/vr/ - Retro Games

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About time, you shit.
We lost 5 positions since last thread. Get moving!

Have you lads ever played any of the Choro Q games?
They have some issues, and tend to be rough around the edges, but the cheery atmosphere and general SOVL really brings me back to simpler times.
Playing through HG4 currently, pic unrel.

There are so many Japan exclusive SFC mode 7 racers.

>>8071805
Welcome to my turds. Enjoy.

>>8071851
Insane to think this came out around the PSX's release.

>>8071851
wait has it been called a suzuki jimny and not jimmy the whole time

From the people who made Super Pinball: Behind the Mask.

>>8071948
yes

>>8072025
fucking hell, my entire life has been a lie

>>8071851
Cute!

Name one (1) racecar.

>>8072043
Uuuh Punto?

>>8072043
Soldat

>8071948
>>8072028
Jimmy was the name of the GMC version of the Chevrolet Blazer.

>>8072167
unfortunately it's not a case of mistaken identity, i'd always read the jimny badge/spare tire cover as 'jimmy'
at least 25 years of my life have consisted of me calling those cars jimmy and not one person has corrected me, fuck

You guys should give this game a try: Fun gameplay, great soundtrack and cool monsters but nobody ever talks about it

US Tuned version of this is great, why did you lie to me

>>8074361
Play more games.

>>8072043
Nissan Primera.

>>8074361
>cars handle worse
>still garbage tracks that are mainly straight lines

I like auto modellista but it is far from great.

Bros... I finally did it.

I've only played kart racers and outrun in the arcade. Whats a good 'realistic' racing game that I can try to get my feet wet?

>>8074843
git gud

>>8074858
>realistic
Oh well.
How "realistic" do you want it?

>>8074864
I guess not too realistic but something thats just easy to play I suppose. I know thats broad but I don't have much knowledge of racing games

>>8074872
Grid, Gran turismo series (mainly 4 is more on the realistic side).

>>8074872
You might want to start with arcade racers then. There's some basic things you'll want to pick though.
Do you want a 2D game or a 3D game?
Do you want a game that tries to be realistic or something that has its own unique mechanics?
Do you intend to play it using manual transmission (actually pressing buttons to switch gears) or just go with automatic and just use the gas and break buttons?

>>8074909
Been wanting to try GT since I recently got a ps1
>>8074910
Definitely something 3D and preferably something that has the option to choose between either manual and auto. Something realistic

>>8074960
You can try TOCA as well.

>>8074960
don't know if it's too high a barrier but Sports car GP may be worth a look as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBOeIZ9cLkE

>>8071851
Love this game!

holy FUCK this game is hard bros

>>8074858
Try Gran Turismo 2. The licence tests seem like a steep difficulty curve at first but they actually teach you the basics of simcade driving.

OH JANE

>>8076417
If one reads the text that goes with the demonstration GT 1 and 2 will actually teach you the basic principles of racing in general - not simcade, just actual racing. Hell that was the entire point of getting people who played GT to become real racers and it sorta worked.

Protip: you can learn the theory but no sim available (/vr/ or otherwise) is actually realistic.

>>8076428
>no sim is actually realistic
This goes on forever, but plenty are realistic, none are just 1:1 real. But not being 100% doesn't mean you don't learn valuable skills from it being whatever percentage you believe it to be. I get what you mean, but this instills the ideas into casuals that every single game is ultimately useless to learn from because sim elitists keep saying everything is arcade. Even real race car drivers use something for training.

>>8076435
>every single game is ultimately useless to learn from because sim elitists keep saying everything is arcade
Even if we roll with this and declare everything arcade so what? If you are playing Burnout (for example) you still need to follow the same basic racing principles you do in any sim of choice - proper braking before corners, taking a correct racing line etc etc all apply. The only game series i've played where these principles simply do not apply is ridge racer.

>>8076443
I'm agreeing. But I don't get the point of everyone feeling the need to declare everything unrealistic, as if it matters because all the driving principles still apply, like you said.

Name a more soulful racing game on PS1 if you can.
https://youtu.be/hj50xK8m9vo

>>8076549

>>8076549
Name a more reddit adjective than calling something "soul" if you can.

Are there any fun futuristic racers that aren't agrav outside of stuff like Extreme-G, PoD? Ideally something closer to Motorhead or a "regular" car racing game.

>>8076602
Fleek

>>8076619
Deathkarz, megarace, San Francisco Rush 2049, rollcage are just a few that spring to mind.

>>8072435
I played it for a while, expecting a racing pokemon game. Starts out interesting but got bored, probably because there isn't that much monster-raising elements. Might pick it up again sometime, though, thanks for reminding.

>>8076605
/fit/

>>8071805
>Don't be shy: ask questions

Okay, I'll bite. Which games in that pastebin list do NOT have rubber band AI?

>>8076783
Ridge Racer (rage does but only with the single car behind you to punish you for fucking up), Sega Rally, the TXR Drift games (normal TXR has the boost mechanic in 3), I guess Daytona and F-Zero don't either. The later Wipeouts do, not sure about the earlier ones.

