/vr/ - Retro Games

=== CURRENT RELEASE ===
Hard Fast Faggot Maps
Version 4.0 >>8054781
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/megawads/hardfun

=== CURRENT PROJECTS ===
VIOLENT RUMBLE
Project Mega folder: https://mega.nz/folder/LVlWVK5D#H5iqeD61bSItMIVeGqymTQ
Latest update: >>8059171

VRSKINS 3.9 (delayed)
Submissions closed

=== NEWS ===
[8-22] Doom Master Wadazine now has a website
https://wadazine.com/2021/08/our-new-endeavor-the-wadazine-com/

[8-21] Bratwurst: Recooked released
https://youtu.be/6zHGcS50-3Q

[8-20] Quake Speedmap pack 213 is out, themed around low gravity
https://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=62087

[8-20] Killer5 makes some MBF21 maps
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/124007-zzul-bases-four-easy-to-very-hard-mbf21-maps/

[8-19] From Doom With Love (dsda-doom fork) has now gone public.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123998-from-doom-with-love-experimental-dsda-doom-fork/

[8-19] Quake gets a modern port and update!
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/1428403921438101515

[8-16] Two new powerslave maps released
https://www.moddb.com/games/powerslave/addons/temple-of-the-fire-and-the-water
https://www.moddb.com/games/powerslave/addons/forgotten-sanctuary

[8-14] Age of Hell Demo released
https://hellforge-studios.itch.io/the-age-of-hell

[8-12] Quake Enhanced Edition TBA
https://xboxera.com/2021/08/12/a-revitalized-edition-of-quake-to-be-announced-at-quakecon-per-the-now-scrubbed-description-of-the-lets-talk-quake-event/

[8-12] DOOM Retro updated to 4.2
https://www.doomretro.com/

[8-11] Anon releases a map, BigDill.wad
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123839-bigdillwad-a-tricky-tech-base-two-streets-south-of-hell/

[8-10] Crispy Doom updated to 5.10.2
https://github.com/fabiangreffrath/crispy-doom/releases/

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I understand this reference

>>8060092
DON'T DO IT SKELETON!

Okay, I found something good.

Bust Hillary 3D

1996 FPS where you fight glowniggers in White House to find some dirt on Hillary Clinton.

For the most part, converting the models so other sourceports can use them "worked" but there's this oddity in some of the animation frames where the model is on the floor.
The new weapon models are weird after converting, too: The rocket launcher works fine but the others are at the top of the screen when they're not firing.

how do you reload the derp? i have enough ammo both in mags and loose but if i press r with it selected it does nothing

can i move my weapons to the right in quake
i hate centered weapons

>>8060132
>he thinks merely pressing R in HD is enough to reload something
Oh my sweet summer child... Hold E to see the list of controls.

>>8060137
You technically can in quakespasm, through scr_ofs console commands

>>8060147
>Hold E to see the list of controls.
... and it says press reload to reload, which doesnt work, what now?

>>8060137
>i hate centered weapons

>>8060153
If you'll notice anon, below the derp it says MAG: 0. This means it currently has a pistol magazine loaded, but it's empty. When you try to press reload, you're trying to jam in a new magazine into a slot that already has a magazine.

So the solution then is: first unload the spent magazine inside with your unload key, and then reload with your reload key.

>>8060151
nevermind this is gross

>>8060180
I do kinda like the idea of ranger holding a rocket launcher with one hand effortlessly

>>8060123
https://files.catbox.moe/2gkyle.rar
Okay, if anything wants to try this shit, here's the upload. I tried it myself and the experience was quite unforgetable.

Gunplay is phenomenal. The guns are strong, big, manly, they take up half the screen. Pistol fires as fast as you pull the trigger, and MAC-10 sometimes doesn't even concerns itself with such minute details like whether you even have ammo or not. Finding dirt on she-bitch is not easy - my first death happened when I picked up a secret document and was frantically looking for a key to remove it from the screen. Movement is transcendental, it's safe to say I've never experienced anything like this in a first-person shooter. You walk around with a speed of old people copulating, and soon you realize that your real enemy is not the Secret Service - it's your own mouse that will actively fight you even if you don't touch it at all. I can only compare this to trying to turn a plane with a rudder in a plane sim. Soundtrack is a short loop of X-Files theme, but what else would you need when you're hunting for the truth? Certainly, this is the game that separates the boy from the men Pizzagate joke.

>>8060153
Also completely unrelated to HD but I highly suggest that you turn off texture filtering and get your mugshot unsquished. It looks godawful

>blurry: Options -> Display Options -> Texture filter mode set to "None (linear mipmap)"

>squish: Options -> Scaling Options -> HUD preserves aspect ratio set to "On". Play with user interface scale slider to taste.

>>8060180
>>8060137
Stop being a bitch
https://gamebanana.com/mods/239257

>>8060180
Beautiful
>super shotgun/nailgun models
Are you running AD there?

>>8060192
that's was even worse lol

>>8060137
>i hate centered weapons
That's fucking gay

>set weapons to "center" in quake 4
>soul increases by 120%

>>8060202
Nice skullgun

>>8060219
Post pics

>kill baron
>walk past it
>it resurrects behind me and oneshots
epic, is there a way to prevent this shit in hd?

>>8060228
It's not truely centered as you can see, which is why I put center in quotation marks. It looks a lot better and less obtrusive than the default tho.

>>8060261
Ugly as Sin, same answer as last thread. You can mess with the 'frag'(respawn) settings. Other than that, precautionary DERP turret drops can save a level run.
>>8060273
I like it.

>>8059870
>Blizzdrone janny at /vg/
You should avoid each of them on its own. You knew how this would end.
>>Quake 2 is going to be a thing soon
Really? I doubted that because of RTX and have similar logic when it comes to Quake 3 Arena and Live. The more re-releases like that we get, the better. They don't even need to be the best: just be good either for first time experience on PC and consoles.
>>Microsoft wants Quake back on track, QC it still a good idea, but it needs a "Realm Reborn" and i am not memeing out of it.
Interesting. I was saying that Champions needs a 2.0 version and new Quake (if in development) should focus on single player because of that for a while now.
>>Netquake is a thing, yes, but QuakeWorld Client is a thing later.
Honestly, I prefer NetQuake. Hope they'll improve ping and stuff like that though.
>Mainly because Quake carried Windows on its back, and its the sole reason for Windows embracing OpenGL support in 98.
...and now this port has full support of Vulkan API only. But I suspect that they would slightly improve DirectX11 because Microsoft.

I enjoyed this re-release so far: playing multiplayer and getting achievements. Will deal with DoE today and then only Dimension of the Machine will remain. Overall it's been a pleasant surprise because of both active/easy-to-access NetQuake and my desire to try myself in modding. This Enhanced version of Quake is perfect fit for a mod I was thinking about, but I'm still on "writing concept" stages.

They better at least add in updated models for Mission Packs and deal with team-focused modes shenanigans, so people could easily play DoE's Capture The Flag.

