/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 4.0 >>8054781
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfun

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8059171

VRSKINS 3.9 (delayed)
Submissions closed

=== NEWS ===
[8-23] Tastyspleen and jehar to interview Philnemba tomorrow
https://twitter.com/tastyspleentv/status/1429935692021477379

[8-23] WRATH is confirmed delayed
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1000410/view/2948156118200289059

[8-22] Doom Master Wadazine now has a website
https://wadazine.com/2021/08/our-new-endeavor-the-wadazine-com/

[8-21] Bratwurst: Recooked released
https://youtu.be/6zHGcS50-3Q

[8-20] Quake Speedmap pack 213 is out, themed around low gravity
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62087

[8-20] Killer5 makes some MBF21 maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/124007-zzul-bases-four-easy-to-very-hard-mbf21-maps/

[8-19] From Doom With Love (dsda-doom fork) has now gone public.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123998-from-doom-with-love-experimental-dsda-doom-fork/

[8-19] Quake gets a modern port and update!
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1428403921438101515

[8-16] Two new powerslave maps released
https://www.moddb.com/games/powerslave/addons/temple-of-the-fire-and-the-water
https://www.moddb.com/games/powerslave/addons/forgotten-sanctuary

[8-14] Age of Hell Demo released
https://hellforge-studios.itch.io/the-age-of-hell

[8-12] Quake Enhanced Edition TBA
https://xboxera.com/2021/08/12/a-revitalized-edition-of-quake-to-be-announced-at-quakecon-per-the-now-scrubbed-description-of-the-lets-talk-quake-event/

[8-12] DOOM Retro updated to 4.2
https://www.doomretro.com/

=== PREVIOUS ===
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>>8071969
>>8071978
saved from the last one. ty autist anon.

>>8072235
correction
this one >>8071973

>>8072217
post them, boys.
Wips, ideas, ressources...

>>8072198
Frank Drebin could solo all of Hell without even trying, in his usual oblivious manner.

>>8072259
A sniper rifle with a guaranteed single ricochet.

>>8072259
A freeze ray that makes destroyed enemies explode into shrapnel, but they thaw quickly.

>>8072259
Mayonnaise

>>8072259
a trained hawk that damages enemies and locks them in to a pain animation for a few seconds while you can switch to another weapon and keep killing

I think some anon posted a marine with a pumpkin in the head, can someone send me those sprites? I would need them for the Halloween project.

>>8072259
a dog that hurts the feelings of your enemies

can someone confirm there is a missing monster in this map?

>>8072230
>The only downside to AD is finishing it and there not being more.
the only logical step is trenchbroom

>playing doomrpg+doomrl arsenal+doomrl monsters
>generate random map pack with obsidian
>midway through
>flying teeth testicles (or teethticles as I like to call them) start showing up
>status effects up the ass at the slightest, but they die with the breeze
>"gee wilikers that was annoying I sure hope these fellas won't start spawning in the LITERAL HUNDREDS over the next few maps haha!"
any of you frens ever played around with these mods?
how can I deal with the absurd hordes of these nigglets the game keeps throwing at me at later levels?
should I just invest in energy+regen and spam pink aura, then tank and fire away?
god damn they went too far in a few places with them shits

>>8072259
baby mice gun

>>8072442
DoomRPG fucking sucks, throw it out.

>>8072442
I'm gonna second what that other Anon said: trash DoomRPG, as it's a fucking balancing nightmare where power creep comes in hard. So everything has a gorillion hitpoints but you do a gorillion damage, so you're either blitzkrieging everything or a stiff breeze kills you instantly.

>>8072442
i only have experience with them in regular doomRL, they're bad but as long as you don't panic and get them before they get you (corner explosives or high firerate weapons) you're good.

>>8072198
>leslie nielsen died 11 years ago

>>8072516
Two words: New York City

>>8071976
oh, I now remember the quake dark ages from 1996 to 2010

>>8071976
>No Zerstorer Jam
>No Tronyn maps at all
It's a good list but that is a great shame.

>>8072198

>>8072205
Not today, sorry. I'm hunting for animators at the moment, which is somehow more fucking frustrating than playing shitwads. Maybe tomorrow m8.

>>8072198
Hell will fear the fury of Enrico Palazzo.

>>8072202
New KMQ2 test build
https://leray.proboards.com/thread/4108/new-kmq2-test-version-2021


Changes since last build:
Added r_mode_desktop cvar to force borderless window mode to desktop resolution
Added new graphics for text field, text box, and slider menu controls
Improved mouse interaction for slider menu control
New network protocol version to fix an old bug (this is not final, changes may still be made, so don't go recording demos or setting up a KMQ2 server)
Improvements, bug fixes, and new skin for Tactician Gunner in missionpack DLL
Added ContactGrenade (32) spawnflag to Gunner to set contact grenades in default Lazaurus and missionpack DLLs
Added powerarmortype entity field to default Lazaus DLL (setting to 1 sets power screen instead of power shield)
Added support for blood_type value of 4 to default Lazaurus and missionpack DLLs
Added support for Lazarus initially dead monsters (health < 0) to missionpack DLL
Added resettargets developer command to default Lazarus and missionpack DLLs
Added hint_test developer command to missionpack DLL
Fixed crash vulnerability in hint_test developer command in default Lazarus DLL
Fixed freeze developer command in default Lazarus and missionpack DLLs so it can be used more than once
Fixed firing player weapon while using spycam/remote turret in default Lazarus and missionpack DLLs
Tweaks to Zaero pushable crates and exploding barrels in missionpack DLL
Fixed pain skins not showing for soldiers at half health in Zaero DLL

So what's the best Quake 2 source port for singleplayer and co-op? I've recently been using vkQuake 2, but I've heard it's actually pretty shit.

>>8072706
I just use Yamagi

>>8072580
It should be obvious the author of that RPS article has never played any of those custom maps. The QM discord basically told him what to write for the list. In this case, all the ones that THEY worked on.

The hell is with the right-stick deadzone in this Quake remaster. Did anyone actually try playing the thing with a gamepad before they ported it to every console?

>>8072749
Well, to be fair......


>using a controller for Quake

am I a retard for liking quake 2 more than 1

>>8072439
This is partly why i started dabbling with trenchbroom, but im still yet to gitgud and i haven't had much time to put toward it lately.

>>8071976
As >>8072032 said, quoth and zerstorer would be good recs. Also ter shibboleth.

The problem with their AD recs is that they're showing off the peak, and while the rest of AD is great too, i feel like starting off at the latest and best map may make the rest feel like one is chasing that high?

I'd have thrown in an 'explore jam' and something rocketjump/speedrun focused for a bit of an alternative showcase but overall a pretty good intro list.

>>8072775
Maybe. Quake2 is fine, but it's pretty one-track imo, both thematically and gameplay wise.

