/vr/ - Retro Games

Thank fuck I collect Resident Evil.

>>8079928
ok then why buy old games why not start buying newer games for cheap so in a few years they will be expensive? dont you have the patience for a few years.

>>8079928
>asking $340 for GameCube game
>still charge $8 shipping too
Why though?

I just bought a copy of Gears of War on the Xbox 360 for $500 certified by WATA. Its only dead if youre poor.

>>8079937
Only relevant for Switch, and I do.

>>8079928
You only want to buy them because those other people do. You are all just copying each other and getting angry when priced out. I already bought everything like GameCube games cheap years ago. Why didn’t you want them then?
You already found the solution anyway. Just put the .iso on a wii or GameCube. There are solutions to everything. I own almost no n64 games. I use an everdrive. It’s better than having hundreds of carts.

>>8079941
This. For us big timers collecting has never been better

>>8079945
I honestly believe in the future Wiiu titles will be expensive due to its low sales and current interest in the system hell even Wii is still worth collecting but I believe Wii is right on the precipice two more years and I honestly believe prices will hike.

>Why the fuck would I buy pic related when I can easily purchase a GameCube compatible Wii, GameCube controller, and memory card for a quarter of the price and download the iso and experience the real deal?

You should have asked yourself this a decade ago like everyone else did.

>>8079954
Tiny library with almost all the good games receiving switch ports and the console relies on a cheap handheld prone to errors to work. I’m not sure the wii u is the console to bet on.

>>8079954
What Wii u games should i hoard to maximise profits from future soiboi zoomers

>>8079954
I was thinking he meant stuff currently being sold. Wii is hard to say. I don't think many gamers are/were into it, but at the same time, it has the Nintendo tax going for it, so it is very likely there will be many desirable games in the future.

>>8079963
And on second thought, the fact that it was seen as a toy for casuals at the time means that "real games" on the platform are lower profile than they otherwise would be with most gamers.

>>8079963
Wii was massive with millions of children that now fondly look back on the system I mean look at faggot you tubers like Scott the woz that generation grew up with the Wii and they fucking love it for some reason and I imagine if they were smart hopefully most of them were also the age of people who got into crypto early I mean these guys are absolutely pumping the video game market.

>>8079972
Yeah, that is what I'm thinking. It was massively overlooked at the time for "serious" gaming and will definitely be more desirable.

If you collect for gay systems maybe. N64 prices have gone up about $20 on average, which is the trajectory they were going on for a few years. Yeah it sucks paying $40 for something that was $25 four years ago but get the fuck over it, you don't actually have to buy it.

Even systems like the Saturn have shockingly not gone up too much. Yeah, there's meme games like the WD titles that are over inflated, but the games I like (shitty terrible platformers) are again only about $20-30 higher than they were a while ago.

What's the deal with gamecube prices though? Something seems up there.

>>8079954
Im going ds/3ds since the hardware is stable or rising in terms of price and like the wii once you get out of the sea of shovelware the prices of games is going up at a steady rate. People love their handhelds and what i saw with the vita over the last few years was crazy. Like almost over night the games and hardware shot up and i got priced out, even the hong kong versions of games are stupid high on vita.

When Switch online include Saturn, GameCube and possibly 3DO/Neo Geo/Wonder Sawn

>>8079946
>You only want to buy them because those other people do
No I want them cause I genuinely enjoy them and want to play them. I would like to have the real thing but as you can see emulation and hardware mods are about the only options.

I think the problem is there are three camps here. One is people who just want to play the games. Collecting is part of it but the games are acquired for the purpose of playing them. The second camp are the non player collectors who just buy them to collect. The third is the scalpers and opportunists who just buy up shit with the sole purpose of running the price up and then dumping it to someone in camp 1 or 2.

Camp 1 is getting screwed especially when you are trying to do something like competitive speed running and such were they fucking require original hardware in a lot of the competitions.

>>8079993
I think PSP is still reasonable. Much better library than Vita, too.

>>8079993
There's no point everyone was using flashcards at this point

>>8080001
True, im not such a big fan of umd myself but yeah it is a fun system and you can still run across games at 2nd hand stores but mostly all ive ever seen are the movies.

>>8080016
Yeah but flashcarts and ode exist for almost all systems now. And i cant be the only one trying to get physical copies of certain game series.

>>8079928
i have barely bought anything within the last 10 years because of the prices going nuts, i loved being able to hit up thrift stores and garage sales and game various random games for the weekend.

>>8079997
You had 20 years to buy GameCube. Why do you only want them now? You act like everyone else is the problem. You are the problem. $50 was ultra high end for a GameCube game in 2012. I got everything I wanted back then.

>>8079928
So as a boomer with old vidya stuff you're telling me I can
>get back all the money i spent on video games plus profit
>still play the games because roms exist
>make coomlectors seethe
This is great

>>8080082
Because I had them up until 10 years ago when I went off to college and they were sold away by my parents. I spent the next 10 years establishing myself and now I can buy them again.

>>8080143
Just emulate them if you want to play them so badly. You can even get a Wii and mod it to play Gamecube isos. Quit seething and stewing in your faggotry that you can't buy physical versions of electronic toys.

>>8080143
So you didn’t get them back when they were cheap and now they’re expensive. But you still want them even though you can play an iso. And I assume you don’t want them to be worthless otherwise nobody would have motivation to sell, the games would be thrown in the trash or bought up too quickly. Plus there would be no interest in discussing these games online, and no content creator videos introducing you to titles you never played, because there would be no market for it. Basically You want these games to be exactly the price you are willing to pay right now, no more no less. Well I’m sorry we couldn’t arrange this for you

>>8080082
>Why didn't you buy every game for every system when it came out in case you ever want to play it in the future.
See how retarded you are.

>>8080147
You are right. It's just fun to point out that collectors think they are getting something of value when it's actually just speculators running up the price of everything. It always ends poorly for the collectors while the speculators who don't give a shit about the collectible cash out and laugh at the retards.

>>8079928
Emulation is your friend, and I say this as a coomlector.

>>8079928
Johnny-come-lately goyim making Jews rich, just as it should be.

There is a video game speculative bubble. ultimately prices will fall over time but there will be a new baseline price due to inflation and everyone working and receiving higher wages with worker shortage. There is a wave of fomo nostalgia due to covid 19 stay at home and new paradigm or being able to buy video games online and tracking such as a stock market. And now everything is being priced manipulated or shorted as a business model to cash out. Best you can do is only buy what you really can't live without or just wait it out for a economic recession and get video games really cheap. Emulation is a factor that could be used. Otherwise it's quite a mess for nostalgic millennials.....

>>8079928
Should've collected that shit ten years ago anon. Thing is, this was inevitable

>>8080143
>I went off to college and they were sold away by my parents.
Did you specifically tell them to please not sell your stuff? Could've just bought a plastic box and organized that stuff so it takes up little to no room in the basement. Or, buy a cheap storage unit with a personal lock on it.

>>8079928
Yep. I got a hacked Wii for my N64/GC/Wii games and a Raspberry for my retro shit. Fuck paying these jew prices.

>>8079940
You know that it'll come in a basic manilla bubble mailer. That's the real shit kicker about this.

>>8080251
Based and Raspberry pilled

I use flashcarts/modchips so I do not care at all

Y'all are such a buncha cry babies. You can still find stuff EVERYWHERE, just go look. Just because Ebay prices are through the roof doesn't mean garage sales and flea markets know what they have.

Just last week, in the middle of the Silicon Valley, in the heart of that place in the world where people have oodles of crypto and all of them understand videogames, and all of them know they are worth money.... Right here, in the middle of the Santa Clara city-wide garage sale, I found a 3DO, 4 controllers and 20-ish games for $40. From a guy who worked at 3DO and knows this stuff is worth money. And there was a copy of Lucienne's Quest in there.

So, yeah stuff is expensive on Ebay and online, but you can STILL find stuff out in the wild.

Pic related: it's the games from this haul. Dood worked at 3DO and mentioned that the joystick I bought that he'd built customer for SSFII on 3DO was the one they used in the offices to play. He said Trip would remember it, and when I sent an image to him, he definitely did.

So, like, dood, stop bitching and go hunt. There are still great finds out there.

Guilty of what? Participating in a fair market paying fair market price for something they want?

If you think it's a bubble just wait it out. Stop bitching about speculative market forces like some great sin has been committed against you. I agree it's pointless to buy gamecube games at that kind of price. SO DON'T BUY THEM.

>>8080292
Me again. Here's the custom joystick they made at 3DO that I got with the $40 bundle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvLFEh7V18A

Watch this (and pause at 20:25 kek)

>>8080220
This is what's bullshit though:
Kids who grew up with the second Generation of video games enter the collectors market 15-20 years after childhood, games are dirt cheap

Kids who grew up with the third Generation of video games enter the collectors market 15-20 years after childhood, NES games are dirt cheap from 1995-2005

Kids who grew up with the fourth Generation of video games enter the collectors market 15-20 years after childhood, games are more expensive than the NES market was but with exceptions like Earthbound. Prices are like this 2008 onward but seem to be bottoming out in the last few years

Kids who grew up with the fifth Generation of video games enter the collectors market 15-20 years after childhood, games are everywhere from cheap for a lot of Playstation games to high for stuff like Playstation RPGs and first party nintendo titles

Kids who grew up with the second Generation of video games enter the collectors market 15-20 years after childhood, games are generally high price for PS2 and gamecube with some exception

Basically anyone born with fifth gen onward got fucked from being able to get stuff cheap.

