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>that one VN with the tranny tranning
It's disgusting but funny

As far as I can tell, it's the same as it ever was, with plenty of people who putatively have the language skills "expressing interest" in translating it, but no one with the more niche skill of game hacking wanting to touch it. To do it justice, you would have to go with Forever With You, which is available on the PS1, Saturn, and PC. Most people seem to go for the SNES version when they want to finally be the one to do it, which I assume is somehow simpler, but it's the worst major console version of it. As far as I can tell, the person in this picture was cancelled, or someone involved was cancelled, but as you can see for yourself, the Twitter account is now defunct.

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/o5akc7/tokimeki_memorial_english_translation_needed_i/

Plenty of people pop up every now and then like this person who are "willing to help" if someone will do all the technical work. I mean, so am I, it counts for basically nothing. But hey, if anyone who knows PS1 dis/assembly wants my "help," I've translated a larger, wordier game before, feel free to message me somewhere: https://dinklations.wordpress.com/contact/ I'd be more than happy to dump a cumbersome script on you and sit on my ass.

>>8045846
>not the superior playstation version

>>8045846
Was planning on making this thread soon, as well. DDS' twitter is gone, and I haven't heard anythibg from him, Tom, or FlashPV. Anyone else hear from any of them, recently?

>>8046309
Damn, was hoping for better news :/

There is a gbc version and an arcade version of all things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTaEbX9X4is..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7HzOAHaQ6o

>>8045846
It's dead, Jim.

>>8046378
I really hope that Tom is doing well. The Goemon faux pas made him really depressed for a while, and now a dude he worked with just a few months ago commits suicide. That can really mess you up.

>>8046309
Tom is not cancelled, in fact he finished his translation of the fourth Ganbare Goemon for SFC and now he works on Tokimeki Memorial.

>>8046352
this

>>8046352
Is the Saturn one any good?

Castlevania: Symphony of the Night wouldn't exist without this. Do not forget this.

>>8046309
man, there are TONS of people fluent in japanese ready to translate scripts, what's rare are good hackers, we don't need you.

>>8048917
Wow, it’s almost like that’s exactly what I said!

>>8046309
Have you considered just doing an OCR translation? It's way easier than trying to hack a game and gives the same results.

>>8048741
Wtf I hate Tokimeki now

>>8045846
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb-DtICmPTY

>>8048952
I’ve skimmed the surface of what various programs can do (not just for this game), but haven’t seen something yet that would potentially create a good user experience. Or is even capable of it, as most of those programs are just for personal use. There’s one that I toyed around with that is supposed to create a sort of downloadable pack for a game, but it seems kind of like it still has one foot in the beta stage.

>>8048967
I just wanna play it and understand what's going on bro :'(
inb4 learn Japanese.

Just bought the Saturn version so I can play it and shitpost about it in begging threads. Surprised by how cheap it is, though I guess since you can't play it without knowing the language Americans haven't ruined the market for it yet.

>>8049048
If you mean zTranslate, the creator's been working on a retroarch-integrated version that's way more stable from what I've seen of it (it's partially integrated now, but can't support downloadable package translations). The game that's being used to test the technology is a Dreamcast dating sim, so it 100% works even for text-heavy games like that. It should be going public VERY soon.

>>8049184
The majority of people who play and engage in the market for English translated games are non-American ESL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGj0pBklj6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_e5KqmDOAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS9O7VwayL8
Why did the worst game that stopped the main series dead in its tracks have to have the best soundtrack? It's not fair.

>>8049184
There is always at least one of you larpers in every thread huh?

>>8049397
These seething responses literally make my day. The fact that people think someone has to larp to know another language is amazing. And it's only an issue with Japanese because they fetishize it without having the balls to sit down and do something productive. More than playing video games, these sorts of accusations really make me feel like all that effort was worth it.

>>8049260
Japs got fed up with life sim and stat gambling games by then.
I'd still wager the reason why tokimemo1 works so fucking well as a video game is that the dates are 10 seconds long and the game accommodates cheating, save scumming and greatly rewards foreknowledge. Life Sim writers often tried fleshing out the characters more and that resulted in long ass visual novel cutscenes that don't mesh well with stat gambling gameplay.