>>8072540
The speed map packs prior to 2010 get pretty flakey and crap, it's really a drastic average quality increase after 2010-2012

>>8071976
jam1 is a bizarre rec, a literal brown sewer theme with half the maps unfinished and some having you plink at ogres and deathknights with single sg.
but yeah, no quoth, no warpspasm, no than maps, no tronyn maps...

>>8072752
>using a mouse for doom

>>8072891

>>8072891
Romero did that.

>>8072905
Paul Romero plays Doom?

>>8072919
Nah, George A. Romero did.

>>8071776
Nothing too substantial for a remaster. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that people still have problems understanding which one is which, even if developers themselves state that it's a re-release.
To be fair, same developers also often don't get the terminology right. So yeah.

>>8072940
So you agree BFG Edition is the worst?

>>8072940
it's a stupid trend, and these are stupid terms, but they did literally remaster sounds and maps from sources. a re-release is when they just plop out the original version with dosbox strapped onto it.
shock1 classic is a re-release, shock1 enhanced is a remaster, shock1 remake is, well, a remake.

>>8072652
What ammo do you use for animators?

So no Wrath?

>>8073024
Burgerbuck shot

>just remembered this shit exists
Anybody else here remember this thing? I remember playing the shit out of the tutorial level when I had it on a PC Gamer demo disc.

I WANT TO CARRY EVERYTHING WITH ME IN HIDEOUS DESTRUCTOR AHHHHHHH

>>8073067
You don't need to carry everything. But if you really want to, just turn the encumbrance multiplier down to 0 in the HD options menu.

Even the trash enemies can't ruin the incredible experience of Ion Fury

>>8072949
Haven't played it (or original DOOM 3), but yeah. I've seem that there're many issues with its version of classic DOOM games, not to mention "the main thing". 2019 version is likely even worse due to lack of multiplayer.
>>8072954
>it's a stupid trend, and these are stupid terms, but they did literally remaster sounds and maps from sources.
Yeah. To me, main defining feature of remaster is "significant" graphics update to the original game. It might be put in a wrapper or different engine, but I don't think latter is a good justification for calling it a "remake" as (for the most part) remaster is still the same old game. So I would put Enhanced Editions of both System Shock and Quake in "re-release" category.
Remakes are kind of a stupid trend though. The more I think about it, the more they come off as lazy reboots: why not just make a full-on new title instead? You're not far off from that either way. But whatever, who cares as long as there's a clear understanding of the fact that remakes are not these old games. For example, if you want to play Half-Life, the answer should be Half-Life. Not Black Mesa as its a different game and implies to all remakes.

>>8073089
Aye

>>8073059
I dont think I've ever heard of this one.

>>8073059
Yes Anon, I actually thought that I broke something in my computer as a child when the Players craft started spinning to the left uncontrollably in the demos training section...

So if I want to upload an updated file to idgames, do I just upload it the regular way with the same filenames and all that and it will be overwritten or do I have to email them?

>>8073151
Probably better to e-mail them just in case. They will e-mail you anyway asking for confirmation, so mailing them ahead would speed it up a bit either way.

>>8071969
literally who

>>8073089
Fuck you too buddy :^)

>>8073059
What's with it? The game took a long time to develop, over two years. Small team underestimating how difficult game making actually is.

https://open.spotify.com/track/4lTq90NRetAupM7jZUbkLc?si=c2687aaebbeb4212

The best track on the Ion Fury OST

>>8073152
Thanks, will do

>>8073059
>doesn't want to launch the main menu on Win10, cuts to desktop after the post-intro Loading screen
Sad.

>>8073293
Yeah, we know

>>8073312
use VM

what are some wallpaper worthy wads

Doom 64 steam port is preddy gud
any other shooters that work well with a gamepad? I kinda like playing in bed on my laptop

>>8073337
Yes, they're called other fucking genres

>>8073293
>subjective opinions

>>8073337
shadow warrior

>>8073353
thanks I heard good things about that one

>>8073353
wait a second isn't that one really hard? you trying to trick me?

>>8073353
Nu-SW maybe

>the music
>the whole temple deal
>permanent upgrades (including double jump), pots with ammo\health
Man, that's some comfy shit.

>>8073368
>comfy
The last thing that comes to my mind when playing Quake

>>8073337
morrowind

this guy comes and slaps your girlfriend on her ass
what are you gonna do about it?

>>8073371
what's the first thing that comes to your mind?

>>8073374
jesus this model looks horrible

>>8073371
And the map's pretty different from my other experiences with Quake. There's also way too much ammo on the top level, so you just blast anything that's not Shambler.

>>8073371
please don't tell me you're scared

>>8073374
pick up her pieces

>>8073374
she's toast, I straferun out of there and go looking for a lightning gun

Is there a way of increasing keyboard turn speed in Crispy? Or at least turn off that annoying acceleration?

>>8072259
Not a weapon but an enchanted sniper scope attachment that does the following
>increase weapon damage, range, and accuracy
>reduces fire rate to a quarter
>turns any projectile weapon into a hitscan (including weapons like Rocket Launchers)

>>8073435
>turns any projectile weapon into a hitscan (including weapons like Rocket Launchers)
JESUS CHRIST HOW HORRIFYING

>>8073337
some people say xinput works great in gzdoom and raze

idk don't have a gamepad to confirm

>>8072198
which unreal tournament has the least small playerbase? (excluding ut4 because I play on a toaster)

>>8073374
Why is the shambler in pyjamas? Isn't fur enough?

>>8073375
Boobs

>>8073435
sounds doable using the tome of power as a base

https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1430784848629837824
...damn.

>>8073374
Ask him why does light come out of his crotch.

>>8073505
who?

>>8073505
"Banco Santander, S.A, presents RetroQuad"

>>8073098
Clint, stop ruinning from reviewing Battlezone 98.
ok that the red odyssey is soul crushingly hard and the late NSDF and Soviet missions are rage inducing shitshows.
and you can put that on Dumptruck

>>8073618
It is? I finished Battlezone in '98.

>>8073628
Red Odyssey is hard as fuck as normal mode and stupidly fuck you in hard.
All because of "Chink Snipers"

>>8073634
The expansion, got it. Never played that one.

>>8073639
the steam release nerfed the difficulty of that one.

Serious Sam 2 allowed?
Croteam patched the game in March after a 15 year hiatus. Optional additions like the x11 enemy spawn multiplier, dual wielding, sprinting and rocket jumping break the game in hilarious ways

>>8073505
i'm pretty sure he's gonna hang himself someday.

>>8073672
How does dual wielding work?

>>8073672
>dual wielding, sprinting
Finally finished game on Serious thanks to those two. Dual wielding helps to deal with retarded 25% health increase. Sprint is nice considering how fucking slow Sam is by default. Seriously, his walk speed feels slower than any other game in the series.