>>8080341
It's like that with any collector's market, the "you had to be there" mentality follows suit.

>>8080341
I've collected since first gen. I knew it was gonna be worth $$$$ some day. Still, I am on my fourth collection, as over the years, I sold, lost, moved, had to do all sortsa shit in real life that precluded the amazing collection.

Just because you were there at the time, had the money and knowledge it would be big eventually, you'd still have had to pay to house a huge collection for 40 years: that's not cheap. Back of the envelope math says taht paying $100 a month for 40 years for a storage locker is $480,000. You'd have made more money just investing in the stock market.

You sound like you are fetishizing this stuff. That's good. Go hunting! I have been doing this for decades, and the only thing I really care about is the thrill of the hunt: thrifting, garage saling, scrounging.

Get creative. Stuff is still out there. The local library just gave me 3 N64 carts for free because they were going to throw them out. Shit is out there. It is plentiful. The prices are stupid, so don't pay them.

Check the CD and DVD sections of your local Goodwill for accidentally mis-categorized games. Check estate sales. Get your ass out of the basement and move your legs. The stuff is out there in the millions. It was mass produced. The prices now are mostly based on speculation, not scarcity. Take advantage of that fact.

The best time to plant a tree was 40 years ago. The second best time is right fucking now, today.

>>8079940
Ebay sucks for selling, after shipping and taxes this dude is only getting around $300 with his listing.

>>8080292
You got lucky. That's not a common occurrence, especially out in bum fuck nowhere.

Out here, there's people who run flea malls and ebay shops that case the few thrift shops and yard sales you can find looking to buy this shit up. Anyone who has a job can't compete. Plus I'm sure most have deals with some of the local shops to hold stuff back for them.

If I do happen to drop in and spot some shit, I end up seeing it a couple of days later in those very flea malls for 5x the price. Every one sees what the highest price on eBay is and slaps that on it.

>>8080298
It's not just GameCube, it's everything. Even new stuff like I said. Like 70% of any limited run game release is pre-ordered by scalpers who immediately dump it on eBay at a huge mark up.

Just like the Pokemon card shit from months ago. Most of the action is just people trying to make a dollar of someone else expense while the people who just wanted to get some cards to play are left out.

It's bad for the company producing these products because it dissuades the long term fan types from being able to participate and enjoy the product.

>>8080032
I just miss when basic pack in smb was like $3-5 a pop because the game came with almost every nes control deck sold. Now its an easy $10 because people will pay that same with the NOT FOR RESALE sonic the hedgehog.

>>8079941
cuck

>>8079928
I stopped at a game store I've never been too, and anything worth a shit was over $100-200.

You can sue your parents for the current value of games they sold off. Just so you know.

>>8080368
You forgot to recommend him checking garbage containers. You can still find good shit there, from games to CRTs.

game boy is the best to collect for :) comfy carts with beautiful art, all the good games are relatively cheap, boxed stuff isn't even that bad. Don't collect meme shit like gamecube, get a wii as you said.

>>8079954
>>8079961
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wii_U-only_games
There's literally only 35 exclusives left. WiiU is dead and will never have a valuable second-hand market.

>>8079928
It's a fraud perpetuated by the same guys who got sued in the 80's for creating a fake coin bubble.
Karl Jobst did a video on it
https://youtu.be/rvLFEh7V18A

>>8080161
I'd just prefer playing on original hardware is all. I couldn't buy this stuff for the longest time because most of my last 10 years was spend in school then working so I could buy a house.

>>8080235
I was away from home for most of college and gradschool. I didn't have much time to take care of what I left behind because I had work and internships to deal with. I came back after my parents did a small home renovation and found out they sold a lot of the electronics off.

>>8080464
Its annoying but they didn't do it with ill intent, they just saw the stuff as kids toys and didn't think I'd miss them. Its not worth ruining a relationship for the rest of their life over.

>>8079959
Ports and emulation really doesn't mean much for prices it seems. Collecting is a thing for it's own purpose, rather than for playing games or anything like that. People just like collecting.

>>8079937
Anything newer than 6th gen will never be worth anything outside of limited editions

>>8079986
>I only like shit games so game prices are fine

>>8081027
At least I'm not paying $80+ on a Gamecube game

>>8080583
based, I hope these cunts get hit hard by the IRS

>>8080583

Sealed graded shit is very different from just regular retro shit.
I have no fucking clue why everyone is bitching about this and thinking it will go away eventually when every single fucking government just keeps printing billions and trillions on a monthly basis. Inflation is everywhere, get used to it.

Fucking emulate it or use a modded Wii.
>>8080583
True but the Fire Emblem GC and Wii games have been over priced for years.

>>8081113
someone obviously doesn't understand the difference between inflation and speculation

>>8081126

Alright, keep waiting for prices to drop, maybe you'll get to buy Path of Radiance for 750$ in 2 years.

>>8081142
I got Path of Radiance for 10 bucks years ago, in fact I got all the GC games I wanted years ago

>>8080292
I-is that citrus potting mix???

peec master lace 2010: the nintendo retro bubble will burst
>2021 it still hasn't burst

>>8080464
lmao. has someone done this? i have a huge valuable collection i've got from parents selling their kids collections at garage sales.

you can still do this btw, i got a box full of super nintendo and pokemon games today just by asking for games at a sale full of old lady junk.

>>8081154
nice, never saw it get that low. i bought my copy from walmart 15-16 years ago for $20 out of a bargain bin.

>>8081203
NES softened a bit after 2016 but has rebounded a fair bit.

>>8080334
The fucking beanie brigade.
Of course it is.

>>8081229
it was a local buy in Australia
I also got F-Zero GX and Pokemon XD for the same price

>>8079928
You should really only collect the must haves. Some games I get digitally since I don't give a fuck about them, but everything else I want a physical version for. With older games, they aren't for playing but for having on a shelf since you REALLY like the games that you NEED to have them physically with how absurd their prices are

>>8081242
ah, yeah i bought majority of my gamecube games back then from mowing a lawn out in the country once a week during the summer, would use the cash to buy a game most weeks, and if i didn't find anything i wanted i would grab snacks and play what i already had.

really kicked into high gear when i got my first job around 2005-2006, i really went for whatever i could but have a soft spot for NES games.

>>8081262
most of these pictures were from 2012-2013 or so after i moved back in with my parents after college, later moved a couple of times.

used to post this stuff regularly.

I really don't get why gamecube prices are consistently retarded like this, I get there are genuinely rare games out there but no other console has greatest hits/player's choice rereleases that still sell for triple digits like Paper Mario

I'm going to start collecting rocks. Can't overprice that, fuckers.

>>8081020
Like half of the Switch library is a limited edition.

>>8081356
>$15000000
ahem

>>8081361
>turns hair into diamonds
Piratechads always win baby

>>8081353
Nintendo tax and nostalgia.

>>8080407
this is true I made a thread a year ago showing that this could still be done at places like flea markets and good will stores. I got these 2 games for 1$ each and last week got Parasite Eve on ps1 for 50 cents at the same place.


I have so far got 20-30 games for less then 25$ in the last year at this one good will store

>>8081187
OMG yes. Same guy was selling that for $5. The wife, actually, considered that the best buy of the day. Sealed!

>>8081020
Somebody missed when used PS3 games were over $100, because Sony was going to shut down PSN.

>>8081380
...and I got them for free, retard.

>>8081820
And are they still over $100?

>>8081374
Why is the Nintendo tax and Sega tax so high?

>>8079928
I have two copies of this game. Just wanted you to know.

>>8082384
worthless hoarder

>>8080375
"only"

>>8081020
Wrong
https://www.pricecharting.com/game/playstation-4/godzilla

>>8082287
After Sony announced they are delaying the shutdown of PSN? No, they went down to about $70 used

>>8079928
fuck WATA and anyone who defends that shit
>HURRR LOOK AT ME I HAVE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO WASTE STAY MAD POORFAGS
imagine being a cuck and coping this fucking hard

>>8081380
goodwill has caught on, they don't sell games cheap, if at all. They no longer carry systems in any stores around me. Its all online on their auction website

>>8080474
even loose GB carts prices are overblown now. i used to buy loose cart of popular games such as TMNT2 and Castlevania in pristine conditions for 5 € each in a local shop like 15 years ago. should have bought the whole damn shelf back then

>>8082426
>had this back in 2017
>sold it because it was a dogshit game
>now the tribe has used their dark magiks to once again to Jew people out of their money

>>8082386

I have five, waiting for another two, I'll continue buying all copies of this game just so you can't buy it.

>>8079946
>>8080082
>you want them because
I'm an autistic fuck who loves collecting things. Games, toys, coins, you name it. Even as a kid I would collect sea shells and funky looking rocks. I've turned to board games recently.

>you didn't buy them because
Between my brother and I we had a PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, and all three Gameboys when I was old enough to buy games myself. There were so many games I wanted but had to miss out on. The first time I played Resident Evil was about 2016.

>>8082295
The best companies of our heyday purchased real estate in our childhood memories. It's a long term investment but it pays dividends.

>>8079928
>I can't buy this therefore no one can / will
What a shit personality. Sit down.