>>8060290
>I prefer NetQuake.
why?

>>8060273
>each gun has its own crosshair
was it kino?

>>8060273
That's actually perfect. Looks like he is holding it like a human now.

>>8060290
Moron

>>8060293
That what every fast paced arcade shooter should do.

>>8060273
Q2 has this option but unfortunately the Vanilla weapon meshes are unfinished on the left side

>>8059672
I notice that you're playing kuchitsu. A good decision. Try setting up time limits for yourself, so that you can actually improve your pace
>>8060153
Man, that's a lot of crap you are holding into. Do yourself a favor and only hold one type of guns per ammunition you are planning to carry.
>pistol and smg
You don't really need to hold two guns chambered in 9mm; Drop the pistol. Do you really need a shotgun when you are carrying a vulcanette?
>vulc and hunter
If you plan to snipe with a shotgun, I advise you carry a side-by-side instead as it is way more effective in that and usually has a higher choke (if not 7).
>herp and derp
herps are really finicky. They have a limited fov and rarely do any doom maps require you to be stationary and fight a group of enemies descending on you. Only map I can think of right now, where you can set up a derp quickly before enemies start teleporting in is e4m1. It can be useful for dealing with closets tho. Generally I wouldn't suggest you mess with those. Derps however, are fantastic. Drop one whenever you feel in danger and you'll be safe until it runs out of ammo.

>>8060109
>>8060261
Ugly as sin has a fragshard reduction module which prevents fragshards from spawning in the first place, thus limiting how much ends up in the air
https://github.com/caligari87/Ugly-as-Sin/
>>8060147
People have different binding setups. Simply telling them to press a common bind doesn't mean it'll work for everyone. Better say hold 'the use key' or 'use'.

>>8060292
More "straight forward", I guess? Not much different from single player in terms of controls and stuff (not that I'm pro with that). Maybe my dumb dedication to "mostly vanilla purism" and scuffed experince with ezQuake also formed my view (setting it up for vanilla look - I didn't get into the part where I get destroyed by veterans).
>>8060296
I know. Thanks for compliment.

>>8060093
>Doom Master Wadazine now has a website
Didn't the team just quit?

>>8060337
No. Endless just went under fire for speaking out. They're still kicking.

>>8060341
Alright, thanks for clarifying. Disinfo runs wild when drama strikes.

We're playing scythe survival for SNS tonight. Just a heads up because I know at least one anon didn't play SNS since the lives were infinite, tonight your actions will have consequences.

>>8060343
I left out a detail. Bridgeburner and Arlene dipped. Good riddance if you ask me.

>>8060123
Is this a CornCob3d Engine game perhaps?

>>8060331
Ok moron thanks for shilling nuQuake and telling us netquake is best. Spastic

>>8060346
Looking forward to it.

>>8060351
calm down m'lad

>>8060347
Dipped?

>>8060368
Left. Gone. They're not with the wadazine team anymore.

>>8060351
>nuQuake
QuakeEX*.

Anyone else think Doom maps with slopes look really weird when the textures used are stock or stock derived?

>>8060370
Pff, they would. I'm certain that Wadazine will improve from this.

>>8060393
Indeed. I doubt the wadazine needed those borderline sociopath cunts. That aside, Blood.

>>8060393
Indeed. I doubt the wadazine needed those borderline sociopath cunts. That aside, Blood.
Forgot pic first time

>>8060371
Quecks

>>8060349
It is not.

>>8060425
>It really is a game from 1996
HOLEE FUCKIN SHEET! ! !

Hey, has anyone tried the Age Of Hell demo yet, how's the performance for you? I get around 10fps on medium settings.

>>8060440
Looking good!

>>8060385
Much like Minecraft, if I see slopes in Doom my nuts instinctively shrivel up in disgust.

>>8060458
>That tree
>That water
>With those frames
Who made this, Tormentor667?

So, i found out that OldGames sk has a working Windows 3.11 pack with sb16 and S3 video working, and all it needs is the MPU drivers to support Roland or any Munt or VMS config, the crt shader pack at vogons and Dosbox ECE.
And is pissy easy to config, though idk how to increase the maximum size for use to 20gb, but it works, im evem playing Shadow of the Horned rat 3.11.

Has anyone here ever made a Win95 pack or 98 for it and ready to use? i remember only the DOSPACK /vr/

>can snipe at an imp clear on the other side of the map
>1 in 2 chance of being able to hit the barrel immediately in front of you

Anybody willing to playtest this map I just finished?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jibHiaxaD8lt7x1DdtzG-jzo7PM1CMse/view?usp=sharing

>>8060540
Complevel 9 btw

I cannot boot up zdaemon.exe at all for some reason. It gives me an Entry Point Not Found error. It tells me that '_FSOUND_GetNumHWChannels@12' could not be found in the dynamic link library for zdaemon.exe. Any solutions?

I legitimately don't understand how to beat the first level of Shadow Warrior without getting shot.

>>8060565
And then a coolie or shadow ninja attack happens.
Expect to take plenty of hits while killing them as fast as possible. Limit their LOS as you move through fights, it's always going to suck if there's a bit of open space between you and what's shooting you.

>>8060573
>shadow ninja
why was this allowed

Thanks to the 2 anons that recommended Raze for Blood. This is great and I'm getting zero screen tearing. I wonder why I never heard of this unlike Build GDX and NBlood.

>>8059870
If they can pop in some better quakeworld netcode that can handle coop properly that would be great. I'm not sure what netcode they're using now, but between a player with 0 ping (server) and 80 (me) it was a skippy jumpy mess.

>>8060596
I was under the impression it was just an nblood fork anyways

>>8060187
Ngl this is the kinda absurd shit that is up my alley. The fact that it's from 1996 is great because I'm sure it references all the fucked up shit the Clinton presidency did before being granted sainthood by morons 25 years later.
I'll give it a whirl for a lark. I don't expect it to be good, but it looks at least entertaining.

>>8060290
>Champions needs a 2.0 version and new Quake (if in development) should focus on single player because of that for a while now.
If they can bring them in line with eachother that would be great. Like if you could access champions through a new single player game.
What engine does champions use?

>>8060596
>>8060603
I think it loads different modified engine per game, like Blood uses nBlood and Exhumed uses PCExhumed.

>>8060540

>salvia.wad

Much like the real thing, I hated every second of it and it felt like it lasted ten times longer than it did.

Starting room was a bit frustrating depending on how the pain elemental behaved. I avoided having to fight anything in the ? key room by just letting the underground archies shoot me back over the ledge. Not sure if that was intentional. Final fight I didn't do much but run around and let cybie kill stuff then head to the exit.

Favourite fight was the archvile near the mancubus guarding the first SSG and skellies in the nearby hallway. Also liked the ? key room with ledges full of imps.

So yeah, intense as fuck, good work.

Does anyone has info on Arch-vile resurrection behaviour? Like the distance, direction and the like?

I tried looking it up but it never specifies this sort of things wherever I go.

