/vr/ - Retro Games

Well something bigger could go wrong put year, you have to blow or used compressed air on car terminals too. I don't know anyone who says don't blow on a electronic coupler that has a good number of pin-outs. Who said it wouldn't work on a cartridge game when it's used all throughout industry?

Strapping a car to a train will make the car move forward, but it doesn't do the car any good.

It damages it because of spit molecules causing oxidation on the contact area when you blow on it.

>>8081031
Based correlation equals causation retard

>>8081046
Literally doesn't fucking matter at all. The nes carts I've blown in since childhood still work fine today.

People don't understand copper corrosion. They think it's like iron rust and will instantly damage the connection if any moisture gets near them (as if there isn't ambient moisture that the cartridge has been sitting in for decades).

That said, blowing is really not very effective. How much aid do you think you're really moving? It can work if it's just light dust, but there are far more effective ways to clean them.

the reason blowing works is that it covers the pins in microscopic water particles that make it easier to bridge a connection if the metal has worn away. unless you literally blow soggy breath all over the thing 20 times a day then the effects of doing this are minimal at best, though it could potentially cause corrosion. clean your fucking pins with 91% isopropyl and qtips and you'll never have this problem again.

>>8081056
This
OP try licking your cartridge contacts next time and you'll see it works with the same success rate

>>8081046
the leads are fucking treated you fucking stupid fuck. They don't oxidize just hanging out in the atmosphere for 25 years, you do that with a straight blade shaver and it will rust in 10 days. Brass and silver in a couple months, you are a goddamn stupid idiot and should get a job.

The trick is to just not have a mouth full of spit when you blow into it. Simple fucking common sense and a understanding of what causes the blowing-corrosion will ensure your cartridge lasts a life time.

>>8081039
yes it would, the car would have less engine wear and tear and have traveled much further than on its own

The NES was the only console you needed to blow on, and even that goes away when you buy a top loader.
Anybody who needed to blow on N64 games treated their property like shit.

>>8081190
Putting a car on a train car would be fine. Strapping it to the side of the train wouldn't. Which one did I say?

>>8081031
I just had my SNES out of storage and none of the games worked. A quick blow into them and the console and they worked. People are stupid.

>>8081231
"a" train

it shouldn't be necessary to explain why "improving" electrical connections by introducing water in between them in a dumb idea. Scrub the contacts with a cotton swab and rubbing alcohol, if that still doesn't work the pins in the socket may be bent.

I find a somewhat common problem with N64 games is that the ground connections on the cart (the little metal tab looking things around the front and back of the cart's opening) don't make a good connection with the housing of the cartridge slot. It's a good idea to clean around the metal housing of the cartridge slot, and if that still doesn't work you can just bend the ground tabs on the cart up a bit so they press more tightly against the cartridge slot.

>>8081063
Human breath has much more humidity than the outside air, especially your faggot breath from all the dicks you suck daily. It does lead to corrosion.
Silver and brass don't rust you dumb fucking nigger.

>>8081046
>>8081283
I think you misunderstand what OP is saying. There are people who claim that it doesn't work at all. How would they get such a retard idea after literally using it for decades of their lives? Because e-celebs told them it doesn't work. Then after the e-celebs said it you had articles coming up saying it and all of a sudden it was "common knowledge". But how did it work then? Reluctant to give any concessions they suggested that the physical movement of taking it out of the console, and people ate that up.

Yes, there are people out there that are really that retarded.

Also when you mention "science" at all, most people don't understand it and are afraid to even question it anymore, so people get away with all sorts of pseudoscientific nonsense that they call "science", and get believed.

>>8081046
>>8081283
I think you misunderstand what OP is saying. He is mocking the idea that it doesn't actually help. There are people who claim that it doesn't work at all. How would they get such a retard idea after literally using it for decades of their lives? Because e-celebs told them it doesn't work. Then after the e-celebs said it you had articles coming up saying it and all of a sudden it was "common knowledge". But why did people notice cartridges working after blowing them then some of the more "eagle-eyed" observers asked? Reluctant to give any concessions they suggested that the physical movement of taking it out of the console and putting it back in removed dust particles and that's why it worked.