>>8082860
>I can afford this, I will make sure no one else can

>>8082867
Personally, I think whoever buys that game for that price is retarded. But I don't claim a whole market is "dead" the minute prices escape my wallet's capacity

>>8082386
i have 12 copies of gameboy tetris

This thread is full of idiots with a straw man in their mind of greedy speculators pricing the “tru collectors” for profit. The reality is that everything seething “game collecting is too expensive” guy is the exact reason the prices are high as they are: there are too many of you competing for the same games for the same reasons. And instead of blaming yourselves or each other you invent an image of an evil scalper to vent at. Guess what: there would be no opportunity to sell at these high prices if there was nobody willing to buy them.

>>8082873
It's dead for everyone at that income bracket

>>8079957
Honestly this.

It’s cool to have physical copies, but honestly there’s a fine line between collecting and consooming that most “collectors” crossed around the time the pandemic started.

You can get the same experience (often better) by emulating, and you don’t have to clutter your house with shit you might play once

>>8079941
>wata was exposed as pure cancer last week
>Your plastic shit is going to drop, hard.
Great job giving rich conmen your money.

>>8082880
>there would be no opportunity to sell at these high prices if there was nobody willing to buy them
There was nobody willing to buy them... until some big Youtuber made a video about them. People with millions of followers have the power to create a demand where there's none.

>>8082929
That proves my point though. There is no “reseller” to get a jump on. It’s all just the same retro game guys being introduced to the same thing at the same time and competing with each other and then crying if they get there too late. Just like this whole thread

>>8079928
I literally have a spare copy of this game that is scratched up that I need to save. Had three but I gave one to a friend for his birthday. Bought all of them for under 100 back before Three Houses hype began. Just be smart and buy what you think will pick up hype.

That being said, GC is a lost cause at this point imo. I would grab a few more games but the prices are just getting a little too high. They seem to be stabilizing and dropping a bit as the pandemic is winding down around me. I currently am focusing on my PS2, DS, PS3 and Wii for collecting. PS2 is starting to get bad but it is manageable right now. DS and Wii will get worse in a few years, DS is starting to get a bit bad. For the Wii, I would say grab The Last Story, Sakura Wars, Pandora's Tower, Metroid Prime Trilogy, and Radiant Dawn.

>>8082929
I royally hate this faggot and wish he would die of diabetes already. Dude doesn't even play the games he collects.

>>8082426
Lol'd. Get back to me if it's still worth that in 10 years

>>8083058

Another baby got priced out, have you tried getting a job?

>>8082963
Exactly. Market manipulation of sealed items by fraudsters has nothing to do with the loose cart used market. That is all driven by youtube videos and weak willed nerds who need to immediately buy what they just saw on ebay.

>>8079937
Because it takes 15 years for those games to double their initial worth. If you know anything about investing, then you'd look elsewhere.

It's usually complete losers who have bullshit on their hands by happenstance, who then begin hoarding for resell purposes. They then prey on mentally ill whales who will pay out the nose for nostalgia.

>>8079928
>The higher this shit goes the less people will be able to participate.
Emulation is literally free faggot

>>8083218
Also flash carts and other "roms/isos into real hardware" solutions exist for when emulation fails.

What was that shitty shmup that shmupjunkie helped shill? Thing looked like dog shit but he and some other YouTubers shilled it hard and the devs did a limited physical release only. People bought that shit like crazy, mostly scalpers. YouTubers were bitching, even junkie, that they had trouble getting them just cause scalpers jumped all over and bought them all up. Then dumped then on eBay for insane markups.

How stupid do you have to be to support shit like that? You guys have fun with that shit. This is a special kind of stupid in this hobby cause you have people who will drop thousands a month on gacha games.

>>8083071
>spends latest neet check on more video games
Post weight and blood pressure

>>8079963
Wii has an incredibly overlooked library. One of the last bastion of not-AAA games coming from big dev/pubs too
Once it "gets discovered", the prices will shoot up

>>8083389
and what are these overlooked hidden gems?

>>8083405
The /v/ recommended games wiki has pretty much it all
Personally I recommend Opoona and MaBoShi

>>8079928
Anyone who pays more than $10 for any game that is older than 5 years is a retard and deserves nothing less than getting shot at sight.

>>8079941
>Gears of War on the Xbox 360
Not Retro
>Wata certified
New meme

>>8080213
>it's quite a mess for nostalgic millennials
This

I'm glad I procured a lot in 2018. It seems I avoided a lot of the cancer. Leaning on ones existing collection can mitigate this mess while we wait. Emulation is a solid option as well. I do both so it's not a total disaster but trying at times. I still need Lufia II. I typically target CIB, never the sealed meme. Even then, the few titles I'm still after have been hit with at least a 20-30% increase.

>>8080253
This. Sellers must do better if they charge a premium and ship in shit.

>>8080298
>like some great sin has been committed against you
Against all of us. Everyone knows shady shit is behind the jump. But yeah wait it out. I agree

>>8080529
Didn't realize they gutted the wii u's exclusive library that badly. Only 2 games on that list that wont get ported and worth a shit are game & wario, and wii party u.

>>8080375
>only getting around $300 with his listing
Poor guy. I hope he can survive selling a mid-tier title at a premium price point. kek

>>8081097
More like the FTC or SEC. They will. Takes time to build a case. New information is coming out everyday. They're probably already on the governments radar already. A matter of time. Our community will have it's vindication.

>>8083237
This is a solid option. Can confirm. Helps in these times. God bless Everdrive

If all scalpers and resellers liquidated their inventory, game prices would go down 15% easily

>>8079935
I still have my RE4 Copy bought a little after release day on 2015

>Only For
If only we knew

>>8079937
> just get them back by prolonging the issue

Spotted the scalper

>>8080529
Devil's Third (a mediocre 6/10 game) will be the only Wii U game ever worth anything.

>>8083698
And Tekken Tag 2

>>8082986
I bet he plays mobile games.

>>8083851
I dont normally accuse youtubers of being fake gamers, but jeez, MJR really is a fucking poser. He doesn't have any gameplay past the first level in any of his videos.

I regularly pay less than $10 for great games for the Gameboy, Gameboy Advance, DS, 3DS etc.

Meme franchises like Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy, etc. can command stupid prices, but the good news is that they're enormously overrated and if you're too poor to afford them, stop being jealous of the normies who can.

>>8080292
you just got lucky dude
Consider that there's at least 20+ resellers in your area constantly looking for this shit on top of probably dozen more other collectors competing with you on top of people looking up online for prices nowadays

>>8082295
I don't even see Sega tax. They're icky and not loved by Reddit.

>>8080292
>its easy dood just buy stuff from retired programmers who literally made the games and has enough money to not care about retro collecting

I guess its better than ripping off old ladies at yard sales

>>8080292
>I found a 3DO developer near me in a major metropolitan area, therefore you all will too
This board astounds me. Everyone has the conceptual awareness of a dog and frame all their posts through this solipsistic bullshit thinking.

>>8079928
its a big club and you aint in it.

>normies who have rich parents sell their old games for exhorbitant prices

Who knew?

>>8084441
>This board astounds me
Then don't visit?

>>8084441
Most of them are redditors and trannies that banned and drove away any remotely prominent or interesting users. What did you expect? seethe harder.

I'm seeing a lot of Mega Drive repros pop up on ebay bros. I'm a coomlector myself but now I'm torn between wasting my hard money on something that goes 4x times the price of a repro. Those repros look so fucking good I have no idea how your distinguish them from the real thing. Rocket Knight Adventures, Shinobi 3, Streets of Rage 3, Maximum Carnage are some that I've seen being sold for 39.99€ while the original titles go for more than 100€. How is this not going to tear the market apart when buyers won't be able to know if they are buying the real thing or a reproduction?

For the record, I'm actually happy this is happening. Faggots who just hoard stuff for the sake of making a buck without a care in the world for the people who actually enjoy playing and having a cool physical library can get fucked.

>>8084710
>buyers won't be able to know if they are buying the real thing or a reproduction
To the astute, this will never be an issue. Simply opening the cart will render the result. There are multiple ways to differentiate repros from originals. I've only procured repros of special editions that were never released in a retail setting or were region specific. Standard releases, I personally could not procure over the original but that is a matter of preference and I completely agree that if it's fine with the buyer to purchase a repro over an original of a standard release, then I'm all for the market correction, as I'm no fan of the hoarder consumer trying to inflate their bottom line.

>>8084759
But how do you know the difference between an original and a repro if you're buying online anon?

>>8083058
>asserts that games after some arbitrary cut-off will never be worth anything
>provided with example indicating the contrary
>"d-doesn't count!!! th-the price now doesn't matter!!"
Pathetic. Just admit you were/are a dumb faggot and move on.

>>8084456
No I love it here. If you think a bunch of retards arguing how to experience children's video games is anything but entertaining, you got me pegged all wrong.

>>8084929
You only buy from listings that prove authenticity. If you check GBA game listings on Ebay, you'll find some with pictures of the cartridge opened up,

>>8084929
Carefully. Also, if you're buying at a higher price point, you can always message the seller. In the event that they lie, you'll have an established conversation exposing the lie. Ebay bends over backwards for the buyer, so it's not hard to get your money back. Also, I've found that sellers provide a picture of the PCB, if it's a higher price point title. The label is harder to tell if original or not based solely on the online listing, but you may also ask about that too. Once you obtain the cart, it's easy to tell in person. I still haven't seen repro labels reach OEM quality, despite how far reproductions have come. Cases are easy in that Nintendo used a specific type of cardboard for their boxes that I've yet to see utilized properly by repro manufacturers. Again, they're getting close, but still not quite there. Sega hard cases for example possess a textured plastic and bare "Sega" on the inside, that I have yet to see reproduced, as all reproduction Genesis hard cases don't feature the name. The Sega Genesis soft cases on the other hand I'm not sure about. None of the Genesis titles I own were originally sold in the soft case, all hard case releases.