>>8073505

Someone needs to tell this guy about IVAs and debt relief orders and shit, fuck. Even the USA has shit like that.

Most the time bailiff threats are just there to scare you into coughing up what you can, on the assumption that you can pay but simply refuse; when you're genuinely broke it's literally not worth their time to go after you that hard for a measly $4000.

t. was in over £10,000 worth of debt at one point but the only thing the banks ever got out of me was £5 a month and a middle finger.

>>8073743
I've had bailiffs come to by home for less than £100. For someone who used to live there.

>>8072259
A rocket cluster bomb launcher. It shoots a projectile that bounces off of a surface into the air, then that shoots out rockets in all directions surrounding it.

>>8073698
You press a button and pull out another gun.

>>8073753

There's bailiffs, and then there's "bailiffs".

Most of them are the latter and they have about as much real jurisdiction as TV license inspectors, i.e fucking none.

>>8072259
A vacuum cleaner you can use to suck in corpses (intact and gibbed).
With altfire you can then reverse and shoot gibs at your enemies.

>>8072929
Explains why they're called "zombiemen" instead of possessed soldiers I guess

>>8073693
Eh-h-h... He tried something before, but wasn't successful. Not sure if he tries something again, even though you can't be sure about person in situations like these.
https://twitter.com/mankrip/status/1391212224295936004
>>8073743
Honestly, maybe I could've look into that. My family is also in ~$7000 debt and they're not getting much from us either. Recently they did cut off electricity for us (stuck like that for 11 days) and will keep doing so if we wouldn't pay even just 100₽/$1.
But I'm stupid 20y/o with clear mental issues that can't even force himself to see doctors, so it's more likely for me to lurk here and spending time on a blog that nobody reads.

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU ADD NEW STATES IN DEHEXTRA

>Dimension of the Machine
>Sandy's Room
>find all secrets, all enemies but two dead
>can't find them, assume they just failed to teleport in and walk over to the exit
>exit portal suddenly shoots back down a hall while I'm chasing it like an idiot
>it finally stops
>drops two spawns on my head
evil

>>8073595
Hes a conjured minion summoned by the horn power-up, dear Anon.
Too bad you need to kill him for a perfect killcount...

Wtf

>>8073928
International Red Cross doesn't like genericisation of their protected symbol.

>>8073930
>their protected symbol
They can fuck right off t b h. Trying to trademark a symbol that isn't even originally theirs. That shit never worked in Europe until the US forced this copyright nonsense on us.

>>8073951
It's not like they're trying to create a brand for a product. The Red Cross has a legitimate purpose, and it's for the best that any random fuck can't just use it.

>>8073960
Sure let's stick hearts on every health container then

>>8073967
I like the inverted red cross, personally.

>>8073971
Same. I would just go with this.
I get why the red cross clamps down on it, but it's not like anyone is going to throw video games at people in an emergency situation.
They're protecting a copyright in an industry that it can't even be used in an official capacity in.

i used to think they were gonna remove the jesus imagery in quake, just so a bunch of idiots would justify the censorship saying they're canonically tying the games to the doom universe and how jesus has to be removed because he contradicts the maykrs from doom eternal

>>8073983
Being lax with it leads to a slippery slope.

>>8073951
>Trying to trademark a symbol that isn't even originally theirs
This. They should use the Red Star of David symbol instead. It's not like the organization is Christian or Muslim anyway

>>8073967
>here's your Nu-Doom medkit bro

>>8072442
They're bastards in Shut Up And Bleed, where they replace Lost Souls, and can on Pain decide to charge you, exploding violently on impact. I loved it once I understood it.

>>8072454
>>8072478
>DoomRPG fucking sucks
pls no I find it fun
but yeah it's a balance nightmare, those little shits can inflict most status effects while using doomrpg, and they spawn GORILLION on the latter levels, shit becomes unplayable if you're not immune to status effects somehow when they show up, and they mostly always show up
I wonder if this blessed mess could be balanced or properly tuned somehow, or maybe I can git gud instead

>>8074021
man these fuckers are annoying everywhere

>>8073967
I don't see the problem with this personally. I'll never understand pills however.

>>8074029
Many painkillers come as pills. Also Rx.

>>8073971
>>8073983
For me it's Swiss cross

>>8073983
This or green crosses are the best compromise.

>>8074053
Best option is to not fall for this and use the red cross.

>>8073987
I just perused through the Geneva convention, and it's updates, and as far as I can tell the international treaty only protects it's use on naval ships...
I could've missed something, but I keep seeing it said that it protects it's use unilaterally, but I don't see that anywhere in the chapters about distinguishing emblems (red cross, crescent, and lion).

>>8073772
Fractal Doom did this, I think

>>8074039
Rx means "prescription".

>>8073967
I will, thanks.

are there any software rendered quake sourceports that playback the cd music
all of them hardware accelerated graphics instead and flat

Guys, have anyone dumped this yet?

>>8074079
its been dumped a longass time ago, and is a shit wolf-3d like than duke

>>8074068
Yeah, Steroids can be prescribed. What's the issue?

>>8074084
I meant this particular re-release, with some changes and other stuff.

>>8073368
I'm saving Tears until almost last because I don't want to be spoiled by a 2020 map when I'm playing all these 2013-15 ones. But I continue to be impressed with basically every level I jump into, the Necromancer's Keep was amazing and could double up as a fun Halloween level.
>Climbing out of your grave like Caleb in the beginning
>All the monsters being there makes sense because they could be summoned/employed by the necromancer
>All those cool traps and areas of the mansion
>The final fight up a towering enchanted library where you have a boss fight against the necromancer and he ends up taking multple forms
Hell, I even somewhat enjoyed Obsessive Brick Disorder by the end, even if it was an eyesore to look at. Does AD even have bad maps? Most Doom projects usually have at least a couple dragging them down a bit.

>>8071976
>literally all post-2010
>majority post-2016
Come on. They should have more respect for the history of modding, not just recent Trenchbroom maps.

>>8074048
I like red medkits with white crosses on them.

>>8073983

>>8073983

>>8074101
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yem_iEHiyJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs1C2mvmT_8
Soul

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Np6I0XbrUUc
Cool shit

>>8074108
rip doomdude

>>8073849
>Sandy's Room
>drops two spawns on my head
Ha, that's actually a good joke/trap.

Can anyone reccomend me some weird Russian wads? I have gotten a craving for them.

I have played through A.L.T. and Whitemare 1 - 2 already.

>>8074152
Doxylamine Moon : Overdose
Also most anything else by Lainos

uh vkbros... why am i stuck in the ground?

>>8074152
Bloody Steel

>>8072580
>>8072854
>>8072868
>>8074095

Again, the author Robert Yang does not play Quake or has extremely limited knowledge of it. He literally went to the QM discord and asked the admins what maps to put on the list, which as you can imagine most entries were all of their own. That list is not Robert's own opinion, its QM's.