Yes, there are people out there that are really that retarded.

Some people will just believe anything. No matter how many years of practice. When you have a few people agreeing to something you could have them believe their arms are an illusion. Also when you mention "science" at all, most people don't understand it and are afraid to even question it anymore, so people get away with all sorts of pseudoscientific nonsense that they call "science", and get believed.

One of my friends used to breath on her PS2 discs if the console didn't see it. Somehow it worked, but I doubt it's any good for the disc's surface.

>>8081062
Tasty snack

>>8081049
Some of the ones I have are fucked up. But I think it's because of how they were stored

>>8081393
Her PS2 was a vorefag

>>8081410
>one of my friends breathed on their PS2 disc
>
>one of my friends breathed on HER PS2 disc
>VOREEEE

>>8081413
It would've been a vorefag if it was owned by a dude too
What kinda disc console works after having discs breathed on?

>>8081420
Fair enough. Just used to 4chan posters doing that sort of shit.

As for breathing on discs, it worked for me, but only because it acted as something to wipe with due to the moisture, not just breathing on it and nothing else. Though not this guy >>8081393

>>8081063
>breath is the same as atmospheric air
I can't with this thread. Has anyone here even finished high school?

>>8081231
>strapping a car to a train
>AKSHULLY I MEANT SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
what an absolute embarrassment you are lmfao

What's with the idiots in this thread talking about water? Do you exhale water like a faucet?

>>8081031
>Then why does it make the game work every time without fail?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

>>8081632
You don't?

>>8081348
logical explanations are more valid than anecdotal evidence

>>8081031
You are only getting moisture on the contacts. Use Isopropanol and Cotton swabs.

Taking a cart out and reseating it helps, not the act of blowing

Try just taking it out and pushing it back in, it'll do the same thing.

>>8081648

>>8081348

>>8081632
I'm gonna repeat what I already asked: Did you even finish high school?

>>8081632
Yes. It's the reason condensation appears on a mirror when you breath close to one.

>>8081632
Wow.

>>8081632
anon do me a favor and step outside in the winter time when it's below 30 degrees.
Now breathe out through your mouth
Explain to me what happens?

>>8081470
He literally FUCKING STYATED
IN THE FUCKING POST
THAT THE FUCKING CAR
WAS FUCKING STRAPPED
TO A FUCKING
MOTHER FUCKING
TRAIN
YOU FUCKING
IDIOT
FUCKING
READ
FUCKER
READ
FUCKER
READ
FUCKER
READ
FUCKER
FUCKER
READ
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FUCKERING FUCK READ

>>8081673
based blithering, seething anon

>strapped to a train
>CANT YOU READ I SAID STRAPPED TO (THE SIDE OF) [t. invisible ink] A TRAIN

>>8081031
Removing and re-inserting the cartridge does the trick 99.99% of the time. Blowing on it does nothing.

>>8081348
It's just the act of replacing the cartridge. Blowing doesn't matter.

>>8081348
is the joke here that you're also describing how the idea of blowing to fix it came into being

>>8081031
you can fix them? how much for your blow job?

>>8081673
lol @ your smoothbrain

>>8081673
HRT. Now

>>8081031
>Open a flea market cart
>Wonderful petrified spit

>>8081031
Placebo spit fegs

Blowing NES carts is part of the true retro experience. If you are not blowing your carts you are a fake poseur

>>8081038
You used compressed air on shit to blow out dust, but in general you don't want to blow the moisture of your breath onto the device. As for the cartridge trick, it's more likely that the simple act of power cycling or reseating the cartridge was the most probable cause of correcting it.

That said, I would love to know how blowing in a cartridge like this entered into people's mindspace. I never did it until I saw my friend do it, and then I feel superstitiously compelled to do it even though I tested it a few times and found out I don't have to do it.

>>8081190
>the car would have less engine wear and tear and have traveled much further than on its own
At the significant cost of completely circumventing the one, single advantage that a car has over a train, that being complete freedom of movement without rails.

That said, the analogy is still ass.