>>8076605
It's hell if you get a super long track like Grand Valley

>>8076602
Ludo

>>8076602
toxic, problematic, fascist, literally, wholesome, TIL

>>8076602
reddit

>>8074843
Well done man. Bet that was a rush.

overrated game but honest thoughts on it? personally i think its ok, ug1 and hp2 are better

>>8077248
What the fuck is that cover art

>>8077251
an early pre release idea for the box art

>>8074687
oh shit you can run the pc versions of toca at modern resolutions now? why the fuck am i still emulating the psx ones
>>8077248
i feel like the open world doesn't really add much to the game, races are still good though

>>8077248
The map is trash. The open world was cool back then but now it's apparent how boring it is to drive and race through. And the URL tracks are especially boring. Underground 1 had the track design almost nailed, the problem was that there weren't enough of them and they were all too short.
The physics are OK. The game feels a bit too slow but I guess most of that is just down to the map.
Something I always found bizzare is that the villians' cars don't have a recognizable design like the Eastsiderz from UG1 or all the Blacklist drivers from MW. It's just generic black cars. Most of the time you race against them you don't even notice.

>>8077248
>>8077289
The worst sin is being required to have a certain Style rating on your car to progress. In a game that's all about customization and personalization, I have to choose from a narrow pool of parts because some dev decided that only these particular parts look good. And funnily enough, they don't.
Not to mention, the game does a terrible job telling you that this is a requirement. If you don't know this, all that happens is that races stop appearing on the map and you don't know why.
Other than that the career is a bit too stretched and the way the chase cam tilts around is also very annoying.
One thing it did well were the engine sounds. They still sound great and they were infinitely better than UG1's shit sounds

>>8077284
Yeah, SilentPatch for TOCA 2 came out pretty recently

>>8077284
>why the fuck am i still emulating the psx ones
Probably because you haven't heard of our lord and savour Silent. https://cookieplmonster.github.io/2021/05/09/silentpatch-toca-2-touring-cars/

>>8077248
The city unlocks in the wrong order for the gameplay which is what kills pacing.

>>8077292
>>8077293
fuck yes, time to track down a copy

>>8077248
I really really really dislike the handling. Feels way to sluggish.

>>8077302
ok fuck if anyone has a non-iso copy or just the loose game files can they link them? i can only find isos that refuse to mount

>>8077334
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/toca-2-touring-car-challenge-a4u

>>8077350
seems like this one is working, thanks

>>8074687
certified hood classic

Your last racing game

You played it with what?
• Joystick
• Controller
• Wheel
or other?

>>8078009
Controller like god intended.

>>8078009
Controller

>lmao eddie
>lmao low res cgi eddie

>>8078009
Controller, with motion controls.

>>8078304
based DS3 user

>>8071805
GPLaps will be racing at old toronto tomorrow in Indycar Racing 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blFu2b1toQg

also myabandonware has the full packs for both Microprose Grand Prix trilogy and ICR

Why is the analog deadzone so fucking bad in GT1/2?

>>8076783
rush if you disable it in the settings

>>8077248
>honest thoughts on it?
it doesn't have cops

>>8078849
Old Indycar tracks are soulful

>>8071865
ooo what's this?

>>8071851

I passed on the one chance to buy this while I lived in Japan, boxed and all.
I went back hunting the stores for it since but could never find it, biggest regret.
It's an absolute gem of a game

>>8077248
Was fun when it came out but has aged horrible and is a filthy normie magnet.
Hot Pursuit 1 is far superior imo

>>8079884
Pre-2000 motorsports in general was soulful.

>>8079917
Shutoku battle '94

what the fuck my camera is stuck looking backwards in toca 2

>>8081847
Check your bindings.

>ChoroQ OP pic
God I'm gonna cum so fucking hard. FUCK Micro Machines, FUCK Hot Wheels, real chads know about Penny Racers and all the kino that series produced.

>>8083236
The whole series is comfy as shit.
including the tank games

>>8074361
Capcom can't make driving games

>>8076605
>oi you got a license for that m8

>>8077248
Sequel promised open world but delivered nothing on it. Yes, you can drive leisurely to larp and discover shops and collect random change on the floor, but the track designs suffer greatly where UG1 gives you a nice rush. UG2's open world promise did give you Outrun true open world street racing but it's just an optional side mode, let's be honest Midnight Club 3 does it better in every way.

>>8083697
That commercial is hilarious. The car rolling so intensely like it got flipped over by the Hulk.

>>8083710
UG2's map would work if it unlocked in reverse order. As in, the hills section you get last because of its extreme length and little connection to anything else it is actually fun to drive in a fully upgraded car and the little harbour area that actually unlocks last would be great as a second unlock where the twisty roads would be a nice challenge increase for your low tier (probably barely upgraded) starter car. This wouldn't "fix" the game but it would go a loooooong way towards smoothing out the gameplay.

when does the game get good

>>8085160
At the end of that highway.

