideous Destructor, so I wouldn’t worry about it. BD and PB are fun mods but nothing I’d take too seriously.

>> No.8126667

>>8126658
Outlook’s not good. Atari have the source locked so tightly I’m almost convinced they’re covering up the fact they lost it.

>> No.8126669

>>8126658
nobody cares about it that much

>> No.8126685

>>8126645
Make it just block players then

>> No.8126689

>>8126685
You can't do that in Boom format.

>> No.8126716

>>8125658
i've been playing Doom 64 For Doom II, it's really fun

>> No.8126723

>>8126542
>in the end we're playing with a floating gun.

That is a bit defeatist anon. the issues goes past her like that old man in the wall there.

>>8126513
The damage is done. I dont expect nothing at all form the expansion.

>> No.8126725

Limit-removing > Vanilla

>> No.8126729

>>8126513
I'm a normie boomer. I don't play retro fps for characters. I liked Ion Fury's guns, gameplay, map design and the cyberpunk aesthetics. I could care less about character I play with.

>> No.8126730

>>8126660
>play Babel/Babel monsters + Final Doomer or Hideous Destructor,
i dont know what this even means

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>>8126689
Of course you can

>> No.8126735

>>8126725
By definition.

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>>8126731
Not on my machine.

>> No.8126741

>>8126667
Has there ever been confirmation that the source code is even in someone's possesion over the past few years? I remember that around 2012 jason hall said he had a copy in some old forum post.

>> No.8126752

>>8126736
Huh. Are you on Boom-Boom or on MBF21? Because we're doing this in MBF21.

>> No.8126757

>>8126542
The ideal perspective to take.

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>>8126752
Just what I have available.
But it doesn't really matter because the player can't get out the window.

>> No.8126761

>>8126759
Update your UDB. I hope you know you can activate/deactivate map formats in the options.

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>>8126761

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>>8126762
Anon, will you press F6 in the main window for me?

>> No.8126820

>>Doom RPG series
isnt this just the same thing as skyrim or fallout?

>> No.8126828

>>8126820
no

>> No.8126834

>>8126730
You’ve never heard of those gameplay mods, then.

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>>8126129
I started making stuff and now I can't stop

>> No.8126856

>>8126409
It's an absolute must-play

>> No.8126868

>>8126226
>no mention of Duke 3D
Hail to the king of rosters baby

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>>8126868
>ctrl+f
>"battlelord"
still a pretty good roster otherwise

>> No.8126878 [DELETED] 

What did the schizo mean by this?
>>8126754

>> No.8126880 [DELETED] 

>>8126878
I was mocking the schizo, autist

>> No.8126882 [DELETED] 

>>8126878
>"LOOK AT MEEE"
simple

>> No.8126925 [DELETED] 

>>8126878
half life fucking sucks and influenced a lot of lazy assholes to make boring FPS games

>> No.8126926 [DELETED] 

is alf still in these threads

>> No.8126929 [DELETED] 

>>8126926
No, just some impersonator autist.
Now stop bringing attention and hopefully he'll kill himself

>> No.8126932

>>8124103
Anon why are you so fucking dumb
Are you a zoomer by any chance

>> No.8126936 [DELETED] 

>>8126926
no

>> No.8126959

half life fucking rocks and influenced a lot of creative people to make great FPS games like NOLF and FEAR.

>> No.8126968

>>8126959
FEAR was influenced by HL?

>> No.8126970

>>8126669
Wrong

>> No.8126971 [DELETED] 

>>8126925
HEV AND ECSTACY

>> No.8126975

>>8126226
plebeian taste

>> No.8126978

do any modern games have a serious infighting mechanic like doom?

it's the greatest thing, and it's so weird it's rare

>> No.8126981

>>8126226
>quake 1's roster is perfect
have you actually played it

>> No.8126983

>>8126876
ah yes, back when the unabomber scared the living shit out of the feds. Some trad prof in a wood shack. woopdidoo. our law enforcement is a joke.

>> No.8126986

>>8126968
Yes, zoomie

>> No.8126990

>>8126986
How? Except for being FPS games they don't have anything in common

>> No.8126995 [DELETED] 

>>8126925
>>8126460
https://desuarchive.org/vr/search/image/-GmvjnpCQfapcBmvXNalug/
Mental illness

>> No.8127003 [DELETED] 

>>8126990
Not until you explain why hl lives in your head rent free

>> No.8127007 [DELETED] 

>>8127003
I'm not Alf you retard

>> No.8127026

>>8126981
Play new mods such as Underdark Overbright, Punishment Due, Land Of The Lost and Dwell. You can achieve quite great gameplay with default q1 roster.

>> No.8127027 [DELETED] 

>>8126929
He's a halotard, so that makes him a hypocrite.

>> No.8127031 [DELETED] 

>>8127007
The AI

>> No.8127041

NEW THREAD
>>8127028
>>8127028
>>8127028
Leave your playground drama at the door

>> No.8127043

>>8127026
Not sure about the last two, but it's worth considering that Underdark Overbright was made with the Copper mod in mind. Included is a much needed change for the vore projectile, otherwise these guys are pretty draggy to deal with.

>> No.8127231

i'm making the next four OPs Half-Life themed and there is nothing you can do to stop me