>>8083706
lol no, nobody played TT2 on WiiU. That'll be nomore popular than the PSX version of Super Turbo at best, and really not even given that it won't be a giant nostalgia trip for most people given how poorly it sold.

>>8085010
>children's video games
Entirely speculative. Some titles are clearly not for younger children. Some are obviously. Then again everyone has an opinion. But you'd find that you're in the minority here with that take.

>>8084456
Don't pretend he didn't make you mad, given that you replied. He's right.

And no, I'm not mad given that I replied, I'm gloating at how dumb you are.

>>8085038
No, video games, especially the ones /vr/ cares about, being children's entertainment is entirely uncontroversial unless your ego is that fragile. The actual majority opinion is noticing the people who have fragile egos.

>>8085049
Wouldn't the board be something along the lines of
>/fe/ then?

>The actual majority opinion
To be fair, I find you entertaining, but I don't think you speak for /vr/ in it's entirety

>>8085057
>but I don't think you speak for /vr/ in it's entirety
Said the guy whose whole post is who speaks for the majority.

>>8085040
>Implying
Not mad, simply don't visit if it bothers (You)
Just a Mans approach. Perhaps that's the issue here.

>>8085038
>Entirely speculative
I am literally reading it here anon. What speculation? People are arguing whether you should play zelda emulated or on a CRT with original hardware in another thread.

>>8085058
Your take. My take. Not everyone's take. Better friendo?

>>8085061
>Not mad, simply don't visit if it bothers (You)
Yet you replied.

Again.

Just don't reply if it bothers you. See how that works?

>>8085062
>People are arguing whether you should play zelda emulated or on a CRT with original hardware in another thread
That's the point. You're hurting my head. Lawll

>>8085065
This is how image boards propagate though. Kind of the point. Discourse and or discussion.

>>8085067
so what's speculative?

>>8085068
>Discourse and or discussion
Unless obvious shit post bait. Then it's really funny see.

>>8085073
Your take. But so is mine. Neither speak for the majority I suppose. Although, the board wouldn't exist otherwise. So again, my take, you're take in the minority. Nig

>>8085064
Not really, your post >>8085038 here is whiny and now you're just pretending it's a case of "live and let live" on some obvious case of trying to change the subject.

This is a children's video game board. People argue over the color of the sky in Super Mario Brothers. Deal with it?

>>8085068
You discussed literally nothing, you told him to leave when he pointed out board culture cancer, which is actual discussion that you're trying to divert from.

How about don't post, anon? Actually don't post.

>>8085078
>People argue over the color of the sky in Super Mario Brothers

See >>8085068

(You)

>>8085080
same feg circle jerk is funny huh

>>8085081
Yes, you reply without any content or discussion, while claiming you do, I see that.

>>8085015
the problem is that the seller might show you pictures of a genuine board, but sell you a repro. I bought a Gamecube controller a few months ago that was claimed to be genuine, all the seller's pics showed Nintendo branding. A few weeks later it came in and was a cheap knock-off.

At least after I filed the report with ebay, the seller just refunded me in full no questions asked and I kept the controller lol.

>>8085076
my take is retards argue about children's games on this board, and its amusing. Explain what I have speculated when I witness it happening live?

>>8085083
Perhaps but again, if you don't like the culture, don't subject yourself to it by not visiting. The discussion will continue without your efforts. I see that.

>>8085084
>At least after I filed the report with ebay, the seller just refunded me in full no questions asked and I kept the controller lol.
Yes, then that's what you do in that case. What are you asking me exactly?

>>8085086
because anyone can same feg and shit post bait. I'm good with it, because it bumps a good bread. Hence why I'm not utilizing sage.

>>8085087
>Perhaps but again, if you don't like the culture, don't subject yourself to it by not visiting.
No? I'm not even the guy who rightfully pointed out the cancer, but you're still just plain butthurt and that's not anyone's problem but yours.

You don't get it. You're not board culture. You're just a fag. Literally all that matters is you're trying to come up with a counterpoint and you can't. No discussion has happened and it's still a children's video game board, that's why you have selectively avoided the replies that prove that.

>>8085089
Tips for identifying repros claiming to be originals. I didn't realize peripherals were falling victim to this as >>8085084 pointed out.

>>8085098
>plain butthurt
Not at all. But I see what you're doing. Derailment is really funny. Nor am I the /vr/ master. You can have whatever take you'd like friend. Seems pretty simple though, don't like the board, don't visit the board. Once more, discussions will continue with or without either one of our inputs.

>>8085101
oh then just seller history and reviews. you're right its not foolproof, but there's enough buyer protection you don't need to sweat it.

>>8085106
It's fairly easy to spot the sketch sellers. Any quality seller will have legit feedback to back them up. They also are no stranger to taking the right kind of pictures, alleviating a lot of questions.

>>8080341
>gen-x are outnumbered by millennials
You could have just said this

>>8085105
Yes, you're plainly butthurt that nothing you've said has mattered and have just been shitposts.
>Discussions will continue
In spite of you, maybe?

>>8085089
sellers on Ebay are passing shit off as genuine. They post pics of genuine games/peripherals despite their stock is bootleg, and price the bootlegs comparably to originals so buyers think they're paying more for OEM.

that is all

>>8085120
Attempted derailment by going around in is not thread topic discussion. You made a general statement and I followed with a black and white analogy. I'm not getting off on (You)'s predicated upon shit post baiting friend.

>>8085129
Do your homework. Ask the seller questions. Once more, It's easy to get your money back. Especially if it's a bootleg product.

Why the fuck is OutRun 2006 $200, reeeeee

>>8085138
based reeeeee

>>8085130
No, retard, you're criticizing a guy who is rightfully pointing out that not everyone has a boomer programmer who made their favorite childhood game living near them.

I know you're a retard, so this will go over your head, but that's what this is really about.

You've contributed nothing to the thread. This needs to be stated and left alone, because it's just true. It's not a discussion topic, it has happened. It doesn't even matter if you're pretending to be retarded or whatever. You are the only derailing poster.

Video game collecting is dead, sure, if you are buying degen western releases. I've been collecting Japanese Saturn games for reasonable prices for some time.

>>8085138
Bid on this one anon. Maybe no one else will.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/265284650616?hash=item3dc4328678:g:QO4AAOSwaBxhJoaw

The median age gen-xer is late 40s. It'll be another 10 years before the obese ones with huge collections start dying off and their shit showing up in estate sales

>>8085170
Is it even real if it's PS2 version? Beggars can't be choosers I guess. It's either this or taking out a loan. Thanks for the tip, anon.

Captcha: PSH20 - Like PS2, but psh, 2

>>8085152
K, but you seem a lot more mad then I am, friend.
Chill mango

>>8085193
PS2 version is fine I think.

>>8085190
Estate sales aren't a thing anymore, anon. Not even a corona thing, they were dead five years ago regardless.

Used to be you could get hundreds of people to pack a backyard for just any estate sale. Just before corona it was just dozens.

idk maybe wait ten years for online estate sales to start and try to be one of the early adopters.

>>8085214
Peaks and valleys anon. They'll be back.

>>8085030
What port of TT2 do you think is the best?

Like many said it's gotten kinda ridiculous to get shit now at reasonable prices, especially Gamecube and PSX. I just said fuck it and converted the majority of my collection to ODEs and just playing the heavy hitters off them. I'm glad I had disposable income five years ago and got all the Gamecube games I really wanted.

Excited for my Xstation to arrive to finally see what's the big deal with SOTN on my CRT.

>>8085242
>I'm glad I had disposable income five years ago
So much this

>>8085193
Sorry what version did you want? I saw PSP was affordable so I was assuming by 200 dollars you were referring to the PS2 game.

Got both a couple of years ago CIB for $25 a piece. Now $200+ baka

i feel like cartridges are the only things that make sense to 'collect'
Am I crazy? I feel like discs are way more fragile, and disc consoles are all going to breakdown and basically require an ODE eventually. Not to mention disc rot.

I'm not sure how justified this idea is, but a lot of it comes from the fact its so much easier to pirate for disc consoles than cartridge ones.

>>8085316
>Not to mention disc rot
Environment contributes to this

>much easier to pirate for disc consoles than cartridge ones
You can dump any ROM from the cart or burn a specific dump with a particular save file.

>>8085326
I should've said re-write a specific dump with a particular save file. It's only a matter of the required dumping/writing hardware. It's really just as easy both ways.

>>8085326
>environment
Yeah I live in a place with regular 70%-90% humidity bro
>dump any rom from the cart or burn specific dump with
that requires developer hardware though which is extremely expensive. or an everdrive, which is also very expensive(and boring from a tinker perspective)

>>8085316
I think it's more just that Disc games don't have a lot of artefact quality because they're middle children, not particularly evocative of the early days of gaming. Even the Playstation, while historically significant, isn't as sexy and eye-catching as the old third gens that re-ignited the industry or the mature fourth gens that refined the medium. Fifth gens are just too awkward and past that, I mean, you're six generations in; who cares, gaming is mainstream. It's no longer Americana, it's just someone's nostalgia.

