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Hot opinions australia-kun

>>8108236
I'm not actually him. I just wanted a fun genesis thread

>>8108229

>>8108250
Where is Rocky?

>>8108229
>>8108250

>>8108229
Platformers ARE normalfag games you stupid retarded contradicting fucking nigger dick sucker.

>>8108262
Racing, sports, rpg, action,are considerably more normies especially after nes era

>>8108268
Yet the genesis is known for racing, sports and action games. Keep contradicting yourself dumbass

I like the snes action games more, but so many are plagued by slowdown that they're only enjoyable in recent years with emulator overclocking or romhacks like SA-A or FASTRom

>>8108278
Was snes weaker than the genesis

>Super nintendo is literally just a jrpg console
This is a hindsight opinion. The library might look massive to you, but we missed out on most RPGs which were left in Japan. Adding on top of that, JRPGs were still niche, you wouldn't get the true explosion of popularity in the west until FF7, so most SNES rpg games besides FF and Chrono Trigger even in English didn't sell very much. But if you're just looking at rom sets and sheer numbers, things like popularity and region exclusivity don't matter to you, you just conclude its an rpg machine, like somebody concluding that the n64 is a wrestling machine because there's an unusual number of wrestling games.

>>8108285
The main-CPU was slower, but it could use enhancement chips. But most games didn't use any, so they were often quite slow. The earliest games weren't that well programmed because of unfamilliarity with the console making it worse.

>>8108229
>Snes is for normies I always felt
.thought ?
They both are you fucking dunce. The two most popular consoles of the generation in direct competition with each other. Everyone had one or the other.

>>8108236
What is this "Australia-Kun" shit?

>>8108292
holy shit, did this actually get released in the west? XD that's so racist

I'm really not sure which I'd go with if I had to go with only one console
Guess I'm lucky to not have lived through jt

>>8108229
Only idiotic MovieBobs try and act like console wars are a thing worth caring about.

>>8108297
Have to admit the super nintendo is way more normies

I never played a mario game because someone told me they were for babies as a kid so I got a genesis and now it's too entrenched in my mind
Are they even good

>>8108348
SMB2-3-World are really solid games. 3 is overall the best and a bit challenging. World is a bit of a tech demo for the Super Famicom and it's the start of the series getting easy.

>>8108503
Is the all stars cart a good way to experience it

>>8108508
Yes, no, maybe. They mess physics up a few times because they remade the game rather than port them. I find the All-stars games a bit ugly looking at times too. Plus it adds saves. Holy hell, trying to beat SMB3 beginning to end without saves is a real challenge.

>>8108343
Nah I don't. It's two sides of the same normie coin. Only mascot almost as popular as Mario is Sonic.
Find me the kid with the NeoGeo or Turbografx and I'll show you a fucking loser. That's your non normie shit.

>>8108298
name a harder game of that gen than SA1 Gradius 3

normies aren't some kind of otherwordly pure evil creatures that exist solely for your suffering. they are capable of recognizing a good game when they play one
if a device sells more than the competition it's usually because it offered to consumers more AND better games, that's why the nes sold more than the pc engine, why the psx sold more than the n64, why the switch will sell more than the ps5 etc.

>>8109381
For the angsty poor babies who constantly cry about them they literally are. Sad but true.

>>8108298
fuck me i can hardly handle it WITH slowdown

>>8108328
You have the wrong opinion on an anonymous board = you're the local shitposter. Niggers here really can't realize they're on a fucking anonymous website and not their reddit where they can check post histories all day.

>>8108229
By normies do you mean white people? When I was growing up only stinky beaners and baboons had sega. It was the poorfag console

>>8108229
>Super nintendo is literally just a jrpg console.
Emutard opinion. Not knocking emulation, just saying you're a youngfag who wasn't there and you don't care to research the time period at all. Try reading a scan of an old video game magazine instead of some internet asshole's must-play roms list.

It's not even that good at JRPGs. The Mega Drive may have less JRPGs than the SNES, but the ones it has are far better. Once one includes the incredible PC Engine CD library of JRPGs, it's a total wash, the SNES loses in both quality and quantity.
In the end, the SNES was just too bottlenecked to be competitive in most genres, and the game library suffered majorly as a result, and more and more people are starting to realize this was the case and that the alternatives in the 16-bit generation, including the Mega Drive and PC Engine, were actually far superior.

>>8110237
>but the ones it has are far better

They most definitely aren't. Phantasy Star 4 is very good, but saying it is "far better" than what's on SNES is ridiculous.

>>8108229
>Ristar, sonic trilogy, dynamite heady, rocket knight
But all of those are utter shit except for Sonic 1 and 2.

SMW alone is greater than every Genesis platformer combined.

