/vr/ - Retro Games

First I recommend you to don't waste time on things you don't like. Second this is one of the best controllers ever made. Third is still made because is the prefer option for fighting game fans. First and only Street fighter I have finish was Alpha 2 with this controller. Even these controllers have been made for PS systems. The D pad is that good, the other I can think that is as well rewarded as this is the Neo Geo Pocket & color stick. Also the bottom layout is great.

>>8103360
They aren't manufacturing them, retro-bit is while paying for a license. They also aren't anywhere near 1:1 reproductions, even without the bluetooth shit.

Here are other versions. Image from the guy that post these images.

>>8103381
I love the Sega Playstation.

>>8103381
how fucking stupid. it certainly won’t be annoying using the face buttons instead of triggers or doing 3D movement with the d-pad.
if you’re gonna use the saturn controller as a template for modern consoles, at least edit it so that it works completely for said consoles.

>>8103360
How's the quality of these newer Retrobit controllers?
I really want a second controller for my Saturn and it's really rare to find anyone selling the Sega originals separately without a console in my country for some reason.

>>8103379
that doesn't look like bluetooth to me

It's not expensive at all to mass produce a controller without any rumble or analogs in it. They wouldn't do it if they didn't make money off it.

>>8103360
retrobit saturn sucks.
the face buttons don't travel smooth and catch, the triggers are shit tier hard plastic and have no travel at all. The pad is inaccurate and nothing like a saturn controller.

>>8103407
The dpad has issues with both durability and precision.

>>8103387
vgh... what could have been...

Halo product.

>>8103387
Eternal rival of the NEC Nintendo. It was a good timeline.

>>8103379
Stop acting like they're a terrible experience to use.

And if you're being that much of a bitch, just buy a Wingman SD.

The 8Bitdo M30 is the best third party saturn style pad. Shit on 8bitdo all you want, they deserve it sometimes, but you can't deny the glory of that controller.

Why are all modern controllers so ridiculously overly clicky

>>8103407
inconsistent - I'm not sure if it's just batches and runs or wireless / wired quality differences but one can feel amazing with just the right pressure while another feels looser for example.
>>8103467
I opened up one and it didn't seem that bad. It uses the SEGA style internally rather than the (I think more common) Nintendo style one. Maybe they won't fare well if you fill them with cheeto bits from cheeto-covered hands I guess.

>>8103401
Obviously you only use the pad for games that would suit. Like fighters or arcade games. For games with triggers and 3D movement you would use something else

>>8103375
I've always liked the look of that variant.

>>8103407
bought a wireless one two weeks ago, works pretty good so far but yeah I'm aware of the dpad issue... don't know if they ever fixed that but I'm being extra careful with mine.

I'm fond of the 6-button genny controller, too. I already have a blue transparent usb wired and I want to grab a wireless red variant when it releases next month.

2X3 controllers are so damn weird and cringy.

>>8103375
>>8103865
>OVER $150 for the regular black
>Ps2 fats are $70 and slims even more
>Super nintendo going over $60
>ps1 games in box are insanely expensive
>Ps2 prices going up even for common shit
This is awful man

>>8103360
Are these controllers good are there any wired Sega Saturn USB controllers that aren't pieces of shit?

>>8103910
yeah, on Playstation 2 since SEGA manufactured them themselves

which is why they now cost over 200 dollars in-box, 100+ loose. Crazy shit.

>>8103927
Bro sell me one of those controllers in that pic.

>>8103946
not my pic(s), they were shared on /vr/ years ago

>>8103972

>>8103978

>>8103381
>>8103927
>>8103972
what is the point of controller collecting? having a 2 or 3 extras, i could understand for the sake of if the one you already have breaks, but what is the appeal of having 50 that are undoubtedly going to sit in a drawer forever?

>>8103981

>>8103986
Remember when they sent you a free USB saturn controller if you signed up for a PLAY Sega pc browser subscription service?

>>8103981
Good game.

>still waiting for dual analog saturn and dreamcast recreations from retrobit
what's their excuse these days?