>>8060092
>TFW still waiting for a Megaman X-themed idtech 1 TC that goes into at least 16-bit style
Dammit I want to fight Mavericks and viruses either as X or Zero in idtech1!

> I'd recommend forgetting whatever editor you were used to and picking up Trenchbroom
Why do most Quake mappers have such a love boner for Trenchbroom that anyone using anything else is offensive to them?

>>8060596
I'm glad that worked out for you, even though I don't really like Raze itself.
>>8060603
It is, but some stuff is handled by GZDoom systems and it goes away from standard Build behaviours in some ways, because Doom SP coders hate Silverman's code.

>>8060370
I wonder if Bridgeburner being part of the team had anything with Bridgeburner winning mapper of the year... surely just a coincidence.

DBPs aren't banned from doomworld anymore
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123980-lifted-doomer-boards-projects-will-no-longer-be-permitted-on-the-forums/?tab=comments#comment-2371553
Glad that's over.

>>8060660
The rules seem vague enough that they'd just ban everyone again.

>>8060663
If anything it's worse. It's against the rules to "facilitate harassment" - taken loosely, you could use that to ban anyone on DB who doesn't call out an anti-DW post. Expect all DBers to be banned inside a week.

>>8060583
Git gud scrub

>>8060347
They lost some others iirc, but I don't know who.

>>8060660
That rule is just them playing the victim.
>stop harassing us!
Notice how the rule says nothing about them harassing others.
I wonder if Dew is going to come back and visit /vr/ to call us all names again.

>>8060660
>Glad that's over.
Based retard who didn't read the rule attached.
They are going to use this rule as an excuse to ban DBP again in like a week.
The whole "let's monitor activity in places that aren't Doomworld" is retarded as fuck.

Deep inside I hope Doomworld moderation staff implodes, but I can't be assed to migrate from it on my own.

>>8060641
Thanks for playing, anon.
Archvile jumping out of the arena is cheese, I'll have to think of a way around that. I thought the ledge would be tall enough to prevent this.
>Favourite fight was the archvile near the mancubus guarding the first SSG and skellies in the nearby hallway.
Kind of thought of this area as filler so I'm glad it's actually an enjoyable fight

>>8060702
Even worse, I suspect they are going to use the rule against future /vr projects as well.

>>8060678
>shoot until dead

>>8060660
That's even worse, they're pretending to chill out but those vague as fuck rules are going to get abused like crazy.

>>8060716
What are they going to do, ban Anonymous? Who's Anonymous? Could be one of their own for all they know.

>>8060654
Because Trenchbroom can do what other editors can, while being a lot more comfortable to use.
Though I have never seen anyone be "offended", you drama queen.

>>8060124
>oddity in some of the animation frames where the model is on the floor.
there's an "advanced commands" section, specifically:
>-mdlnobase - don't include base pose in mdl frames.
weapons probably need eye level set or something like that, it's also a thing in mdls

>>8060724
>the call is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE

>>8060597
Even Doom had dogshit netplay on launch.
>"I know how to do graphics and optimizing, but not netcode, oh well, I'll give it a shot. Mm."
>"Oops the netplay actually floods your network with trash data and it kills the speed on any network you're playing on, college IT departments across the country are completely fucking livid! Mm!"
>"Better rewrite the netcode for the next update. Mm."

>>8060724
Anyone who put their name to a /vr/ project or has admitted to visiting here before.

We don't just rename the general to fucking doom fourm drama and be done with it.

>>8060735
That's a lot of people and they don't have any ammo to use against a majority of that list.

>>8060728
>there's an "advanced commands" section, specifically:
>-mdlnobase - don't include base pose in mdl frames.
I'll try this out
>weapons probably need eye level set or something like that, it's also a thing in mdls
Can that be done through Noesis, or is it in another util?

>>8060540
Sure.
The start isn't too cruel. I just had to figure out where the ssg was at. Later I figured there are two ways to get the SSG which is fantastic.
the layout is good and you can quickly navigate from one area to the other without feeling lost, due to their distinctive appearance and design. The map offers a bit more options for routing, as there are more than one way through and you can choose to engage in whatever fight you choose first
Yellow skull fight was where things goes a bit south. Things get a lot more claustorphobic from here to the end of the map. You are either thrown in a tight space and/or with a lot of enemies.
I thought the first cyberdemon fight was tough. I didn't even actually kill the cyber as I expected there to be a bfg or something in such a tight space; thus I decided to leave. I was completely caught off guard by the red key fight and just yolo'd it and tried to get out as soon as possible only clearing enemies that are obstructing my way.
The map goes by quickly as I mentioned earlier you can't get lost in this map and you always find yourself going from one fight to the other. I unfortunately didn't find any secrets in my playthrough but they weren't really necessary to actually make it through the map, which is nice.
The health and ammo pickups are quite well balanced and at no moment did I feel that I had too much or too little for a fight but then again I didn't feel obligated to kill all enemies and prioritized getting out.
I'm bretty pad at dewm but made it through with saves on uv in less than 20 minutes. This map was very fun

>>8060659
Bridge isn't on the cacoward team though

>>8060610
>If they can bring them in line with eachother that would be great.
Just having them co-exist would be more than enough, I think.
>What engine does champions use?
Some hybrid monstrosity of id Tech 5 and Saber3D Engine.

>>8060724

Pretty sure every asshole on Doomworld is a closet channer.

Then again that applies to every niche nerd hobby. You see it in Warhammer forums too. People never directly admit anything but you see conversations from /tg/ mirrored elsewhere, it's funny.

Anyway I don't even have a Doomworld account, let's see them try and ban me.

>>8060748
I'll have a look, not sure yet.
previously I had to fix rhynch gibs for violent rumble, but I used python for that.

What's the best way to play Doom and Quake on Android? With a controller of course.

>>8060751
I meant wadazine mapper of the year award.

>>8060781
Oh, he got both

>>8059979
>>8059941
Here you go
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Levels

>>8060773
Unity port

>>8060773
Delta Touch & Quad Touch. Supports pretty much all ports you need (GZ, Zandy, PrBoom, Quakespasm, FTE), gamepad fully customizable. You may find cracked apks somewhere, but I bought both, and it was absolutely worth 5$.
There's also Raze port by same author, and it's free. You may test your pad on it, I guess: http://opentouchgaming.com/raze-touch/

>>8060659
That shit sure stinks.

>>8060739
It'll probably die down soon enough, we've already said all there is to say for now. It's readily apparent that many DoomWorld hotshots like to pat themselves on the back or award their pals, I don't think there's much more new to cover there. If nothing else lingering on things like these tends to bring the hotpocket rage.

Though birthed from retarded forum drama, the fact that Wadazine is now less joined at the hip with DoomWorld's goonsquad is a good thing, because that means less centralization and more perspectives. I think that's something worth thinking about.

>>8060748
actually it's the same exact issue, the weapon thing gets fixed with -mdlnobase
also fyi, you don't need to set additional animation or texture outputs
also also, to have the powerups rotate you use "-mdlflags 8"

>>8060834
Seeing as you're so experience with this anon, could you please convert all the models for us plebs?