>>8049449
And that's where tokimemo surprises you, dates are often little trivia quizzes where you have to answer to the girl what she is thinking. They're as one dimensional as can be and feel a bit manipulative since you're molding your personality to match the girl. And then the game catches you by surprise if you savestate and pleases Shiori too much she'll identify you as fake and won't enter tokimeki state locking you out of the ending right at the final hours of the game. It's unexpectedly clever for an otaku coomer bait like this.

>>8049449
And that's where tokimemo surprises you, dates are often little trivia quizzes where you have to answer to the girl what she is thinking. They're as one dimensional as can be and feel a bit manipulative since you're molding your personality to match the girl. And then the game catches you by surprise if you savestate to do everything perfectly and please Shiori too much she'll identify you as fake and won't enter tokimeki state locking you out of the ending right at the final hours of the game. It's unexpectedly clever for an otaku coomer bait like this.

>>8049468
>coomer bait
Such a good post instantly ruined by retarded buzzwordism.

>>8049415
Wait, are you the guy who came into that long-ass Tokimeki thread earlier this year and just shitposted it to death with a debate about learning Japanese?

>>8045846
Does anyone even want it to be translated?

>>8048725
Saturn is arguably the best version (extra bonus ending options and some minor censorship kinda sorta reverted), but the difference from PS is pretty small
PC Engine is the hardest to win Shiori in; they made her easier in the ports, so play PCE for a challenge.
Also I think every port has different mini-games (Twinbee shooters and whatnot) so it's worth checking them all out for those

That's too much weebery for me personally, but the obligatory Puzzle cash-in was pretty good.

Thread theme:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tDXJ513EiOvEwIBTIeSL3YCCPN4jDwK6/view?usp=sharing

>>8049862
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdiLE-C_J1k
What the fuck is kirameki mode?
Swimsuit mode?

>>8049792
Are any of them translated? I can't read Japanese.

>>8049792
If you're playing legit the Playstation takes very long to save and load and you'll see every other version saves and loads instantly to encourage you to save scum for better rolls.

>>8048967
Classic

>>8049948
OP made this thread because it's still not translated

>>8049948
I think one of the otome spin-offs is translated.

>>8049975
True Love is translated and you can play in your browser
https://tss.asenheim.org/true-love.html

>>8048917
No there's not, they all think they're fluent but they suck really really badly. I wish I was joking. Fan translations are awful.

>>8050038
Please, let's not have this discussion here. There's one autist who loves derailing these threads with translation arguments. The jannies already kicked him out of this thread once.

>>8050051
I'm not him but I am legitimately serious. If you check around the various learning communities there's a lot of people think they're fluent and they struggle to read beginner content that was dumbed down for language learners and they end up relying on Google translate and get a lot of shit wrong as a result. It's a problem with manga too.

One of my favorite Famicom RPG's was translated by this kind of "fluent" person - twice - and they both did such a bad job that you can't even finish the game without a guide because nothing makes sense. It's awful.

>>8050078
As long as the game is playable, who cares if the translation isn't 100% accurate. But like other anon said, let's drop it.

Did something happen to DDS? His Twitter is gone, but Tom and FlashPV are still there

>>8050078
Dead of the Brain and Dividead are horribly mistranslated but I think they're fine because I just consider them cheapily made pornos with nice music and atmosphere.

>>8050459
I'd take bad translation over no translation and the only people who care about accuracy are inexperienced elementary learners.

One person says one dumb thing and the rest come flooding in, like dominos. It's amazing.

>>8048967
I enjoyed this. Dude is very masturbatory but there's two entire playthroughs in that vid

>>8049928
taisen puzzle dama so based

>>8050078
Which game?

>>8050473
Welcome to 4chins

>>8050402
He's dead, Jim.

>>8050490
Hoshi wo miruhito

>>8050574
Ah, that's been on my to play list for a while.

>>8049530
Me. Did you make this pic? DDS, is this you? You're genuinely one of my heroes, man.

>>8045846
There's literally no point in playing any of the Tokimeki Memorial games when further refinements to the genre exist, as seen in Amagami and FotoKano. Too bad for you, neither of those is translated either, but the sheer quality of life that comes from
>requirements for achieving different routes and endings is not based on arcane knowledge of which stats you're supposed to raise and who you're supposed to ask out on what specific day to which location
obsoletes the entire TokiMemo-like dating sim. With the elimination of luck based elements and requirements of prior knowledge, you get to spend less time consulting guides and more time reading, enjoying the game. Anyone who disagrees with this post is a boomer, a retard, or both.