>>8074201
QM?

The Edge of Oblivion in Scourge of Armagon has very much a Q3A vibe, with the "floating platforms in space" theme and the layout and all.

Was this the first map of this kind or am I missing something? Did Scourge of Armagon influence the main series?

>>8074015
Unironically very neato

>>8074210
Pandemonium is another one that felt very Q3A to me

>>8074105
Holy fuck, that's a fat fucking sperm.

>>8074218
this goblin looks like he's recording a rap music video

>>8074208
Quake Mapping discord

>>8074210
I hated that level.
Ziggurat Vertigo minus the fun.

>>8074152
Everything made by Alexander S. Epic 1&2, remain 1&3, and the horror collection.

>>8074076
winquake mark v

Is there a way to disable retarded screen shake in Dissolution of Eternity? This shit is infuriating. I though it would be one time gimmick but then ANOTHER FUCKING MINES LEVEL.

>>8074180
Because you're... filtered. Ugh.

>>8074210
Yeah it was the first and no surprise Levellord designed it, also like a lot of Duke's secret levels it's just a DM map with enemies.

>>8074086
here you go
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lpdo3ycx6h6pf10/DUKE%20NUKEM%203D%20%28W%29.md?dl=0

How the fuck does he still look like he's 25?

>>8074440
I love you, anon! Thank you!

>>8074467
megatextures

>>8074467
He injects the quake source code into his dna daily to become immortal and never age

>>8072514
you made me feel something mate, i'm not sure if that was good

what am I missing

>>8074482
a girlfriend

>>8074482
ZDaemon

>>8074492
i'm gay

>>8074482
From Doom With Love

>>8074482
Hacx 1.0
The superior version.

>>8074474
You made be spit out my tea.

Third barrel is gimmick.
Fourth barrel is for tryhards.
Grappling hook attachment? Spare me from this cringe.
Give me that old-time double-barrel,
Give me that old-time double-barrel
Give me that old-time double-barrel
It's good enough for me

>>8074494
get you some dick then, whatever.

>>8073059
Had some fun with a demo of this - never found a physical copy of it in any games store way back then...

>have to hit a switch directly above me
>can't as the Steam version can't aim directly up
Nice one.

>>8074474
meme tech t b h

>>8074467
He's probably already in a robot body he made himself.

>>8074510
But what about, ten barrels???

>>8074558
Bombshell/Ion Fury had a good implementation of multi barrel nonsense

>>8074570
>but real players aim for 100%
Yikes, problematic.

>>8074574
truth has to be spoken

>>8074467
No smoking, no drinking, no stress.

>>8074467
No drugs, good food, physical activity

>>8074550
Walk backwards fag.

>>8074651
>walk backwards
>my cursor is now pointing at the switch
>the metal rim of the manhole is in the way though lol

>>8074510
Nothing wrong with four barrel you chicken shit.

>>8074734
It's all on the reflexes

>>8074734
Hello worst shotgun from Build trilogy.

>>8074085
I thought you were intending that Rx could be a replacement for the +.
By the way, Johnson & Johnson can use the red cross since they've used it since before the Geneva convention. Whole thing is shot to putt before the articles were even signed.

>>8074761
That's not Duke shotgun.
>trilogy
Shit meme.

>>8074467
He doesn't really. He's aged well, but that pic is a little old, and has some generous lighting. But he is in good health.

>>8074761
>best
yes.

>>8074818
>That's not Duke shotgun
Duke shotgun is a honest, reliable, hard-working weapon, not unlike Doom shotgun. Riot gun just throws the pellets all over the place, pretty much Doom 3 shotgun but with burst-fire mode.

>>8074493
what's the difference with zandronum?
>>8074498
isn't that a compiled exe?
>>8074497
isn't it basically prboom+ with tweaks?

>>8073030
Check the Steam community page. Officially pushed back to 2022.

>>8074857
...You ARE using the burst fire mode, right?

>>8073449
playing duke doom shadow warrior and blood with a remote
>cringe
Jk but i use to play alot of console ports of games wasn't a PC gamer until kinda recently and idk if i could ever go back to playing any old school FPS with a remote.

>>8074915
I mean, it's the only way to make this piece of junk at least marginally useful. It's no surprise shotguns sucked in reboots as well, it's not like the original set a good precedent.

>>8074761
Most versatile I'd say. Single fire is for fucking up smaller enemies at mid range and burst is for annihilating anything that stands directly in front of you.

>>8074482
Eternity Engine obviously

>>8074879
>what's the difference with zandronum?
Zdaemon and Odamex are their own communities, they're worth installing and setting up if you like vanilla doom multiplayer. Zandronum's community is generally more focused on mods and multiplayer TCs.

>>8074932
I dunno what to tell you man. They drown you in shotgun shells, and it's fun to fuck up enemies just holding down M1 and knowing you're filling them with tons of pellets.

>>8074932
you are entitled to you opinion even when it's shit

>>8074939
that dude doomkid has a pretty good video on setting up multiplayer for all the multiplayer source ports at one time good video.

>>8074915
Not that anon, but burst fire is indeed what makes the weapon usable (arguibly enough to make it solid,) but ONLY the burst fire. It overlaps a niche with other weapons because of it, when shotguns are generally supposed to fill the "ducking out of cover just long enough to snap one shot" niche. SW's weapons are pretty unconventional and I love em, but their unconventional nature can be a massive negative for some people. By comparison, Duke and Shelly's shotguns fit the stop and go niche perfectly, and Caleb's would if it weren't for cultist's instant reflexes.

>>8074570
one thing that irks me about the secrets in this game is when one officially "ends" an area and not just walking through a loading zone.
It has a big message on the screen
>You only found X/30 secrets. Are you sure you'd like to continue?
First few times i saw that. I literally went back and wall humped for an hour to find like one or two more secrets.
While cool didn't really add anything. Idk

>>8074936
>Single fire is for missing smaller enemies at range and burst is melee weapon that takes ammo

>>8074949
Like, why would you need to duck out of cover in SW when you have a fucking grenade launcher?

>>8074949
trash opinion, git gud

>>8074940
The TNT shotgun in Final Doomer is basically what the Riot gun should have been. Faster reload, less spread, fire modes handled by holding instead of toggling, and a lot more ammo capacity. Half the reason to use the riot gun is to burst shit down asap, but also because you get an absurd amount more than you can carry in any given area

>>8074857
>Riot gun just throws the pellets all over the place, pretty much Doom 3 shotgun
Never had a problem with both.
Probably because the games are fast enough to allow you to use them nearly point blank.

>>8074953
Not for me and I'm playing SW since release.

>>8074967
>Half the reason to use the riot gun is to burst shit down asap, but also because you get an absurd amount more than you can carry in any given area
Yeah and it's fun! C'mon dude.