>>8060750
I'm trying to make more nonlinear maps so I'm glad it worked.
I've been worried about that first cybie fight being too claustrophobic. Not a ton I can do now, and I think its OK, but I wonder if its too cramped for others.
Looks like you still had to kill most enemies so I don't mind that you were able to run past a portion of the red key fight.
Thanks for taking the time, anon

>>8060834
Holy shit, I am trying this out immediately!

>>8060845
I got the impression that the guy doing the videos is already on it, don't wanna step on toes.
I'm not a huge fan of the models anyway, and they look bad with lerpmodels 2.

SUNDAY NIGHT SHITSHOW TIME, BABY! Tonight we're playing Scythe with a twist, survival. One life and you're out!
Join 104.128.49.2:10827 with Zandronum, let's do this shit.

>>8060863
>lerpmodels 2.
Dumb question but what's that?
Also what videos guy

>>8060825
>>8060813
Thank you.

>>8060853
>worried about that first cybie fight being too claustrophobic
I actually didn't attack a single enemy in the first cyber fight and just opted for the cyber to do all the work for me cause I didn't want to waste ammo. It wasn't too hard as there is just enough space to dodge the projectiles and hide from splash. I say that it wasn't too harsh really.
>still had to kill most enemies
Again Most of what I did was just dodge the rockets so that they hit the groups of enemies instead of me. I actually got stuck in one of the closet rooms with rockets and health and the cyber came and saved my ass. I didn't even bother collecting rockets in that fight just went for the switch, got the key and out of that shitshow not even collected health as you see there 1%. Somehow ended up with more than 90% kills.

>>8060884
the other guy I'm talking to, he posted a conversion guide last thread.
r_lerpmodels controls animation interpolation in QS, at 0 you get discrete frames, at 1 they get smoothed out with the exception of firing frames w/ muzzleflashes, at 2 anything goes. mostly I just prefer the spinning snailgun at 2.

>>8060904
I see, thanks anon. Well I hope the other anon can convert them properly.

>>8060834
Holy shit you are kick ass, hot damn

>>8060791
The fact Doom, Duke and Wolf3D had ports and Serious Sam had an original title on the GBA is fucking crazy.
>>8060830
I don't give a shit about doomworld, doomer board or any of that shit, if it wasn't for a surprise Quake remaster/new episode the last couple threads would have been filled drama fucks jerking each other off and for what purpose?

>>8061000
>he doesn't engage in DOOM gossip

>>8060092
1vial 1boner?

>>8061000
>Serious Sam game for the GBA
>That unironically delicious single-digit FPS once anything appears onscreen besides your weapon
(˘ڡ˘)

>>8060834
>>8060925
Pretty awesome, only weird thing is the nailgun but that could be the FOV thing. Bad dudes are next.

>>8061026
Also the only M-rated GBA title

>>8060123
>>8060187
at the risk of sounding retarded, how do i get this to run? DOSBOX?

How are the Serious Sam games? I didn't realize we could talk about them in here, I don't know the cutoff for when shooters are considered retro

>>8061090
They're excellent, with The First Encounter and The Second Encounter being the best. As far as whether they're allowed here, they fit with the general feel of these games to me, but really it depends on how most people here feel I guess.

>>8061090
07 now just like the rest of the board, Sam 1st Encounter is good but 2nd Encounter is great and 2 is pretty damn good, make sure to play the Classics version of 1st and 2nd.

>>8061118
>07 now just like the rest of the boar
The issue is whether it's properly in the style of games this thread is made for. You could make a Halo thread on /vr/ now no problem, but it obviously wouldn't fit in this general.

>>8060863
>>8060908
Here's the weapons and enemies, let me know how I did. I haven't tested it with every enemy so far but the few I did didn't appear to have any issues:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nDLfarkq9unj6V_sdypUblMewcdl1mrQ/view
I don't know the standard way to install these. I plop mine into the folder of whatever levelpack I'm playing and rename it to 'pak2' or whatever .pk3 is next.

>Playing Doom with proprietary software

>>8058918
>We're better off with an archive if anything
we need a rating of sorts, we can' play every fucking wad that came out

>>8061132
So is it a matter of actual release year or more the style of the game itself? I guess it can vary from person to person

>>8061090
It's the game where you have to think about enemy prioritization the most, because Sam is slow and thus can't really escape bad situations. The feeling of cleaning up the encounter without a scratch is great.
TFE/TSE are close to perfect, everything coming after has problems in one aspect or another. 2 looks fantastic but gameplay-wise is kinda meh, closer to Painkiller where you just spam shotgun 90% of the time. 3 and 4 went for retarded 'realistic' style but at least they still play like Sam games.

What was the other special announment that was supposed to happen at quakecon?

>>8061181
At least for this thread I think it's more about the style of gameplay. Personally I think Serious Sam fits perfectly well, but I know some people feel very strongly against that and I don't know how many of those people browse these threads.

I guess the TL;DR of it all it all is, at least in my worthless opinion, discussion of SS here is fine as long as too many people aren't against it.

I need help remembering a megawad but only have one vague memory about it. The first level has you take an elevator off a ship and fight down a radioactive planet surface while taking on pinkies and end up in a dirty looking techbase.

>>8061161
Yep.

>>8061190
If you're talking about what was rumored by some but didn't happen, quack 5. If you're talking about the surprise that was hinted after the Q1 rerelease was unveiled that DID happen, it was Quack 2 and 3 releasing on Gamepass.

>>8061135
Noice, which source port do you recommend?

>>8061240
I've preferred Quakespasm for awhile, but FTE's been the only port I've ran into that supports the new episode. I've tested it with both.

>>8061215
Reminds me of UAC Ultra first level, at least with the fighting pinkies on a radioactive planet and dirty techbase part.

>>8061228
>it was Quack 2 and 3 releasing on Gamepass.
Are they just the same as normal?

>>8061261
Yep.

>>8061135
good job
>I don't know the standard way to install these
you could just put it in id1 as pak2, it would apply to other mods as long as there are no overrides.
in QSS and vkQuake you can also put it as pak0 in a separate folder and run things like "quake -game some_mod -game kexmodels -game some_other_mod"

I have no fuckin clue what sbarinfo is doing in relation to drawimage
all i want is an image to be drawn on the center bottom of the screen. If I go:
>drawimage "mycenterimg", 0+center, -1, centerbottom;
it floats a pixel above the bottom the screen (due to the -1 in y), but if i go
>drawimage "mycenterimg", 0+center, 0, centerbottom;
it disappears. I have no idea why.

>>8061252
I keep hearing FTE, what even is that? I never heard of it before this whole thing came out.

>>8059443
don't quake bots need waypoints to navigate the map?
I'm talking out my ass, last time I used waypoints was in an old as fuck counter-strike map

>>8061289
Got it. If It do
> drawimage "mycenterimg", -25+center, -24;
it works fine.
I thought it didn't earlier, but I probably didn't save the lump properly due to slade fuckery.