>>8050820
You are not welcome in this thread, sir.

>>8050820
Amagami is great but falls to the same lengthy cutscene problem.

>>8050884
Yeah, but at least you can get to those cutscenes in the first place without having to google the exact conditions to unlock them. Yes, even Amagami has its exceptions, but for the 6 main girls, even someone entirely unfamiliar with the game can deliberately and consciously choose whether to go for Suki/Nakayoshi/Soen endings and get them. Someone without prior knowledge going into TokiMemo is pretty much just making educated guesses and hoping they're doing things correctly, and not even for a worthwhile payoff.
97% of the memorable cutscenes in Amagami can and will be seen by the average person who plays it. That is a much higher rate than could be said of the average TokiMemo player. Therefore, it can be said that TokiMemo is poorly designed in comparison.

>>8045846
It should just be recreated (NOT remade) instead of translated at this point.

>>8050820
>no reason
Aesthetics? The art in that kind of sucks. Can't speak for the music but sure it's a step down too.

You walk into the classroom and this guy starts writing answers to personal questions about your girlfriend in his notebook, what do you do?

>>8050256
That's the problem, it's not playable. The translation is so bad you need a guide to finish the game.

>>8050459
Idk what those are

>>8050468
See above

>>8050490
Sweet Home.

>>8050970
I ask him for what he wrote. How the fuck did he find out Mira's three sizes before me?

>>8050970
karate chop

>>8050525
Well that fucking sucks, because apparently the last Goemon 3 patch he put out had some kind of issue where in one of the levels, playing it a certain way would soft lock the game

>>8050820
>more time reading
I want a game, not a novel

>>8051445
Didn't someone here make a patch for that error (v3.1 or something like that)?

>>8047039
>>8047075
in related news: wtf happened to DDS and his page?

>>8052905
This

>>8049792
My first waifu. Just do what I did bros:

1. Get a saturn
2. Action replay and tokimemo.
3. Make friends with japanese exchange student
4. Smoke weed with her and play and ask her to translate.
5. Get yukari ending and be happy

That was fun 20 years ago.

>>8054276
Nice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO3qjAP4C40

Which dating sims are actually:
1) translated
2) good
It seems like such a niche thing compared to VNs, and I don't know why since the RPG aspect is really fun.

>>8049103
>inb4 learn Japanese.
Nobody wants to hear it but let's face it, it's the best option by far...
There's too much drama and retardation in these kinds of communities to be worth dealing with anymore. It's gotten so much worse when you factor in these crybaby twitter-obsessed faggots being so prominent in the retro gaming scene now and are sometimes even outright supportive for censorship of any problematic content these games may occasionally have. They are in some cases directly involved with fan translation projects.
You'll also be waiting for literal years for any games of note to get patched, you're better off spending that time learning moon anyway

>>8049103
>>8054818
Pretty much this. Put the games away and put in a couple solid years of studying. This game STILL won't be translated by the time you get done with that. Most translators these days, fan or otherwise, are trannies who will fuck it up anyway with their shitty N3-level Japanese. The liberty of not having to pay attention to all the gay shit in the translation scene is incredible, though I still pop over to translator Twitter to seethe every now and then.

>>8054754
I only know of like 6 that are even translated. There's one on the PSX I'm told is good that only got translated because there was some big name behind it, but I can't remember the name of it.

>>8054838
I dont have a couple years to study. I'm married with 2 children and work full time. Any little free time available goes to hobbies, and i have a couple. This is a game i have always badly wanted to play. I just really hope some wonderful people can help make it a reality one day.

>>8055596
Learning any language is a gift that keeps on giving.

>>8055596
learning a language is a good way to keep your boomer brain from degenerating, give it a chance.

>>8055596
Kids are a different story and a ton of work, but I learned Japanese while working in law - so VERY long days - by putting my other hobbies aside and grinding for hours every day after work, no excuses. No matter what, it's gonna come down to how much you want it.

And like
>>8055601
>>8055938
these anons are saying, mastering a language will open tons of new doors for you.

What other things do people respond to like this? Fucking ridiculous.

“Man, I can’t wait for [band] to come around here.”
“dude just learn guitar”

“I hope commercial space travel becomes available in my lifetime.”
“bro just learn aerospace engineering”

>>8046309
man it'd be so cool to finally get this thing translated.