>>8085332
>70%-90% humidity
Yeah disc rot must be a consideration then.

>that requires developer hardware
I'm not totally sure it does. However, you may be correct. I thought that repro manufactures used a myriad of dumping/writing hardware to achieve reproductions.

>>8085350
I guess I'm thinking of stuff like pic related at best. Other stuff probably requires stuff that is very close to being a devkit
I wish I could figure out how to make my own cartridge programmer and just reflash some random chinese repro over and over

>>8084710
Share a picture. All I can see is some chink crap which isn't fooling anybody

i wouldn't call myself a collector but i'm definitely a hoarder. i've never sold a video game and i'm now considering selling all my games and just buying everdrives and/or modding my consoles.

>>8084950
Congratulations on completely missing the point which was that you can't just blindly buy modern games and expect them to be worth much more in the future. Unless you genuinely think your cherry picked example is gonna be worth $1000 in 10 years, clown.

>>8081020
Why are people so implicitly optimistic about emulation developments when PS2 emulation hasn't gotten all that much better in 15 years and PS3 emulation is still virtually non-existent?

There's a very realistic potential future were the only way to play less popular newer games and versions that aren't shitty, inauthentic steam ports is to purchase this increasingly-rare, increasingly-rotting stock. Where the preservation of gaming history is left in the hands of commercial entities and dying brands. I know /vr/ isn't supposed to care because that's all Nu shit, but at least for the moment, this is the future that's happening.

>>8085376
because most people seem to consider emulation to be 'solved' for everything but the saturn and arcade machines for some reason.

>>8085256
>>8085213
Xbox would be ideal, but didn't know how ridiculous the prices were.

>>8085376
Why did you think my comment had anything to do with emulation? 7th gen onwards is when companies started to actually give a shit about their property, (i.e they can re-release whenever they feel like it) and most games were getting released on pc anyway.

>>8085376
>>8085398
we're basically moving towards video game subscription services to be honest. wouldnt be surprised if 10th gen consoles have no disc drive by default and you just subscribe.
the series S and ps5digital...
its happening

>>8085354
NES/SNES/Genesis very easy and was the hardware I was referring to. N64, yes is a whole different ball game from what I understand. You're correct I believe. N64 is a pain in the ass from what I understand.

>>8085398
Why would it not be valuable when that is the only way to play it? Look at the price of a hackable PS3, it's like up to $1500 now. When people who grew up on seventh gen consoles and seventh gen games grow up and start having nostalgia for them, if these problems aren't solved, the prices are going to skyrocket past their already not-insignificant current price.

>>8085403
There have already been plenty of lost games that followed the as-a-service model. Imagine when kiddies can no longer play League of Legends or Fortnite because their respective companies went under. I guess we're just a spoiled generation. Preservation was just inherent in the naivety of our distribution methods.

Kind of sad, but sucks to be Zoomers.

>>8085405
i don't know anything about piracy for 3rd and 4th gen. I basically had the games I wanted to play already.
How does that stuff work?

>>8085389
>arcade machines
MAME on the correct PC performs the same in my experience. Area 51 is legit af and plays perfect. From what I understand that's one title that gives people a lot of problems.

>>8079928
you can't expect physical games that are long out of print to be the same price or very near the price it was at release.
>I can just download the game and play it way cheaper
no one is stopping you from doing so.

>>8085420
i wouldnt be surprised if microsoft dropped the pretense and just more directly admit that the xbox is a unique pre built pc at this point and let it run windows. just have a front end for xbox game pass that it automatically launches to
it would make sense for sony to follow suit,nobody would even get on them about hypocrisy. people seem willing to accept whatever and totally go along with the 'own nothing' idea
thats just it for video games aside from token attempts at arcades like house of the dead scarlet dawn

>>8085406
Because the Publisher can just release it on PS6 or PS7 or whatever. I bought a PS3 game a few months ago that was swiftly creeping up in price, and the company who made it had gone bust. Seemed like a pretty safe bet. Guess what, it's randomly getting a pc port over 10 years after being released.

>>8082986
u just jelly he's breaking bank

>>8085445
they have such huge backlogs that when they're insane bloated video games take a decade or more to make they can still make people feel like stuff is coming out by remastering and reremastering shit through a B team

>>8085405
Answer me! is there anything cheaper than a dr64?

>>8085403
You will own nothing and like it goyim and if you try to mod games and make a career of it like the valve games communites did in the early 2000s we will put you to death.

Oh but faggots and troons are okay to shill shit games like celeste that are sub par mario clones or reskins of super meat boy with some kind of nihlist “there is no god why bother?” while avoiding outright telling people to kill themselves.

>>8085616
>counterstrike
>team fortress series
>half life 1 was a total conversion of quake and goldsrc, the engine it was on was an offshoot of the quake engine that was commercially licensed by valve as seen in the alpha leak where its explained in some word docs written by gaben himself

>>8079928
you can blame eCelebs. without them, the rate of adoption of retro would have been a slow, acceptable growth, with people truly into the hobby finding interest in it, rather then some screaming manchild's rant being the trigger for a wide range of people who hop on cause they think its the kewl trendy thing to do and thinking their passing nostalgia bug is worth dumping thousands of dollars into when they had zero interest in it before.

>>8085637
i wonder what will happen once the nostalgia fad ends for this kind of thing. will prices just plummet

>>8081020
>assumes political propaganda andshovelware will ever be worth something in the future

>>8085363
>you can't just blindly buy modern games and expect them to be worth much more in the future
That wasn't the point at all. Your original post was
>ANYTHING newer than 6th gen will NEVER be worth anything outside of limited editions
Aside from "worth anything", this is a completely unambiguous statement. And I'd say a reasonable person would consider a $200 game to be "worth something".
>Unless you genuinely think your cherry picked example is gonna be worth $1000 in 10 years, clown.
This is nonsensical, as all of your replies have been. Your original assertion was the games will "never be worth anything", then you shifted the goalposts to "the games that are worth something won't hold their value for 10 years", and now you've shifted them again to "the games that are already 4 times their RRP won't be 20 times their RRP in 10 years" If that's your definition of "worth anything", then almost no game is.

>>8085445
What game?

>>8085637
Social media is truly cancerous. Sometimes I wish this garbage could be banned and we went back to pre 2012 when the internet was still a comfy place.

>>8085785
people where complaining about price and ecelebs even in 2012

>>8085790
Don't remember any of that. Sure prices were going up but that's because eBay started to take off around 2008. You could still find very good deals back then for PSX/Saturn/N64 vydia where's today this bullshit is already inflating PS4/Wii vydia prices.

>>8079928
There's only one answer to this:

Embrace piracy.

>>8085652
Who are you even quoting? Look at the post I originally replied to lmao. I bet you're from reddit since you think you're far smarter than you actually are. Reeeee harder you pathetic nerd hahaha

>>8086412
>Who are you even quoting?
I quoted your original post verbatim, moron.
>Look at the post I originally replied to lmao.
Neither this nor your reply reference
>>blindly buy modern games and expect them to be worth much more in the future
Again, your post was
>>ANYTHING newer than 6th gen will NEVER be worth anything
which is plainly wrong.
>anyone who's not a complete retard like me must be from reddit
Pathetic. I'd tell you to go back to /v/, but you're even dumber than the average /v/tard.

>>8079928
I have some advice for my fellow zooms. I'm on the older side of our spectrum so I was able to get a lot of what I wanted as it came out, but for older stuff this is my general mantra:
>always be willing to deal with shit condition.
As long as the internals are fine, this is not a big deal. Also get good with fixing electronics, it will come in handy massively and you'll feel comfortable buying broken shit for way cheaper (and you'll also feel satisfaction in repairing stuff)
Also just emulate lol. I just think hardware is a hell of a lot more important than software for older systems, especially when you can burn CDs yourself for the PS1 or whatnot

>>8081259
I got rid of all my Rare games once the collection hit, including my Conker, which was a local rental copy that I had more nostalgia for than it being expensive.

>>8086935
how do i make my own repro cartridges then

>>8079928
>Get Gacha Force in a bargain bin from Toys R Us for 14.99 when they were getting rid of PS2/gamecube/xbox stock to make room for the next gen.
>It regularly sells online for 350 CAD.
Jesus Christ. It's not even that good. It's unique, sorta, except games like Poy Poy or Robo Pit or Cyber Troopers are almost kinda the same gameplay, save for customizing your character's weapons.
So, yeah, some games have spiked ridiculously. But speculating which ones will is anyone's guess considering the ones that have in the past were completely random.
Most can be bought below or around retail price for most games, complete in box.
At least around here. Your mileage may vary.

>>8081020
I sold the entire dangan ronpa trilogy for vita on ebay for $150-200 each. People will be dumb forever

>>8087538
>its dumb to want to own your video games
Yeah ok man

>>8079928
Looking a the names of the people involved in the retro games racket going on is like reading a bar mitzvah guest list

I have basically collected my whole life but I moved to Japan in 2016 so I had to mostly start over, and I traded games as a kid since that was my only way to get new games to play so I don't have all of my childhood games.

I care much more for the cartridge-based systems. I brought my gameboy and ds stuff to japan with me and my n64, Vita and ps4 too. over here I bought a famicom, super famicom, mega drive, pc engine and game gear. I left my Gamecube, PS2 and PSP stuff in America and I'm probably not going to bring them to Japan since they're in English and my sister probably wants them. I'm thinking about getting a modded wii to play GameCube games again, I really don't want to collect disks.