>>8061306
It's another sourceport for Quake
>I never heard of it before this whole thing came out.
That was me with DOPA recently, sounding like it was some weird game setting or config.

>>8061306
It's a hybrid Quakeworld-Netquake engine with the same (maybe more) graphical capabilities as Darkplaces and numerous conveniences and advancements. Supposedly you can play Quake 2 and 3 on it as well, but I've never tried.

>>8061341
>mashit games calls it "dopa"
>the actual acronym is dotp
really and truly, it stimulates the rapid firing of neurons within the human brain.

>>8061359
>Quakeworld-Netquake engine with the same (maybe more) graphical capabilities as Darkplaces and numerous conveniences and advancements
That makes it sound like it's probably the best option around, is that a fair guess?

>>8060487
> increase the maximum size for use to 20gb
LEL. Theoretical limit for FAT16 partition is 2 GB, CHS addressing stops at disk size of about 8 GB, and I am sure Windows 3.x expects a lot smaller numbers from disk/BIOS anyway.
https://tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO-4.html

>>8061364
I played through Q1 a month ago with FTE. I picked it because it had more keybinding and graphical options.

Is Ion Fury soulless?

>>8061372
How's the accuracy, better than the trash that is QuakeEX?

>>8061364
>That makes it sound like it's probably the best option around, is that a fair guess?
On paper at least, yes. Though it suffers from the same sort of settings overload issue as GZDoom and I had some obscure audio crashing issue that took me forever to figure out because of that. It can also take some time finding settings that make it run smoothly.

It's pretty great once you get used to it though, and it's easily the best source port for co-op.

>>8061379
It seemed fine to me. Unlike EX it is actually a sourceport, so I don't see how they could break things that easily.

>>8061381
>>8061382
Cheers lads, does the new episode play 100% fine in it or are messages broken?

>>8060558
Have you overwritten fmod.dll with some older/newer version? Is there more than one? Delete or rename the one that did not come with your application and see if it's working.

To understand what's happening properly, run depends.exe, try loading your executable in it, and check the paths of loaded files.

>>8061385
Haven't played it myself, but from what I understand it will flood the console with error messages, but just keep going without any perceivable issues.

>>8061385
Yeah. It's been the only issue so far.

What exactly is the difference between Qukespasm and Quakespasm Spiked anyway? I've been using the former all this time, but I'm told the latter is better somehow.

>>8061391
>>8061392
In that case I'll wait hoping someone will either fix the messages issue in the PAK itself or add support to FTE.

I told you guys months ago that Doomworld is a shithole, but I got banned for that.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/124057-new-rule-against-offsite-harassment/

Look at this, now it's officially a pozzed shithole with backstabbing others being the official rule. Fucking LMAO.

>>8061396
More than fair. I wanted to play the new episode outside of the new port asap and it's been the only other port so far.

>>8061405
How does this affect us

>>8061405
what did you expect from an ancient forum run by pussy boomer something awful goons, anon?

>>8061394
Further increased limits, more file format compatibility, general increased stability, lots of built-in features for modders to use (AD's particles, for instance), and some networking improvements.

>>8061421
Snitching on your neighbours and family is Communism 101, see also: Morozov

hello jannies :o

>>8060867
Twice through Scythe and still going! Nice turn out

>>8061128
>fine doom
>better quake

Just thought of something, would anyone here be down for FNF and SNS but in Quake with the new port? Would be cool especially since the new port has voice chat

>>8061489
Fuck yeah. In fact, why not do it right now?

>>8061489
It only supports 8 players.
I also just played through it with some /vr/ anons a couple days ago, so I'd only really be interested if we did the expansions.

>>8061489
I have been thinking of it (I hosted tonight's FNF). I would definitely do it over QuakeWorld though, maybe even include a link to nquake for people who want to jump right in (haven't used it so I don't know how newfag friendly it is).

Why aren't my shortcuts working for Quakespasm Spiked? They work for regular Quakespasm just fine, but typing -game hipnotic and such in properties gives me an error about the target destination. I have the folders in the right place, so no idea what I'm doing wrong.

>>8061394
>>8061420
See this for a more in depth summary: https://github.com/Shpoike/Quakespasm/blob/master/quakespasm/Quakespasm-Spiked.txt

>>8061501
It pretty much works out of the box. How about we raid a server?

>>8060583
Theyre the Archvile of Shadow Warrior.

>>8060092
for the mappers who hide the secrets from the computer area map

why?

>>8061504
Oh, so in other words its not really that much of a difference if I just want to play single player.

>>8061128
>quake in the center again
it's over, quakelets

>>8061523
>argie
god, can’t you just sink into poverty in silence?

>>8061526

>>8061523
can he fix quake?

>>8061526
At this rate, we'll have to change the OP to
>QUAKE THREAD / RETRO FPS THREAD

>>8061260
>UAC Ultra
That's the one, thanks a bunch anon.

>>8061538
what's to fix?

Clovr is running Team Fortress on Quakeworld right now. Anyone down?

>>8060187
Will this put me on a list?

>>8061534
I have a mouth and I must reeeeeee

>>8060137
Why? It makes the game smoother

If it's too easy just up the difficulty

>>8060192
yikes

>>8061616
nvm wtf was that

>Doom-like minigame in Goosebumps: Escape from Horrorland
>goal is to collect all tokens on the map
>touching a monster once is instant death
>flip switches to open/close gates
>no weapons

Any Doom wads with weird gimmicks like this? Or at least scary textures/monsters like this?

I appreciate the fact GOG tries to warn me that Quake 1 and 2 are not Linux-compatible if I put them in my cart and go to checkout. I mean, most people would probably say the best way to play them on any operating system is with source ports which are Linux-compatible anyway, but it's the thought that counts. Does Steam do this if you have supposedly Windows-only games in your cart on Linux? Probably not, considering their goal is to make everything work with Proton anyway.

On that note, though, apparently the new Quake remaster on Steam is pretty hit-or-miss with Proton; according to ProtonDB, some say it works and some say it doesn't. I'm probably the only one who gives a shit, but that really sucks ass — not even because I'd want to play it on Linux, but specifically because Valve whitelisted the original Quake for Proton, and now the less compatible remastered version was released as an update to the same product and probably runs by default. The same shit happened with the Unity ports of classic Doom games, which released on Steam as updates to the DOSBox-powered releases. The original versions had been whitelisted for Proton, and although I think running the Windows version of DOSBox on Linux through Proton is needlessly convoluted (considering there's a Linux version of DOSBox too), it worked. But the Unity port runs by default now, and doesn't work as well. Of course, even the Unity port of Doom is garbage compared to using an actual source port, which anyone who was serious about playing Doom would do. But the Quake remaster appears to be much less of a piece of shit, and is probably considered the "definitive" way of playing Quake now. It's pretty cringe that they'd make a Windows-exclusive remaster of a game that has been natively playable on Linux since forever, but it's not as if I would ever expect Bethesda to support Linux. I suppose I should be glad they haven't actively sabotaged Proton compatibility.