"Forever With You" is the best version, huh?

>>8054838
>>8056121
You again. Why do you always have to come in and ruin these threads?

>>8055596
>>8055601
>>8056121
Don't lie to the poor anon. Learning Japanese won't do shit for you in the real world unless you can actually use it as part of your career, and that doesn't apply to many jobs these days.

>>8054754
Princess Maker 2. You can marry her so it can technically become a dating sim

>>8057020
raising games are totally the most similar to dating sims.

>>8050820
Why are you posting on the retro board where we explicitly enjoy old things, faggot?

>>8050820
Even if the game's full of stuff you NEED to know if you want to do a good job in it, it's still the original and something I wanna go through like all the japanese d00ds that have. I wanna know all of the inside jokes about the game and familiarize myself with it's design.

>>8052905
Answer to this? Anyone?

>>8056978
>ruin these threads?
Sorry, the quality thread about translation begging into the void of the Internet? I guess you could circle jerk each other about some Twitter tranny not translating your favorite TurboGrafx game and have a more productive time. You certainly won't be talking about the game, because you can't play it!

>>8056896
If you're equating learning a language to aerospace engineering, I've got some bad news for you.

If it makes anyone feel better, this is a fairly low-skill game in terms of how much Japanese you really need. The dialogue options aren't that nuanced, it's shit like you go to the zoo and are supposed to figure out if you should or should not say things like "Man, those animals sure look tasty." Plus, if you have any modicum of empathy, the voice acting should give you good feedback. The only thing is that some the more involved skits might blow by you a bit.

>>8056987
>i can't do thing because it doesn't apply vocationally

lol fuck off

>>8058827
Here's a good example, Shiori asked me to the zoo and said the koalas were cute. These options are (not translating literally here):

Cute? Are you kidding?
Their eyes are freaky, though.
Totally. Super cute!

>>8058849
so cool...

>>8046309
how did you master japanese

>>8046309


>>8048917

I know I can't ever speak japanese but how can I learn to fantranslate a game on the technical side? Think I have more of a chance at that given my background

>>8052410
Would you happen to have the link for it?

>>8060101
Want the patch or the patched rom? I think I may only have the latter.

>>8059146
I don't know that I'd be so brazen as to call myself a "master," but if you want to take the Dink route to learning Japanese, it basically just involves throwing yourself at things you want to consume and just icepick-ing away at it with dictionaries and whatnot until you understand it. It can be tedious, and probably isn't the most efficient way to go about it, but if you're sick of being told to do Anki reps, I would say just play the things you want to play and try to make it work. Just be aware that it takes a good deal of effort and patience before you're going to feel comfortable with it, especially if you're not already bi/multilingual (which makes picking up extra languages easier). Or preternaturally gifted in language arts, though then you probably wouldn't be asking.

>>8059148
In my case, I translated an RPG Maker 2000 game, which is super low-skill. If you're working with amateur dev tools, you're limited only by your ability to understand what's already a user-friendly program. There also exist many tools for extracting and reinserting text, especially for older game engines.

With actual consoles and computer games made by real companies, you need to learn the basics like hexadecimal as well as the quirks specific to the system. A lot of this stuff can be looked up on places like romhacking.net, but other aspects you kind of have to search around or ask various communities, especially if you're trying to work with a system that's had very little or no work done with it. I think people typically get their feet wet with consoles that are pretty thoroughly researched already, like SNES, but I guess it depends on how much general technical knowledge you have already. Don't take my word for it though, I've never dabbled in this kind of stuff personally.

>it ain't gonna suck itself

>>8060706
Oh, also, if you're using a game to help with learning, I would recommend using the "three strikes" rule of note-taking. If you stop to look up every word in every sentence, you're probably going to have a bad time. But if you notice a word or phrase popping up frequently (i.e. at least three times or so), write it down in a notebook and/or put it into a virtual file along with any relevant readings above or to the side. This will not only help you commit it to memory but will make getting through that specific game easier, since you can refer to your notes if you need reminders for words that it uses often. For example, you'll see 良かった often in Tokimeki Memorial, as seen here >>8060709 Just give yourself a good amount of space to add any extra layers of meaning or personal thoughts, since phrases like this are pretty flexible.

All this is to say that it's OK to shoot above your comprehension level, you don't have to understand everything all at once to be able to gain something (although in a game like this you may perform poorly). Focus on a few things that catch your eye and learn the nuances, rather than bombard yourself with a hundred terms a day that you merely learn clinical interpretations of.