>>8074962
I said I like it, you mong. I can just understand why people dislike it, especially since it does a shit job at "actually being a shotgun."

>>8074983
git gud scrub

>install FTE
>use the preset for advanced graphics
>it doesn't tell you that you need to download Afterquake visplanes for the transparent water to look correctly

I like Riot Gun - that's a personal weapon

>>8074993

>Where are the Imps?
I sawed those demon
>Where are the Cacodemons?
I sawed those demon
>Where did all the Barons of Hell go?
*chainsaw revving*
I saw Jon, it's what I do

>>8074467
an exclusive diet of medium pepperoni pizza and diet coke

>>8074993
The engine isn't magic, anon. Maps still need to have adequate data for graphics to work correctly.

>>8074949
>It overlaps a niche with other weapons because of it, when shotguns are generally supposed to fill the "ducking out of cover just long enough to snap one shot" niche.
This, the whole point of shotguns is front-loaded damage. Wang's shotty requires you to both get close and keep it on target. Shredding through enemies at point blank range is satisfying but seeing some shitty ninja surviving supposedly lethal volley just because you were couple steps too far is such a boner killer.

>>8074879
It's dsda doom with tweaks which means it also has support for all the new formats coming out recently.

>>8075009
allegedly wherever he orders his pizza from charges him the price from 1994 or something
>Ah yes. that'll be 6 dollars
dude must eat insane amounts of pizza
its not even really that bad for a person considering what it is
>bread/dough
>tomatos
>cheese
>pork and beef
>lil bit of olive oil

>>8074998
>THUNKTHUNKTHUNKTHUNK
>*clickcli*-
>THUNKTHUNKTHUNKTHUNK
It's a lot of fun. Also found out that a few uzi pellets followed with a shotgun burst takes out the female ninjas, the guardians, and most of the non-standard evil ninjas. Hell, even a full to-the-face burst is enough to even take out a shadow ninja.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=944mNPsSu6Y
Vtuber playing Doom 2.
She's using GZDoom.

>>8075053
I've been waiting for that old reaper hag to play real doom forever. I'll take whatever I can get.

>>8075053
what's with the anime character talking when she does?

>>8075012
>doesn't provide it with the port
>doesn't give you a warning that something is missing or disables the option
>the thing that makes it work is under a mod section
I don't exactly mind it, but it's unintuitive as fuck.

>>8075059
That's her

>eceleb is playing videogame
Nobody cares.

>>8075069
that only raises further questions

>>8075075
the way it's supposed to be

>>8074915
>non-burst riotgunning
I decided to dick around and try it for a bit.
I'm not sure how I feel about it still, but I will say that it's nowhere near as bad as I thought it was going to be.

>>8075053
Fucking zoomers

>>8074993
I found FTE impossible to set up to my liking
good luck

>>8075051
Holy BASED webm maker shutting faggots down

>>8075105
worst thing about it for me is the weightlessness of the weapons when firing.

>>8074201
The boy looks like he's using a book to summon something but instead, a bunch of backpacks fly at him.

>>8075053
Added to my watch later thanks anon.

I was having fun until scourge of armagon
should I drop it and move on

>>8075117
Move on to what? Just in general?

>>8075117
>until scourge of armagon
That's literally peak official Quake.

>>8075117
Scourge is generally the favorite piece of official Quake content so if you don't like it, it's probably best to move on to Arcane Dimensions.

>>8075105
I can see why. Not that it's going to stop me just yet. I still haven't even tried to go through the config file.

>>8074482
deleting everything and downloading quake

>>8075136
I already have winquake

>>8075117
spikemines die from a single nail. other than those I think SoA is on par with E1-E4, while DoE is much worse. DOPA gets spammy with enemies, you'll like it if you liked E2.

>>8075140
DoE has a great opening level, but the first episode is indeed pretty weak. Second episode is definitely on par with Scourge though. DoE gets too much flak and I will die on this hill.

how do i fix the flickering textures in quake, happens in both quakespasm and vkquake?

>>8075179
Whereabouts in what map?

Are these iwads archived anywhere?

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Freedoom#Commercial_derivatives

>>8075128
Then official Quake is overrated

>>8075197
Niggur

>>8075190
is freedoom archived? probably? Idk where to find em all those tbqh. I know one version of "freedoom" comes with Brutal Doom The Starter Pack.

>>8075190
They're most likely just older versions of Freedoom, though pinpointing which one would be useful information alongside each release.

>>8075190
Ive played the Bastards TC before, its alright.
https://files.catbox.moe/lgobsf.pk3

>>8075197
Just like official Doom past the shareware.

>>8075190
>Unlike the Doomsday games, MoaLab's releases rely on the Oblige level generator to generate new levels, which are then put up for release on the app store.
That sounds even more shit than FreeDoom is already.

>>8075210
>>8075197
There's no need for posts like these.

>>8075197
If it clicks, it clicks. If it don't, it happens. I still suggest Arcane Dimensions and other quake mods and maps.

>>8075179
>>8075183
happens in several places and all sorts of textures - i think it's always on the walls

>>8075232
Could be an issue with the original map. Run the same area in FTE. If it isn't present in FTE, that's a genuine bug the vkQuake author should know about.

>>8075232
it's a map problem, try gl_zfix 1 in quakespasm

>>8075246
>>8075232
Its just z-fighting because two brushes occupy the same coordinates. In the software renderer, the world (non-moving) geometry would always take precedence and hide the moving geometry. Source port hardware renderers dont account for this.

>>8075117
I wasn't a huge fan of Scourge of Armagon but the end boss redeems it somewhat by being the first actual boss fight in Quake.

>>8075254
ok yeah i've heard that before. is there anything i can do to fix it? it's not a big deal anyway

>>8073951
It also happened to the Duke3D anniversary edition or whatever the fuck Randy "I'm a hack" Pitchford called it.

And now I have flashbacks of Randy "I'm a failure" Pitchford being a failure... like whhen he removed the Megaton edition off Steam to sell the "new and improved" version with a Jon StJon on Thorazine:
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/articles/duke-nukem-3d-megaton-edition-removed-from-stores-in-favour-of-the-new-anniversary-world-tour-no-linux-support.8333/page=2
And then the 20th anniversary edition was temporarily removed from Steam due to DMCA claims.
https://www.ibtimes.com/why-was-duke-nukem-3d-world-tour-removed-steam-2647715
But then it came back and Bobby Prince sued Pitchford...
https://www.trueachievements.com/n39111/duke-nukem-3d-takedown

What a miserable sack of shit.

>>8074087
Tears might be the most visually impressive, but I feel like other levels (at least those in the main hub and not homages to existing levels) stand up to it quite well in terms of level design.

>>8075117
Scourge of Armagon is trash, rife with bullshit difficulty such as spawning enemies behind your back at every occasion, refilling rooms with mobs and spamming vores and shamblers. Dissolution of Eternity is much better, proper level design and all.