>>8087615
why? you think you're better than discs? you think you can just fuck around? it makes you better? you have all these consoles you areborderline hoarder already. daggers in the heart

>>8087626
I'm not a hoarder lol. All of my games are organized and kept out of sight, I pull one out of the drawer when I want to play.

> you think you're better than discs?
Disks rot. Literally. They also scratch. Sure I have good memories with many games that were in disks but I would much rather use an ODE or a modded Wii. I don't want to deal with buying a game and it needs resurfaced or in he future the layers of the disk literally breaking down.

Cartridges will last well beyond my lifetime. And in the case that they do develop problems they can be easily repaired. The same goes for cartridge-based systems. If a disk drive breaks it might not be repairable.

>>8087671
>disc rot
overblown, This is totally fake. Your discs will not rot in your lifetime let alone your kids lifetime

>>8087671
You realize cartridges are going to rot sooner than discs right? Your hardware is going to fail either way as well... just emulate

>>8087682
>Your discs will not rot
Yeah, sure they won't. Buying a game to find out it needs resurfaced is still a reality than I don't want to deal with, as is disc drives breaking own.

>>8087696
Cartridges won't start breaking down until my children are gone from this Earth. And anything that happens to a cartridge can be repaired, retard.

>>8087712
Prove it. Prove that YOU personally can fix anything that happens to a cartridge. Prove that you can fix anything that happens to a cartridge console.

>>8087737
Prove that I have a soldering iron and a chip writer? Or am I supposed to link you to the replacement components themselves? You picked a really dumb argument.

>>8087757
How do I fix my n64 cartridge in three generations from now

>tfw you sell wind waker/metroid combo as loose, just getting WW and MP1 discs and RE4 cases while making BS stories about no cover

>>8087760
Which part is broken? Describe a (realistic) scenario and I will tell you how to fix it. This applies to all cartridges not just n64

>>8087775
I dunno lol it just doesnt boot

>>8087780
>PCB is fucked
Desolder the chips and move them to a new PCB. There are many in production or you could even make your own. Don't use a cheap Chinese one.
>data on chips is corrupted
Rewrite it
>Chips are fucked
Replace them
->cartridge shell is broken
Replace it
>Label is fucked
Replace it
>Battery is dead
Replace it
>Flash storage chip for save data is dead (sonic 3 for example)
Replace it
>The chip isn't in production anymore but there's anewer type available
Use an adapter (see sonic 3)

>>8087793
how did you get so educated?
do you have any tips for a broken expansion pak

>>8087702
You know I can post a picture of a corroded pcb as well, right?

>>8087856
Tinkering, an just following the retro scene and knowing what's available. Unfortunately not everything can perfectly be replaced, some things require community involvement. Like in the coming years proprietary chips like the NES PPU and CPU will start going bad and someone is going to need to uncap them, document them, and create working replacements.

But so long as there is a working replacement component it can be repaired.

As for expansion packs, I don't know much about them but they're just ram. If it's fried it might be better to just get an aftermarket replacement but ask around and someone might be able to figure out what's wrong with it. Don't throw it out in case it can be fixed.

>>8087878
That's cool, but a corroded PCB can be fixed. The PCB is fucked beyond repair then you can get a replacement and move all of the chips to that. You can't fix a fucked disk.

>>8087928
you cant seriously think desoldering the chips off of two n64 cartridges and transfering one set over to the doner cert and resoldering everything perfectly is at all doable or even will reliably work.
thats on the same level as
>just solder more ram to the n64 and you dont need an expansion pak

>>8087935
>doner
You're a fucking retard I'm talking about a brand new PCB, not a donor. Just buy a new PCB or print your own, but don't get the Chinese shit because that won't work.

If you want nostalgia but without the price, go for the hobbies where the nostalgia bubble has long since popped. HO-scale train sets used to be in this position when greatest and silent gen people were still alive, and now they cost fuckall. Collect some building and people miniatures to go with them. It's like a less autistic Warhammer.

>>8085639
The better question is - when, or rather, if that fad will end. As for the prices, most will plummet or at least go back to acceptable, except for rarities which will stay inflated regardless.

c: 520XV, which probably means things are gonna stay the way they are for quite a while.

>>8079928
thank fuck for emulation

>>8079928
Hey, that's my listing!

>>8083132
It's hardly even this. It's a more organized racket but people that don't care about games, but see an opportunity to fuel a "collectibles" market for their own profit.

As has already been said ITT, the answer is to download roms / isos and play on flashcarts / memory cards / etc.

>>8087942
how the fuck does that work? what ar eyou saying? build my own n64 cart pcb? what the fuck

>>8082898
Agreed.
I used to hoard and collect games for all the systems I cared about, mostly just carts - never cared all that much about CIB (especially for Nintendo). But it took up so much space and I really wasn’t using them - so I sold it all (except my 100% complete Master System collection. Still got that one (and yes it is my favourite system - no matter what people here want to call it)).
Having all the games I want to play on my PC is so much cleaner, and it’s nice to modify the games or their control schemes to suite modern systems.

The only thing I want now out of emulation is proper light gun game modifications using gyro aim or something.

>>8088406
yes, why not?
there are several projects for this, even oben sores

>>8079928
Yup

>>8079928
that game is worth 280 bucks at the most, depending on the condition.

>>8080032
Please alphabetize

>its a bubble
lol
lmao

I have always wanted a complete US retail SNES collection (so no DKC competition or shit like that)- cart only is acceptable. After finishing school, I slowly started working this up. Got to ~100 titles. Then I started making better money and ballooned up to the mid 200s, including "most of the expensive ones" at the time. I figured dollar-wise I was over halfway done. I got married, bought a house, had a kid... generally slowed the fuck down on it. Then I turn around and see modern prices. I am NOT halfway there anymore. Yeah, I don't need Earthbound, or Aerofighters, but all the mid-tier shit that SHOULD have been $20-40 is now $100-$200 and the handful of expensive titles I didn't grab back when are now $500+. I have *thousands* of dollars to go. Just tell me who to blame or how to fix it.

>>8090667
Christ that is a cringe image.

>>8090720
>Just tell me who to blame or how to fix it.
I've been asking this myself, no one can give me an answer.

>>8080032
>Odama in it's box
nice
is it any good? seems janky

>>8090720
Blame? It’s thousands of people like you, just many of them got into it later than you did.
Fix it? A SNES ever drive and then never even think about this problem ever again. Literally your entire problem solved with one cart

>>8079928
I don't mind paying for hardware because software for old systems is basically free. People who buy old games that are easily piratable (especially games for consoles, which nowadays run zero risk of being malware) anywhere but thrift stores and pawn shops and yard sales and etc at scalper prices deserve to be ripped off.
I just realized I hold zero attachment to the discs and carts aside from the ones I had as a kid that I bought or got as gifts. Of course I buy new stuff physically when it's available, primarily because I like to lend games out to friends and no console so far has made it easy to swap digital games, as well as for future archival purposes.
Do whatever you want to do, but in the end what matters is that you are happy with your choices.

>>8085297
You fucking liar, you didnt.

>>8090720
Its people like yourself looking at the expensive titles and going "oh that's gone up a lot" and then decide to buy it because they're trying to get it before it becomes too expensive. The amount of scalpers involved in second hand carts is minimal, maybe there's a handful of guys who shill bid their own ebay auctions but its not actually impacting the price since by definition nobody is actually buying at those shill bid prices.

>>8084160
>sega is unloved
lol even the SMS is worth more than an nes
SMS is more expensive than SNES even
the only 'cheap' sega is genesis

>>8090720
Lmao it's gone up cause everyone else wants to collect too. What makes you think your collection is specialer and you deserve to pay less?

>>8090739
>>8090770
>>8090826
Not buying the "just like me" story. If that were true, the prices would have steadily and slowly gone up. A game that was $50 in 2000 would only be $70-80 now. Who lit the rocket?

>>8090850
And if the answer is 'people just like me, except a lot more of them' then where did they all come from? We didn't have prices surging like this a decade ago. Are zoomers just *way* more into retro games than millenials, so the market went nuts as soon as they had money? Why would that be?

>>8090850
>A game that was $50 in 2000 would only be $70-80 now.
Why? Because your inflation calculator says 50 dollars in 2000 USD would be 70-80 dollars today?

>>8090787
That's due to supply and demand than anything. No one cares about the Master System, but if you want one, it's rarer than an NES you can get anywhere.

>>8090850
>Who lit the rocket?
Again, its people just like you. When people like you started collecting, these things were dirt cheap because nobody who had them care much about them and nobody buying them had a lot of money either so even if a bidding war started it wouldn't go very high. Over time, the amount of clueless sellers went down and the amount of money that collectors had to spend went up.

My rule is usually no games higher than 80-100 dollars. If they truly want 300 dollars for a game, I don't need it.

>>8080292
With today's gas prices you're likely to spend as much driving town to town like a hipster jackass.

>>8090971
My rule is that if it costs more than a brand new car then it’s too expensive.

>>8079928
"Waaaaaaa I'm poor and other people aren't" The Thread

I fail to see how this is a bad thing. It gives market power for innovative products and solutions that give more-authentic hardware experiences while fucking over collectors. It's win-win.

10 years ago you had a handful of hardware products made either by single hardcore fans doing it in their garage as a passion project and hold-over Chinese products which were made as piracy solution back when the games were newer. Now you have thousands of profitable original equipment replacements and mods to old hardware, hardware emulation, etc. Only the people wanting to show pictures of their collection on social media are getting fucked over.

