/vr/ - Retro Games

You are correct OP.

>I dont know if yall agree this is the best Final Fantasy game.
But we do, only summerkids disagree.

It's way too easy IMO, but it beats IV by a long shot by not being such a fucking vanilla plain by-the-book snoozefest. I haven't played V yet, but for now this game is my favorite Final Fantasy.

>You will never see a 3D remake of V or VI because IV was overrated

>>812075
Agreed. Nobuo Uematsu's work in FF6-FF9 is all top tier though, even if 7 and 8 have aren't good games

>>812104
Its for the best. I will cringe looking at FFVI with teletubies 3d models.

>>812104
>wanting a 3D remake of FF6

>>812108
To be fair VII is not bad. VII is indeed a pile of shit.

>>812114
>VII is not bad
>VII is a pile of shit

I think you're missing an I in one of these.

>>812108
To be fair VII is not bad. VIII is indeed a pile of shit.

4, 7, and 8 had better music.

OPINIONS

final fantasy 4 is way better soundtrack wise.

>>812129
My nigga. Here's some FFVIII for you!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMYisFOaz1s

>>812075
This thread is too /v/ for me

>>812129
>OPINIONS
To bad its a shitty one.

One Wing Angel has nothing over Dancing Mad!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbXVNKtmWnc

>>812134
Nigga FFIV had a really simple composition. It wasnt bad but its like comparing a amateur cafe show with a grand orchestra. FFVI is considered Uematsu's Magnum opus. Even Uematsu himself said it.

>>812157
>17 mins
Wow, you have to think back then it wasnt as easy as today to make digital music. How long did it took for this soundtrack to get done?

>>812165
Uematsu worked for 2 years on this project. Back then it was unheard of to devote so much time for a video game soundtrack.

>>812162
I like VI's music as much as the next guy but...

>What would you say is your favourite of the Final Fantasy games you've worked on?
>Uematsu: [Without any hesitation.] Final Fantasy IX - both in terms of the game itself, and the music.

>>812179
"Final Fantasy VI was a sort of ending point for me. Not just the music, but the whole game. I thought, if I do this work for the rest of my life, how many more games will I be able to do? With the satisfaction and excitement I felt after finishing that project, I thought I had reached my primary goal, and could quit doing game music with no regrets."

—Nobuo Uematsu

>>812179
What's the source on that? Not saying it's wrong, I just want to read the whole thing. I've always thought that IX has a somewhat underrated soundtrack. I love it but a lot of people don't seem to tout it as much as other games.

>>812179
FFVI is his Magnum Opus. He might enjoy later games in terms of ease of work but FFVI was the one that pushed him over the edge as an artist.

>>812189
I loved FFIX, but FFVI felt more real. I felt the amount of work put into that game. It did not felt rushed like FFVII, wasnt a trainwreck like FFVIII or a re-telling of past adventures. FFVI felt back then like something more. When I played it back in 1994 I felt it couldn't get any better than this.

Unpopular opinion incoming:

6 was the pinnacle of the FF series. 7 and up have all been shit.

>>812207
While I agree that FFVI was indeed the best in the series. I wouldnt call VII shit. It was still good and IX was also good.

I'm going to do it. What order should I play these games in?

>>812180
I know the interview that's from ( http://www.nobuouematsu.com/gunh.html if anyone is curious) but I think he said that largely because it was done in 1995 and VI was his most recent project at that time, having no idea what he could do afterwards. At the time I'd say it would definitely be correct, but it seems over time and with as much other music he would do later he thought wrong. Hindsight is always 20/20.

>>812184
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/i_nobuouematsu_feb2005

>>812216
Later soundtracks were more technically superior but for me it felt like FFVI pushed him the hardest. Every note is so dense.

>>812214

If you're really going to play them all, go in order.

>>812214
Play FF6 and then FF7. They are considered the best by many and for good reason. They are also similar in many ways so if you like one you will like the other.

After that play FF4, its a bit hard so you might want to search for FF4 easytype. After that play FFV, considered by many the FF with the best class system. After that play FF9. Its a love letter to classic FF and a good game by itself. By this point you should be able to play the NES classics FFi-iii. FFI and FFII have a GBA re-release that fixes some shit so grab that. While FFIII has a re-make for the DS, IMO its shit so stick with the NES for that one. Now lastly we go to the shitzone. FFVIII is a pile of shit, but if you play all of the above you are ready for it. After that pile of garbage you can play FFX, which is consider by many the last true FF. Its not that good but a bit better than FFVIII. After FFX its all downhill from there. FFXI &FFXIV is an MMO so fuck it. FFXII is plague with executive medling and FFXIII, well lets not say anything about that one.

>>812207
That's actually an exceedingly trite opinion and one you'll find repeated everywhere from /v/ to gamefaqs to youtube comments.

>>812075
Disagreed. Both XI and XIV have superior soundtracks.

Also VI fags might like this little bit they had promoting a new mount.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8RuIXX4ntc

9 has a better soundtrack.

>>812270
>Disagreed. Both XI and XIV have superior soundtracks.
>comparing shitty mmos to the greatest rpg ever made
lel

>>812310
>Greatest ever
FFVI is a very good game, but the greatest RPG ever? Nah, man.