>>8103984
posting about it on /vr/, of course
and then selling them off on ebay for big bucks

>>8104018
I can almost feel the flimsy plastic. Why can't nobody get it right in this time and age?

>>8103375
>First and only Street fighter I have finish was Alpha 2 with this controller.
I would not consider you any kind of authority on this matter

>>8104032
i have one of the non-analog stick ones they made. it feels pretty good honestly.

>>8103360
>Fucking why?
Gullible fools buy them?
>There's no goddamn way they still make a profit off these awkward hunks of shit
They need to replace the captcha with an IQ test

>>8103978
Very nice anon. Love the right one.

>>8103972
Here have a new pic I just made for this thread.

even sega acknowledges that the saturn is the real sega console not the dreamcast

>>8105191
How much for the purple one. I will literally suck your dick.

>>8105191
Christ, what don't you own?
What do you do for cash?

>>8105191
>>8103972
nice, I've just got the white one with the multi colours and the black one

>>8104072
>They need to replace the captcha with an IQ test
good, then we wouldn't have to read your retarded posts any longer

>>8103623
too bad they don't do a wired version and the 2.4GHz is always out of stock (or OOP?).
bluetooth one is laggy, which the retrobit bt ones don't suffer from.

>>8105649
>and the 2.4GHz is always out of stock
is it?
have you checked amazon, it's in stock where I am an I also definitely recommend it

>>8104018
this fucking abomination is all i ever wanted
why is it so hard for someone to deliver
can't a fucking chink make it at this point

>>8105654
completely sold out in Amazon Europe and UK

>>8103360
>insults one of the greatest controllers of all fucking time

filthycasual.gif

>>8105645
>no u
Back to le tiktok zoom zoom

>>8104018
>its been 84 years

>>8103994
Not him, but I remember the offer for this, at least. Damn, nostalgia trip.

>>8103360
>and Dualshock 3 is discontinued
>oh not? haha, just kidding... or am I?
>market is fucking flooded with knock-offs
>DS4 has drift issue
FOR FUCKS SAKE

>>8103467
>>8103407
Got two Retrobit MD controllers.
First one's DPad got janky after probably like ~80hr of playtime. Really surprised by the Dpad quality.

Otherwise really good controllers. There's not much to choose from so will probably cuck up and buy a new one eventually.

>>8103984
15 years from now as you continue to mentally degrade after the passing of your last living parent you will open that drawer and smile

>>8107272
I didn't come from whatever background you think I did

>>8107275
I’m pretty sure you didn’t come from whatever background you think you did

>>8103994
>Remember when they sent you a free USB saturn controller if you signed up for a PLAY Sega pc browser subscription service?
I do remember, I also remember being very disappointed when I found out that said free controller was made with very low quality parts (then again maybe that was why they were giving them away for free).

>>8107272
idk man whenever I open a drawer like that I just think "good god I was so stupid spending money like that all those years back"

The original USA Saturn controller is the best.

>>8108172
crazy how complex this thing is internally

>>8108172
Is it fuck. The shoulder buttons break too easily, the p pad is terrible, it's made of weaker lower quality plastic.

The usa controller was fucking terrible.

U gona claim the gc controller is the best controller ever made too??

>>8103876
holy shit that color looks amazing
thanks for telling
def gonna cop

>>8108172
lol fuck no

>>8105191
Sell me one of your controllers based counter top bro. I would be honored...

>>8103375
man the pocket color stick is so godlike.

>>8106528
I just want a good quality Dualshock 2.
Impossible to tell at a glance the difference from the end-stage manufacturing ones where the plastic feels flimsy and the internals are less robust.

>>8105240
You are looking at the only two I have in that color. Had I thought the purple controller would be in limited quantities, I may not have used it as much as I did and maybe taken better care of the boxes (the cards/stickers are fine). It is nice since it goes with Darkstalkers.

>>8105285
A home and a working vehicle. I am still in the food service industry, and I've added Doordash as a side hustle to try to make rent, but it adds so much wear and tear on my vehicle.

>>8105391
Very nice. The white controllers that go with the white Saturn tends to have the L/R buttons clack instead of the click I liked from the black US version. Fortunately, they did go back with the clicking kind for the USB release. Good news, the new wireless ones OP mentioned also uses the clicky L/R.