>>8090865
>Are zoomers just *way* more into retro games than millenials, so the market went nuts as soon as they had money? Why would that be?
I don't get why the assumption is always zoomers. Millennials are just as likely to want to buy all the games they never got to play as a kid. If we're assuming they don't want to just because they already have the games, they could just as easily want to increase their stock. When they were kids they had 10 games, now that they have a job and steady income and presumably have saved longer than zoomers, not unlikely at all they'd want a big shelf if they take collecting seriously. Millennials also watched AVGN and other youtubers before or at the same time that zoomers did.

I think really the scene just got too crowded. Too many collectors are out there going after full sets. Too many content creators are trying to make a career out of having a lot of games. And with so many figures promoting, what was a niche audience has widened into millions upon millions, and worldwide, to where Europeans are collecting American games and Americans are collecting Japanese games. Eventually only collectors will have these games, the original owners will have sold them all to shops or collectors.

>>8079928
I got two ps2 games off ebay for $20 with free shipping. For expensive shit like this I just emulate unfortunately. I like the cases and manuals too but $340 is a joke.

>>8080375
once you factor in getting assramed by Paypal and needing to report the sale on your 1040 thanks to Paypal reporting it "for you" he'll be lucky to walk away with $250.

>>8090759
Seethe and Cope

>>8079941
a fool and his money...

>>8090865
>zoomers
It's millenials anon. Millenials got disposable income for the first time because they're in their 30s now.

>>8079928
>not emulating
>ever

>>8079941
>bought anything graded by WATA
I cannot put into words how big of a retarded faggot (You) are.

>>8090865
>where did they all come from?
Where the fuck did you come from anon? What are you asking?

>>8079986
>N64
>Saturn
Those are some gay as fuck systems.

>>8080419
>$3-5
Super Mario Bros. literally used to be 39 cents

>>8080601
>gradschool
>posts on 4chan
nice larp

>>8083218
>Emulation is literally free faggot
>a high end pc is required to properly use some of those free emulators
??

>>8092415
>I'm too dumb for higher education, therefore you all are too
Nice cope. I'm not even grad anon.

>>8079986
>What's the deal with gamecube prices though? Something seems up there.
There are 120 million people who might be buying GC games. Nintendo never factored in the success of the Wii console. They should republish their greatest hits titles.

>>8079935
i only collect fifa games and assassins creed

>>8093338
based normal feg

>>8091185
honestly, the ebay+paypal system itself is probably a major contributor to the inflation of prices. I mean if you're a Euro buying a game from a American, you're paying a shitload of fees ontop of the bid price on the item. There's no way you'll let it go for less than what you paid for it and just turning a profit means the price might have to go up by 20-50% if its just above a hundred bucks.

>>8093487
I don't understand people who say japanese is cheaper. The shipping fees and tax are insane

Honest question: If you're over 30 like I am, how is the spike in retro game prices not a boon to you? You guys still have all your old games right? You just became much wealthier then.

>>8093495
My guess is that its largely a meme repeated by people who don't actually collect Japanese games but bought some during a trip to Japan.

>>8093502
You have to be autistic or a troll

>>8087943
Wait, is train collecting cheap now?

>>8093502
Hardly anyone keeps their childhood stuff anon. The worst is when you're a child with siblings and even though its all technically within the family, your brother can just decide to trade castlevania for mega man 2 one day and suddenly you're lost that game, or your parents buys you a new console with new games and asks you if they can "give" your old games to some other kid.

>>8093510
>Video game board
>Value of physical video games from the point in time before it became mainstream skyrockets
>Somehow this is a bad thing
What are you, a communist?

>>8093518
I literally still have all of my old NES-Genesis and onward games. Chrono Cross for PS1 is black label and still factory sealed since my Dad bought it and I never liked JRPGs. I've been thinking of getting it graded, and I just see these retarded prices and think how much more money it's all worth now.

>>8093523
>>8093528
Ok

>>8093530
Sorry Zoomer, your generation killed gaming and finally my generation gets to enjoy some monetary gain. Blame boomers

>>8093537
Technically it was your generation that killed gaming since you're the ones who developed the games that zoomers play.

>>8093537
I don't understand why you're getting worked up because nobody cares that you want to sell your video games. This is /vr/ not /biz/

>>8093539
You're the generation of people who bought it and called the classics boring garbage. Now you live in your doomed future.

>>8093542
It's a thread crying about video game prices, it's pretty on topic even if it doesn't cater to your commie ass.

>>8093547
That's not true at all though. Nothing you say makes any sense

>>8093547
>The zoomers made me do it!
Oh anon, such a poor method of coping with your own failings

>>8093558
>>8093571
I'm not the one crying about classic game prices because I never sold my childhood and my parents are white so they didn't piece meal it out for drugs or bail either.

>>8093602
childhood is more than video games anon.

>>8093602
Ok

>>8081154
I got it for 6 bucks in a Hollywood video case back in 2014. still own it to this day

>>8091129
>Too many collectors are out there going after full sets.
I already coomlected my full sets for everything and all it cost was a few hard drives. Thanks archive.

>>8094043
do you typically play with original controllers or modern ones for your more recent consoles? I haven't felt any reason to leave dual shock, even pre-analog the controller felt very nice especially since it was very light even if not as mobile or discreet.

>>8094043
based

If I buy some ron Paul certified gold bars and make custom cartridges out of them can I sell them for the price of the gold?

>>8079928
I bought this shit 5 years ago for $45.00. Holy kek lads.

>>8079928
There's still plenty out there that's good and not expensive, stop trying to buy popular meme games you heard about from sucking your e-celeb's cock.

If you've been alive for 30+ years, you already know what's good and can find it cheap. Or you can cheaply emulate or mod your consoles to play pirate copies. Everything can be played for free or cheap if you're not a brainlet.

>>8095286
Im 20 and i hate boomies because i hate emulation and i like modding, but nostalgia overdose niggers need to pump up prices because they need their manchild cave filled to the brim

>>8092429
>a high end pc is required to properly use some of those free emulators
I run everything on my Dell laptop just fine

>>8095680
>because i hate emulation
Lol wtf kind of shit take is this?

>>8094308
I bought radiant dawn for $5 this year, thank god for pawn shops

>>8095751
What kind of pawn shop doesn’t check pricing on items it buys?

>>8095860
His

>>8095860
Ones run by people who don't understand video games.

>>8079928
i really need to finish this...
i also need to finish fe7...
also ghost trick...
and earthbound...
and golden sun...
AND frigin Metroid Dread is about to come out but still need to finish great ace attorney 1&2...

where does the time go /vr/os?

>>8079928
Thinking about selling my PoR for like $40 on ebay auction, post it here, and see how high you all are willing to go since it's still cheaper.
Not sure I want to get rid of it right now, maybe, but just a thought.

>>8080305
>custom joystick

>>8083653
GameCube version of Resident Evil 4 is still the best one, even compared to the overrated Wii version. I could live without the Ada the Spy campaign.

>>8095680
>I'm mad people are doing what I wish I could be doing

>>8095680
You only should have got as far as admitting your age and then close the reply and close this board. I’m sure there is a Reddit site for your age

>>8079928
Game collecting was ruined the second it stopped being a hobby for nerds to play old games and it became an "investment" thing. It was only a matter of time before people would start pumping and dumping and rigging markets and so on. It's time people accepted to just emulate or get SD cards where they can after you see 2 million dollar NES or SNES carts.

>yet another WAAAAHHHH ITS EXPENSIVE ON MY MINIMUM WAGE thread
Quit pretending that the prices of real hardware is keeping you from playing anything. This hasn't been true in a decade. You can emulate most of this shit on a 10 year old laptop with the CPU's built-in GPU. All the prices are doing is preventing people trying to collect on a shoestring budget from getting much. You can't afford it anymore. Either get a better paying job or find a new thing to collect. You don't have the money to pretend to be rich.

>>8096635

Just saw this image on twitter and it confirms sellers are organizing and collaborating to drive up prices

>>8100635
That's not what an ebay message looks like, on desktop or on mobile

Coomlectors deserve all their suffering.

>>8079928
Now is the time to collect PS3 games.

Dude just go to used shops, moms getting rid of their former child's stuff for cheap and such they don't know the prices and you can grab stuff for cheap

>>8100721
These dont exist here dude. everyone literally know what they have here.

>>8100721
Are you a boomer?

>>8079928
This but w/ PC game collecting. eBay killed PC game collecting years ago and it's never coming back. For every Grandma & Grandpa who unwittingly sells you a mint big box Alien Crossfire for $5 bucks, there's a stadium full of assholes who will want $20 bucks for some random "hidden object" game because some other asshole managed to sell it for that much on eBay.

Ain't worth it anymore. Just get it for a few dollars on Steam, Epic, GOG, etc. so forth.

>>8100721
>Dude just go to used shops
oh sure dude, that's not like exactly what a million other collectors are doing. You'd definitely be the only guy that week looking for old games.

>>8100917
so then just give up if you don't want to try

>>8100952
so then don't give advice if you're completely unaware of what the used market is currently like. There are literally no valuable used games to find in thrift stores anymore. Go ahead and try it it yourself this week.

>>8100975
>other people do the same thing so I just better give up
if you don't try, you'll never find anything

>>8100993
I do retard. I've been doing it for 10 years and still do. I am telling you that the well has dried up. Go ahead and look yourself. Post your finds next week and I'll eat my hat.

