/vr/ - Retro Games

>What is the best looking game, the one that came out early, or the one that came out late when people knew how to do good looking games better?

>>801628
what?

Kirby's Adventure

>>801628
>knew how to do good looking games better
well thought out and articulate quote

>>801641
No habla ingles

>>801628

>>801623
Megaman DOS

Esper Dream 2

>>801638
best answer

>>801623
Darkwing Duck.

Mr. Gimmick

Mr. Gimmick

my nigga nemo he's a dream master and shit

bretty gud graphics

>>801628

:|

>>801623

Nah. Terrible pallette. Too bright. I'd say 2 & 3 look better.

Mr. Gimmick, easily.

Megaman 6 has a horrendous pallet.

Kirby's Adventure gets my vote.

Having played all the games already listed, my vote goes to Shatterhand and Captain Skyhawk.

>>801638
or
>>801954
not sure if the second one should count, though, considering it's a famicom game.

Kirby probably, it was one of the last ones on NES so they had the graphics pretty much perfected on what they could squeeze out of one of those carts. What I hate about game systems is that you never see truly great games on them that take advantage/make the most out of hardware becaues by the time developers figure it out that generation is old news.

Vice Project Doom

>>801623
Super Mario Bros.

>the most bland and rehashed megaman
>the best looking game on the system

back to >>>/out/ you casual plebe MM3 ALL THE WAY

Moon Crystal. Far from the most technically impressive graphics on the system, but the art style and smooth animation look fantastic in motion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL-HxOHGSDc

Battletoads looks pretty good, especially stages like the Turbo Tunnel with layered backgrounds. I wasn't even sure that was possible until Battletoads.

Batman and Shatterhand.

CV3

Little Samson by far :p

I always thought The Immortal looked pretty bad ass

gimmick fo shiggity

Mr. Gimmick
A screenshot just can't do it justice

>>802970
Eww indeed, this particular screenshot doesn't do it justice at all.

>>802970
for anyone interested, watch this shit
http://youtu.be/zYcf2yUgblc

>>802219
this, but Famicon counts?

>>802970
>>803297

Screenshots or gameplay, I never saw what made this game 'good-looking'.

I would say that >>802945 looks better.

>>803307
>>803306
well damn, nevermind. That game is insane.

Kirby's adventure fo sho

Hard to define 'best.' I've always liked how Kirby's Adventure looks.

Batman: Return of the Joker looked surprisingly 16-bit, though, so I go with it.

Felix the fucking Cat! His magic bag fucked up all them creatures in the sky, air or on land!

>>802970
I'd vote Mr. Gimmick for most advanced mechanics/physics in an NES game, graphics are a notch under Kirby IMO

>>803335
This. Mechanics and music are great in Gimmick! , but the graphics aren't impressive at all.

Also, the MC is ugly.

Ninja Gaiden at least 2 and 3.
Really close to this is Super contra and Zen.

>>802916
this

>>803628
fucking Zen. That game is hard as fuck

>>802219

I was going to say that, then I seen you have.

But yes, the animation surprised me when I seen it, I didn't think the NES was capable of that.

Another game that looks impressive in motion. Fire N Ice aka Solomon's Key 2.

>>801638
Hands down this. Kirby's Adventure looks better than a lot of SNES games.
>MFW it's doing it with the weaker MMC3 chip instead of MMC5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJXM4EPbPe0

I am sure there is another one, but every time I pop in SMB3 I always think I am playing an SNES game, not an NES one.

>>803962
Oh dog, thanks for posting these, I've been trying to remember that game's name for like 10 years or so

>>802970
>bottom bar garbled in to unusability
>one of the tamest portions of the game

Especially not that fucking screenshot. Mr. Gimmick is pretty advanced for the NES though.

never played it but Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu looks pretty good
http://www youtube com/watch?v=TUYYGZIocuM

Do any games use the Famicom's extra instruments well? Because I've always heard that the Japanese LoZ2 had greater music than the NES version, but the extra instruments just sound annoying and tinny to me.

>>803968
I love SMB3 as well, but come on.

>>803996
on top of my head there is gimmick, castlevania 3

easily Kirby's Adventure

shocked no one listed little samson. that game is beautiful. the bosses look awesome too

It's saddening that the best games for the NES and SNES were third party titles, yet after those, they have to rely on their own games. Nintendo fell a long damn way, didn't they?

It's hard to pin point an exact "best looking" game, since most of the NES' life was full of primitive games, and it wasn't until the SNES era when games became modern, and artists became aware of what artstyles could do to a game.

However, I was always quite impressed with James Bond Jr., especially since this is a BritBong game.

>>806369

>>806369
>>806372
Those are SNES games you ninny. Also

>best anything for the SNES
>it's always an RPG

Never fails to make me chuckle.

You are all wrong!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IdfOCK4w5W4#t=0m48s

www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=C8rBUGqMRfI #t=2m16s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=f-qdoBEpMb4

Dragon Warrior 4.