>>8060654
I almost got suckered into learning Trenchbroom the last thread, finding about Qodot and stuff. Then I realized that I already know Blender so I don't need any of this shit.

>>8061489
Kinda wanna wait for updates to the port desu.

>>8061663
>keeping the original essence of the game
>screenshot looks like the monsters are playing at a hotel pool on a sunny day

>>8060137
zoom

>>8061707
>and is probably considered the "definitive" way of playing Quake now
You absolute fucking newfaggot.

>>8061663
Based vaselyans

>>8061731
The scare quotes weren't a hint about the fact that I wasn't giving you my own opinion?
Or wait, are you mad at me for still playing the non-enhanced Quake?

>>8061502
Is working folder in the shortcut correct?

>>8061663
nice

>>8061695
>Escape from Horrorland
That was my favorite goosebumps book. I had a sweater with the cover art on it and everything.

>2 months ago
>still no Tremor updates

I NEED IT

>>8061359
>>8061364
>>8061372
>>8061381
In addition to all that, its the fastest when it comes to rendering. Unlike the other source ports that rely heavily on CPU, FTE uses the GPU instead.

>>8061502
>>8061783
Need more info on directory/file locations and the command line parameters being used, otherwise it's anyone's guess. QSS works the same as QS for the most part as far as launching goes.

Im shitter console boomer currently, but i was in the wad scene back in a while left in like 2011ish because irl stuff
so i got the Xbox ports of 1&2, can someone give a quick rundown on the wads available? good, bad, gtfo console shitter, which order, etc
besides Plutonia, TNT and Sigil dont know any of those, and a few BTSX videos of decino here and there

>BTSX 1
>BTSX 2
>Deathless
>Doom Zero
>Double Impact
>Deathless
>No end in sight
>No rest for the living
>REKKR
>Syringe

>>8061921
>>8059550

>>8061921
NRFTL is an official episode that was made for the 360 port of Doom 2.

>>8061932
Didn't read your post, jumped the gun

>>8061876
this only applies to like three maps in total, no? for most maps I'd expect the opposite, considering all the extra bling.

>>8061707
GOG does not appear to be selling the remaster

>>8061959
nevermind it will get updated at an undefined date
https://www.gog.com/forum/quake_series/quake_enhanced_update/post1

>>8061934
Dont remember, iirc the xbox 360 port was complete shitfest in some tech regards am i mixing shit? playing Plutonia currently honestly cant even say i remember half of the maps, and playing with an xbox control is giga cursed, UV is impossible, you move so clunky and weapons swapping, i'd rather not talk about it, still fun tho.
>NGMI

>>8061932
Figured BTSX were among the best / try first

>>8061921
They're mostly all good stuff. Haven't played all of those.

>BTSX 1
>BTSX 2
Back To Saturn X, an ambitious multi-megawad project with all new textures and palettes. Lotta people are waiting for Part 3, including myself. I like the colors and visual style a lot.

>Double Impact
E1 replacement for Doom 1, made by RottKing and Ralphis. They go balls to the walls and make large and hard techbase maps using all of Doom 1's monsters, very atmospheric and fun to explore, very good looking, harsh and fun combat. One of my favorites.

>No end in sight
Doom 1 megawad which aims to be tough. Apparently surprisingly sophisticated in spite of Doom 1's limited bestiary.

>No rest for the living
A 9 level Doom 2 episode which was originally made and added as a bonus on the XBox console port of Doom (which came with Doom 3). Quite well made.

>REKKR
Total conversion for Doom 1 made by a guy that actually comes around here often to show development progress and get input. He has some kind sequel in the works.

Make sure that you have Vertical Sync turned off in the options btw, as that can give you pretty annoying input lag.

>>8061963
Nice

Has anyone played Happy Time Circus or whatever it's called? Looks bonkers.

>>8060093
>new rule against off-site harassment
doomworldniggers tongue my anus

>>8062021
Literally does not affect us. What are they gonna do, ban Anonymous? Who's Anonymous?

>>8062000
It looks like a Marathon map.

>>8061921
I dont understand from your wording if you want rundowns on the wads listed or a rundown on other wads to try.

>>8062028
>Literally does not affect us.
You can literally see in the picture he posted that it does, anon.

>>8062021
>screencap
That sounds like something I said in jest except I don't actually remember saying that.

>>8062021
fuck i was replying to >>8060660 not the newspost

>This thread has clearly run its course (and then some), so I'm locking it
Gee I wonder why people on DW may think that moderators will abuse this rule.

>>8062000
Checked

>>8062032
Rundown of the listed wads

>>8060123
I found the 10 documents. What the hell am I supposed to do now?

In two words.
HeXen95. Intoxicated Rambling.
DosQuake. And Then.
WinQuake. Putrid Flesh.

is it me or the quakespasm spiked site is down?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIgy6IRhpDw

>>8062078
wait for glowies to show up at your door

>>8062094
Thanks.

>>8061865
I'd make a good bet they got approached by id/beth since it was a vanilla map setup and now they're adding the additional things necessary for remaster compatibility.

For me? I need Mjolnir.

>>8061984
>He has some kind sequel in the works.
It's a new episode with new monsters and textures and such. Think of it as a paid expansion pack.

>>8061975
The XBLA version is the best console port pleb.
>>8061984
>XBox console port of Doom (which came with Doom 3)
Not that one only had Ultimate Doom and Doom 2 only in the limited edition. They also included Master Levels in the original xbox port of ROE.

>>8062106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIdRJlzERo

>>8062085
https://triptohell.info/moodles/qss/ is up for me

What else can I add to make my second TNT playthrough more fun? So far, I've got:
>TNT MIDI Pack
>D4V

Bonus points if it works with either Crispy or GZ

>>8060092
Cryptic Passage showers you with ammo wtf.

Informational Noise.

>>8061523
Many mappers treat it as a navigational aid, rather than as a cheat sheet for secret areas.

Just how many of his kids Romero had abandoned in his life? Someone needs to make a count.

>>8062170
Load the wad TNT: Revilution along with tnt.wad. You'll get an infinitely better experience.

>>8062170
LiveReverb

>>8062163
still down for some reason for me but i got it from the quakestarterpack anyway

You have to play all of this to post here.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Commercial_games

>>8062281
Nah.

>>8062281
If you think I'm touching DZone and HZone, you're out of your mind.

>>8062287
Play HZone with HDoom

pov: you are a megasphere

>>8062296
>he doesn't runs around with 200/200 already from picking up all the bottles and helmets
ngmi

>>8062281
Only played d2 and been posting here for years,

>>8062351
Which version?

What are good Doom starter WADs for people overwhelmed by choice

>>8062362
Sigil

>>8062362
uac ultra

>>8062362
UAC Labs

>>8062362
UAC Military Nightmare

>>8062362
Valiant looks comfy.