>>8085160
When you play TXR 3 but even then good is stretching it a bit

>>8085674
I don't like how that tiger is smirking at me - fuck him.

>love me some /vroom/
>decide to upgrade headphones wioth amp and dac
>immediately test out classic need for speed games
>mind is blown by how much more I can hear and how the OST's come alive
>start thinking of other classics with excellent sound
>spend an entire afternoon just soaking in the sounds of games and not actually playing them
Honestly I had far too much fun catching ambient sounds and the like that really aid in immersion. My next stop will be some fps games to see how well my headphones handle the bass of a shotgun blast.

>>8085574
Nah I actually really like TXR 3, Even Drift 2. Zero is just stupid hard and even more infuriating. I don't mind most cars being competitive against me such as team leaders, wanderers and even regular cars. but it feels like most are fuck you levels of rubberbanding and just boost by me.
also locking parts to mileage on cars is dumb.

>>8085160
When you get to stupid high HP.

>>8086454
I can't stand how quickly and how much performance drops within a day, especially when you use the Boost in the setup.
That and the physics making turning feel like you're pivoting a box around the center point

Fuck's sake, I missed the new thread.

>>8071817
Sadly this.

Any good bicycle downhill racing?

>>8088138
Downhill Domination

>>8086934
did you turn the steering sensitivity to +15? actually makes the car not feel on ice.

>>8085160
it doesn't

Is there a reason you get so many damn Mugens as prize cars in GT2?

>>8089954
Well they can't all be skylines.

>>8089954
Completely baseless speculation but I think some of them are placeholders for cars that originally were supposed to be in the game but cut. Purely going off of the fact that the Mugen CRX III is the only prize car that appears twice, both times from unfitting events (Historic Cup, 80s Cup). Looking at it more closely almost all of 80s Cup rewards are just 90s Mugens, save for the R30 Silhouette so that kinda adds to the theory.
Or maybe they realized they made too many Mugen cars and couldn't make a Mugen dealership for whatever reason, which is probably the more realistic explanation

>>8090035
The first idea doesn't sound too farfetched. God I wish GT2 was given the extra time it needed
.

Any worthwhile /vroom/ing for GBA? I've been enjoying v-rally the most from what i've tried. Surprised how good it looks really. A lot of other games either suffer from unnatural physics or low debth of view. Kind of undecided whether the F1 game fits this description or should i just get better

>>8090429
F-Zero and MK, obviously.
GT Advance is a pretty fun mode 7 racer if you're into those. If you tolerate that give choro Q advance a shot too, the wonky physics get a bit more tolerable with the SD cars.
If you like flat shaded polygons there's lego drome racer.

>>8090429
I've had fun with the surprisingly good version of NFS Underground and Top Gear Rally

>>8090429
V-rally isn't as good as Top Gear Rally IMO. That game controls well when you get into its rhythm, uses an actual 3D car and actually has drivable roadsides as you slide around and cut corners instead of hard walls the instant the roadside begins. I think it's a better rally game.

>>8090194
>>8090194
Going from GT1 to GT2, it's really obvious that the former spent years in development while the latter was rushed out a year later.

>>8085160
when you finally unlock the third part of the highway after beating like 6? of the thirteen devils
my issue is just i cant seem to figure out why the handle is SUPER sensitive no matter what I tune

>>8076602
kino

I started playing TXR 3 this weekend, never heard of the series before and I'm loving it. Started on Tokyo, went to Nagoya and got to Osaka last night. I like how I'm being able to progress with the car I started with, even though I picked it only by looks, as in one that didn't look particularly fast.

any reason why TXR Zero hard crashes PCSX2 Emulator randomly?

>>8093427
TXR 3 does sometimes too. And it also corrupts the save with that

>>8093583
huh I played through it twice and never had it corrupt on me, just crash once.

>>8091427
Okay you're right, It does feel a lot better once I defeated dejected angel. I also didn't realize how important transmission was early on. probably would have had an easier time if I upgraded that. It just wasn't as important in TXR 3 so I didn't bother with it. On the handling, It feels better if you change it to +15 (along with accel.) in the settings. like it's not more sensitive it just doesn't slide around or over react as much. and tapping the brakes instead of holding them prevent the car from going sideways, sometimes. On the Xbox one controller I also adjusted the skip dead zone to .352. feels a tad better as well so adjusting that may help.

>>8093724
>Great Pinball
Stop hitting guardrails, anon.

Any racing games where I get to ride funny looking vehicles? I know only these two:

Uchuu Race: Astro Go! Go!
S.C.A.R.S

>>8093729
tell the AI to stop ramming me into cars, those fuckers literally will cross 5 lanes to smash me into a truck.

>>8092075
Can't decide if I keep pushing with my starter car to get an engine swap or if I buy a new one

>>8093960
what is your starter car? you can go pretty far with some of them. I cleared only 2 cities in part 1 before the FTO wasn't enough.