FF6 is top 3 objectively and certainly my favorite for nostalgic reasons, but 12 is one of the best JRPGs ever made in terms of overall gameplay, and 13 is the best of the series at all the things it's ever done well: graphics, music, and battle system.

>>812315
Says one who bringed shitty mmos into this discussion!

>>812319
>ff13
>best on anything except sucking

>>812323
Yeah...that wasn't my post.

>>812319
>but 12 is one of the best JRPGs ever made in terms of overall gameplay,

I agree with this.

This topic is so /v/ it hurts.
Anyways, VI isn't even in the top 3 Final Fantasies for me.

>>812165
17 minutes is nothing compared to his 22 minute ending theme.

>>812506
>>>/out/

I was thinking about giving the Stand Guard hack of FFVI a shot (http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/794/)...)...

Anyone here tried it?

Mind you I've already beaten 6 and am no novice to the series.

>>812640
Alternatively, does anyone know of any other good hacks or variants to VI? I'm looking for something as enjoyable, but different enough I don't feel like I'm rehashing the same game I've already beaten.

When does it get good though? For what I have played it's a little boring.

>>812796
gets good when characters fork to 3 different paths

>>812796
Gets good as soon as you turn the game on you pleb!

i like FF9 the best.
even if only for the fact that IS THE most beautiful fantasy world i have experienced.

the music, the cozy locations are fine.
only real bad point is how the battles are slow as fuck.

i often wonder, if FF6 is ever remade in 3D or in pre-rendered background, if it would be close to FF9 since some parts of it look like they're steam tech. dependent or industrialized

>best soundtrack in all Final Fantasy
4, 7, 8 and 9 are much better

>in all videogame
Miles behind Chrono Cross

>>812209
>>812207
If VII was good, it was only because it was still riding off the fumes of both VI and Chrono Trigger.

When I first played VII, it felt a lot like VI taken to its next logical step (3D, evolution of story, etc)... but that's it. Once those fumes evaporated, we got VIII.

QED.

>>812826
that part is terrible. I'm playing through it right now and I can't stand switching teams. I'm like 5 hours into the game and it still feels like an introduction. I want to go around killing bad dudes, not being forced to se the minimal progress of the bajillion characters of the game.
The graphics, sound and sotry are top-notch, but the gameplay is a HUGE flop compèared to FFV.

>>814451
>opinion
>QED

>>814464
The gameplay is not as deep as FFV. But the story development in top notch. All the characters have unique backstories and you feel for them. When you get magicite you will be able to customize your characters a bit more, but dont expect a FFV level of customization. This game is more like FFVII, well infact FFVII is pretty simmilar to FFVI.

>>812104
You take that back motherfucker, IV is awesome. Some of the best music in the series too.

>>817236
I actually like FFIV, it was my first Final Fantasy. But it got remade a bit to much. I mean why does FFVI and FFVII get so ignore while FFIV gets all the love?

>>814464

You're still at the start. You'll get to open world stuff soon enough. And when the world changes, you have basically a sandbox.

>>814464
>è
Frenchy cofirmed for shit taste.

>>817231
>>814464
Also I dont remember a game that had so many developed characters. Most rpg have one or two fully develop characters while the others are stereotypes. FFVI all the characters, except the secret ones, are developed.

>>817231
>>814464
Also, I dont remember a game that had so many developed characters. Most rpg have one or two fully develop characters while the others are stereotypes. FFVI all the characters, except the secret ones, are developed.

Which FF should I first play?

I used to play parts at friends houses, but have never played all the way through one. Which one should I start with and in what order should I play them? I know a lot of them are basically entirely different stories from eachother.

>>817314
I recommend FFIV or VI. Keep in mind IV is fucking hard, so if you dont want your ass handed to you grab the easytype version.

>y'all

"Y'all?"

Where'd you learn to talk like that?

>>817313
>green hair Terra
Why are the sprites so different from the artwork?

>>817314

Pretty subjective, really. I'd say start with 6 on the SNES. It's easy to get, and a decent intro.

Alternatively, 7. 7's not the best, but it's also a decent sampler of Final Fnatasy, although I find the graphics a bit hard to swallow.

>>817321
Maybe OP is a southerner?

>>817327
>although I find the graphics a bit hard to swallow.
Indeed back then it was mind blowing but it hasnt aged well. FF6 aged like wine while FF7 aged like milk.

>>817326
Too many blondes. In order to separate her from Celes. I think it was the right choice. Made her look more exotic.

>best soundtrack in all videogames

Nope.

If you did a tier-based competition, the last two remaining companies fighting for #1 would be Sunsoft and Konami.

Uematsu doesn't come close.

>>817314
Start with FF6. Its one of the best, if not the best. Its also one of the easiest.

>>817321
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJvVhDS0sRY

Gets me everytime rofl, so great.

God... I've never heard such an unanimous opinion of praise on 4chains... Goes to the show the summer is strong with this one. final fantasy vii is still the greatest game of all time you babbyies

>>817428
>says FF7 is the greatest game of all time
>call others babbys
lel