>>806383
I forgot to mention that the game runs better then in these videos. Framerate is a bit choppy in them.

>>806383
>Crisis Force
>always slows down

Might as well include Contra Force.

>>806390
I own this game, and I played it on an NES. It does slow down that much.

>>806359
>since most of the NES' life was full of primitive games, and it wasn't until the SNES era when games became modern, and artists became aware of what artstyles could do to a game.

Horseshit. This thread is proof enough of what artists could do with those limitations.

>>806391
I own it too, the pirated famicom cart. It does have slowdowns, and flickering but video also has stuttering that is absent on my famiclone.

>>806392
Well of course they have to work around limitations, otherwise the game won't work. It's just that the potential of the NES is largely untapped, and would be possible to dig out all of it's power with homebrew games. However, the NES has the worst homebrew scene available.

>>806393
Flickering is pretty much a given. The game was programmed to flicker lots, and relegated the flickering to projectiles shot by the player. The NES also has a scanline limit, too, which is impossible to bypass.

>>802937
Catslavenia 3's nackgrunds look good enough that the foregorund blocks look really out of place. It's like ajuxtoposed style that makes it 8/10 when it could b 9/10.

Wanna jniw what's a fuckin' rad looking game? Street Fighter 2011, or Batman.

>>802945
> The Immortal

Best fights in any NES game ever, and not just for the music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY3QEyyc23k#t=1m48s

Red bar is exhaustion, the more you have the slower you attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_t_Ve4Ljs8I

Also worth mentioning Rekka.

>>806469
Nice repo. Is the manual in English?

>>806469
>mfw I own the exact same repro

>>806526
Yes it is! However, the hidden sound test menu is untranslated. This repro is really well done, too.

Also, another game that's horribly overlooked. (Samurai) Zombie Nation is arguably one of the best looking games on the system, and it has some nice music. In fact, it's obvious that whoever worked on this game knew what they were working with, they just had very little direction. Looks a lot better in motion.

sword master

>>802930
Came in to the thread to say this. This is correct.

>>806664

yep, thirded

>>806309
>What is CTRL+F ?

>>803306
hmm, reminds me of trip world

>>801628
No shit

Since this is a NES thread I'll ask /vr/'s opinion.

When I power my NES while playing LoZ or any other save capable game, do I really need to hold reset when I switch the power off?

>>808201
No. Battery back-ups were new, and Nintendo wasn't sure if or what could cause save files to corrupt at the time. The battery save works just like any Super Nintendo battery save game like Mario World Donkey Kong Country or Super Metroid.

Mr. Gimmick.

Thanks /vr/

I'd never heard of Mr. Gimmick but I just watched that entire annotated playthrough. Very cool!

>>808687
>Not just playing the game
full on faggot

>>802014
Gimmick came out in some obscure european country though.

Batman Return of the Joker and Magician have really impressive dithering and shading, the latter is a bit on the unfairly difficult side though.
Magician:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ui7gaSL4hk8

Someone already mentioned Moon Crystal, that had the best animation.

>>803996
You're thinking of the Famicom Disk System, they had to rework some of the effects and music for stuff like Metroid.

>>806401
I know what you mean, they would only draw the shooting sprites every other frame to save processing power.
I think they did the same thing with hit detecion too, every other frame the game doesn't check for detection, which is why you can sometimes fly through shots when playing Gradius with all speed powerups.

>>802970

Personally the only thing Mr. Gimmick has going on for itself, aside from copying Kirby, is the FM synth bass.

>>808791
it came out before kirby

>>801623
Megaman 5 looks pretty good too.

>>808864
It isn't as shiny as 6 though. I don't think 5 had a parallaxing background anywhere either.

>>808875
Train level
Looked really good

>>808880
That was a moving background, which wasn't too common either at the time. But the sun in Tomahawk Man's level is more what I meant by parallax.

>>808883
Scratch that, I guess the sky and other parts of the background move at different speeds, I guess it was parallaxing.

>>803324
>Batman: Return of the Joker looked surprisingly 16-bit

It had a 16-bit release as well. It looks, sounds and plays inferior, like Sunsoft was making a point.

>>808920
Actually, that's because the Genesis port was outsourced to some no-name western company and sucked because of it.

Sunsoft's own Batman game on the Genesis is absolutely wonderful.

>>806894
It should, Trip World is a semi-sequel.

>>803324
That was always my pick too. It's not a great game, but it has amazing graphics and soundtrack/sound effects.

>>803306
>that sound
Holy shit, that's amazing. I thought it was some sort of Youtube intro music. The graphics are great too.

>>802842
Yeah I was going to mention Battletoads too, though it's probably not the best most technically impressive game out there.

Kirby's adventure is a feat of engineering and art. It's always amazed me how they managed to give the impression of such a colourful environment with such a limited palette to work with.

>>808791
>>808837

Also, It's not FM, it's samples.