>>8074087
>Does AD even have bad maps?
Not a one.

Obviously Shrak is the best commercial Quake expansion.

>run into invincible monster bug in Eternal
>run into invincible monster bug in Eternity
Nice.

>>8074087
>Does AD even have bad maps?
Nope. They are all between great and the best of quake.

Pretty safe to assume ad will be in the official addon list eventually right?

>>8075425
I wouldn't think so, it currently uses a lot of Hexen 2 assets.

>>8075432
They worked with one wad to remove or change some graphics. How deep does it go? Just textures or models?

>>8075110
This makes a lot more sense than random blog writers being into quake enough to give that list as a personal opinion.

>>8075440
Models, textures and sounds, loads of assets would need original replacements.

>>8074510
Grappling hook is better as a dedicated weapon for mobility and spearing idiots anyway. You only need a two barrel shotgun

since the summer is almost over. what wads did you guys play this summer? any stand out moments where you almost got filtered?
anything fun and interesting?

Halloween Resource Pack when?

>>8074125
Pretty good. It reminded me i haven't listened to The Dark Side of Phobos in a while.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOaRHLXsp-Q&list=PL4BA51BC7FD03D309&index=9

>>8075513
When someone else teach me how to add new states for the fucking new monsters in DehExtra.

Tomorrow I guess.

>>8075548
What are you using, WhackEd4? The new states start at 1089 and go to 3999.

>>8075432
Is it that big of a problem, when id got publishing rights for Hexen 2?

>>8075425
>>8075432
Yeah there's a guy who worked on the Qex port and he visited the Quake mapping discord.
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62088&start=52&end=76#post_213175

>don't expect AD any time soon and not in it's current form (way too thorny due to use of H2 and other assets, team size and see #1 re: legal) you are free to load it in the engine as an add-on but expect issues if and until some tweaks are made to the engine

Rest of the post implies/states they're going to look at more recent, vanillaish Quake mods/mappacks to add to the Qex port.

>>8074152
Someone mentioned Eternal, maker of Epic, which reminded me of Hell Ground. Play Hell Ground first.

>>8072198
>unity port still doesn't have fast monsters

>>8074125
Bretty gud. Coincidentally has a lot of my favorites

>>8075589
I'm using WhackEd4 and yeah I know that, but how you're able to fill those states like this (pic related, from SoD's custom monsters showcase).. that's the part I don't understand jack shit.

Anyway, I can upload the resources tomorrow without them atm.. I can update the halloween assets anytime (except textures and flats ofc).

>>8075663
Todd didn't like them, sorry

>>8075663
I want to make parameters an optional menu option personally.

>>8075670
What is that monster showcase?

WhackEd4 (and Doom in general) is very straight-forward and self-explanatory. I don't know what you are having problems with but I can try to help.

First of all, this video tutorial should help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTn-oK8m2KU

Second, to access the new sprites in DEHEXTRA (for example, in your picture, you have SP03), you need to name your new sprites SP00 and SP01 and so on.

Third, to learn how to create your own monster, open two instances of WhackEd4: one simply to use the original Doom2 iwad as a reference, and another new window for your project (make sure to select DEHEXTRA format). Then just copy the frames; I don't think you can copy/paste so you have to do it by hand which is tedious. There is a more advanced program I read skillsaw post about but you need to compile it yourself and I am a techlet

>>8075674
I don't think that's possible in "regular" Doom. GZDoom already has this though

>>8075670
Not sure where you're hung up so I'll just explain how DeHackEd works a bit. The left circle is the first frame of a monster's states. Look at Walk for example, it starts at 1342, goes until 1349 with a new sprite on each state, and then loops back to 1342 to repeat the walk state (look at the column Next to see what state a given state goes to when finished). There are 5 values that you can set in each state: the sprite used, that sprite's animation frame (ABCD etc.), the next state to go to, the duration of the state in game tics (1/35th of a second), and the codepointer (labeled Action, this is what a monster does during that state).
This page shows what numbers to use for new things/sprites/sounds you add: https://doomwiki.org/wiki/DEHEXTRA.. Note that sprites need to be named SP00, SP01, SP02, etc. to be recognized by extended DeHackEd (SP00 will be sprite number 145). Likewise, sounds need to be named DSFRE000, DSFRE001, etc. (DSFREE000 will be sound number 500).

>>8075729
Only saw this post after refreshing while typing mine. Hopefully both of these helped a little. The other tool this post is referring to is DecoHack. I've been learning it recently and it's great for extended DeHackEd, although a bit hard to use unless you've used ZDoom Decorate. If you want I could run you through it some other time.

>>8075670
>radius 0.0
WhackEd4 does this sometimes. If you save changes to this wad and leave that at 0, then the monster will be unshootable. I think 19 is a good radius - a little smaller than the imp but still big enough to be easily punchable
>no raise state
You will have to create one manually. It's just the death state in reverse order, leading back into the walking state. Make each raise state frame last 5 duration, which is what most or all monsters use.

>TNT MAP29 UV
>Bro here's all this Plasma, it should really help
>No of course there's no Plasma Rifle, I hope you weren't expecting it
>What do yo mean the map feels ammo starved?

>>8075867
they didn't optimize that one too much for pistol start did they? lol

>>8075875
Lol, no. It's doable, but it's a bit tedious and frustrating, honestly.

>>8075095
That long-range shootout looked painful, and you still ended up using GL.

>>8073951
this copyright shir exists due to one fucking company and their horned rat that should had been public for years

>>8075884
personally don't pistol start things often but when you mentioned it. I just remembered that dean of doom dude mentioning it in his video.
maybe i should try it more often but i feel like it would require a level of memorization. I wouldn't do.
Cause now when i beat something I hardly ever go back to it and if i do. Its like a year or two later. And i'm slightly horrible at finding secrets in combat scenarios. I do end up usually finding most of them after everyone is dead
I always try to leave a level with 200/200

>>8075612
Hexen 2 assets can be replace with Quoth

>>8075895
Yeup. I decided to dick around with it. It's not ideal, nor as bad as I thought it was going to be. I'll still be using the single shot situationally, not unlike Doom 1's shotgun when you get the super.

>>8075913
Wouldn't be as satisfying though. Think of Necromancer's Keep, or that one where you climb out of a grave. Quoth has no skull wizard equivalents.

If anyone is curious about GZDooms hardware requirements, I just ran it fine on a Microsoft Surface 3. It took a while to load, but once it did it was fine.
But it seems to be the bare minimum. Anything lesser would dip into the unreasonable.

So that's:
Intel Atom x7-z8700 1.60GHz
2 gigs of ram
Windows 8.1 64 bit
and whatever the fuck it uses for graphics.