>>8093970
It's the Alcyone. I just finished clearing the starter cities with it

>>8093729
Mine right now is Prudent Collision devil
Wonder what that could mean

>>8094108
>Prudent Collision devil
Keep up the good work, anon. Those faggot cyclists deserved it.

>>8093757
How funny is funny? Is speed punks not weird enough?

>>8077248
I'm playing it right now.
It's fun. Sure there are no cops or muh intense action but it's an OK game. Rubberbaning is way more chill compared to UG1 or MW and Carbon. Customization is retarded. Sure there are a lot of parts but you're forced to whack on the most ridculous stuff on your car just to get to the another stage. Overall the game feels rushed. Probably because BlackBox was forced to release games every year. Therefore it just feels empty even with all rice in the world. Also once you get the hang of it gets kind of too easy. As a nostalgia magnet it's cool but it definitely a casual tier imo. Wish me luck in a final race frens.

>>8095592
>that overlay

>>8095601
I have big hands.
Planning on grabbing a controller once I get home.

>>8090429
https://gvaliente.itch.io/varooom-3d

>>8076574

>>8095592
>phone emulation
anon no

>>8076574
Based.

>>8094129
Now it's Patient Sinking guy. These names are too good, specially your rivals. I always have a laff

>>8071805
Man god bless yall, let's keep this thread alive. Choro Q is amazing, only discovered it after looking for comfy racing to put on the PS2's HDD.

>>8076371
What's that midtown madness thing?

>>8095592
Fuck that boring huge empty open world. I never replayed it and never will. NFSU and Prostreet are the only ones that I replay once in a while.

>>8096152
I'm sorry if that made you upset. I'm just overly confident about it (pic rel). Don't worry I usually play with a real controller and on PC but right now I don't have one so I have to improvise.

>>8096243
I think that the only reason it feels boring is because Underground 2 was rushed. They decided to turn it to 11 but still had only a year to release it so to meet the deadlines they had to cut some corners. Here's a perfect video that explains it in full detail:
https://youtu.be/xJ_K6c0jMBM

>>8096389
Just don't play while driving.

>>8085816
true connoisseur

>>8096234
The wonder of discovering that game as a kid was unlike anything else.

What non-racing games do you all like driving around in? I could drive around in the PS2 GTAs for hours and hours, especially 3 and VC.

what the fuck is this

>>8071851
Kat's Run

Super cute.

>>8072021

The camera is a bit odd but nice colors nonetheless. I can only imagine a late gen F-Zero.

>>8085674
>Wacky Wheels

I'm glad this awesome DOS game is not forgotten.

>>8096601
A speed camera iirc.
>>8096595
The GTA games are an obvious choice, but I also remember enjoying the driving in Jak 2-3.

>>8096601
Yeah there's random speed cameras across the map that have a chance of triggering during a race and sometimes during freeroam but the odds are much lower. And very rarely the camera triggers but it says SAFE and you don't get a fine. I guess this is supposed to represent the camera not catching the license plate
It's an absolutely retarded feature that thankfully only exists in Zero

>>8096601
That UI is so ugly I think I don't wanna play Zero after I'm done with 3

>>8096672
The thing I dislike the most about Zero is how the widebody kits leave the wheels exactly where they are stock. It looks so goddamn ugly.

>>8096237
Yes it is MM2.

About TXR3. The engine swap is able to make a starter car viable against the corvettes and vipers and etc? I'm sitting at 907mi on the odometer and getting my shit pushed in, not sure if I keep pushing for the swap or get a better car. But desu I haven't changed already mainly because I've only unlocked boring stuff that I'm tired of seeing in other games, like supra and skyline.

>>8097264
If you swap 2 cars with the same engine they get the same amount of power. As long as you go for something like the v8 or the i6 you're fine powerwise.

>>8097264
Wanderers have the cooler cars. like the De tomaso pantera.

Is LeMans on the Dreamcast a meme?

>>8085674
Soul... home

>>8098314
At least it was until I over-revved everythang up.

>hear femoid friend listening to song that's popular on tiktok https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tPTrgGptU0
>definitely recognize the sample in it from pic rel
>relisten to the full soundtrack 3 times and don't recognize it
Am I insane?

I liked racing games as a kid, but I never really played any outside of the PS1 racing games I grew up with. What are some other fun racing games with that arcade flair like PS1 racers had? Any platform will do.

>>8098850
After Gran Turismo's success a lot of racing games started going for adding a ton of content and they kinda lost the arcade flair.
There's a ton of stuff to try regardless, but do you want them to be 100% "arcade style"?

>>8098860
I suppose by arcade flair I mean 'not like a simulator.' I like racing games where you race through cities and forests with lots of turns, not so much realistic tracks in stadiums or fields. I don't know if I'm conveying this well, I'm an ESL.