>>8081673

>>8081632
lmao

>>8081458
try blowing on your window and see what what happens to it after about 5 seconds

>>8081031
It literally says on the back of every n64 game not to blow on the edge connector .

I found that urine works the best. How? Grab your nes cart. And take out your dick. Then sprinle a little bit of piss over the gold contacts. Let it dry for 2 minutes. The insert and play. Works great with playstation games too.

>>8081632
maybe they're jewish

Leave this to me.

>>8081031
>not having a few gallons around
can you even consider yourself a man?

>>8082514
You will never be a woman

>>8081657
that only happen to faggots who get all wet in the mouth from thinking about dick. only gay guys leave moist marks on the mirror

>>8081031
I'm about to say something really controversial but licking it works even better.

>>8082542
I'm a man AND a better woman than any real woman.

>>8081632
this is why we can't get out of the pandemic

>>8082761
and that's a good thing

>>8081031
Blowing the cartridge doesn't do anything, just removing and inserting the cartridge a few times cleans the contacts itself.
It's like a old volume knob that start making noise, you just turn it a lot to both direction and the noise is gonne

>>8081031
It could have dust but most likely they’ve got grime in the contacts, people say not to blow because spit can get on them and cause oxidisation

>>8081632
You are literally mostly compromised of water, every bodily function you have, involves water in some way

>>8081393
picturing a black haired latina with a round face

>>8081031

>>8081393
This is different, discs have a clear surface that can improve after cleaning

You can also use these

>>8081031
Cotton swab and alcohol work way better.

>>8081348
it literally It doesn't do anything, unplugging and plugging the cart in its what is "fixing" the game

>>8081638
>>8081652
Not when the logic is wrong.

>>8081907
>>8083362
Idiots. You don't believe your own eyes and experiences because someone on youtube told you it was wrong.

>>8081673

>>8081031
Haha that's cool man

>>8081031
>absolute batshit things we did or believed in the past that makes zoomers look at us like we're senile

that and holding b to increase pokeball catch rate

>>8081046
It's not the cart that it fucks up, it's the console. Pop it open and you will see green shit on the contacts.

>>8083385
Its very easy to get into this line of thinking. You just don't need to ever blow on a game if you clean them. I used to think to get a game to work you had to put it in the right way straight down into the slot. It might seem like it works a few times but your going to go on a roll where that doesn't work and that's when you realize it was just bias. I mean have you even tried using ipa and q tips? I guarantee you that will keep the games working the first time every time much longer then blowing on them will. Also depending on how much you care and how long you want your games to last, just getting the game to work doesn't mean anything. There's still corrosion and oxidation on the pins that can cause the game to freeze or have glitches. Eventually the oxidation will get worse that it'll take a million tries to get it to work or it'll stop working. Now some consoles are different then others, n64 is going to expirience more failures with it's high ram bus. I'm also running into the odd few games now that have ferrous rust on the pins, the type of rust that has a rough texture to it? That is going to fuck up the internal pins on the console.

>>8081031
In 2021 unless the game is new in box will have corrosion or oxidation on the pins. Sure it might work but if you care about them working long into the future there going to need some basic maintenance. The corrosion can also cause the games to freeze or have glitches or it might just take alot of tries to get it to work. There's also ferrous rust that can cause deep scratches into the pins in the console. Now I'm hyper Autistic about cleaning my n64 games I take apart every single one and use pic related until I get about 85 percent of the oxidation off. Then I hit it with dexoit gold d100l to prevent fretting corrosion from happening in the future. It's alot of work but n64 is the only cartridge based system I have, if I had multiple cartridge systems I would probably just use dexoit d5 and q tips. N64 especially through is going to need better cleaning because of it's high speed bus, through the results speak for themselves all my n64 games work the first time.

>>8083385
Literally never watched a YouTube video about cleaning contacts. I just did it myself because I can use common sense and understand how electrical connections work.
And guess what. I visually witnessed my cartridges working flawlessly after I cleaned them you fucking retard.

>>8083385
>You don't believe your own eyes and experiences
I believe my experiences of taking the cart out and replacing it to make it work, actually.