>>8060187
>I can only compare this to trying to turn a plane with a rudder in a plane sim

>>8062362
Sunder

>>8062362
UAC Labs
A Gamarra tribute: Gamarra's destiny
Doomguy's Warzone
Doomguy's Warzone All Stars!
30,000 Levels
Wow
NUTS
Hell Revealed 1943

>>8062362
The Master Levels for Doom 2

>>8062362
Not meme answer:
Some small episode like Lunatic or Violence. They are relatively short and easy, and also top quality.

>>8062362
DTWID and D2TWID are good choices for something similar to the original doom.

There are some more recent sets that are kind of like them as well such as Earthless or Doom 2 In Spain Only.

>>8062358
the one with doomguy

>>8062362
Perdition's gate.

>>8060092

fancy new hud

>>8062362
OK, but it's only a minor exaggeration.

Plutonia is the reason why all most maps 32 are "Slaughter" or more combat oriented maps?
Why? Tradition?

>>8062428
REKKR? MORE LIKE HUDDR!

>>8062428
I always hate how you can't see all your ammo counts in these minimalist huds in source ports. Okay, I can understand Build games where you have twenty weapons all with their own different ammo types, but when it comes to Doom, how hard it is to fit four numbers on a screen?

>>8062078
commit suicide with 2 shots to the back of the head

>>8062449
I like that 1000 lines 2's map32 is a puzzle map.

>>8060371
>>8060406
Quake:eh (because they dare call it Enhanced Edition)

>>8062449
It's epic, dude!!

>>8062449
I'm an advocate for doing away with secret maps entirely and making MAP31 and MAP32 be normal levels and integrated into the normal campaign and hiding a convoluted secret exit in MAP15 just to fuck with people

so, about scourge of armagon's bullet decals...

>>8062570
30 map main campaign is long enough

>>8062475
You can still use the old statusbar with that readout. This is just an althud replacement.
But I do want to add an indicator for which armor level you have. A little copper/steel icon or some such. If that ends up making it overly asymmetrical, and leaves enough space in the complementary area on the other side for those ammo readouts I'll see what I can do.

>>8062570
Out of all megawads I've played, map15 accessed secret levels made the least sense to me in the scythe 2 "collection of minisodes" style of megawad.
Would love to see a 35 level UMAPINFO megawad for Doom 2 that has 31-35 be the final episode, instead of secret levels.

>>8062582
Actually, is it simple enough to have 3 hud levels before the screen size starts getting shrunk? Would be nice to just be able to have those areas togglable...

>>8062428
Looks neat. Great job.
>>8062519
>because they dare call it Enhanced Edition
Why not? It is.

>>8062582
An indicator for berserk would be handy, too.

>>8062438
Lmao i was gonna tell em to play doom zero they've got enough choices

>>8061128
https://youtu.be/_asNhzXq72w

>>8061523
>none of the secret sectors get marked as found in automap

>>8060124
If using Noesis convert to MD3 first then from MD3 to MDL. Seems to fix most of the issues, but haven't tested everything yet.

>>8061376
nah

>>8062142
isn't xbox port that one with the sewer level?

Why even map when you'll always be outclassed...

>>8062287
HZone has some actually decently made levels by WizardWorks themselves instead of just being 100% shovelware like DZone.
Someone should sort out WizardWorks' stuff out of HZone and make a lightweight version with just that.

>>8062920
Cause it's fun. Besides your map doesn't have to be at the top there and utilize exclusive source port tech to be enjoyable.

>>8062362
Sigil and PSX Doom for something new (different soundtrack and coloured lighting)

>>8062935
I was there but I got better

What are some words associsted with combat starting with S beside slaughter.
I want to start a project with alliterative name and I don't want to give impression that it's a slaughter wad.

>>8062935

I realized I don't really enjoy hectic maps with over 9000 enemies and constant skeleton traps and I refuse to make such maps, so I decided to only make id-style vanilla maps anymore.
Stuff you can relax with, on HMP with keyboard only.

So, I want to see if there is a consensus or at least some kind of direction about:
>What makes a map "comfy" for you?
In order to alleviate misunderstandings, try to formulate your answer within the confines of "gameplay" and "visual", though I am more interested in the gameplay side.

In order to give you an idea what I mean: This is a map I made some time ago where I started exploring that subject. It's not supposed to be a hard or crazy map, but a rather leisurely stroll and it's perfectly doable with keyboard only even on UV.

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom/Ports/s-u/ultisuck

>>8061921
Console shitter here.

BTSX2 is absolute kino.
My observations, no particular order.
SO
MANY
FUCKING
REVENANTS
HOLY SHIT
AND YOU CANT DODGE AS EASILY ON CONSOLE

Map 15 secret exit is the most cryptic shit i've seen

Fireking is impossible on console on something above HNTR-HMP, at least without abusing saves on the latter.

Wonder if Valiant or Sunlust will release as add-ons, prob no

Part died the most: dont remember map, a small circular room in water with a Mastermind and Archviles iirc.

Liked the plasma new color.

Bretty gud overall

>>8062959
skirmish
scrimmage
scuffle
struggle
scrap
sortie

>>8062973
Forgot:
Most bullshit part
was a small room that flooded with Hell Knights and i think barons After activating the trap in like 30 seconds, that was straight shitting on the player

>>8062970
Archies and revenants are the bane of ‘keyboard/gamepad’ players, as is potentially any trap outside their field of view.

>>8062582
>You can still use the old statusbar with that readout
I know, but what if I want a minimal althud AND want to have information about ammo on hand? It's not like those four numbers are the only source of clutter on the regular hud.

>>8063013
The fact PSX Doom doesn't have Archville never stops being funny to me

>>8063032
At least they have chaingunners - and in e1m1 of all things..!

>>8063032
It's the definitive version for a reason.

>>8063050
>definitive

>>8062093
Are those famous school shooters?

>>8063035
>>8063032
>no revenants or archviles in D64
>no chaingunners either
Hmmmm

>>8062362
UAC Hazards Course

I was going to play Quack 2 with Yamagi Quake but Avast says yquake2.exe is infected. It's a false positive, right? I want to make sure.

>>8063116
>Avast

>>8063127
At least my spy waifu didn't die like an idiot.

>>8060092
what's the best way to play blood?

>>8063170
this question gets asked so often I assume it's just people trolling now

>>8063182
well I was going to buy fresh supply on steam but i've heard it's not a good port

>>8063189
Just download NBlood or BloodGDX, anon

>>8062449
Plutonia isn't slaughter except for Map 32.

>>8063189
it's fine

>>8062449
Nah Plutonia isn't really slaughter, just set the base for people to put a meme amount of revenants and chaingunners in a single map

Was really looking forward to playing some Quake last night but I got bit by a fire ant or something and after the allergic reaction wore off I just felt like sleeping. Thought I'd let you know.

>>8063131
Not cool anon.

>>8063170
BloodGDX or NBlood, personally I recommend the former because it has better accuracy autist behind it.

>>8063197
That’s what the post you quoted is saying, isn’t it?