>>8098867
No, I get what you mean. Try the PC version of Re-Volt and the early NFS games. PS2 has tons of stuff, you could give Tokyo Extreme Racer Drift 2 a shot to see if you like the setting (similiar to touge max) and the handling. There's the Battle gear series, which handles a lot better and has, again, a similiar setting to touge max.

New GPLaps videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR8zrSwFsz0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od9sz1RzmM4

Bonus for ICR2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZgxcE_H5BM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JK_M5r_HZU

>>8098860
not really true, in 6th gen theres literally loads of amazing racers...

>>8098867
battle gear 2 (tokyo road race in pal)/3, outrun 2, project gotham racing series, flatout 1/2, rallisport challenge 1/2, r;racing evolution, ridge racer v

>>8098838
insane no... retard yes.. that samples the famous and monster classic jungle tune circles by adam f

https://youtu.be/LDRNYUucKvA


>>8098310
dunno what you mean but its certainly a looker on vga output

>>8099139
There are loads. I just thought he wanted something like Ridge Racer 1.

Flatout 4 is kinda fun.

>>8099352
Wasn't that the mediocre follow-up and not the unspeakably bad 3rd one?

>>8099367
Yes. Flatout 4 is essentially flatout 2 made years later with 3/4 of the budget.

>>8099117
I need to give ICR2 a shot, I got a craving for open wheel ovals and I never tried anything similiar.

>>8099595
it has even F1 mods

>>8099612
Just play GP3/4 for F1 instead

>>8099616
GP4 sucks dick, GP3 has no old F1 car mods if i remember well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTAl2cI6YAI

lookin for a racer where i start with some car and have to race to earn or buy parts to upgrade it over time. More customization the better, want to avoid games where you just "have" everything and tweak it, or where you just buy or unlock new cars as upgrades - focus would be on customizing my car. JDM cars would be ideal.

Racing Lagoon seemed fucking great but only the first chapter is translated.

>>8099624
What's wrong with GP4?

>>8099627
So...need for speed underground?

>>8099683
yeah basically, but thinking more along the lines of Initial D / japanese game instead of western

>>8099612
I'm already set for F1, I have GP2 or modded rFactor for that. I just really wanted to give oval racing a shot, the stuff I've seen seems mental.
>>8099627
TXR series.
You can get by in Racing Lagoon by translating a japanese guide and playing through that. It's worth it.
http://aka.gmobb.jp/hsdrpg/rewa.html#night

>>8099716
ty anon. Any TXR game in particular i should start with?

>>8099729
There are a ton of them and some only released in some regions with different names. There are 3 mountain pass focused games and 3+2 highway ones, with 2 games coming out on the dreamcast, one getting remade for PS2 and an xbox360 game.
Between the retro ones, TXR Drift 2 (mountain pass racing) and TXR 3 (highway racing, where the series started) are usually considered the cream of the crop, but Zero (also highway focused) is also worth playing, and any of the older games in the series might have some weird cars you might like.
The Euro and JP only prequel of Drift 2 (Kaido Racer in yurop) has a ton of Euro cars in it for example, while Zero (and the drift games) has hondas, which 3 lacks.
Check what kind of setting you prefer, and go on the igcd pages to check if one of then has the cars you want if that matters to you.

>>8099716
then you will love ICR2, there is a crapton of community made stuff that will take your time.

>enthusia
This game feels really good to just turn laps in. The main game mode is kind of lame though.

Finally got the engine swap for my Alcyone and I have to say I'm a bit underwhelmed

>>8071846
In hg2 turning isn't symmetrical and one way drifts and the other way retains grip. It's very annoying.

>>8100808
You sound very enthusiastic about it.

>>8074858
GT 2/3/4. By modern standards the simulation isn't as good but it's more than acceptable. They also have the best career modes ever made.

>>8099139
based adam f anon

>ЯR: Retro Racing / The Real Retro Racing General
Does the OP need a title with repeated words? Just call it Real Retro Racing Thread.

>>8100829
fug
I realized something was off but I always shrugged it off as being due to the car changing direction rapidly.

>>8100808
The way the car behaves seems a bit more convincing compared to GT.
Would probably be a blast with a wheel.

>>8102078
It's definitely loads better than GT.

The lack of hot hatchbacks in TXR3 is appalling

>>8100847
I've never played any GT game, is there any car customization? Not ricing shit like in nfsu, but stuff like aero kits and performance upgrades.

>>8102414
Not much point in using hatchbacks while highway racing outside the smaller loops. Plus the game doesn't have Hondas which removes 75% of the japanese hot hatch market. TXR Zero has a bit more of them.
>>8102424
Yes, the entire series has performance upgrades and 1-2 you can turn your car into the race version aerokit-wise.

>>8102414
you got the golf.

>>8102424
Yeah. The cars handle like boats but it's probably the best controller based racing sim for singleplayer.

>>8101716
ovg died anon

>>8104592
Not that Anon but wow, about fucking time. That place was awful.

>>8102424
Performance mods: Yes, that's the entire basis of the series.
Visual: Extremely limited.

