/vr/ - Retro Games

Scared Stiff btw I've never touched a pinball machine in my life.

the addams family. hitting that sweet spot and seeing Thing pop out to grab the ball was so satisfying

Are virtual pinballs worth it for retro plays?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifLe6zRU8C4

How to find pinball and pinball tournaments in your area:
US, Canada, Australia, Japan, Finland, London
https://pinballmap.com/
Worldwide:
https://pinside.com/pinball/map
Europe:
https://findapinball.com/en/

Tournaments:
Depending on where you live, there may be a facebook group for players in your area.
You can also find tournaments near you here:
https://www.ifpapinball.com/calendar/

Pinball Simulators that will give you a free virtual pin or two as a sample:
Pinball Fx 3 (Sorcerer's Lair, Fish Tales)
Zaccaria (Time Machine)
Pinball Arcade (Mary Shelley's Frankenstein)
Stern Pinball Arcade (Also Frankenstein)
There's also Visual Pinball, which is a freeware pinball simulator.

How to become Good at Pinball (wholly optional):
https://www.deadflip.com/tutorials/ (techniques in gif form)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-WQLGFMr97DnxeE1Rmi-wAwa-Vm7D-7i

Creature from the Black Lagoon

the arcade in my area has attack from mars but ive only played it in person a few times i mostly play on pinballfx3

Not a video game, there's no video, fuck off with this unrelated shit and btw the only good pinball video game is necromonicon

>>8078336
check the sticky for this board.
also modern pinball machines do have video.

>>8077004
Arabian nights

I was playing Iron Maidens pinball last week and I quite liked it.

>>8077004
>Who are you?!
>I'm Batman
>Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight

what's the difference between a bad pinball and a good one?

>>8078901
Indiana Jones has a gun to shoot your ball giving it no control. That's bad.

>>8078901
Any number of things. Here are the things that generally make a game good:
Layout (how the shots flow together, how they feel to make, etc)
Code (the objectives and rules specific to that table)
Toys (unique interactive playfield toys)
Art, sound, voice acting, animations

Like a movie, some aspects of a pinball machine are easier to understand and appreciate than others.

You can read reviews of pinball machines on pinside if you're curious. Here's TZ, for example.
https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/twilight-zone/ratings

>>8077041
Based.
It is still cool and edgy to pretend hating the Addams?

since day 1

>>8077474
man i played some Dragon's Revenge last night because it's apparently the same dev team but that game sure feels wonky. like, it was fun to discover some of the secrets of a new board but they seemed to juice the physics like crazy. feels like a game that was playtested by the devs and no one else.

>>8077056
They aren't the same obviously, but it's a good tradeoff if you want variety for way cheaper.

>>8079630
the art is a bit underwhelming desu.

>>8079630
i cant stand it nor twilight zone, not enough flow for me.

>>8080284
Well it's a Lawlor game...
I like it and usually can't stand Richie games.

I'm still a huge fan of the 70s pinball. Before all the excessive electronics.
Pic is one of my favorites from then, appropriately named "Memory Lane". It's for sale if only I had a room for it.

>>8077004

>>8080469
Aren't EM pinballs EXTREMELY limited and repetitive?

That haunted house one with the mini-table inside it.

>>8080939
Some of them. But it's like the difference between Tetris and Super Mario 64. Super Mario 64 makes tetris look "limited and repetitive", but they're both great games.

>>8077004
I like Monopoly.

>>8078901
a good pinball is fun, a bad pinball is no fun

>>8080939
Pacman is repetitive, Final Fight is repetitive, plenty of retro games are limited and repetitive but that doesn't make them bad.

>>8081909
Yet I don't think anyone would play Tetris for more than 15 minutes.

>>8082316
It's very cute. Reminds me of Safecracker.

>>8080939
Those early games were all about skill. Adding lights and buzzers is a distraction, not an improvement. Skillfully aiming your shots, hitting the machine just right to keep the ball in play. The good ones never felt repetitive, as you constantly improved.

>>8080481
been playing this a lot lately, the free ball after each mission and the multiball mode makes this version so much nicer to play even if there's a few annoying differences

What do you guys think of Zaccaria Pinball and Pinball FX3? Are they any good?

>>8082859
Zaccaria has great physics, but I'm not a fna of Italian tables. Pinball FX3 is very well put together, but I still prefer Pinball Arcade overall (if you didn't get the Williams/Bally tables when they were available I wouldn't bother though).

>mfw something in my pinball went wrong
>again

>>8082872
>Pinball Arcade overall (if you didn't get the Williams/Bally tables when they were available I wouldn't bother though).
Yar har

>>8082912
Is there a pirated version that works with all the tables? I'd hate for all that work to be lost forever.

What's the strangest theme you've ever seen for a Pinball table?

I'm on the Nightrain~!