>>8101026
I don't really have anything I want at the moment but I did get myself a DC, Super Famicom and Jap N64 all for under 100 bucks in the last few months

>>8100917
I'm one of the very few who buy this kind of junk in my city, what are you even saying dude

>>8101063
I am saying that anyone who thinks their local market is indicative of everyone elses, and thinks that the availability of second hand games is just distributed uniformly to every region in the country is a solipsistic midwit who is literally incapable of comprehending anything beyond what is in front of their eyes, like a dog.

>>8083698
i still have my devil's third sealed. Now that my wii u is modded I may never open it.

>>8093528
>>8093518
>>8093502
My parents traded in my NES and games when we bought an SNES. I was really young so I couldn't really say anything. But then in my teens, we got an N64, we had to trade in our SNES and games. That night I realised the mistake that was made, and I haven't sold a game since.

Later in high school I bought an SNES from my friend for 10 dollars, along with some SNES games, SMW, super mario RPG, then my brother and our cousin got into collecting SNES games, this was back when they were like cheap at the pawn store before the bubble formed.

Went off to college and I found out that my sister had traded some of our N64 games and such. But I was able to re-build my childhood SNES and N64 collections, finally getting Turtles in Time last year, though I had to pay 65 CAD. Some of them are super famicom carts, but that's fine to me.

>>8096082
>>8095920
>>8095860
It's getting rarer. These days they just go on ebay and take the highest price it's selling for.

>>8101026
>>8100993
>>8100952
The only thing I find at used shops these days is 360 or higher games. I do find physical PC games, when they were in those bigger DVD style CD cases. They look nice on the shelf.

>>8100721
The time for this is over now, too. More normies than ever "know what they have" due to sensationalist coverage of the retro market.

>>8079928
>Paying for games when you can emulate them for free and it's better than the physical copy.
Derp.

>>8101298
>Why buy when you can emulate
because why not?

why do jap games have value now?

>>8101571
Because the YouTubers figured out that retro games were cheap in Japan and told everyone, so the speculators started buying them up. Then the Japanese figured they could raise their prices.

>>8101319
>i want to buy an old video game
>NO I'M NOT PAYING $10,000 REEEEEEE!!!
Uh, that's not how commerce works anon

>>8101585
Is there anything that e-celebs don't ruin?

>>8101669
>speaking about commerce when you're talking about emulating for free
uh huh

>>8101754
>Is there anything that e-celebs don't ruin?
They haven't ruined my life yet.
Does that count?

>>8085639
it eventually will happen. if not now, then in 15-20 years when the next generation thinks it's worthless and treats it like its worthless

Is this just happening in america? I've had a quick look and I can get mario 64 and a few other games complete in box for about 30 quid

>Video Game Collecting is Dead
My collection of roms is complete according to my standards. Collecting plastic when running the roms on original hardware or hardware with no problems like emulators on a Wii is just stupid at this point.
I get that people enjoy it and it's a hobby, but to many it's all about bragging rights and reselling, which is what drove prices to stupid levels.

>>8102796

This. I have a small library of games for various systems. Some (NES and SNES) I've had since I was kid when they first came out, others I slowly acquired up until around 5 years ago. I thought prices were stupid then, now they have reached a whole other realm of collectarded. I have tentative plans to liquidate most of them and just go back to emulators. I'm especially motivated as I see these older systems breaking down or needing extensive mods to play on modern screens. If I'm just going to play on LCD or whatever may as well use emulation.

>>8100635
stop shilling >>8099210

>>8102812
I personally play on a CRT, but emulate PSX and PS2 on a PS3 and have all the emulators available for the Wii. If a certain game is available for PC, I have a 2011 laptop with W7 connected to a CRT for that and simply pirate GoG versions when available. You can even emulate PC-98 and people are buying the several versions of it due to compatibility issues for different games.

>>8081020
my personal pic ?
13 Sentinels Aegis Rim for the ps4.
Its already getting jewtubers making videos about it being a "sci-fi masterpiece" and the "best game you've never heard of" and it sold abysmally in the west.
you can still get sealed copiea of it for $20-30 currently and mark my words, 5 - 10 years from now that shit will be selling for tonnes.

>>8104185
Too bad it's vanillaware

>>8080032
>tfw work in a charity store and CONSTANTLY get people asking me if we have old games, all the way from little kids to grandparents
>tfw they're never gonna land anything good anyway because i appraise all the electronics, dvds and games and put aside anything decent im interested in for myself
honestly fuck people who go into charity stores expecting to pick up a treasure trove of good stuff, we get countless people asking everyday and I'll let you in on the secret that, yes, staff do pick out the good stuff for themselves, they still pay for it, but if you look in goodwill and wonder why its just piles of absolute shit, its because anything good never reaches the floor anyway.

You emufags reek of jealousy

>>8104215
I'm sorry but no statement where you imply spitefulness towards children and grandparents will ever make you seem like you're valid.

>>8104236
seethe

>>8104250
If you say so

>>8104236
im spiteful towards them because they are the 98th person who's come in within the last hour asking for them and I'm entirely sure they're the ones looking to buy them because they think they're gonna sell it for $$$ online because of the game bubble.
people talk about charity shops as if they are some hidden bastion of great deals but the reality is they aren't.
EVERYONE on staff will buy what they want before it gets put on the floor, morals aside, and chances are there's always gonna be someone on the staff role that knows the true value of shit they're interested in.
I simply wish youtubers would stop encouraging people to look for shit in the worst place possible to look for shit.
they aren't worth it and all you do is annoy staff.
tldr: stop being fucking stupid jews

>>8104252
I think you're just assuming the worst and making up an enemy in your head to be mad at

>>8104256
nigger i work there 40 hours a week, im not making shit up, you're just underestimating the naivety of people

Are old SMT games worth anything these days? I bought them for like $5-10 many years ago

>>8104275
I think you just misunderstood my post

>>8104351
Japanese games, not as much. Unless it's some sort of rare, exclusive novelty game.

>>8104275
I go to my thrift stores mostly just to pass a day off doing something out in town. Helps they are all on the same street. I mostly just look for hardware now, controllers and maybe a console of I'm lucky, but I do sometimes find an actual game I'm interested in and that is nice. For example, I found the complete set of Hitman games (1 to Blood Money) and they all had the instincts and the nice PC box for Blood Money. People just need to go in just to look for stuff and not have high expectations since goodwill puts everything on their website or an goodwill electronic store near them.

>>8079928

Game collecting is another form of retarded mindless consumerism, so good.

WHY
ARE
YOU
RETARDS
NOT
EMULATING

>>8106725
Because it sucks and there are plenty of options to play on hardware

>>8106725
Because some of us enjoy collecting physical releases.

>>8102589
No one wants PAL games anymore since clueless millennials have moved on and nerds know NTSC is the good stuff.

>>8107070
Then you'll have to pay the boomer tax to get your hands on that useless junk, it's simple.

>>8104351
PAL versions are.
Persona 3 FES goes for around $200-300 and 4 goes for around $120.
you used to be able to buy factory sealed copies of DDS up until the last few months for $20 on amazon, but now they're all gone its instantly shot up to like $80.
Soul Hackers is also expensive as fuck.

>>8107125
God I need to find a new series that isn't SMT. I really don't know what would satisfy that itch. I'm not into DQ or FF(aside from fft)

>>8107139
eh, it sucks but if you like smt you just have to make sure to buy them while they're out if you want a physical copy and not get ripped off.
that or get an american ps2 and just buy NTSC versions of the games because they are WAY cheaper.

>>8107195
>>8107139
smt is for normies

>>8107203
its not really though.
if it was secondhand copies of the games would be numerous and inexpensive.
persona 5 is just popular, thats all.
smt V is the first smt game ive actually seen get any physical in store marketing at all in my country.

>>8107207
You're a normie. SMT has been normie franchise forever

>>8107125
for reference heres the price a copy of nu soul hackers for the 3DS

>>8107139
Just pirate...

>>8107269
I've already played all the games

>>8107293
you played the shining series?

>>8102589
>>8107080
MegaDrive PAL games are shooting up in value. It's batshit insane how quickly prices are raising in the EU due to the UK leaving and EU residents getting priced out with import taxes. This is not going to end well. Streets of Rage is now being sold for over £60 at auctions. Something you could easily pick up for like £20 a year or two ago.

>>8107125
Expect the same to happen to Nocturne and DDS1 and DDS2 now that the reprint is no longer cheaply sold and vastly available on any store. It's going the same way as Haunting Grounds.

>>8107940
And I wondered why the mega drive mini doubled in price

>>8107940
yo, wtf
I had that game

>>8107940
Why would a large number of potential buyers exiting the market make the games go up in price?

>>8107996
At the rate it is going there will be no buyers left anymore. I think this irrationally right now is just people panicing and FOMO'ing before prices go even higher and try to finish their collections before they are priced out. The whole ordeal with the UK seems to match this frenzy since prices jumped around the time eBay changed policy.

>>8079928
Have you people ever tried buying anything else that's out of print, like old comic book omnibuses? Shit mooning 5x it's MSRP is just standard.

>>8108083
It didn't just go out of print last year hoss. The problem is 20 year old games rocketed in price in the past 2-3.

Are videogames getting fucked thanks to scalpers/speculators or retarded YouTubers like MetalJesus?