>>8106578
The race mod system in the first 2 games is really SOVLful imo.

>>8106760
The removal of racing modifications from later games is a fucking crime and I have no ideas why polyphony did it.

>>8106775
I'm guessing because it would've been too much work to remodel hundreds of race mods from the ground up in addition to the car models they already had to do? The entire history of the series since GT3 boils down to "man this is so much work with all these cars, is there any way we can cut it or recycle stuff from the previous game?". Removing the race mods beginning with the PS2 titles, reusing PS2 car models and engine sounds from the PS2 era in the PS3 games (lots of bad press for that one), and I haven't kept up with it but I'm pretty sure they copypasted a ton of stuff between the PS3 and PS4 as well, it's just not as apparent anymore because improvements between gens are increasingly dwindling.

>>8106794
This and probably also licensing issues. Almost all of the race mods in GT2 are based on Super Taikyu cars. The only Super Taikyu car since then was the Drider Civic in GT4.
And as cool as the race mods are, the truth is they weren't really used much, nor was there really a reason to do so. You had to spend the money for all 3 weight reductions, and an additional ~90k credits and all you'd get outside of the different look was the ability to adjust the aerodynamics. The generic wings from GT4 served the same purpose and with GT having a livery editor now the different look isn't that big of a draw.

>>8106775
They cannot make a RM version of all 700 cars, or every unique car

Do gameshark codes work with retroarch? I look was looking at the GT2 widescreen code and it looks great.

>>8106835
Granted GT2 didn't have a race mod for every car.
The increased complexity in the car's 3d models must be also kept in mind, I'm sure a GT3/4 car took a ton more time to create compared to the GT2 ones, which makes creating a ton of racing mods way too time consuming for Poliphony.
Really wish they kept them in tho.

The lack of visual modifications for some cars in TXR 3 is more appalling than the lack of hot hatchbacks.
I wanna rice the shit out of a shitbox, swap the engine, humiliate vipers, skylines, corvettes

>>8107081
Some cars get more visual mods, especially the more "common" stuff (your various Supras, Skylines)
You can do engine swaps, but you will need to reach a certain mileage with the car.

>>8107073
I counted (someone else's database), it has roughly 400 race mods for the roughly 500 road cars, plus roughly 100 already race prepped cars, so roughly 600 cars overall if you don't count race mods and roughly 1,000 if you do.

>>8106829
>the truth is they weren't really used much, nor was there really a reason to do so
If you're a casual shitter then you'd be correct, just use one of the overpowered [R] cars you've won at some point, but personally I hugely appreciate how much it expands the selection of cars to race against other [R] cars in a believable fashion, it allows for better fine tuning of power output to match your own skill level against the AI (because if you drive a fixed 600 hp [R] car against 600 hp [R] AI you'll just leave it in the dust in corners), and I also enjoy the suspension, gearing and differential fine tuning necessary when you build up your own race mod.

It is just a compressed image slapped over the skybox but these sorts of things many older games used always amuses me for trying to reach past computational limits.

>>8107185
Plus tuning your "own" racecar to perfection feels a lot better than using any of the official ones to be honest. As you said, it's also a bit harder, you don't have the same aero, yours is probably a bit heavier etc.
Makes the GT500 events in 2 a lot more fun imo.

can someone with an x86 os send me the files of this eax setup?

>>8107657
https://mega.nz/file/G1hgTLJS#c64BjhrFH37K4K-nFNYUIr6gf96EUTMGSe5JqKWznss

Why is it that, to this day, there's no "arcade racing game engine" that people can mod to their hearts' content? Doesn't even need to have its own content, just a basic engine modders can port any model, map, audio, texture or mechanic into.
Imagine porting Ridge Racer models to it and playing with, say, Split/Second drifting mechanics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=py57aUS8kWw

>>8107657
>>8107665
someone?

Been going through the GT games in chronological order. Is GT3 still worth playing? Seems like 4 is a straight upgrade on every level.

>>8109921
It has all the cool F1 cars in, and has a bit less filler compared to 4, all the endurance events are doable with no B-spec. The cars feel a bit lighter vs 4.

>>8107496
Yup exactly. Feels really good to have to use [R] cars at first and over time improving your driving and tuning so much that your can use your own fully upgraded race mod and eventually race mods that aren't even fully upgraded anymore. For my next playthrough I'm intentionally limiting myself to 420hp/t and about 20% below the event hp limits for a challenge.

>>8110484
Besides rallies by the way because they're unbalanced fucking shitshows.

>>8107496
>Plus tuning your "own" racecar to perfection feels a lot better than using any of the official ones to be honest.
While I do think turning a 328i into a beast is a lot of fun, pic related is pretty much flawless.

>>8110494
Are the rallies that bad in general? I thought I was just shit at them.
>>8110556
The mine's cars are completely broken.
For me it's the Evo that weighed as much as a twingo for some reason.