>>8108381
I rarely ever use the UtraRacer64. I only have a couple bootleg or 3rd party controllers, which I cannot get rid of. Give those new controllers a try, people seem to like them.

>>8103623
> Shit on 8bitdo all you want, they deserve it sometimes

I read this here every once in a while, could you or someone else explain it better to me? I recently had the opportunity to get an SN30 Pro wired (dogbone shape, no handles) for a affordable price and... It's fine. I wouldn't kill for that controller or put it on a pedestal, but it works decently for retro gaming. I was expecting pure shit, based on what I read here, kinda got surprised there. I'm using it to finish many games I had already beaten, so I can compare it well against other controllers. While I can understand why someone don't like them, I can't fathom why the hate. Is it one of those cases people hate on something just because it got famous?

>>8103885
speak for yourself. It's better to have the extra buttons and not need them. 6 button gamepads work for 4 button games too....

>>8110883
>white Saturn tends to have the L/R buttons clack instead of the click I liked from the black US version
hmm, you're right, they're kind of a loose sort of tap but the black one kind of feels like a mouse click

>>8111581
also I say white but pulling it out now it's more grey

>>8110883
bullshit, we all know you're some fucking saudi prince

>>8112314
How so? He's probably been collecting for years like a lot of us, and got most of this shit when it was still affordable.

>>8104032
Because
A. Cost
B. Material restrictions (ESPECIALLY plastic)
C. Planned obsolescence

>>8106528
>DS4 has drift issue
DS4 comes with a absurdly low deadzone that you need to change after a while. Most people won't notice any drift until a few weeks/months of use though.

>>8112408
My bro had to replace/fix/send in 4-5 of those damn things, and all he does is play FFXIV. DS4 is their worst controller by far, and for them, that's saying something.

>>8112417
I've had one rev2 DS4 that has thousands of hours of use and no issues.
>all he does is play FFXIV
That explains why, he's shoving it up his asshole and throwing it about like a gay yiffing retard.

>>8103910
I have a Sega official (but still manufactured in China) USB Saturn pad. Works great after 5 years, my controller of choice for those retro indies on Steam

>>8112437
I think he would literally murder furries if they were in his presence, and stop lying, faggot.

>>8108172
>The Saturn analog pad is the best
sorry about that typo folks

>>8112441
I think you need to have a talk with your "brother"

the sega saturn has the only good dpad ever made, there's people buying them to take them apart and install the dpad into joycons.

>>8112465
I respect your opinion but no

>>8110883
>pink
What the fucccckkkkk

>>8112450
it's good, not great
I was never fond of the analog stick used, every thing else felt right... how did they take this same design and fuck it up on Dreamcast I'll never know.

The black Saturn and its controllers are so ugly. White all the way. Though original grey is ok.

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>>8113930
I guess western markets had and have a thing for black, to make it look more like "serious" home electronics and less like "toys". It also makes dirt and grease less visible...unless your case is piano lacquer. I'm more a fan of the grey original.

>>8103927
>>8103972
you should make some tier list of quality or someshit.

>>8113930
>>8113952
Black and Grey are the least likely to look bad with age though in comparison with the white which easily yellows. I think the western black look is pretty slick and I prefer it over my white saturn. I had a black a while back, and it matched my stereo equipment.

>>8113952
I like the black systems. White looks nice too but a lot of them haven't aged well.

>>8114113
>>8114114
Retrobright or other plastics bleachers exists

>>8114113
I have a soft spot for a little yellowing. Makes it feel really retro. That's probably weird as hell though. I need to retrobrite my Saturn but I do not feel like taking it apart without having a spare.

>>8103360
>best D-pad out there
>comfy grip
>wEiRd
>nO pRoFiT

>>8114132
Yeah i'm not about putting chemicals all over my systems.

>>8113924
It's perfection for 2d games, the regular Saturn pad cramps up my hands sometimes. For modern/3d controllers look elsewhere

>>8114980
Apparently you can use an ozone generator to fill a container with ozone gas, and as long as it sits in direct sunlight the two will interact and cause the plastic to whiten. I'm not sure how effective it is because I only saw like one video about it, but there's potential.