>>8060101
Here it is: https://www.mediafire.com/file/gy1jrph16nyjwhx/Go+for+it!+Goemon+3+-+The+Mecha+Leg+Hold+of+Jurokube+Shishi+(Japan)+[T-En+by+DDSTranslation+v3.1]+[n].zip/file

And, if you'd prefer, here is a version of it that simply replaces "Go for it!" on the title screen with "Ganbare!" (courtesy on an anon from the romhacking thread): https://files.catbox.moe/tzpwe6.zip

Enjoy, bro!

https://youtu.be/nVGBKn0Wtf8?t=1416

>>8058830
I didn't say you couldn't do it, just that it very rarely is actually useful.

>>8065190
My waifu's theme

>>8054083
>>8058617
Cuck Kalata from HG101 directed his troon army at him because he correctly used the term tranny in a game instead of some convoluted bullshit.

>>8058827
>Plus, if you have any modicum of empathy
Half the autists on this board immediately disqualified

>>8065235
I know, but DDS dropped off fhe face of the planet around mid April of this year or so, and even his Twitter and Translated.Games website is nowhere to be found. I hope he's doing alrighr, especially with the likelihood that the hatchet pussy brigade is still pestering him constantly.

>>8050038
This 100%. I've been a professional translator and interpreter in Japanese for over a decade and every project that I joined on for fun I wound up leaving because nobody knows what they are doing, they highly overvalue themselves and because their egos are equally overvalued they are too fragile to take any kind of criticism which turns into arguments.

>>8065261
I hope so, too. I don't have any social media account so I couldn't thank him for all those translations.
I miss the little guy like you wouldn't believe.

>>8065292
That doesn't mean fan translations are bad, it just means that amateurs working for free can't stick a project out, much less if they have to rely on one another for physical progress, especially people they don't really know. You can't judge other, finished products by this metric.

>>8065235
Is the tranny line correctly translated, because if it is then I see nothing wrong.

>>8065705
Yes, although Twitter argues that it's not a correct translation because "tranny" is arguably more politically incorrect than the Japanese term (nevermind that the context a joke about a dude finding out his girlfriend has a dick, so it obviously wasn't meant to be sensitive to anyone in the first place).

>>8065770
Even Kurt admitted "newhalf" was already offensive before he sicked his gay sex cult on DDS and Tom, don't forget.

Take it to a Goemon thread. This thread is about wanting to bang high school girls, not talking about tranny drama for the 100th time.

>>8065892
Sadly, this thread is mandatorily also about the most prominent fan translator project of this game, DDSTranslation. Probably wouldn't be if the project was finished by now, though.

>>8065892
Can we talk about how spending one hour a day learning Japanese will enrich your life now?

>>8065705
"Tranny" is more spiteful than "newhalf". "Transexual" is probably the best English word, since like "newhalf" they're both old terms that trannies back then would've identified as.
The drama really didn't need escalate so far tho

>>8065705
It really depends on the tone and circumstances of the speaker. Would the character say something kind of coarse and outdated? Then "tranny" works. People need to understand that sometimes characters are supposed to be unlikeable based on the things they say. But on the other hand, outsider communities who apparently take no offense to anything need to understand that liberal use of swears and non-PC terms isn't necessarily correct translation/discerning localization, either.

>>8065908

I'm fairly certain most people's estimates of the raw numbers you need for each girl is either flexible or terribly misunderstood. Nozomi supposedly requires at least 100 in the Looks stat and at least 120 in Athleticism, but I got her with most stats around 70-95 and only a monster 150 Miscellaneous stat. And third-tier university.

>>8065908

>>8065908
The monoglottist fears the Rosetta Stone

>>8065770
Is the original translation patch stick kicking around? I want the truer tranny version then

>>8065705
Kurt Kalata admitted it was the correct translation of newhalf, and he started this gay ass campaign against it.

>>8065941
Newhalf is slang while transexual is not slang, so that doesn't make sense.

>>8065705
HG101's Kurt Kalata admitted it was the correct translation of newhalf, and he started this gay ass campaign against it.

>>8065941
Newhalf is slang while transexual is not slang, so that doesn't make sense. Also, they also ironically or unironically went by "tranny" by choice until recent years, when they, themselves, politicized the term.