>>8081031
>Then why does it make the game work every time without fail?
The moisture of your breath can create an electrical contact, allowing the game to work.
However, that same moisture will react with the metal pins, corroding them. Blowing on the pins again will provide moisture to better provide contact with uncorroded parts of the pins, but eventually, it'll stop working.

still, even when your game is in that state, it's easy to fix, take some isopropyl alcohol and scrub that shit off
oh, and clean the cartridge slot, your spit is corroding those contacts too

>>8084029
Why tf did you call me a "fucking retard"? I don't disagree with anything you just said. I also understand how electrical connections work and I use isopropyl alcohol and do not blow on them.

What I am saying is that blowing on cartridges also works as has been observed for decades and only a moron would think it doesn't because of an e-celeb. Because with a lot of these morons, they believe anything they see if someone like that says it and it gets passed around websites. Not only do they claim they're correct, they also think they get to comment on the psychology of the people who think it does work all the while blindly following the e-celeb themselves.

If you really think that blowing on them doesn't work, show us any evidence of it. Describe any evidence. Even just a real computer engineer who had worked with cartridges will do, that would be expert witness testimony which is evidence. What I've read so far has been that some so-called "expert", who himself denied he was an expert, claimed that "my money is on it didn't work". That's really all it needs to reverse decades of your own observations? Show me any evidence at all that it doesn't work anyone if it exists, I'd love to see it. Or is it because some guy with glasses said it, is that your evidence? A little critical thinking please.

>>8084029
Why tf did you call me a "fucking retard"? I don't disagree with anything you just said. I also understand how electrical connections work and I use isopropyl alcohol and do not blow on them.

What I am saying is that blowing on cartridges also works as has been observed for decades. With a lot of these guys, they believe anything they see if someone like that says it and it gets passed around websites. Not only do they claim they're correct, they also think they get to comment on the psychology of the people who think it does work all the while blindly following the e-celeb themselves.

If you really think that blowing on them doesn't work, show us any evidence of it. Describe any evidence. Even just a real computer engineer who had worked with cartridges will do, that would be expert witness testimony which is evidence. What I've read so far has been that some so-called "expert", who himself denied he was an expert, claimed that "my money is on it didn't work". That's really all it needs to reverse decades of your own observations? Show me any evidence at all that it doesn't work anyone if it exists, I'd love to see it. Or is it because some guy with glasses said it, is that your evidence? A little critical thinking please.

>>8084029
Why tf did you call me a "fucking retard"? I don't disagree with anything you just said. I also understand how electrical connections work and I use isopropyl alcohol and do not blow on them.

What I am saying is that blowing on cartridges - while theoretically being bad for them in the long-run - also works to get them going again in the short-term as has been observed for decades. With a lot of these guys, they believe anything they see if someone like that says it and it gets passed around websites. Not only do they claim they're correct, they also think they get to comment on the psychology of the people who think it does work all the while blindly following the e-celeb themselves... good joke.

If you really think that blowing on them doesn't work, show us any evidence of it. Describe any evidence. Even just a real computer engineer who had worked with cartridges will do, that would be expert witness testimony which is evidence. What I've read so far has been that some so-called "expert", who himself denied he was an expert, claimed that "my money is on it didn't work". That's really all it needs to reverse decades of your own observations? Show me any evidence at all that it doesn't work anyone if it exists, I'd love to see it. Or is it because some guy with glasses said it, is that your evidence? A little critical thinking please.

>>8085920
>>8085926
Just reseating the cartridge is fine

>>8085942
Blowing still improves the chances of it working though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFWxQtqMkZs

The ironic thing here is how the idea that it was a myth is getting repeated so many times with such certainty by people online with no actual evidence or anything to back the statements up.

>>8084017
>yes goy, stop blowing into the carts and buy our expensive cleaning solution instead! you wouldn't want to "damage" your games would you?