I haven't played too many, mostly because I don't know where to find pinball machines, but the local arcade has this one and its my favorite one there. I think theirs has a custom led light setup, cause its super flashy and has a ton of color.
They've also got a Bally 8-Ball, Silverball Mania, and a Williams Flash that are fun. The newer machines have too much gimmicky stuff on the table for me.
>>8083392
This is looks pretty metal.

>>8077004
No one has posted the best ones yet

Didnt they stop making these?

>>8082872
>but I still prefer Pinball Arcade overall
fucking how? the physics are complete shit.

>>8080469
>I'm still a huge fan of the 70s pinball.
same, its my fav by far. Ive played a lot of real machines and found the 70s and 80s way more captivating and addictive.

>>8082916
yes, you should be able to find that.

Pinball is the one thing that cannot ever truly be emulated. That, and electromechanical games

>>8083812
Not really. Still better than FX3's wacky shit.

>>8083873
I got a digital pinball table for $300. It's pretty fucking sweet.

>>8080481
kino

>>8083916
The physics are still bullshit.

>>8078901
Pinball is all about taste although there are a lot of machines that are basically agreed on being good and a lot of machines that are basically viewed as bad. Everyone has a popular machine they don't like and always has lesser machines they do. Like me, I really don't care for the Twilight Zone. But Bally Game Show? NBA Fastbreak? The Shaq pin? All very underrated.

Personal fave game is picrel

>>8078921
I don't like these types of plungers but Indy is top tierrrrr

>>8077004
T2, The Getaway: High Speed II, TNG and Medieval Madness by hours played. The real tables that is, not digital recreations.

Super Mario World has a pin but DID YOU KNOW there's also a tiny version of it called Mushroom World?

>>8083950
Good taste, anon.
While not the deepest pin, it's still a pretty solid game.
A shame there's so much wear on the football's gears.

>Zen announce Pinball FX (next gen) 6+ months ago
>Silence
>Suddenly....
>My Little Pony new table available exclusively on Apple Arcade

>>8082859
I got into Pinball FX3 last month. Bought all the Williams packs as they were on sale.
I've been enjoying the game so far, though I'm still very bad at it
I'm not sure about the physics. There are some occasional quirks but I can't tell if that's actually the physics fucking up or if it's what's supposed to happen and I just don't know because my only other experience with Pinball so far has been >>8080481

>>8083998
Ponychads we just can't stop winning.

>>8083998
i want a real life mlp table

>>8083937
why are pinball physics so hard?

>>8084427
Reality IS complicated.

>>8083937
yeah, anyone with insight got an opinion of the physics of the common sims? PBA, FX3, and the visual stuff.

>>8078294
I hate Jersey Jack tables. They aren't fun to play at all. It's just autismos who focus on one table and try to get the high bing bing wahoos. With a good table, you can play it with friends and they'll have fun even if they aren't scoring high. Jersey Jack tables are either you know exactly what you are doing, or the ball drains immediately.

For me nothing will ever be as cool as Haunted House.

>>8083330
Woman-Lib, obscure japanese pin based on the woman's liberation movement in the United States.
Ripley's Believe It Or Not is kinda weird
Student Prince, based on the operetta
Genesis has a weird backglass
Wheel of Fortune is a bit weird
Probably others that I can't think of right now.

>>8083536
No new pinball machines were made during WWII. Some conversion kits were made. Aside from that, they never stopped.
Bally Williams stopped making pinball machines in 1999, but Stern Pinball kept making new pins. Eventually more manufacturers popped up.
>>8084480
PBA: Pretty bad
The physics on the recreation tables in FX3 are quite good. There's an adjustment you can make to make them a little harder. I think it's called Arcade mode.
I did not find the visual pinball physics to be good, but maybe there's some way to fix them. I don't know, I gave up on vpx.

>>8083873
PC emulated it fine. They have a bunch of new ones ya maybe not exact but pretty close

>>8077004
Any pinball emulators?

>>8085075
Yes. Visual Pinball.

>>8085079
whoa that's cool

What is this translite trying to convey?

>>8083998
Don't have the pony table in my pirate copy because it's too new. But I just got it for the classic table recreations, they're really good (and no gay censorship in the PC version). I rank the games:
Pinball FX3 > Visual Pinball X > Pinball Arcade
Surprisingly Visual Pinball is good now because it used to be total shit when I tried it a long time ago. I've only been playing the VPX tables, I'm assuming tables made for earlier versions could be real garbage.

>>8083464
The classic Guns N Roses is really metal. Background music switches from Welcome to the Jungle to Mr Brownstone to Paradise City depending on how well you do, and the multiball plays Nightrain. The whole table just oozes style and is a blast to play.