>game allows you to carry power-ups in inventory, Q2-style
>they carry over between levels
>final boss takes away any powerups you have and uses them himself during the final battle

>>8075913
Its not that simple. For one thing, the makers of Quoth would have to agree. For another thing, Quoth doesnt necessarily have suitable replacements for every AD monster. And for yet another thing, if it did, they would have to either re-animate the monster to match the AD animation, or re-code it to match the Quoth animation. Since Quake monster scripting is very animation-dependant.

>>8075987
which Md5 fixed it

>>8075190
i played undoomed before, it's really not much but it is fun for 5 mins (and doesn't want to work anymore for some reason)

>>8073928
I get why they have to change it, but why the fuck to a square? Thats not exactly a symbol people associate with healing. New players might think they're explosive or something.

>>8075612
I'm not sure this matters. AD will still be known as among the best quake content, and it will just push people that get into quake toward the quality community managed source ports.

>>8076041
They might, especially because the explosives have glowing red markers on them.
But to be fair they haven't used them anyway, they're just sitting there "in case". Hey, maybe someone who worked on it is reading this thread:
Don't fuck it up.

>>8076090
Yeah, true. AD - and before the year is out, Mjolnir - will be the beacons that guide new Quake players to mods outside of the ones that get ported to the new Quake port.

>>8074952
Thats honestly the reason why I hated the half-life transitions for an entire zone.
Every single point of no return with an "are you sure? you're missing x secrets" should have been a clearly marked exit with a tally screen.

>down a few potions in Hideous Destructor
>medkits become obsolete for the next 5 hours
Why is this allowed?

>>8075370
>open hand SSG reload

>>8076150
Dunno why it bothers you. It's clearly a frame to add impact to him slapping the shells in there.
Looks good.

>>8076148
Medkits work a lot faster for treating burns, and stimpacks are really good and you can't use them to any effect if you're huffing blues. That's not even getting into what the blursphere can do.

>>8076041
What are some good alternatives to putting crosses on your healing items? Maybe this thing?

>>8073928
It's not going to change. The red cross specifically dislikes the red symbol on a white background.

>>8076209
Apparently that's the wrong rod. That one was mistakenly put on some military equipment like 100 years ago, and no one noticed or cared.
You want the rod of Asclepius. One snake, no wings.

>>8076209
The caduceus would actually fit pretty well in Quake. The problem is that Quake 1's textures aren't high-res enough to tell wtf that is if you try to put it on a health box.

>>8074396
Welp... I killed the dragon then everything started shaking and I fell into lava and had to replay this fight a couple more time. Fuck DoE.

>>8074993
The one thing that irks me with FTE is that after several minutes of playing framerate decreases to the point it becomes very choppy. Going into the options and doing "apply settings", without changing anything, fixes it. Tried various settings and nothing helped.

>>8076229

>>8072217
Thanks for contributing nothing, Faggot.

>>8075875
Not the only time TeamTNT tried to have a map late into a megawad that starves the player. Map28 from Icarus was pretty notorious for this (and apparently was even worse during development).

>>8076339
Jesus, what a horrible font. I can't read any of that.

>>8076364
>surgery
>radiology
>anesthesiology
>cardiology
>orthopedics
>OB/Gyn
>pediatrics
>gastroenterology
>pathology
>oncology
>proctology
>psychiatry
>sexology

>>8075190
i see the APK for freaklabs and gloomy dungeons but i have no idea how to possibly get the wads from these.

>You're free to explore the city
>big doors with runes and bars are still closed
Lame, should've been less conspicuous doors for map walls.

>>8076425
Decorative doors are a mistake. Mappers will never learn.

>>8076440
I like the feeling they give, that the world is bigger than just the map. Though >>8076425 is conspicuous enough to be a let-down.

>>8076462
>I like the feeling they give, that the world is bigger than just the map.

That's what mappers think they're doing. In reality it's just bringing confusion and the feeling of being locked with areas you can't access. They also think that players can tell the difference between a decorative door, a door that will unlock later on, and a door that opens from the other side, just because they can.

>>8076465
>They also think that players can tell the difference between a decorative door, a door that will unlock later on, and a door that opens from the other side, just because they can.
That one's easy to circumvent, just put an obviously immobile lump up against it, like some boxes or a pile of dirt.

>>8076465
Is this sort of subversion really a problem? I mean you have flat pieces of wall that are secret doors. I can't think of any time i was frustrated by some decorative door - quite the opposite - on the rare occasion Ive been tricked into thinking a big centerpiece door would open, only to realize at the end it was a red herring, i've enjoyed having my expectation subverted.

I like a lot of the more surreal maps people have created, and uncanny cities (in general) play to that strength of quake.

>>8076478
imho, a door is a door, and must open one way or another at some point.
if it's not supposed to open, break or barricade it, make it clear that it PHYSICALLY can't open.

>>8076472
A simple "Locked" message when you approach the door should be enough as a tip.
And this >>8076472 for doors meant to stay closed.

>>8076209
Unfortunately too complex for the low resolutions we're dealing with. Could work on some wall and prop textures.

>>8076440
Luckily you have no saying in what's good or bad

>>8076465
Not the mappers' fault you're a retard.

how do you beat these games? I'm used to the 1cc standard of arcade games (i.e can't use continues).

using save files and quicksave takes all the challenge out of shooters, they're fine for practice or your first run to learn the maps and secrets, but I wouldn't say you ''beat'' the shooter if you used save files beyond the initial stage check point.

I guess it doesn't work for modern shooters that have 10 hours of bloat via story and exploration though...

>>8076604
You practice. I like doing ironman runs on levels where if I die I just do the whole thing over again.
Unless it's a map with like 400+ monsters and some fucking aggravating backtracking and finger fucking switches, at which point I give myself checkpoints at keys.
Normally I just play wads with smaller, denser maps though.

>>8076604
>using save files and quicksave takes all the challenge out of shooters
this way of thinking is essentially saying you want an external controller to moderate the difficulty for you - which is what arcades did to make money. instead, set your own difficulty based on your enjoyment of the game rather than this anachronistic idea. if a game is designed with saving/quicksaving, it's a hint that regular players will need that to complete it.

>>8076581
>>8076586

Sticking any sort of fullbright on an unopenable door i's poor map design because you're drawing attention to it instead of having subtle clues about where the player should actually be going.

Especially in Quake where the majority of the levels show you an unlockable door before you find the key so you know where you need to return to later on.

>>8076635
>if a game is designed with saving/quicksaving, it's a hint that regular players will need that to complete it.
Like I said it's fine your first time through or to practice, but it feels totally artificial to me if I'm allowed to savescum mindlessly through every encounter and stage, which means your mistakes have no consequences and skill doesn't matter.

> instead, set your own difficulty based on your enjoyment of the game rather than this anachronistic idea. if a game is designed with saving/quicksaving, it's a hint that regular players will need that to complete it.