I'm guessing all those Saturn repros are stuck with clicky shoulder buttons for accuracy? I got the M30 recently and was so relieved it had mushy shoulder buttons.

>>8103381
no granite this time? :(

>>8104018
>dual analog Saturn
In my heart of hearts I know they will never ever fucking deliver.

>>8104018
where can I buy it? As a Dark Souls & Sekiro player that would be useful

>>8115993
>>8116296
It's been like 2-3 years since they originally announced the Sega-licensed controllers, and they've delivered on everything EXCEPT the Dual analog and Dreamcast versions they said they would make, which apparently are still "in development" despite previously targeting a release in late 2020.

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>>8104018
its not fair its the perfect controller and i cant have it

>>8116385
>sticks that close together
>perfect
Lol

>>8116385
Just get a wii classic controller its the exact same thing but without the useless c and z buttons

>>8112387
This stuff new wasn't affordable, I was looking at these Sega Playstation controllers then, they were never cheap.

>>8116380
>cable still coming from the bottom

8bitdo m30 controllor is real close to the original Sega Saturn unit. I don't understand why they don't make a Sega Saturn RF wireless dongle, what I really want is a playstation wireless dongle that works with the m30, would make the 2d games the ps1 has so much more playable

>>8116606
have you tried the retrobit dongle?

>>8116615
I have not, but I dont think the retrobit dongle will work with a 8bitdo controller

>>8116620
probably not but they are both 2.4ghz, worth a try for someone who has both

>>8116524
I think the 6 face buttons is what is appealing
But I think it’s a hindrance on games that aren’t built for it

>>8106528
I find it difficult to find genuine DualShock 3s probably because they arrived late and most people had Sixaxis instead. It is the same with the PS1, where there are very few dual analog controllers, but at least they made more DualShock controllers with the PSone.

>>8111581
There is the Victor Sega Saturn pads which are grey with the colored ABC buttons.

>>8112314
If that were the case, wouldn't my phone/camera be better?

>>8113902
I only have one in that color. It is the same one repeated in all my pics. It cost me around $19USD back in 2016, but since I like using these controllers, it was worth splurging for.

>>8116715
The fake ds3s are all over eBay and Amazon. So glad I bought 2 new in box when they were cheap. Same for wii and 360.

Retro Fighter and 8bitdo make good replacements for just about every retro console. That new ps1 and 2 controller from retro fighter looks great, I hate the stock Sony dpad.

>>8116715
>There is the Victor Sega Saturn pads which are grey with the colored ABC buttons
Nah it’s the normal one but it’s PS1 grey kinda

>>8116741
I play all my PC games with a DS3 controller that I found in the trash, it's a really great controller for emulators too.

>>8116752
Eh, I really dislike all the DualShock dpads

>>8116741
I noticed that too. For both DS3 and DS4 on amazon. There was no reason for the bootlegs to have differences before but for some unspoken reason they did make those easy to spot differences back then, but now they are a bit too subtle or you'll have to open them to verify authenticity. Aside from the bootlegs, there are lots of alternatives for the Sony ones, like these for tiny kid hands.

>>8116745
Some of those Saturn pads discolor nicely. I have one which turned to a chocolate brown and I think it looks great.

>>8116524
>useless c and z buttons
Please leave.

>>8116759
I don’t think it’s discoloured, I just don’t think it was ever truly white

>>8116759
Yeah, tons and tons of diffrent models. I like the Namco driving one the most. I don't have the collection you have but I got a few cool items like the ant it cool saturn controller.

As far as the Chinese clones go, even retro game stores are passing out of box clones and OEM. They play dumb when I point it out but I can tell immediately from how the sticks and buttons feel compared to the real deal. If the Chinese put like 2 dollars more of plastic and parts they could sell it as a replacement for way more then the clones go for

>>8116754
I have a Saturn to USB adapter from Mayflash for that, the problem is that the Saturn pad only has Start, it needs a Menu button.