No thanks schlomo

>>8086059
yes be a good goy and listen to mr goldstein here. Blow your carts instead of cleaning the contacts

>>8081062
I used to do this when I was a kid (with spit and all), so I can confirm. The success rate was 100% whenever I did it for years, but then the bridge got all fucked up and it was hard to either put it in or pull it out, not to mention it stopped working altogether. I can't believe I was so fucking retarded

It's a big pain in the ass but if you're having problems with any cart console you can just take an hour and a half, disassemble it, and clean the pin connector with brasso if necessary and then some 94% iso alcohol. What's a slightly bigger pain in the ass, depending on the scale, is doing the same for your carts. But sometimes it's fun to do little activities like this anyway and when it's all done, everything works like it did out of the box. It's really nice.

>>8081039
>Strapping a car to a train will make the car move forward
>>8081231
>Strapping it to the side of the train wouldn't.

>>8085926
We know you think blowing on a cart works but how many times have you blown on a cart and it doesn't work?

>>8086180
Thats the worst fucking thing you can do brasso strips the copper plating off the pins and leaves them far more vulnerable to oxidation and corrosion in the future, use contact cleaner.

>>8086059
> 40 dollar cleaning kit
> Expensive
I believe that it's you who is the rabbi here.

>>8086180
Also fucking Kek why the fuck would you use isp after using brasso? You just finished fucking stripping the pins you need to clean them up after that?

>>8085926
You need to weigh to how many times it doesn't work. I remember blowing on the pins all the time as a child and it still taking twenty attempts. And when it does work all your doing is adding moisture to The pins which is helping conductivity, this can cause an unstable current and cause electrical damage to your system over. It might be years before that happens but it will cause damage, like having a bad power supply, as well making the pins corrode faster. There's a reason it says don't blow on the edge connector on every single n64 game. So really just fucking use isp. It will help with conductivity, and when that wears off if the game isn't working then use contact cleaner. You will never need to blow on them ever again and will stop permeant damage to the games and the system.

>>8082304
No it doesn't the condition of the pins is the only factor, I used think I had to perfectly align the cart into my system to get it to work right to, confirmation bias can sneak up on all of us.

>>8087118
Isopropyl is like $5

>>8087242
Ipa isn't going to remove oxidation and corrosion, it takes off grime and dirt. It does help with conductivity but when it wears off the game will stop being reliable again. Also just because it works doesn't mean it's going to work well. Oxidation can cause the game to freeze or have glitches

>>8087242
Electronics don't just break right away, you can piss in your radiator and have the car run, that doesn't mean it's a good way to run your car. Fucking excuse me me to think that it might be time to give 40 year old hardware proper maintenance

>>8087220
I know, I don't blow on them, I use isopropyl alcohol (frankly these days I mostly use flashcarts even if I have the real carts but that's another story). However blowing does work by some means.

>>8087105
Sometimes but look at the youtube video I posted, he was almost 100% confident the NES game would work after blowing. Again, what's interesting here is the false internet consensus that can occur just because someone with apparent authority makes a claim and sounds sure of it, even if that authority and the logic for the claim evaporates at the slightest bit of scrutiny. Note that I only found that video today, I had long believed the blowing does work, probably by moisture as you say and like many have hypothesized before.

>>8087331
If the only thing you want out of this argument is to sooth your oppositional defiance disorder, through a slight technicality then yes, blowing on the pins will help conductivity and get the game to work but potentially cause long term damage to the system and games, and also does nothing to address the real issue of oxidation and corrosion on the pins.

>>8081031

It blows dust off the contacts. While in theory your humidity or spit particulates can cause rust the amounts most people blow are negligible unless you slobber like a dog.

NES games are all old as shit

In my experience, usually the thing that keeps a game from working is that dust and grime has slowly built up on the pins over decades. For years I thought my NES was broken. Then one day I decided to clean all the pins on my NES and on the cartridges with isopropyl alcohol and cotton swabs. I went through dozens of cotton swabs because there was so much dirt caked on, and when I was done all of my games worked flawlessly. Don't blow on your cartridges OP, clean them properly.

>>8087398
>If the only thing you want out of this argument is to sooth your oppositional defiance disorder,
ah ok, I can see we're done here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7SHLb_z1hU