>>8110573
>For me it's the Evo that weighed as much as a twingo for some reason.
I bet cars like that is why a vehicles weight gets unevenly weighted against in later titles when calculating their performance rating.

I don't feel like this deserves its own thread so I'll ask here..

Some months ago an anon posted a link to Daytona USA 2001 that had been modded to use the original arcade/Saturn soundtrack. I burned a CDI back then, but I'm setting up a GDEMU now and it doesn't seem like I saved the cdi.

Anyone got an idea where I might find that again?

>>8110573
>Are the rallies that bad in general? I thought I was just shit at them.
I don't know, you tell me how I'm supposed to win rally races against purpose built rally cars with insane grip when any other car has fuck-all for grip on dirt tires, including a race against what's easily the quickest car in the game. It's managable if you have an identical or equal rally car as the AI, but as soon as you're driving your own race mod you have to cheese your way to victory by wallriding even against regular rally cars, and the Escudo and Cultus are pretty much only beatable if you drive one yourself. Unless there's some dirt driving magic I still haven't figured out after twenty years, but I highly doubt it.

>>8110556
>>8110573
The virgin Mine's vs the chad turd.

>>8110593
It just makes sense to be fair. With a light enough car you can win some of the hp unlimited events with less than 250hp
>>8110643
It's true, you always feel like you're missing something in the rally events. Doesn't help that the car just seem to keep sliding in one direction without gripping every time you turn.

>>8110664
I wish I could find a pic of the Tom's Supra

>>8110669
>With a light enough car you can win some of the hp unlimited events with less than 250hp
That's a stretch, at least against [R] cars. Least powerful car I've ever won a GT All-Stars event with was the 353 hp Dodge Concept Car with a fully upgraded race mod (not the LM Edition) because it goes like hell for some reason, otherwise I need at least a 420 hp RX-7 or something.

>tfw hardly any super gt or jgtc games
>>8110692

>>8110692
Looked for it as well, but besides the Castrol one I could only find GT2 screenshots of it.

>>8110701
I think it is the events that are merely HP limited where lower weight is easy modo. HP unlimited can always be absolutely destroyed by shit like slapping a fucking off turbo on the GTO twin turbo and slamming 800HP through the wheels. I remember beating (in either GT1 or 2) some sort of endurance race on special stage route 5 with said monster GTO and never pitting because even with bald tyres so much power meant the a.i could never touch you.

>>8110724
You can just take a powerbarge to unlimited events, but I enjoy trying to find out what the least powerful car I can beat them with is.

>>8110704
You forgot the soundtrack to this car
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObnqEfk2fR8

>>8110701
I guess my post was a bit misleading. Yeah, you can't win stuff like GT All-Stars but you can do something like the Turbo cars only event.
I need to try GT All-Stars in a shitbox again.
>>8110704
Thank you anon, but I was referring to the Tom's bodykit for the road going Supra. It's inspired by that car in particular though.
I wish we had a decent Super GT or a Super taikyu game, but I guess GT is kinda that. The early-mid '90s era looks particularly cool.
>>8110705
I remember seeing it once but I didn't have any luck finding it again, plus the race car clouds the search results.

>>8110770
not quite the correct one but WEW

>>8110770
I love this one so much, it looks like a RR4 car done up like this.

All I could find lads

And, to finish it off

>>8106874
Yeah just find the script to convert them. I've been playing GT2 with the widescreen and 60fps on RetroArch BeetleHW.

>>8110770
I can see that they were going for that f40 look.

>>8110837
Post your .CHT please anon. Also what settings do you use for aspect ration for RA and BeetleHW core?

>>8110936
This should work
pastebin.com/r40CPJi4

>>8111470
I forgot to add just set up BeetleHW like regular disable the widescreen hack and force RetroArch in the general video options to not do Core Selected aspect ratio but 16:9 or 16:10 to match your screen

apparently the special cars are immune to the speed cameras due to having variable license plates.

>THE GLITCH:The game has a serious flaw in it. In order to beat the game you have to race Racer #600.In order to race him you need to beat all rivals, which includes wanderers. One wanderer in particular requires 1 billion dollars in your funds before she races you.The max amount you can earn is just 5 dollars off of the requirement.This is a translation error that wasn't corrected before released.It can be solved with Gameshark or another code breaker system

luv jank
'ate well polished games
Simple as

>buttons change function on every menu
That's annoying.

>>8114176
Not so enthusiastic about it now are you

>>8114176
wait there's a snow level? what the fuck? I played this game pretty heavily and never seen it before.

This game is peak ludo. The music, the colors, the speed, the announcer. Raw unaltered FUN. I'm 10 hours in and I can't get enough.

>>8114190
The third person view is too close and the bumper cam isn't too good when you're trying to see where you're going. Cars are unpredictable a lot of the time but I'm not that good yet.
>>8114204
I think it's a reskin of another track with the grip level reduced.

>>8114221
10 hours is about 9 hours more than is needed to beat the game.