It would be cool if it was internal to the game, like the harder difficulties block savescumming.
I was wondering how other people do it, or if there's a consensus like arcade players have 1 credit clear idea.

I could see going for deathless runs of each stage, then eventually deathless the whole campaign if the game isn't too long? Not sure.

>>8076647
Don't worry so much about it. Play Doom as you see fit. Some people just use autosaves at the start of a level and try to make it through in one go, some do it classic DOS style which means they lose all their shit and pistol start on death, and others savescum their brains out.

This all hinges on the player, not the game. The fact you're spending this much time worrying over it is a misstep, honestly. Go shoot the demons, get some keycards, hump walls.

>>8076637
It's a good thing then that in AD the doors you can never unlock actually make a different sound and clearly say they're locked.

>>8076660
I'm just asking because I'm not familiar with the norms of the genre and what kind of challenges skilled players do. For example, when I got into arcade games I didn't know about the 1cc goal, but after it was explained it totally changed my approach and increased my enjoyment of arcade games.
Previously I thought arcade games had little replay value because players just credit fed them mindlessly (because they *let* you do that) but actually credit feeding is more of a tool to practice and a way to test the game to see if you want to beat it for real via 1cc. Arcade games have a few tricks to encourage a 1cc, but they aren't obvious to new players.

>>8076502
What about the starting point doors of Doom? They also never open.

>>8076681
That's my favorite place to put a secret.

>>8074467
cleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeean livin'

I already posted a map here the other day and got feedback on it but I'm gonna be greedy and see if anyone wants to give feedback on another map
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19T1MxiN_ZNf2YgelyqpUn3egAZWDQUml/view?usp=sharing

>>8076708
complevel 9

>>8076502
This is not how it works, sorry. Both games or IRL.

>>8076684
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>>8076714
>not how it works [...] IRL
I can fully picture an autistic anon beating down some girls door because she "didn't barricade it, so it should open".

>>8076635
With Doom I’d say it’s a natural next step and is a fun way to test your familiarity of the game mechanics. I wouldn’t say you should go straight into Doom with no-save-pistol-starts as a newcomer but it’s something that’ll come up after awhile, it makes it exciting.

>>8054781
Also, the party pack crashes in Doom 2 on prboom+. Doom 1 works, strangely.

>>8076751
Hardfunv4 apparently works.

>>8076708
Pretty cool map. The room with the hundred or so zombiemen got a smile out of me.

>>8076756
I'm using the most recent release of the umapinfo fork. Neither 3.0 nor 4.0 work.

>bungie paying tribute to marathon.
need Marathon. Need more of it, need stuff like it.

>>8076502
I'm putting either padlocks or deadbolts on all my deco doors from now on, complete with rattling/rumbling sounds when you touch them. Just for you anon.

I am wondering, would there be any interest in a mapping project for vanilla? By that I mean straight vanilla, no limit-removing, maybe with new stuff through Dehacked, because it might be my shitty memory, but I don't think /vr/ has ever done a Doom 1 mapping project, let alone a non-limit-removing one.
It could be called something like "Choc Diamonds".

I am not talking about something like Doom the way id did, but something new.
Stipulations could be something like no more than ten rooms (i.e. separated by doors) or have at least five barons in the map or something like that.

Also, I don't want to oust the halloween project or anything, just trying to see if there is any general interest, so we could start planning early and tackle the project in a relaxed fashion.

>>8076681
Those are an exception because the player knows that's where he's supposed to be coming from.

Also they have a padlock.

Anyway I knew this was a sensible subject but I knew people mappers won't change their minds about this. Even if they saw players go check the door repeaditly and get confused they'd still keep putting those in. Decorative doors are lazy ways to detail a map for people with no imagination, they're just copying what they saw in other maps without stopping to think about it, and the circle continues. 90% of all decorative doors could be deleted, and even with nothing but straight walls in their place, it would make the maps better.

>>8076115
>Mjolnir
Never heard about this one before. Found the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXgBg2sEmqA
Maps look incredible (and the fact there's gonna be 75 of them is unbelievably cool), but I don't like those new weapons. Some weird magic shit made out of Hexen 2 assets, and they aren't even centered. That Flak Cannon model looks nice though.

>>8076425
I forgot about this, and I like it.

>>8076770
I was replying to your image.

>>8076805
>but I don't like those new weapons
I’ve not been a fan of this so far in Quake map packs, I’ve tried Ter Shibboleth and they also toss you some gross looking weapons. At least they’re centered.

>>8076791
I'm game
I actually proposed some (I thought) creative limitations to build around a few months ago. Map starts at -666 height and ends at 666, or 66 sectors, 66 enemies etc. But people seemed to not like it. Anyway I'm down with "hard vanilla" style or whatever too.

>>8075493
Had a lot of hot fun with the boys in HFFM.

>>8076816
Yeah, latest release of TerShib uses Drake mod, which is indeed a gross mish-mash of stuff. And again, most of assets come from Hexen 2.
Good thing you can play first 5 maps vanilla: https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/ter_shibboleth.html

>>8076339
lmao the one that's just a snake tied to the side of the rod

>>8076440
I think if you signal clearly that they'll never open, it's ok. It's not like people playing Doom for the first time just plain turned around and got stuck.

>>8076502
Are you a Valve playtester

>>8076502
With such approach Silent Hill games must be hell for you.

>>8076751
I think because there's some truecolor frames in there, like the source graphics for some things before being palettized or altered for the palette.

>>8076774
Add a soundbyte that says loudly exclaims "THIS DOOR IS LOCKED, AND WILL NOT OPEN, I BETTER LOOK FOR ANOTHER PATH."
just for consideration for AAA playtesters.

>>8076848
Didn't they make it so the main character looks at openable doors after the first game?

>>8076502
Are you also running into tunnels painted on walls?

>>8076816
Gross looking weapons? Which ones? The laser blaster isn't the prettiest.

>>8075867
That map's worst sin is the secret room that just ambushes you with a bunch of monsters and provides zero reward. I hate UV-Max side quests.

>>8076791
Doom 1 is boring.

>>8076906
filtered

>>8076887
The chainsaw was pretty unsightly. It also doesn’t help that I went into it with updated models from AD and the rerelease.

doom enemy idea: body proportions of catdog

>>8076947
Would it do different attacks depending on which side is facing you?

>>8076906
doom 2 is the boring one

>>8076906
Sieved

>>8076952
maybe
maybe it could split into two if it lost enough health

>>8076906
> new toys makes up for shit level design and awful texture work
Based retard.

>>8076953
Funneled

>>8076906
Don't you have to pistol start something?

>>8075670
>I can update the halloween assets anytime (except textures and flats ofc).
Why do you think you can't do this?

>>8076848
Silent Hill at least tells you the lock is broken, which means it will never open and marks it with a X in the map. There's no telling if a wall disguised as a door would open later with a switch or something in Doom