>>8062973
I would say all the add-ons are worth playing, have fun console bro.
>>8063206
Go 2 It is a slaughter map and one of the most famous ones.
>>8063210
Bug bits are not joke man, glad to hear you're feeling better.

>>8063225
BloodGDX then? thanks

>>8063257
Yeah, honestly the slav behind it is a massive autist that put a fuckton of work into it, it's easily the most accurate port.

>>8063260
Is there mouse aim? that's generally all I want out of old shooters

>>8063280
Of course

>>8063234
Sorry, just woke up.

>>8060440
>>8060458
pretty sure that issue is overdraw from all those transparent textures
changing it would probably require redesign of foliage, that translucent water doesnt help either

>>8063170
>>8063225
>>8063182
>>8063189
>>8063195
>>8063202
>>8063225
>>8063257
>>8063260
>>8063280
>>8063282

>>8063282
perfect thanks I'm downloading it now

>>8063290
Core thing about BloodGDX is that it has the most friendly UI and best/easiest mod compatibility.
Plus it's the only one that's truly a source port of the original game without being muddled by other shit.
Fresh Supply is not even a port, it's a glorified total conversion mod for Kaiser's Doom 64 EX on his custom KEX Engine and is horribly inaccurate to the actual Build engine.
NBlood is based on EDuke32 and as such has Douk 3D Build code in it that isn't exactly Blood centric and mod loading on that one is utter cancer.
Raze is another meme recreation rather than a port, this time forked from GZDoom.
Hope now you can see why accuracy autists like me prefer GDX.

>>8063280
Of course it has lol Blood was released in 1997

>>8063234
>>8063246
>>8063283

Yeah, basically that, that Cyberden and Go 2 it, influenced MegaWads having slots 31&32 being generally, 31 a "concept" map (more experimental/Gimmick) while 32 is more action packed.
Thats how i see it anyways.
Sure G2I looks nothing special now, (but given i was 4 during final doom release) so i dont know first hand but i must assume it was considered impressive for its day?

>>8063301
>Raze is another meme recreation rather than a port, this time forked from GZDoom.
Raze's Blood module is literally NBlood.

>>8063315
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Raze
>Raze is a source port of Build engine games implementing several systems as found in the GZDoom source port.
>Runs on the full GZDoom backend
>Runs on the full GZDoom backend
>Runs on the full GZDoom backend
I don't care if that shit is a bit more accurate than Fresh Supply because it steals shit from NBlood, it's still no different from CUX engine bullshit in Fresh Supply.

>>8061440
>Blastercard
That's pretty funny

>>8063315
Playing Blood in Raze is like playing Wolfenstein 3D in Doom.

>>8062935

>>8063320
https://raze.zdoom.org/about
>The game modules are based on the following sources:
>Blood: NBlood.

>Runs on the full GZDoom backend
It means it handles things such as video/audio output for whatever system you're running it on. Game logic itself is untouched.

>>8063329
>Game logic itself is untouched.
Mate, did you ever actually try it? Movement is NOTHING like Blood, it has Doom movement.

>>8063320
>steals shit from NBlood
Do you even understand what OPEN SOURCE means.

>>8061707
GoG is pretty based. If Doom 2016 ever comes to GoG, I will instantly buy it again.

>>8063337
>taking words literally
autism

>>8063335
No it's not. It's floaty squishy Blood movement. It can't have Doom movement because there's NOTHING out of Doom's physics movement/physics code in there.

>>8063337
>>8063329
>>8063349
Fuck off Graf, nobody is falling for your shilling, your "port" is inaccurate garbage just like Fresh Shitpile.

Can Raze play
>all Duke expansion including Duke! Zone 2 and Duke!Extreme?
>fifth episode from World Tour?
>eduke mods such as console conversions and Duke Forever mod?

>>8062254
Lol, maybe I'll just play that next.
>>8062265
Just looked that up. That's really cool.

>>8063352
no

>>8063352
eduke mods can only be played on eduke

What are some Quake wads with nice open terrains?

>>8063363
Well, then I'll just stay with eduke.

>>8063374
Ter Shibboleth 1 and 2. Altar Of Storms (at least partially).

>>8062362
Drown in Blood

So what do we think of Cultic?

>>8062970
polite bump for discussion

>>8063374
Are you talking about Quake maps or Quake texture wads?

>>8063414
Maps. I'm in the mood for some landscapes.

>>8062551
Uh oh

This wad looks like fun, but I can't find the Eternal Doom 1 & 2 wads, only 3. Does anyone have them?

>>8063449
Eternal Doom 3 already contains 1 & 2

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/124055-the-civvie-11-massacre-a-20-map-contest-megawad-done/ Could we play this in SNS? The pizza tower wad was fun

Skulltiverse maps 17-30:
https://mega.nz/file/8LgyUTYB#31DdEBQf5xjnPoEDBlTiR01wRCNT97oDjVXVc2XrWCY
https://mega.nz/file/4PgyDbgJ#aP4qU2UWNncioc_cXyDWwmCyPvvKlobFS9eR14SSbh4

>>8060540
Salvia:
https://mega.nz/file/wfhG0JoA#rLiRz7Z89Zyz3AnA3JzmGo7qO9mpXYdig9DCDvsMgcM

>>8060440
>>8060458
What hardware are you running it on?

I just made a new animated sky texture.

>>8063518
Sick. Also chief, could you add in the sky textures from 2048 as optional extra skies? If someone wants to use those for their level with the sky transfer function.

Why did quake not have an interact button?

>>8063552
Why did it need one?

>>8063552
The mental energy of looking up and down would have made things too complicated.

>>8063552
I know that it made it easier to ensure people interact with important switches. "Unfing" walls for secrets was replaced with axing them. I'm not aware of Carmack's personal reasons for it, just that he was against a use button.

>>8063525
You can bump into the lever made from 10 polygons and see it rotate in realtime, from any point! REAL 3D OBJECTS! Who needs interface and buttons when you have this?

>>8063518
Very dreamlike

>>8063572
It's superfluous design, like the pistol. The game doesn't lose anything from making you bump into a button instead of pressing it- you'd need to get up close in both scenarios.

>>8063552
Carmack thought it was redundant

>>8063585
>>8063552
Because this is annoying.
https://youtu.be/jj1ZAvIT1e8

>>8063552
I kind of like that it doesn't. It makes the game move faster.

>>8063552
Weird how Build games went in the opposite direction with interactivity and items you can carry and use whenever you want

>>8063585
I think the only real difference is the lack of tactility.

>>8063616
Different ways to make a shooter. Duke and Quake both do things very differently, but they were the very finest action games of 1996.

>>8063632
You mean quake and unreal. Duke isn't actually a good game.

>>8063645
>Duke isn't actually a good game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVO5bUFww0

>>8063289
>bloodports.jpg
>not bloodsports.jpg

>>8061376
Yes, most of it. A real shame.

But dont worry shit like selaco does not look any better.

>>8061376
No you fucking moron.