>>8085631
Is it really that good? I know Data East are kinda underrated, but I can't stand band themed pinballs... I especially hate Axl Rose's voice :-(

>>8084775
Haunted House is fucking awesome, probably my favorite Gottlieb wide body of the era, though I've also spent a lot of time on Black Hole.

>>8084502
I kinda liked Dialed In but yeah I don't care for any of these so much either. I think it's cool that they exist because I don't really have any love for any of the modern era Stern tables, though they are getting better. I haven't seen a GNR in person yet but something about the overall design of Jersey Jack reminds me of newer slot machines in a way I don't like.

>>8086198
>I've also spent a lot of time on Black Hole

>>8086534
Namcoomer

>>8083330
This thingy.
https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/zingy-bingy

>>8088032
>Zingy Bingy is a pinball machine from January 1997
It looks like it's from 1971

>>8088852
It's pretty surreal.

Real life? Terminator 2
Fake life? Pic related:

I know polygon is leftist but here's two articles they wrote about pinball.
https://www.polygon.com/features/2017/3/21/14937540/history-of-big-bang-bar-pinball
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/gaming/pinball-is-reviving-a-small-illinois-town/ar-AANUc8K
and here's a picture of three beautiful women in front of pinball machines, to counter regressive lefty attitudes on sex.

In person I love Spiderman 2007 but for digital nothing tops medieval madness. Hoping to visit MM table in person at some point

>>8079630
people hate the Addams Family? did i miss a meeting or something, I always loved the Addams Family

>>8091326
this is a retro games board quit being so anal about politics

>>8091207
>Fake life? Pic related:
Very good choice, anon.

>>8091721
Manchildren complain that it's just ramp/chair, and that the game is too stop & go (you gotta wait while the hand comes out, you gotta wait when you shoot the swamp, etc.).

>>8091326
>giving them clicks/money

At least use Archive links you retard.

>>8091326
Is there a gay club telling women they need their upper bodies to look like men? dafuq? They need to take some kind of art history class to understand their own bodies?

>>8084928
didn't realize that. They only make a one or two a year? Never see them anywhere

The munsters and alien one look pretty great. Have to look at these more

>>8091721
If you're a good enough player and you're playing for score the flowchart is simple and boring. You can see this in high level tournament footage.
>>8091794
I don't mind giving them clicks if it's an article that's good. That's me rewarding good behavior.
>>8092006
More than that. Check the pasta to find ones near you and check pinside or ipdb to learn more
>>8078301

SEGA made some fun tables in the 90's. The magnets that made the balls swirl around was pretty impressive in pic rel.

>>8093320
This game IS really cool!!!!!!! I've owned one of these and a Whirlwind. I love Twister I'm trying to buy one now actually.

Mrs. Pinbot or whatever

>>8093551
Have you heard of Bride of Pinbot 2.0? It's a mod of Pinbot that adds a modern display and updates the rules to be more complex and interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl-q3aqTUoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhLGjAaCZew

Stargate pinball was pretty nice

>>8077004
Space shuttle

Had one in a porn theater around the corner from a place I used to work at. I spent my lunch breaks at a porn theater playing pinball, hahaha

https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/space-shuttle

*slap-saves the thread*

>>8093532
When I was a little kid back in the early 90s, I remember seeing a pinball machine with a tornado on it, a fan that would come on to simulate wind, etc. It scared me living through a tornado once, but it was badass. Thanks for mentioning the name of it, I always wondered what it was called, I knew it was too old to be the Twister movie themed pinball game.

>>8097968
In more recent news, there's this motorcycle arcade game that has a fan in it.
https://bumblebear-games.myshopify.com/products/black-emperor

>>8097968
Pat Lawlor also created Earthshaker, which has a shaker motor in the cabinet so that the pinball machine shakes in your hands while you play.

>>8083960
I played this one as a kid! There was a place in Chandler, AZ called Jungle Gym that had all kinds of indoor rides, massive playgrounds, arcades, and they had a few children-sized pinball machines. One of them was Mushroom Kingdom, and I lovee playing that one when I was a wee lad.

>>8100452
We didn't deserve Pat Lawlor, he made great pinballs while people just want bing bing multiball Stern shit.

>>8101845
He's still making games. His most recent game was Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. Manufactured by Jersey Jack Pinball.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgP1cGkjWLE

>>8102027
I know, but I can't bring myself to play pinballs with those LCD screen, it takes too much away from the playfield.

>>8084502
You just described Stern's MO for the past decade and a half.

>>8084502
I'm just going to say that The Hobbit does an excellent job explaining to players what to do to progress.

I kind of have a big soft spot for Gottlieb's Gladiators and pretty much dominated my local arcade's scoreboard for it when they still had one.

Covid

*Kills the hobby*

>>8103254
Thank god, the price were absolutely out of hand.

>>8103890
*Market prices up 20+%*

>>8103890
Covid has increased my profit as a retro game dealer