>>8110193
ill give you one thing
nogs fucking loved NBA JAM. and to be fair the genny port of it is fucking flawless, so if you were black and liked vidya back then its almost a certainty it was a genesis you owned. i dont even like sports games that much, but between that one and NHL 94 id be lying if i said i hadnt played a fuckton of both. outstanding multiplayer games

that said, i grew up in a pretty white town and it was a pretty even split between SNES and genny
it really just comes down to what kind of games you preferred
the genesis was just much more adept at pushing sprites faster, and more of them. this meant that its action games, shmups, beatemups etc were just outright superior to what was available on the SNES
not to say that SNES didnt have good games in those genres either, but comparing FF2 or 3 to SoR 2 or 3 its no contest
final fights 2 + 3 at least cuz LOL no multiplayer in 1 limitations become brutally apparent the moment youre playing 2-player and have 3 enemies on screen the absolute limit in final fight without sprite duplication (see FF3s infamous "joelevator" screen for an ex)
game grinds to a halt
only way to get SoR2 to start performing like that is to put in the mania code and start spawning as many enemies as you can

>>8110258
lol every single game in that greentext you posted is better than SMW
even SMB3 was better than SMW
now if you said SMW2, id agree with SANIC and ristar fucking off
but dynamite headdy and rocket knight are fucking great

also
show me one single 2D game, on ANY system that even comes close to alien soldier in quality, art design, depth of mechanics, challenge, fucking anything
PROTIP: you cant

>>8110281
Stunning level design...
Simply brilliant...

>>8110307
ruh-roh wahoo-bros...
we got too cocky...

i dont even into SANIC all that much desu, but this considering S2 and SMW were contemporaries, its pretty clear whos the winner here

>>8110348
That zone is literal filler. There's like 1 enemy in the whole place and like 2 places you can even die.

>>8110360
so youre saying that the weakest level in sanic 2 is better than 90% of SMW?
see i knew we could find a way to agree on something

>>8108229
don't forget gunstar heroes, shinobi 3, streets of rage/bare knuckle triology, puyo 2, and phantasy star 2 - 4

>>8108285
>>8108292
genesis/md definitely runs smoother and can handle more of a workload, but snes/sfc has more color depth and background layers plus more robust sound sampling with reverb, so i guess they both have strengths and weaknesses

>>8108561
the arcade version of gradius 3 is even harder

>>8110241
the phantasy star games were the best jrpgs of their time so it kinda blows they get overlooked for being md exclusives

>>8110348
people love to shit on sonic's level design because it doesn't match contemporary conventions but i think exploring the stages and taking a different path every time is a lot of fun, i always discover something new

>>8110360
casino night zone is one of the more gimmicky zones (it's basically a bunch of giant pinball and slot machines) but i don't think it's a bad thing that each zone is unique

>>8110385
i feel like the modern take of
>"wtf i thought this gaem was supposed to GO FAST??? y do i have to do platforming? ughhhhhhh......."
is just fucking retarded
for one, there IS always a fast way through the levels, you just gotta find it and more importantly, not fall off of it
two, no shit, its a platforming game. of course theres platforming sections
it strikes me as kids who grew up on the adventure series where its mostly "hold forward to FAST" and/or "spam homing attacks to win"

now im not gonna die on that green hill, as i think sonic is mostly just a simple 1-button platformer, and the genesis has loads better platformers in its library
but tbf, thats all it was designed to be:
a simple platformer that appealed to the lowest common denominator

>>8110404
i always just saw it as a place for you to load up on lives/continues
after it, the game ramps up in difficulty quickly, so its nice to have a zone where you can get ready

Bloodlines > Redditvania IV

>>8108348
Consider this: When Sonic was released, the entire industry shifted to attempt to clone Sonic. Nobody attempted to make 2D Mario clones again, not even Nintendo themselves, who abandoned the formula until 2006. That ought to tell you all you need to know about the "quality" of Mario games.

Reminder that Australia-kun isn't a Sega fan either, he's just a guy who had a shit childhood with eurocomputers and a huge hateboner for Nintendo and Japan in general.
Reminder that SNES and MD are both the best era of video games and if you didn't have both growing up in the 90s, you only had half a childhood.

I beat this game 5 times this weekend on Nightmare difficulty with Tired stamina and 3 web cartridges. I'm pretty good at it.

>>8110458
objectively true
while we're at it, hard corps > contra 3

>>8110458
Too many autoscrollers, boring bosses and slowdowns out the ass, where's the blast processing?
Super Castlevania IV>The New Generation
>>8110720
Both of those are great.

>>8110720
moreover, md rocket knight games > snezz rocket knight

>>8108229
>Super nintendo is literally just a jrpg console
And Genesis is a childish platformer console
>>8108239
>I just wanted a fun genesis thread
By starting it off with low-tier console war bait

Fag.

>>8110745
Chill out

>>8110745
>And Genesis is a childish platformer console
No, it's the chad shmups console.

Inb4 PC Enginefags try to claim their shmups were better, which is false.