>>8066996
Yep, here >>8062553

>>8054754
Eva Rei simulator on DS, translation is crabstick tier but I played through, it's fun.

>>8065941
I would've just went with crossdresser to be honest.

>>8068286
Newhalf specifically refers to someone who's had a sex change operation, crossdresser is straight up incorrect.

>>8068310
>Newhalf specifically refers to someone who's had a sex change operation
Isn't it used for full packaged futas and wasn't the joke that the husband found out she has a dick

>>8065941
Tranny itself is not "spiteful", its just that it became spiteful because trannies are inherently unpleasant and unlikable. Kinda like how newhalf can infact be constructed as an insult.

>>8068313
It refers to a man who's had sexual reassignment surgery and become a woman, but still has a dick. It's typically treated as the Japanese equivalent of "shemale".

>wasn't the joke that the husband found out she has a dick
The joke is that you talk to this random npc girl and she tells you she has a dick, and that she's wondering if she should tell her boyfriend.
The kind of people that got offended by the word used in the translation would've been offended by the joke itself too.

>>8062553
Thanks!

>>8045846
>Any news of the progress?
Still in progress
>Has it been completed yet?
No

>>8069249
So the duo (trio if FlashPV is included) is still alive and well and working on this? That's fine if they want peace and quiet from all the drama by staying silent like this for as long as necessary, but I just want to be sure they and this project are alright.

>>8069206
Yw. Let me know here if you also got Sasuke's super move before actually learning it in-game, because that was weird.

>>8065206
based sakichad

>>8065892
Shiori's a canonical part of the Goemon universe.

>>8069595

> Shiori is the kind of chick who in her standards of the PERFECT MAN marries some rich Japanese politician and lives in a dried up marriage in her later years while her husband fucks yakuza cum dumpsters (Also she can't cook for shit and has self image and body issues)

> Saki is the kind of chick who is the ultimate wife, she can cook, clean, likes what you like, cheers you on and does not get angry over every little thing. She does not need a lot in life to be happy, just to make sure the people around her are happy. She is a family woman and will be a great mother and homemaker later.

How any Japanese fan voted Shiori #1 to Saki's #2 is crime or just rigged by Konomi since she was the poster girl for everything.

>>8070410
The more you date/pursue Shiori in the game, the more you learn she is not perfect but very flawed and even a little crazy. And not in the good human flawed kinda way.

She is the poster child of what happens when you try to change yourself completely to be perfect for someone else that really would not give you the time of day otherwise.

>>8070410
..b-based...

>>8065235
I thought he came back after the whole Goemon debacle? Now it seems like he's just ghosted.

>>8072095
He said he lost his passion for translating after he translated a game to share it with others out of the good of his heart and got rewarded by getting harassed by crazy people making up blatant lies about him.

>>8072215
Transpeople are already mentally ill, give them a reason to complain and why would you even listen

>>8072215
This isn't even exclusive to the one game. Recent drama in the romhack scene has proven that it doesn't even matter what got wrote, if someone slightly interprets the translation as being offensive even if it's not, the hackers/translators get blasted no matter what. I don't agree with the exact translation either but the dekinai crew showing up and trying so hard to latch to the word shumi = hobby no exceptions is just as cringe.

>>8072627
Based Tomatochad not giving a fuck about faggots' perceptions.

>>8072627
holy autism

>>8072627
What I don't understand is why all these people were commenting on a GOEMON translation of all things to begin with. None of them were Goemon fans, since that series is pretty well known for that kind of humor and it's pretty obvious they didn't know that.

>>8072723
You know why: Gleichschaltung, or axewound orthodoxy

>>8072627
子 on it's own is not gender neutral, what the fuck is that tard on about? Maybe that's the dictionary definition, but when used the way it is here it means girl.

>>8072779
Just think that these are the same sorts of people who somehow go on and get jobs in the industry as localizers on a mission to change that which they never understood to begin with.

>>8072779
Especially given the heavy context that already accompanies the text, this is pathetic. And then as a bonus translating なのよ as, "I guess," when there is ZERO reason to add that little flair and it actively changes the tone of the sentence.

I'm so sick of people who pretend to know Japanese trying to translate things with such little humility. Is there any other language this sort of shit happens with to the extent is does with Japanese? I'd guess probably not.

>>8072237
>why would you even listen
This. Who cares what an army of mentally ill retards think. Ignore them and continue your work.