>>8114241
Yeah I know, I just keep vrooming again and again. Right before going to work, right after going back from work, I just fire up my ps2 and fucking vroom.

>>8114247
Based. It's so simply fun as a game.

>>8074843
Incredibly based. Congratulations on achieving this.

Can you recommend me some good games in which you compete in a championship, with points and stuff, like F1?
I really enjoy ReVolt even though its cups are short, they give you points each race depending on where you finished.
I don't really care if it's arcade or sim racing.
Thanks.

>>8116449
Grand Prix 2 for the whole GP experience

>>8116560
Thanks a lot, anon, that game looks pretty good.

By the way, I just found out RVGL supports custom cups since the end of 2020.
https://re-volt.gitlab.io/rvgl-docs/cups.html

I made my own "Ultimate Cup" which combines all four cups into one sixteen track cup, but also uses sixteen cars instead of eight. I like it when there's more cars, but I left the other parameters untouched to keep the spirit of the original game.
https://pastebin.com/vCY20AbG

>>8116652
Oh fug. The 16 cars thing sounds pretty cool, helps with the already chaotic nature of RV. I was having a fair bit of fun last time I replayed the single player cups, might give this a shot once I have some time.

>>8116694
LOL, yeah I love how chaotic RV can get. I just modified the ultimate cup to look like an F1 championship, with the modern points system. I also tripled the number of laps in each stage. I just wish that I could change the "you have to finish at least third" part, I think it'd be really cool to experience having a few really shitty races and then having a comeback.
https://pastebin.com/kfHHrgAg

>>8116747
If that's the kind of racing autism you're looking for, go straight for GP2-3-4. Climbing positions in a shitty backmarker car and blowing the engine in the last few laps is a rollercoaster of emotions only that game seems to catch well. It uses the old F1 point system though. No idea if you want something more like modern F1.

>>8116850
No, I actually prefer older F1, I grew up watching 2000-2008 seasons. Fuck DRS especially, and the recent sprint qualifying also.

>>8116936
GP2 models the 1994 season, minus two obvious omissions in the driver department, GP3 gets the 1998 season and 4 has the 2001 season. You can mod all three to your liking, I'm currently playing 2 with a 1991 mod.
Also consider f1 challenge 99-02, it runs on a early version of the rFactor engine, really moddable and great fun in general.

>>8116936
I enjoyed the 2008-2013 era, but everything after the introduction of the V6s turned to shit.
I hate m*rcedes so much it's unreal

>>8116652
Loads of cars in re-volt gets mental very quickly.

>>8071846
track design in Choro Q is either really good or really bad the worst are full of successive 90 degree turns

Re-Volt race or at least time trial series when
>>8117281
It's not a thing I've ever considered while playing them, but you're right. I liked some tracks in HG4, but they seem designed to work together with the janky physics to fuck you over at times.
The racing tends to be pretty lackluster in general anyway.

>>8117318
which tracks did you like, I remember liking sky highway the best.

>>8117383
Mostly Good old american and the one in the first island with the cruise boat and the sequence of chicanes.
Sky Highway is pretty cool but goes a bit too long imo

>>8116850
pierluigi martini
the legend that almost got pole in a minardi

>>8117391
Those are really comfy, through now Im reminded of how mesmerised I was by Seaside paradise L back in the day.

playing the first forza on xbox, enjoying it way more than expected, it dicks all over GT imo, way way better sense of speed and physics

>>8114241
what kind of island was used as inspiration for the background?

>>8117703
Forza Motorsport 1 did a good job at remixing the GT formula. It also beat GT at their own game by having an actual Japanese downhill track.

>>8117693
The games in general, are supremely comfy.
>>8117595
Martini being ride or die for Minardi through almost the entirety of his career is really soulful. Wish the team was still in F1 tho.

>>8116946
V8 era was actually amazing
It was arguably the most competitive era of formula 1
But then the fia had to fuck everything up with the v6 hybrids and they don't care how boring it is because a british driver is winning every race

>>8118378
>they don't care how boring it is because a british driver is winning every race
he isn't now

>>8118390
It only took 7 years.
gimi

Just watched Initial D and want to play a game with an AE86 in it. I know the Initial D games are themselves bad, so what do you have for me vroom?

>>8118603
TXR Drift 2 and the Battle gear series.

>>8118603
Tokyo xtreme racer drift 2

>>8118603
>I know the Initial D games are themselves bad
The /vr/ ones? Yeah. But Special and Extreme Stage are great.

>>8118390
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43HCYSXZ9GI
/vroom/ games for this feel?

Anyone know if TXR is better on Dreamcast rather than PS2? I was going to get TXR Zero and TXR3 on PS2 but then I realized how shit the PS2 controller is for racers as opposed to the amazing analog triggers on Dreamcast.

>>8071805

Bump

Autosage? Why?

>>8119350
triggers dont really matter in a game like txr
also the dreamcast analog stick is shit which makes it harder to control the car

>>8119360
irregu fun - prease understand

>>8119360
Two week bump limit.