>>8110653
Since you mentioned it, there is also a slew of excellent WRPGs and strategy games to be found on the Amiga that similarly vastly outclass what is to be found on the SNES. And that's not even to mention the 3D games, which easily run on stock Amiga hardware, where similar 3D games require a cheating and expensive expansion chip on the SNES, as, despite the SNES being four years newer, it's CPU runs at a mere 1/3rd the speed when compared to ALL it's competitors.

>>8110752
>Inb4 PC Enginefags try to claim their shmups were better, which is false.
Both are excellent, and both are leagues better than what the dog slow SNES offered.

>>8108278
Usually, SNES emulators have a option to reduce slowdown. Some games are finicky and don't play nice with it, but most of them run fine, you hardly need those hacks. However, they're probably useful for flashcart users, so they have their public.

>>8108331
Never released here. It was (fan)translated not so long ago though, so, depending on your point of view, it reached the west.

>>8109381
I agree, but I do find them more susceptible to hype and marketing. In the end, they're just being used. What upsets me is how the large influx of money coming from decieved normies can shape the industry for worse, rewarding derivative games with good graphics alone.

did his step-dad rape him using a Super Nintendo when he was a kid? Explain this trauma

>>8110809
>f-zero shitposter was australia
I knew it.

>>8110348
My only memory of that level as a 8 year old is being fucking miserable and wanting it to be over. I hated it everytime.

>>8110752
>it's the chad shmups console
Except that there are only a few of you around. Most people sweat over Sonic and similar garbage.

>>8110809
why don't mods just range-ban him?

>>8110824
did you trygoing to the right?

>>8110842
Not him but a lot of that level was waiting around for the sand to fill up rooms, it's very boring and slow.
I still think Sonic 1 was the best one.

>>8108278
Damn I wish I had played it like that although even with the slowdown still a cool level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA5bbdHcM5M

>>8110841
m_ds only ban you for saying mean naughty racist words
being an giant insufferable faggot is totally kosher

>>8110850
Most of those shitposts are deleted, you would thin mods would get tired of deleting his shit over and over, it'd be easier to just range-ban him.

>>8110853
desu idgaf
hes just shitposting
i cant even imagine getting upset over it

>why?
hotpockets get off on picking up shit. scatological tendencies. such cases
plus if they ban all the shitposters outright, they wont have any """power""" to wield over anon

>>8110841
>why don't mods just range-ban everyone who doesn't suck Nintendo's dick?
You do realize there are many of us? And there are increasingly more every day. This is our board, it's the nintendrones that need to go.

faggot console war thread
you will never be a 90s kid

>>8110907
there's a lot of console warriors and anti-nintendo people, that's nothing new, but australia's posts are pretty easy to recognize
>no! it's many of us!
Yeah, I bet there's a lot of "you" inside of your fractured brain.

>>8110910
noooo but you MUST hate the super nintendo! please stop liking it!

>>8108229
That picture just needs S3&K to be complete

It's always fascinating to see what shitty bait threads janny allows while simultaneously deleting on topic threads.

>>8109381
>they are capable of recognizing a good game when they play one
It depends on how much effort the game requires of them at a base level

I got memed into finally getting a genesis after all theses years. It sucks, I hate it.
Then I realized I don't like anything other than nintendo.

I feel the 32X and Mega CD have untapped power. I've always wanted to make some big metroidvania style game for those systems.

>>8110910
some of us are actual 90s kids

>>8108285
the CPU is weaker, the graphics are a bit lower resolution but have higher color depth and it has a rarely used 512x448 mode. both consoles have 2 background layers. the SNES has several effects the Genesis cannot do like sprite rotation and scaling. Sprite capabilities are similiar but the SNES only has a fixed 16k of sprite RAM while the Genesis does not impose any limitation on how much of the video RAM can be used for sprites. The SNES uses sample based sound with automatic reverb you can't turn off, the Genesis has a simpler PSG.

SNES games can also use two different cartridge ROM speeds, referred to as FastROM and SlowROM. About 40% of its games are the former. FastROM games have a CPU speed of 4Mhz, SlowROM is 3Mhz.

>>8108229
What's that thing on the controller ports?

>>8111616
looks like an infrared sensor for wireless controllers

>>8111364
Correction, SNES can rotate and scale a background layer. It can only do sprite scaling and rotation through software (usually with an addon chip powering it), like the Genesis.

>>8111627
SNES so shit, everything needs ad on chips on that shitware

>>8111697
who cares, the games are good console warrior

>>8111194
not really a "x-vania" game, but try popful mail for the CD
cool 2D ARPG with nicely animated FMV cutscenes

its en vogue for people rag on the CD for being a shitty add-on full of exclusively trash FMV games like nighttrap
but it really had quite a few excellent pieces of software for it. most of which people are largely unaware of due to how irredeemably shit/dated those interactive movie/FMV games are
those types of games were only a small minority of its library. of course devs were interested with experimenting with the new FMV tech, and a lot of times this resulted in total dogshit. but most just saw it as a way to have more room for data, so that you could have high quality audio, or just bigger games in general

>>8111151
Pedophilia is also welcome here but say the T word and get a ban.