>>8072990
>STOP HAVING FUN

>>8054754
Yu-No.

>>8072627
> You would not take running advise from someone with quadperson no leg function
> You would not take painting advice from a blind person with no visual function
> You would not take ANY advice from a transperson with no normal brain function

Any argument, any conversation, should partly be shut down if the person is trans. You already know you are dealing with a person who has a ill agenda at how they look at anything and ain't going to go by facts, historical rules or anything that ain't self-serving

Japan things you guys are deviants, they are based, stop trying to change that and go watch the end of Ace Ventura Pet Detective and remember where you are REALLY in the cultural world

>>8072627
>I don't agree with the exact translation
I think it's pretty solid actually, though I fail to see why "gal" was used over "girl" in both those text boxes.

>>8072990
>I'm so sick of people who pretend to know Japanese trying to translate things with such little humility. Is there any other language this sort of shit happens with to the extent is does with Japanese? I'd guess probably not.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia
this guy wrote 49% of Scots Wikipedia and doesn't know a thing about the language:
>“This is going to sound incredibly hyperbolic and hysterical,” wrote Ultach, “but I think this person has possibly done more damage to the Scots language than anyone else in history. They engaged in cultural vandalism on a hitherto unprecedented scale.”

>>8073773
>The revelation has led to some calling for the entire Scots Wikipedia to be deleted, arguing that its continued existence causes more harm than good.

>>8072627
...isn't that dialogue bit basically just "Hey, you know that girl over there? It's actually not a girl, it's a guy. Yeah, I know he's dressed like a girl, he just likes it that way."

How could that possibly be taken as offensive in ANY way?

>>8073789
Because for the transperson it is removing the mask

For them, they are a woman, no if, ands, or buts. Anything else including the solid reminder of reality is offensive to them.

>>8073789
>How could that possibly be taken as offensive in ANY way?
You're assuming that the reader is someone who still possesses reason.

>>8073795
But this character isn't trans. It's just a guy that likes dressing as a girl.

>>8073804
What do you think a majority of transpeople are?

>>8073807
Touché

>>8073807
wew lad

>>8073807
Hey now, let's not be logical about this.

>>8073807
rekt

>>8073807
Ooof. I know your right but it hits a little too real

>>8045846

What's the point? You'll never get this game if you weren't a Japanese teenage boy in the 90s.

>>8073807

>>8073807
cheeky cunt

>>8073756
The translator is clearly an Earthbound redditor (another example from his script: "An L, as they say, is an L."), and even he is far more honest than these ResetEra faggots trying to end him for not adhering to their orthodoxy.

>>8074518
the translation is all open source so i checked it right there at the project github and uh, even though DUDE WEED is in full effect, it's sadly a valid translation. i don't like it but it's not wrong.
https://github.com/unknownbrackets/tomatotrans
it's rare people put the whole thing on display like this so it's interesting to see what if any thought process was given to it.

>>8075273
>retards who dont speak japanese bitch about "accuracy" and "faithfulness"
>the translation turns out to be perfectly reasonable when compared against the source text
every fucking time

>>8075293
Better than the "just learn Japanese, it's not that hard" fags that always show up.

>>8065892
So what are the chances the Konami baseball game where you can relieve yourself to a sex doll knockoff of Shiori gets fantranslated?

>>8075293
I'm not bitching that it's innaccurate. I just said localizing using a reddit "trendy" expressiom like "Take the L" surely could have been replaced with a less cringe, tryhard expression such as something like "I admit defeat." That said, I thank him for his work, and it's a great job, and I've enjoyed it a lot.

>>8069249
Glad to know they're not dead and still working on this. I also just realized this game is using the system's hi-res mode, neat

>>8075707
>phrase in use since well before game's release
>complains about it being trendy
and here I thought we were on the retro games board for a second.

>>8075751
>using Internet speech outside of the Internet sounds perfectly normal and not forced

>>8075580
>sex doll knockoff of Shiori
Did Konami hire the same guys behind Dogimagi after suing them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nz8xN3fOZE

>>8075707
>>8075787
“Take the L” has been widely used sports-based lingo for a long time, which makes it extra-normal.

>>8069249
thanks

>>8075890
I've been hearing a lot of faggots use it as a replacement for an argument and as a goalpost move, lately, but perhaps I really am the one out of touch, here.